"That's your candidate, Democrats. There's no getting around it. And it seems that America will spend the next 6 years in the arms of the gerontocracy. Snuggle up!"
I'd already factored in my belief that Trump will get the GOP nomination and go on to lose the election. I've decided I'm not getting cranked up about it. I have blogged the presidential campaigns for almost 2 decades, with day-by-day observations and insights throughout 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. What a hell of a thing to become so immersed in. This time will be different. And not because I'm tired of all the immersion. It's different because I can see it's different. We're in a ridiculous fix. But I'm not going to make it worse by struggling. The ancient grandfather will enfold us.
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From King Lear. Lear is speaking to his daughter Cordelia.
No, no, no, no! Come, let's away to prison:
We two alone will sing like birds i' the cage:
When thou dost ask me blessing, I'll kneel down,
And ask of thee forgiveness: so we'll live,
And pray, and sing, and tell old tales, and laugh
At gilded butterflies, and hear poor rogues
Talk of court news; and we'll talk with them too,
Who loses and who wins; who's in, who's out;
And take upon's the mystery of things,
As if we were God's spies: and we'll wear out,
In a wall'd prison, packs and sects of great ones,
That ebb and flow by the moon.
The two old timers are there because loyalists can’t buck the trend publicly. I think a lot of people from both those camps would pull the lever for desantis when protected by the anonymity of the voting booth— even some demos are tiring of the identity obsessed, crime loving progs.
I find it unlikely that the current resident will be around to run in 2 more years, the cocktail of amphetamines they pump into him to wake him up can’t go on forever
"We're in a ridiculous fix."
Yes, with the Dem lock on voting procedures in key states, the fix is in.
Dems are right to support Biden: he will do whatever they want. Deficit spending, green subsidies, open border, war and more war, stiffing Israel, waffling on China, bribes for Dem voters (student loans etc.), "equity" in the federal government, prog judges.
Nice people on the sidelines will just complain about the gerontocracy and the ridiculousness of the system, and they will be right, but their pox-on-all-their-houses reasonableness gives Dems a clear path.
Death can intervene for anyone. That's why I don't mention it. That and the fact that there are evil and deranged people who should not be prodded.
It seems most Democrats like the prog future the Biden regime plans. Cold and dark.
Of course old Crook weekend at Bernie's dementia patient will be the nominee.
the Media-FBI-mob-cheat machine is built-in.
Come on. man.
It will be a Trump-Biden re-match and Biden will win.
Why bother?
If people are stupid enough to keep voting for Biden, then they deserve what they get.
BTW - No way the corrupt powers that be will allow anyone BUT Trump to be the GOP nominee.
Agree 100% Ann.
No use getting all freaked out over the inevitable.
Late Stage Republic.
It was nice while it lasted.
Yes, I’m a Trump supporter, and I agree that he’s likely to lose in 2024.
And it seems that America will spend the next 6 years in the arms of the gerontocracy.
And I suggested that you not bet the mortgage on that. Even if the scenario you posit came true, the odds that Joseph Biden can make it to age 86 are not high, but will Donald Trump be renominated? In your shoes I wouldn’t bet on that, either. The MSM may try to temporarily rehabilitate Trump (c.f. Glenn Kessler) but Trump himself rarely misses a chance to shoot himself in the foot. Only Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris seem to have a worse tin ear for politics.
Finally, my low opinion of Democrat voters is thst they will do as they are told to do. Only 71% want Biden back as their nominee in 2024? The MSM opinion shapers and the political string-pullers won’t have much difficulty getting that down below 41% by the spring of 2024.
I think there are people in our everyday life that we respect enough to hope they will try public service. But, we say "It's a big state and a lot of people. Probably there is someone with better experience and education".
Then we get Dr. Oz vs John Fetterman or Hershel Walker vs. Rev Warnock. I really felt as neither party tried too hard in 2022 and, as a result, am not getting too caught up in the hoopla of the next election.
If we keep election these old people, today's kids will see what a presidential funeral looks like. I was 8 and still remember the ceremony and traditions.
A lot can happen.
I just hope you don't have one of your dreams about Biden, both for your sake and because that would seal it.
I'd already factored in my belief that Trump will get the GOP nomination and go on to lose the election. I've decided I'm not getting cranked up about it.
Just wear a short skirt and submit.
Don't fight back.
He will just hurt you more.
Events, our dear hostess, events.
Caroline: "The two old timers are there because loyalists can’t buck the trend publicly."
Trump has "loyalists" in the republican base because Trump has been the ONLY republican at the Presidential/leadership level to be loyal to the majority of the republican base voters over the last 30 years.
To defeat Trump a candidate will have to convince that group that he/she will fight every bit as aggressively for all the policies (social/economic/America First) that Trump pushed....and be believed.
Democraticals/LLR's (but I repeat myself) will vote (or have someone "help them vote") for whomever the dem nominee happens to be.
A very different political dynamic.
Political parties are notorious for playing an old game plan until it fails. It's not dead until a plan fails for two elections in a row. Witness the end of the pro-life/anti-abortion politics with the end of Roe v. Wade. Witness the rapid abandonment of Modern Monetary Theory "Trillion dollar coin and transitory inflation" with the rise of sticky inflation.
Biden was an explicit "safe old White guy" defensive reaction against Trump. If he loses in 2024 there will be a reactionary snapback all around. If he wins in 2024 the snapback will be 2x stronger. His death would likely be welcomed by many Democrats.
If it’s Biden v Trump, the competition will be very different because each will have a track record as President.
In February 1973 Nixon was less than 18 months from resigning. Agnew less than 8 months. We'll see.
I'd already factored in my belief that Trump will get the GOP nomination and go on to lose the election.
Obviously, depends on a number of factors. Particularly on how bad things get under Biden by then.
The Parties are too large and complicated, the momentum too great, to adjust. Clearly a failing of "Our Democracy". I support your position. I don't want you to burn out.
Althouse, I'm been here a lot of those 20 years. Have you ever voted GOP for POTUS?
On the topic, how are they going to dump Kamala?
Who is doing the calculus?
1. Dump her and lose blacks?
2. keep her and lose some % who either realize Biden is senile, or won't live 6 years...
Can’t you perceive that the demented and drugged up old man installed into the President’s office to block Trump lets Obama pull the strings? It’s no secret. So we really have a 62 year old Running things. He will be 64-68 in the next Term. That is a prime age to keep up the act.
Achilles said...
Just wear a short skirt and submit.
OT but political:
A good political speech is like a woman's skirt.
Log enough to cover the topic.
Short enough to keep your interest.
- W Churchill. Who gave good speech
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
Agree 100% Ann.
No use getting all freaked out over the inevitable.
Late Stage Republic.
It was nice while it lasted.
You and Ann are just alike.
You would both rather bitch and moan about the people who actually fight and declare your moral supremacy and how your shit doesn't stink.
In order to support Adams and Musk and Thiel and Trump and the other people that fight you would have to lower yourselves from your lofty self assumed perch.
Or you can just lie back and take it and nag everyone about how sad your situation is.
I don't believe the poll results.
From February 6, 2023 - in other words, just three weeks ago - "According to a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research that shows just 37% of Democrats say they want him to seek a second term."
What magic has Biden et al. worked since then to cause such a dramatic jump (and even the Emerson poll only had 58% wanting him to rerun in January) - the steady and expert response to the Palestine train derailment? His resolution of the war in the Ukraine? His adroit handling of Chinese hegemony? Stock record hitting new highs and inflation new lows?
If DeSantis runs, he will be the nominee. I don't think the GOP leadership will have to do anything for that outcome to happen. I also don't think it matters who the Republicans nominate- that candidate can't win. Democratcy has been fortified in enough states that Democrats literally can't lose.
To beat Biden in the primaries, all that really needs to happen is for a high profile mainstream Democrat to step up to the plate with a baseball bat in his hands. Newsom would wipe the floor with Joe "Shit For Brains" Biden- that is how weak Biden is politically. Biden couldn't win a single fucking primary or caucus on his own merit- it took the Democrats forcing everyone but Sanders and his ideological twin Warren out of the race, along with "fortifying" the Super Tuesday voting in March 2020 to get Biden's carcass over the finish line. Someone will challenge Biden- the opening is just simply too big for no one to try to take the nomination from Biden's cold dead hands.
The true issue in the 2024 election is whether or not a critical mass of people in this country are willing to fight the corruption versus the intellectual cowards who sit in their comfortable yet degrading quality of life.
The inevitable conclusion is not about whether Biden wins or Trump wins. We all know that the voting system is corrupt and they will find 140 million votes for Biden if they need to.
The question is whether or not US Citizens want to put forth the effort to maintain their freedom and earn their freedom.
People like Ann never deserved the freedom they were born into and given.
Drill Sgt,
Romney in 2012.
Biden 2024.
Smell the Mothballs!
The Althouse forecast does not appear well-timed. Kevin McCarthy released the Jan. 6 videos. That whole story will bust.
Hunter's business partner has been cooperating with investigators for several weeks, if not months.
If either of those developments matures, Biden will not be in the running for renomination. And even with only Democratic votes getting counted in federal elections, if by some miracle he evades the Fates a little longer, a greater miracle will occur when our revolted population finally revolts against the fascists.
As the bear market develops, there will be a lot of hatred for the established order seemingly emerging from nowhere. Biden, Pelosi, the FBI, even Warren Buffett will be anathemas.
That's what I read clear as day in the magic 8-ball.
'Death can intervene for anyone. That's why I don't mention it. That and the fact that there are evil and deranged people who should not be prodded.'
Neither Kamala nor Hillary would ever do such a thing...
This is just another day where someone thanks us for our service but goes on to show they didn't deserve to live in a free country.
Pretending like Biden and Trump are the same thing is just moral cowardice.
But people that voted for any Clinton are all about accepting their place in the hierarchy as a serf and letting the king rape the peasants whenever they want to as long as they get free abortions.
Absentee voter fraud will be in full swing again in 2024. WI, PA, GA, MI, and AZ. AZ is gone.
Trump is not the same "old man" that Biden is. Nor is he internationally corrupt and compromised by Chinese money and dirty deals in Ukraine.
Who knows what DeSantis brings to the race? He has to decide before summer.
Basically the headline reads "71% of Democrats are complete morons". Probably boosted.
Ann may be wrong. If the Dems indict and convict Trump, then he won't be the nominee.
And the Dems will win regardless who the GOP nominee is. Voting is not fair in several swing states like WI, MI, PA etc.
We are here because so many Americans wanted to "move on" in 2020, rather that address, fight, and correct the absentee voter fraud.
Saw an analogy yesterday. "Saying voter fraud cannot be addressed and prosecuted because the election is over, is like not prosecuting murder because the victim is already dead".
Turning a blind eye to what happened in 2020 was the gravest mistake of all. Now it's too late. We are on a one party totalitarian trajectory. Enjoy!!
Don't lump Trump in with Biden. Trump NEVER fraudulently took the oath of office. These two men are not the same.
I think people here exaggerate the extent of Biden's frailty, but he's doing a slow fade and at some point in time they will be underestimating the extent of his frailty. Well, look how the nation prospered and thrived under the wise leadership of Edith Wilson. Mrs. Biden is no Edith Wilson, but perhaps she'll rise to the occasion....I don't see Trump doing a slow fade. When it comes for him, it will be massive and sudden.....I think any fair minded person would agree that he is better at choosing Veeps than Biden so that's a big point in his favor.It should be noted, however, that his past Veep is not onboard with his candidacy.....I admire the way that Trump chose an age appropriate porn star to have his fling with, but I would hope that in the future he chooses porn stars with more discretion and commitment to their NDA. The various people that Trump has chosen to fill administration needs have not been notable for their commitment and loyalty to Trump.
If the Dems don't run Biden, they have to get rid of Kamala Harris. That will be rough and hard to do.
I’m a Trumper and would happily vote for him again, but I don’t think it’s a given that he will be the Republican nominee. In fact, I suspect that the odds are slightly not in his favor. His support in this last election did not produce successful outcomes in many cases. He would have to win many delegates in states with independent party organizations who would prefer to pick someone who could win.
- Krumhorn
“I-I-I may be a white boy, but I’m not stupid!”
—- President Joe Biden
Iman FactCheck: Half-True; Biden is white, but he is stupid.
It doesn't matter. We are post democratic now. We have a single party that is driving our country to ruin.
I didn't think Biden's health would survive through one term, yet here is prepped for a second. I give up on predictions, or even odds-on probabilities.
My advice to myself and others is to hold on to that 2016 feeling. No matter how redundant and pointless politics feels, surprise and thrills are still possible. The American people are amazing, despite the press' agenda to demoralize and control us.
This does seem to counter recent polling. Almost as if this poll was ordered up for a purpose.
tommyesq said...
What magic has Biden et al. worked since then to cause such a dramatic jump (and even the Emerson poll only had 58% wanting him to rerun in January) - the steady and expert response to the Palestine train derailment? His resolution of the war in the Ukraine? His adroit handling of Chinese hegemony? Stock record hitting new highs and inflation new lows?
Who else have they got? AOC? Omar? Swallwell? Buttigieg? Fetterman, fer pete's sake? Not many Dems left that can dodge being labeled as a niche candidate.
Meanwhile.. Dr Fraudci says...
https://nypost.com/2023/02/28/fauci-says-we-may-never-know-origin-of-covid-despite-report/
Dr Fraudci KNOWS that the documents that HE burnt will Never be recovered; so noone will Ever Prove anything
"Voting is not fair in several swing states like WI, MI, PA etc."
Those are not swing states, David. Other than Trump in 2016, those three states have been solidly Democrat for 30+ years, and almost 40 for Wisconsin. Trump was sui generis. Any other Republican loses those states by 5%+ in 2016 and 2020.
True swing states today, are North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Ohio, Iowa, maybe Nevada, and Florida still. Here is the hard truth- a Republican can win all of those, and still lose the election.
HBTPFH: "BTW - No way the corrupt powers that be will allow anyone BUT Trump to be the GOP nominee."
Demonstrably incapable of learning.
And its written at a moment of peak democratical activity to remove Trump.
Turning a blind eye to what happened in 2020 was the gravest mistake of all. Now it's too late. We are on a one party totalitarian trajectory. Enjoy!!
Yes but I blame the Trump campaign for ignoring the mail-in ballot plan early on. Bush managed to get enough votes to win in 2000 after the election. But that was before industrial strength fraud arrived. Kushner had way too much power in 2020. Trump wanted to open the economy on Memorial Day but was over ruled by his staff (Kushner). Kushner hired the GOPe campaign manager who spent all the money by September. The virus was a nuclear strike by China, helped by their American allies. It worked but could have been countered by smarter people around Trump.
It doesn't matter that 71% of Donks favor Biden running for his second term because he may not make it through four years and he certainly isn't ready to commit suicide by beginning the campaign whirlwind now and continuing to fight off Russian genocide, Iranian nukes, and domestic spending levels in 2024, all of which will send him and the U.S. economy to the doghouse.
Theyre not elections any more.
He's going to get much worse. Imagine what they will be installing in 2 years.
If people are stupid enough to keep voting for Trump, then they deserve what they get.
That's pretty funny, thank you.
If two old guys lead the 2024 tickets, then perhaps voters will pay attention to the VP. Nothing says desperation quite like ANY POSSIBLE Dem VP. They're all nimrods, uniformly awful, and people should stop pretending otherwise. But, consider how you might reassess Trump's chances if his VP is (wait for it), ..., DeSantis. And if you presume DeSantis is an idealogue, impractical and in Rove's back pocket, then you have to conclude DeSantis isn't as smart as everyone seems to think he is. Enjoy your vacay.
The one that had to get through the possum senate
Dave Begley said...
Ann may be wrong. If the Dems indict and convict Trump, then he won't be the nominee.
And the Dems will win regardless who the GOP nominee is. Voting is not fair in several swing states like WI, MI, PA etc.
1. I am completely confident that Trump will be indicted before the fall of '24. I sort of wonder if there is enough time to actually get a conviction against Trump, if he determines that his status as a political figure and as a declared candidate helps him to buy some time and muddy the prosecution waters.
2. Where are you getting information that "Voting is not fair in...MI..."? I have pretty patiently done this with you before. You had nothing. In Michigan, a state-senate (Republican majority, Republican chaired) fully investigated the 2020 election and found that no results were fraudulent or incorrect. They basically ran every conspiracy theory to ground. I've given you this link before; this is the last time I am going to indulge you on this. Michigan Senate Oversight Committee
Blogger Gusty Winds said...
We are here because so many Americans wanted to "move on" in 2020, rather that address, fight, and correct the absentee voter fraud.
Michigan, a classically purple state like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, was strongly Republican-governed for much of the last 40 years. State legislative majorities; a mostly-Republican state supreme court. Republican Governors for 20 of the 28 years in 1990-2018.
It's fallen apart, post-Trump. The MI-GOP is now in chaos; virtually bankrupt. The state party is run by TrumpWing election-denying conspiracists and no donors want anything to do with them. At the state convention two weeks ago, few ranking Republicans attended. The outgoing party co-chair (and biggest donor) skipped the meeting. This was rich; they had made a deal for Kari Lake to be the keynote speaker, but Lake bailed when they couldn't pay her.
Michigan has universal no-excuse absentee voting. Enacted in 2018, and put into place for 2020. Why? It wasn't COVID; and it wasn't Democratic legislative gamesmanship. Rather, in a popular referendum on the 2018 general election ballot, a large majority of voters voted for the change.
Trump is the only person in America who would lose to Biden. Any other Republican blows him away.
. It's different because I can see it's different. We're in a ridiculous fix. But I'm not going to make it worse by struggling.
Ann, you are embracing the Serenity Prayer. "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."
Goes with Christian,(and a host of other faiths) teaching to accept you higher power, will tend to your worries. All you have to do is accept the outcome as being exactly what is Gods will.
Gerontocracy? Kakistocracy.
Before November I would have said it's a ridiculous projection. Then Fetterman got elected and I figured nothing matters anymore to voters. Just the small 'D' next to the name of the person on the ballot they are handed and asked to sign.
The best we can hope for is that this is a bad phase we're going through.
PS- We're all hoping Joe does run again.
Democraticals.
William said:
"Well, look how the nation prospered and thrived under the wise leadership of Edith Wilson."
Maybe I missed your sarcasm but the nation didn't thrive under the leadership of Edith Wilson. The US went through a severe albeit short depression in 1919-1920. Peak to trough, the real inflation adjusted economy contracted by 21%. Recovery did not come until after Harding's election. Prohibition started under Edith Wilson and the infamous "Palmer Raids" reached their peak, resulting in 350,000 Americans arrested for purely political reasons. In the election of 1920, Socialist Eugene V Debs had to conduct his campaign from a jail cell. He was pardoned by President Harding. The Versailles Treaty forced on the Germans laid the ground work for World War II.
I would expect Dr Jill to do no better.
lonejustice: "If people are stupid enough to keep voting for Trump, then they deserve what they get."
We need a reinvigorated Dream Ticket of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan again. How else will we get democratical policy victories across the board at a slightly slower pace?
Chuck, you imbecile. What exactly would Trump be indicted for? You really are insane. Clinically insane. Go away. Go back to the Fauci-loving left-wing hellhole you came from. Father a child on Inga to preserve a set of DNA to be avoided at all costs throughout humanity. Go ahead- indict every Republican, conservative, libertarian or otherwise not braindead individual in the country, lock them up in solitary confinement and throw away the keys. Guess what- the country will still have the same problems, because people like you ARE the problem.
The Dems are stuck with Biden because they simply don't have anybody else. Democrats don't merely have a shallow bench, they don't have a bench at all.
But I was surprised this morning when I saw Trump's lead among Republican primary voters. Republicans do have alternatives. At least one, anyway. It boggles the mind that so many people want to be thrown in that pit again when they don't need to be.
Achilles said...
The inevitable conclusion is not about whether Biden wins or Trump wins. We all know that the voting system is corrupt and they will find 140 million votes for Biden if they need to.
I was going to say, unless something is done about mail-in ballot fraud, it's kind of like being in Cuba in the '60s through the '90s and debating Castro's opponents' chances of winning.
A critical political lesson: Americans prefer weak presidents and divided government; Joe Biden v Donald Trump guarantees they’ll get what they want.
I'm a "Democrat" who thinks Biden is our best candidate for 2024. Not awfully happy about that. He is too old.
I doubt Trump will be the Republican candidate. He is also too old, and he will definitely keep turning people off with his stupid mouth.
PS: As a Pennsyltuckian, Fetterman got elected only because of his ridiculous opponent. Sort of like that guy in Georgia.
Are you sure the prompt wasn't:
"As a Democrat, who should be the 2024 nominee, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris?"
Chuck said...
The state party is run by TrumpWing election-denying conspiracists and no donors want anything to do with them.
The voter fraud in MI, WI, AZ, GA, and PA was very real. COVID was the purposeful catalyst.
You are obviously happy with the outcome of the fraud and are in full support of it. I'd imagine that is quite common among liberals.
We are here for a long time because people like you support it, and many others are afraid to address it.
Yes but I blame the Trump campaign for ignoring the mail-in ballot plan early on.
And he frankly ran a poor campaign. He let the Democrats beat him up in slick TV ads over the lockdowns without — as far as I can see — trying to fight back. It’s not as though Biden — who had labeled efforts to restrict flights to the US from China as “xenophobic” was immune to criticism over the COVID response.
The reason Trump is leading is because NO ONE has picked up the mantle and is running as MAGA.
Its simple. Republicans voters need to wake up, and realize the current crop of "Leaders" don't want to win. These "leaders" would rather LOSE, then give the Republican voters what they want: Secure borders, no illegal immigration, no outsourcing of jobs or bad trade deals, pushback on social liberalism, an end to useless foreign wars, and law and order.
Instead GOPe wants to "reach accross the Aisle" and help the Democrats pass their liberal social agenda, fight 4 wars (with russia, China, Iran, and Syria), cut social security and medicare, pass Amnesty, and give the Big Donors tax breaks.
These stupid clowns would nominate Mitt Romney in 2024, if they could.
That's why Trump will win the nomination. But as long as "the base" keeps voting for Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, etc. etc. nothing wil change in Congress.
If Republicans field anyone other than Trump against Biden, they will win. Can't they figure this out?
As for "the fix being in", why don't the Republicans in the key states get off their asses and do something? At the very least they can stop voting for State legislatures who REFUSE to reform the election laws.
Of course all this came about because the GOPe wants to lose, and Trump was stupid. As Dr.K states, putting Kushner in charge of his campaign was a major factor in his loss. Frankly, I don't know what you can do, when the D's are playing 3-D chess and the Republicans can't even figure out their next move on the checker board.
Process matters. DC is now letting foreigners vote. And this will spread to other states. Will the R's stop it? Ask the RNC.
Trump will get the GOP nomination and go on to lose the election
Ann as someone who has studied and followed Presidential elections for so long give yourself the thought experiment: If you were assigned to beat Trump in the Republican Nomination process, how would you do it?
My take: Trump is beatable. His strength is in his ability to give quick answers and adjust as appropriate. He has no shame. He always attacks. He doesn't worry about doing the wrong attack (McCain war hero, as an example). He just turns his "defeats" into wins. Another candidate with better looks, better speaking style, but same attitudes can win against him.
On paper, there was no way that Trump should have won the 2016 nomination. But Trump figured out a loophole. Traditionally, the GOP controls who the candidate is by funding. It's why the GOP candidates often end up being the guy "who's next in line". Dole, Bush, Romney, McCain. They thought they could control Trump through funding. There's a scene in Showtime's "The Circus" where the money men of the Republican party are sitting at a dinner and talking about how they will stop Trump from winning the nomination because he won't get any money.
Trump was able to bypass that though because a) he is a billionaire but more importantly, b) he ran a very cheap and efficient campaign. He used his twitter account to lead to free media on the cable news channels. He was newsworthy, so he gathered attention. People listened because they wanted to hear what crazy thing he was going to say next. It was efficient because it was constantly changing strategies and emphasizing new points. Using ads A/B tested on social media to drive further engagement.
The old days of arranging for campaign ads during Wheel of Fortune and mailers filling peoples mailboxes is not going to win a presidential election. The new campaign has to be on Facebook and Twitter. It has to be ads that are viral. You don't have time to hire a Madison avenue agency to come up with a Daisy or Morning in America ad and put it on TV. You put it on TikTok or Twitter and let it go viral. The candidate has to be funny, and strong, and a guy you'd want to have a beer with. Romney wasn't that candidate.
One such candidate in the Trump mold is Vivek Ramaswamy who just announced a run.
Biden couldn't win a single fucking primary or caucus on his own merit
And that issue outlines how the Democrats control the nomination. Namely, through the process. They use super-delegates and party control of things like caucuses to engineer who wins various contests to give the appearance of a "horse race". In the past that was used by the greatest generation to make sure that the more liberal elements of the party didn't take control. They wanted to avoid the 1968 convention strife and the shellacking they took with Mondale. In the 2016 and 2020 elections the party engineered the process to ensure that Bernie Sanders did not get the nomination.
If Biden is the nominee the democrats lose. They know that, so they will look for a different candidate to fill in the role. Also, don't underestimate Hillary getting back into the race. She has nothing to lose.
Democracy has been fortified in enough states that Democrats literally can't lose.
It still requires a "margin of fraud" calculus. Each election is its own entity. And presents its own risks for cheating. The more cheating is needed the easier it is to find. Some people may have been willing to overlook cheating to defeat Trump, but may not be willing to do that with another candidate.
letting the king rape the peasants whenever they want to as long as they get free abortions.
King, and Queen in her turn. Bennies for babies.
The midterm elections were an indication that over half the country will never support Trump. Things could be as bad in 2024 as they were in 2022 -- or even worse -- and he won't win.
It's possible that another Republican could win, but not that any Republican could win. Mike Pence? Larry Hogan? Vivek Ramaswami? Cruz? Rubio? Jeb Bush? Maybe not Nikki Haley either. Ron DeSantis? He might win, but it's hard for me to work up much enthusiasm for him.
Biden's Team have co-opted Trump's trade, deindustrialization, and drug cost issues. They certainly haven't done that with illegal immigration, but apparently half the country doesn't care about that. Inflation may be an important issue next year, but it wasn't last year. What's left for Republicans -- the usual conservative rhetoric -- doesn't have the same appeal that it had 40 years ago.
Has Biden returned from feathering his trail in Kiev in Maidan-gate? Vote for bennies for babies.
This election is for us conservatives to win. The US with all its flaws really is this world’s best hope. The Democrats seem to be invincible. They are not. All this Biden inevitability is liberal propaganda to dishearten us. Let’s not fall for it. And let’s not be goaded into anger, resentment, anything remotely illegal by Democrat/FBI/CIA apparatchiks. Trump 2024.
lonejustice: "If people are stupid enough to keep voting for Trump, then they deserve what they get."
Well. We had peace and prosperity under Trump. You don't like that? Michael said...
"Trump is the only person in America who would lose to Biden. Any other Republican blows him away."
No. No they don't. Because nobody knows who the "any other Republicans" are.
"George said...
If Republicans field anyone other than Trump against Biden, they will win. Can't they figure this out?"
Dream on. As long as the left controls the machinery of voting, Republicans will only win by sufferance, or because you're in someplace like Wyoming, where the balance of Dems to GOP is too massively tilted against the left to overcome by chicanery.
When I ask myself if there is anyone more worthy of contempt than Trump, I immediately think of Biden. He is like Trump without the modesty.
Michael said...
Trump is the only person in America who would lose to Biden. Any other Republican blows him away.
George said...
If Republicans field anyone other than Trump against Biden, they will win. Can't they figure this out?
We can figure out the corrupt DC regime hates Trump for a reason and will do anything they can to make Desantis or anyone else the nominee in 2024.
This includes anonymous troll farms that produce the same old stupid brain dead lines for stupid cruise ship NRO crotch sniffers. There are maybe 100 Chuck's out there.
It is not because Trump is a 75 million vote candidate and "anyone other than Trump" is a 65 million vote candidate.
It is because this is not Republican vs. Democrat. It is about more than Trump.
This is US Citizens vs. WEF Globalists and their willing serfs.
The mindset of Trumphate is amazing to watch. I don’t think satan, himself, is as hated. I hear so many twists to the Truth when recounting different situations involving Trump or conservatives/-ism that I can only shake my head.
The couple who defended their home against what they considered an armed mob(BLM)- the actual day of voting w/the many irregularities, shootings by cops, all tweaked to slant one way.
Ugh.
If Trump wins the nomination- great. Anyone else- great! Whatever it takes.
But…
Biden.
Hasn’t he hurt this country enough, already?
Brian said...
It still requires a "margin of fraud" calculus. Each election is its own entity. And presents its own risks for cheating. The more cheating is needed the easier it is to find. Some people may have been willing to overlook cheating to defeat Trump, but may not be willing to do that with another candidate.
This is the core of the problem boiled down to the nuts.
The Regime will accept a Romney or a Desantis. They will obviously accept a Bush.
For obvious reasons.
They do not threaten the DC rice bowl or the globalist agenda.
One in a plethora of slow-motion trainwrecks engulfing our country and culture:
1. "Defunding police" with no thought of the consequences or how to reverse the effects.
2. "End oil" with no thought to "then what?" [note you can observe the end result now in Europe and South Africa if you dare to look]
3. "All mail-in voting" without any effort to clean up bad voter registrations or national ID requirement.
4. "Modern Monetary Theory" How do you like your purchasing power erosion?
There's more much more but the presidential race might be one of the slowest of the slow-moving trains we are watching collide. Which conductor will survive (metaphorically) in the Presidential collision?
Michael K said...
"It seems most Democrats like the prog future the Biden regime plans. Cold and dark."
It may seem that way, but I think if registered Democrats really knew what the people in charge are up to, they wouldn't like it so much. But since most of them rely on social media and major news outlets, it's not likely that they will ever know.
Witness the end of the pro-life/anti-abortion politics with the end of Roe v. Wade.
That's akin to claiming that slavery ended with the 3/5 compromise, that diversity [dogma] ended with color agnosticism, that the wicked solution, human rites, clinical cannibalism, "burden" sequestration ends with a 1-2 political congruence.
"This election is for us conservatives to win. ... Trump 2024."
Why would a "conservative" vote for Trump?
Oh, no! Please don't run Joe Biden, Republicans wouldn't have a chance.
Reminds me of this from my (abolished) childhood (Brer Rabbit vs Brer Fox)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9oWq9zIXTY&t=13s
Eva Marie said...
This election is for us conservatives to win. The US with all its flaws really is this world’s best hope. The Democrats seem to be invincible. They are not. All this Biden inevitability is liberal propaganda to dishearten us. Let’s not fall for it. And let’s not be goaded into anger, resentment, anything remotely illegal by Democrat/FBI/CIA apparatchiks. Trump 2024.
No.
"Conservative" is not broad enough and not really what we need in the modern era.
At this point we are down to a disagreement about Principles such as Equal Protection and Free speech.
We have a government that mandates "Vaccines" that are now causing heart attacks in significant numbers.
We have a "Supreme Court" that allowed a private corporation to condemn private land through corrupt local officials in the Kelo Decision for corporate profits.
We have the largest corporations in the world actively partnering with the government to censor dissent.
"Conservatives" are going to have to ally with "Bernie Bro's" and "wine moms" and anti-war protesters, and worst of all Trump supporters that they feel so superior to.
We are all going to have to ally and fight back outside the electoral system because we are not voting our way out of this.
We are in a situation that goes beyond mere ideology. This is much more fundamental.
Big Mike said...
Yes but I blame the Trump campaign for ignoring the mail-in ballot plan early on.
And he frankly ran a poor campaign. He let the Democrats beat him up in slick TV ads over the lockdowns without — as far as I can see — trying to fight back. It’s not as though Biden — who had labeled efforts to restrict flights to the US from China as “xenophobic” was immune to criticism over the COVID response.
Trump got 75 million voters to vote for him.
Nobody ever ran a better campaign in the history of the country.
He is smarter than you. Your comment tries to pretend otherwise.
If someone wants to beat Trump in the Primary they will have to prove they will be more effective than Trump will fighting the powers that be.
Desantis is entirely funded by the powers that be.
Good luck with that.
It's far too soon to predict the candidates of the two predominant parties.
For one thing, either Trump or Biden -- and especially Biden -- may very well die of old age-related illness before the election. That's just a statistical fact.
Trump may very well NOT be the Republican candidate. Although he is currently favored in the polls, he will be faced in the primaries by well-funded and credible opponents, of whom DeSantis will be the strongest.
Biden is highly likely -- but not a cinch -- to be the Dem candidate. Many Dems are seriously concerned about his health.
Breezy said...
"If it’s Biden v Trump, the competition will be very different because each will have a track record as President."
Very true. I had not thought of that.
Breezy said...
"If it’s Biden v Trump, the competition will be very different because each will have a track record as President."
Very true. I had not thought of that.
"Fetterman got elected only because of his ridiculous opponent."
There are no mirrors in Pennsylvania.
"Fetterman got elected only because of his ridiculous opponent."
There are no mirrors in Pennsylvania.
OK, I was experimenting with getting ChatGPT to write a post in Althouse's style, using the paid version, which is much better. Here is what it came up with:
"Ah, the joys of political correctness. Even the president's physical examination can't escape the wrath of trigger-happy individuals who can't resist the urge to make inappropriate jokes. It's a sad state of affairs, to be sure.
But let's focus on the positives, shall we? Biden may be 80 years old, but he's still going strong. That photo of him jogging across the South Lawn is truly inspiring. It's a testament to his health and vitality, and it's a reassuring reminder that age is just a number.
Yes, the gerontocracy is here to stay. But let's not despair. We're in good hands with President Biden at the helm. He's a man who knows how to get things done, and he's not afraid to tackle the tough issues. So let's snuggle up and enjoy the ride. The next six years are sure to be a wild and crazy adventure!"
I am not sure it got the bolded ideas from any of the examples I fed it. He is not afraid to tackle the tough issues if by tough issues, you mean going around looking for hornets' nests and smacking them with a broomstick.
A lot of commenters seem to wonder why so many voters are sticking with Trump. First, he is the first Republican in years who kept his promises. Like everyone else, I was skeptical about him. Defeating Hillary was like throwing brick through the establishment's window. That was good enough and all I expected. Instead, in spite of hysterical resistance by the Deep State, he accomplished a lot. By 2020 we were exporting oil and gas for the first time since Jimmy Carter destroyed the US energy industry.
I suspect the Covid virus was a Chinese strike to defeat Trump. The irony is that we were funding the lab and not knowing it. The rest of the world may have been collateral damage, but it worked.
Feelin' like you're Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove, riding that bomb on down doesn't it?
Like rcocean said... The pay's the same whether you win or not!
Tim Maguire: "But I was surprised this morning when I saw Trump's lead among Republican primary voters. Republicans do have alternatives. At least one, anyway. It boggles the mind that so many people want to be thrown in that pit again when they don't need to be."
THIS is precisely the clueless mindset that the allegedly "thinking person" Republican has.
You don't get it. At all. We are in "the pit" right now, and Trump is the only one who seems to be willing to say it, and do something about it.
Maybe one candidate can come out and say that the election of 2020 was rigged, that Trump was the victim of a witch hunt. That the first thing he will do is pardon everybody for J6 except Ray Epps and the FBI. That the second thing he will do is clean house at the FBI, starting with Chris Wray, and then move on to the CIA. That his campaign will do everything legally possible to prevent, expose and litigate voter fraud. That he will ask all political officials, at all levels, to pledge and work to eliminate "mail-out, mail-in" voting, same-day registration, extended voting, ballot harvesting, and all of the various vote-rigging schemes which currently plague us. You want the vote of Trump voters, you had better earn it--by getting mud on you. By facing down the media. By calling out your party. By telling voters that you will fight for what they want--not what the DC consensus wants. By getting smeared and lied about and backstabbed.
Disantis may be the guy. But he's going to have to earn it.
"This election is for us conservatives to win. ... Trump 2024."
jim: "Why would a "conservative" vote for Trump?"
Because its not 2015/2016 any more when all the "true conservatives" could plausibly argue that Trump wasn't a "real conservative" and wouldn't deliver on conservative policies and besides was just yucky along with all of his yucky supporters.
Of course, its 2023 now and we watched for 4 years while Trump fought for the most conservative policies with zero support from all the "true conservatives", most of whom ended up advocating voting for Hillary anyway because of "Muh principles", so the slogans from 2015/2016 are no longer viable.
Jim, would you like to try this again? Maybe your last effort was stymied by low blood sugar or something.
Achilles: ""Conservatives" are going to have to ally with "Bernie Bro's" and "wine moms" and anti-war protesters, and worst of all Trump supporters that they feel so superior to."
They will never do it.
In the end, as they usually do anyway, they will all go with the establishment republican allies of the dems.
Ancient Mariner: "Biden is highly likely -- but not a cinch -- to be the Dem candidate. Many Dems are seriously concerned about his health."
LOL
Biden could be legally dead and the dems would still vote for him. Its quite irrelevant who the dem candidate is or what the condition of that candidate happens to be.
Besides, with the explicit ringing character endorsements of Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Lindsay Graham amongst others, why wouldn't Biden run again, even if he is laid out on a gurney for the entire campaign?
"This is just another day where someone thanks us for our service but goes on to show they didn't deserve to live in a free country."
The military hasn't done anything to protect or preserve our freedom since WWII, (and rarely before that). The many military conflicts that pepper our recent history (and most of our older history) were not about protecting America or our freedom, but were wars to acquire land, resources or control of resources, to bend other nations to our will, to benefit America's imperial aims and corporate interests, etc. I don't doubt the sincere intent of most servicemen and women, but they are used for the profit- and power-seeking ends of liars, pirates, and murderers in high places. (This is true, as well, of most warring nations throughout history.)
As General Smedley Butler put it: "I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."
He wrote the above in the 1930s, and post-WWII, we have only expanded our global gangsterism.
lonejustice: "If people are stupid enough to keep voting for Trump, then they deserve what they get."
Rusty: "Well. We had peace and prosperity under Trump. You don't like that?"
Of course he/she doesn't like that. And he/she really doesn't like you mentioning that is what we had. In the future, if you are going to mention that kind of stuff, you will be reminded that "any republican President would have done those things" even though the establishment republicans opposed every step it took to deliver those outcomes.
There are quite a few GOPe programmed NPC's on this side of the aisle as well.
Brian said...
If you were assigned to beat Trump in the Republican Nomination process, how would you do it?
If you want to beat Trump in the GOP primary you have to go after his support of the poison mRNA "vaccine". It's his biggest weakness among his base. I think this will be DeSantis' greatest strength. When it comes to the shots, DeSantis is clean. The affects of the mRNA and spike proteins will get worse over time. Especially for those to take the boosters.
However, the current lack of voluntary booster participation tells you people think its bullshit. And they now don't want it mandated for their children.
The Trump/MAGA base are probably the largest percentage of Americans who resisted shot #1. We are not sheep, not do we blindly worship Trump and an idol.
"I'd already factored in my belief that Trump will get the GOP nomination and go on to lose the election."
May I point out that at a slightly later time in the 2020 cycle you predicted that Liz Warren would be the Dem nominee.
This is history in the making. Join the fight.
The Trump Humper twins throw out lame, boring, bad faith, incorrect assumptions and insults - which is why they are Trump Humper twins.
"If the Dems indict and convict Trump, then he won't be the nominee."
And when they indict and convict DeSantis who will it be?
Yancey: "True swing states today, are North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Ohio, Iowa, maybe Nevada, and Florida still. Here is the hard truth- a Republican can win all of those, and still lose the election."
You are correct. Another reason for Althouse to limit campaign coverage. What difference, at this point, does it make?
The irony is that we were funding the lab and not knowing it. The rest of the world may have been collateral damage, but it worked.
You have to abort a few million babies, annually, globally, in order to mitigate the progress of a few "burdens". Will no one rid [royal] Us of these meddlesome fetuses.
Achilles said "Conservative" is not broad enough and not really what we need in the modern era.” and “ Conservatives" are going to have to ally with "Bernie Bro's" and "wine moms" and anti-war protesters, and worst of all Trump supporters that they feel so superior to. ”
I agree with just about everything you say. I don’t understand the bit about Trump supporters or your definition of conservatives - both minor points.
So let me add: Conservatives are Trump supporters - although not all Trump supporters are conservatives. We conservatives welcome everyone in the battle (metaphorically speaking, of course) to conserve the principles as laid out in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.
I’m all for everyone helping to wrest power away from the Democratic Party and their deep state sidekicks - and doing it in their own way AS LONG AS we all turn the metaphorical fight outward and not inward. There’s a whole nation of voters to pull away from the lockstep of the Democratic Party. Trump 2024
HBTPFH: "The Trump Humper twins throw out lame, boring, bad faith, incorrect assumptions and insults - which is why they are Trump Humper twins."
LOL
You should spend more time figuring out just who is funding who and why that might be.
However, since you are you, that's highly unlikely to occur.
Go ahead and tell us more about how the democraticals are protecting Trump to ensure he is the nominee.
Talk about lame, bad faith and incorrect assumptions with a dash of just plain ignorance and blinders tossed in.
"We had peace and prosperity under Trump."
How did we have any greater peace under Trump than under Obama...or Biden? Our combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan were not ended until 2021--under Biden (though we still have troops in both countries). I think the US is at war of some kind with someone all the time, even if it is not being waged militarily, but in terms of overt "US vs. Someone Else" shooting wars, we are more at peace now than under Trump.
As for prosperity under Trump, yes, things were good, though not entirely due to Trump. Trump was fortunate to come into office as the US economy was on a continuing ascent from Obama's two terms--an economy that had collapsed at the end of Bush's second term. Bush was a runner in a relay race and he picked up the baton from Obama. (Trump was also fortunate to have lost the 2020 election, as the global inflation and economic straits we have been experiencing would have been Trump's burden to explain away.) The conditions that led to the economic slump and global inflation were birthed during Trump's last year in office, a result of the COVID pandemic. (Prosperity and collapse typically are due to widespread conditions--either sudden or long in developing--not always within the control of the President.) The economy is still shaky and can go anywhere, but indicators suggest some improvement at this time, though global events--such as the ongoing war in Ukraine--can play unpredictable havoc at any time.
Election Reformers Get New Tool to Pressure States to Clean Up Voter Rolls
"A new interactive website database is now available free to individual citizens and election reform groups across the country to help in the fight to get all states to obey a federal election law mandating regular voter roll maintenance.
The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF), a national, non-profit, law firm dedicated to election integrity, announced the launch of the website on Feb. 27.
The data provided on the website is designed to encourage some defiant state election officials to comply with the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA)."
[snip]
"Since November 2020. PILF has tried to encourage and assist Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, to remove 25,975 deceased individuals from the voter rolls of her state.
Of these 23,663 have been dead for five years or more, with 17,479 of them being dead for at least a decade, and 3,956 have been deceased for at least 20 years.
After a year of inaction, PILF filed a federal lawsuit to force Benson to comply with NVRA.
In response, Benson filed a motion to dismiss PILF’s case.
On Aug. 25, 2022, the United States Western District Court of Michigan denied Benson’s motion to dismiss.
The court also denied the motions to intervene filed by the Michigan Alliance for Retired Americans, the Detroit Downriver Chapter of the A. Philip Randolph Institute, and Rise, Inc., all liberal activist groups.
The Michigan Secretary of State Office does not comment on pending litigation.
Presidential Citizens Award
In an online statement, Adams called it “remarkable” that after the data was shared with Benson, the dead registrants remained on Michigan’s voter rolls.
“It is astonishing that Secretary Benson is so vigorously opposing effective list maintenance,” he said.
Adams said the ongoing lawsuit was the first step to reducing the opportunity for fraud in Michigan elections and ensuring that dead people are not receiving ballots.
In January 2023, Benson traveled to the White House to be presented with the Presidential Citizens Award by President Joe Biden, in honor of her service in the office and her courage in standing up to election-denying protesters, Biden said.
The award is America’s second-highest civilian award given to a citizen for “exemplary deeds or services for his or her country or fellow citizens.”
Nothing to see here: move along.
I am really enjoying this thread. LOL funny, scary and depressing at the same time!
I don’t see how a strategy of writing-off Trump from the start will in, any way, produce that sought-for Republican candidate who’s “the same, only better.”
Even if you oppose him, Trump’s enormous gravity needs to be used to absorb incoming deep state establishment meteors and to propel a successful substitute candidate into orbit.
Without Trump serving as both lightning rod and foil, it just won’t happen.
If Tucker Carlson is correct, only the vote of the CIA will ultimately count. We should find-out who they prefer. Think they'll tell us?
It’s more of a post-President executive at this point. I’m not sure we even need a live body anymore…
alanc709 said...
Chuck, you imbecile. What exactly would Trump be indicted for? You really are insane. Clinically insane. Go away. Go back to the Fauci-loving left-wing hellhole you came from. Father a child on Inga to preserve a set of DNA to be avoided at all costs throughout humanity. Go ahead- indict every Republican, conservative, libertarian or otherwise not braindead individual in the country, lock them up in solitary confinement and throw away the keys. Guess what- the country will still have the same problems, because people like you ARE the problem.
So; I am an "imbecile," "insane," "Clinically insane." All for being confident that Trump is going to be indicted.
Bookmarked. 2/28/23.
OT, but Chris Wray is much less believable than he thinks himself to be. Bullshit claims of ONE STANDARD flying in the face of evidence to the contrary.
You didn't vote in the last election Ann... live with it. You deemed it ok no matter what the outcome. Fence sitting is fence sitting... you get whatever comes. So... you happy with Biden?
You lost me at........"71% of Democratic Voters Think
The dem machine is probably going to have to off him.
Once they get the Cackleamala thing fixed.
So; I am an "imbecile," "insane," "Clinically insane." All for being confident that Trump is going to be indicted.
I don't know if Trump will be indicted by one of these Kangaroo courts/Grand juries but you are still an imbecile and should have stayed banned.
71% believing Biden is fit as a fiddle, is way more than the 42% who said they believed is ok to be white.
I don't know, that sounded like some kind of pithy point in my head.
If what they say about the aging population is true... Biden is an early preview... an early bird special preview of things to come.
As for prosperity under Trump, yes, things were good, though not entirely due to Trump. Trump was fortunate to come into office as the US economy was on a continuing ascent from Obama's two terms-
Cook, you are as bad as Chuck. Obama presided over the continuous decline of the American economy. His "Recovery Summers" never appeared. I will grant that he had a problem inheriting the Bush 2008 collapse but he never got the recovery going. Had he read Nicole Gelinas' book, After the fall, he might have been better served then "Das Kapital," which he (and you) has memorized.
If this country elects an octogenarian in 2024, either of them, it deserves whatever disastrous fate befalls it.
Drill SGT - I am 99% certain Ann voted W in 2004.
Indictment watch!
Vs. Trump is ahead in the polls! Which he is - right on Q. If the left want to engineer a Trump win, they will. They love to hate him - and they need him.
Humper Twin - the left are terrified of DeSantis. So no worries! They are already telling us that Trump is it. He is already the nominee. Be happy, man.
...All while they lure the Chucks and the Gadfly's into believing the walls are closing in on his indictment. LOL. Your man Trump is it all over again.
Two old used car salesmen it iss. yippee.
Funding? No matter. Trump can self-fund now that many of his former donors are over him. Again- be happy.
Chuck said...
"The state party is run by TrumpWing election-denying conspiracists and no donors want anything to do with them."
Chuck- FINE! Shut up and be the democrat that you are. and piss off too.
I'm no Trump fan-boi but I think the left cheated. Bite me.
"So; I am an "imbecile," "insane," "Clinically insane." All for being confident that Trump is going to be indicted."
No. Because you're a liar. As in. Not believable. Dishonorable. Without honor.
Robert
Trump presided over the highest black employment since the 1960s. If that isn't prosperity then I don't know what is. The lowest overall unemployment since Reagan.
80 is the new 60.
Besides, the USA is circling the drain, no matter who naps in the oval office.
May as well eliminate the position of fake president as dumb ass Biden has proven to be nothing but a destructive puppet, maybe dr Jill can run.
Let President Trump & his beautiful wife just take over again from Mara Lago, drain the swamp.
Ann, you mean win? Like this?...
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/michigan-republican-board-of-canvasser-who-certified-2020-fraud-election-is-hired-by-democrat-ag-dana-nessel/
Wayne County's voter fraud was visible from space!
HBTPFH: "Humper Twin - the left are terrified of DeSantis. So no worries! They are already telling us that Trump is it. He is already the nominee. Be happy, man."
Your rhetorical inconsistency is off the charts.
You've spent months lecturing all and sundry that the dems want Trump and will clear the path for him...all the while they are working overtime at all levels in multiple venues desperately seeking ways to make sure he CANNOT run.
You need to work on trying to resolve your massive cognitive dissonance.
Don't be an idiot Drago.
The left attack Trump in every direction, because they can. It is an addiction. They are addicted to "walls are closing in" headlines. The left cannot stop themselves. The biggest fear they have is losing their beat-on-the brat Trumpie.
The left love to trash any R, Trump is merely their top walking-talking target rich environment.
Yes - they want to destroy him, AND keep him on the front page at the same time. These a-holes know what they are going, and Trump walks into all of it.
So yes - my prediction stands. Trump will face crook Biden in 2024 - and he will lose.
going = doing.
"So yes - my prediction stands. Trump will face crook Biden in 2024 - and he will lose."
A gratuitous assertion that can be equally gratuitously denied. No he won't.
What is interesting here isn't the 71% figure. A figure I think is highly suspect given Bidens approval ratings. No. The interesting figure is the other 29%. That twenty nine percent represents the people that are undecided, will not vote at all or will vote the other party. That's quite a lot of people out of 81 million. About 23 million who won't be voting for Biden. If just one third of those 23 million vote the other party it is a win for Trump.
This is the D primary vote poll. who knows if it is real? (I think not)
The powers that be will engineer who the nominees are from both parties.
What kind of nitwits would impose QuidProJoe on the country for two terms, particularly given his performance. And never mind his corruption. Oh. I know. Democrats.
Do these Democrats want Fetterman as his V.P. Or how about Gisele? Maxine?
I'm desperately hoping that some true conservative does a Trump and emerges from the shadows to run for President in 2024. If he was a younger man, I'd be supporting James Woods. (or Clint Eastwood)
Ms. Althouse is right to abstain from covering this "It's different because I can see it's different. We're in a ridiculous fix. But I'm not going to make it worse by struggling."
Although it means we will lose the Fine threads of comments like today's thread.
I said before that our last real American election was 2016, and we are bumbling down past Venezuela on our way to Pol Pot.
Speaking of which, this Twitter thread from a resident of South Africa is worth a read, ideally with a gin and tonic in hand, you may need it.
https://twitter.com/k9_reaper/status/1630436052723720193?s=20
Doug said...
"The dem machine is probably going to have to off him.
...
Once they get the Cackleamala thing fixed."
Nah. They'll just game the primaries as they have in the past sevetal election cycles.
Why don’t the Democrats know what Trump accomplished?
Because the media did a terrible job of reporting it. I’m amazed at how few people realize the records he set:
First President in history to serve a full term and increase the deficit every year he was in office.
First President in history to maintain a debt to GDP ratio over 100% for his entire term
Highest annual budget deficit
Most added to the national debt in a single term
Most new unemployment claims
Largest single day point drop in the history of the Dow
First President in almost a century to lose jobs in his first term
First major party candidate in half a century to lose the popular vote twice
Longest government shutdown in history (and he did that while his own party controlled both chambers of Congress)
First President in the history of approval ratings to maintain a net negative approval rating for his entire term
First President to be impeached twice
First President to have bipartisan support for his conviction after impeachment (which happened both times)
Most indictments, guilty pleas, and criminal convictions of members of an administration
And again, that’s just a few of the records! There are so many more things he accomplished! He flatlined a strong economy even before the pandemic. He wasted millions on golfing (with much of that going back to into his own pockets). He wasted millions more rebranding part of the Air Force to look like Star Trek cosplayers. He wasted billions more on an idiotic vanity wall that’s already falling over. He told tens of thousands of lies. He violated the Emoluments Clause and the Hatch Act more times than I can remember. Plus he sabotaged our operations in Afghanistan, sabotaged gas prices with an idiotic deal with OPEC to create a global oil shortage, forgot what country he bombed at least once, tweeted a classified a photo, and he committed a war crime by ordering the assassination of an Iranian general in violation of international treaties.
Then there were all of his brilliant ideas that were never realized. Like preventing wildfires by raking the forests, nuking hurricanes, and treating Covid by cutting open people’s lungs and wiping them down with Lysol and letting them dry in the sun. Just think how much more he could have accomplished if those godless liberals hadn’t stopped him from suspending the Constitution and declaring himself President for life!
And all the conspiracy believers here, trump won, (no proof courts validated no truth) it was stolen, CIA, FBI Chavez, Dominion did it, and their mouthpiece FOX just told them it was all a lie, THE BIG LIE. See Rupert Murdoch CMON MAN trump 2024 I sure hope so but good luck with that, way too much baggage. TRUMP is a Bonafide loser and if you aren't tired of losing, he's still your man. You'll have no choice because the solid 30% will vote again for him eliminating all the want to be folks in a primary. (and then Sleepy Joe really destroys him this time).GOP needs a autopsy report! oh wait they had one and it didn't work. Next as Joe Friday would say "just the facts ma'am just the facts(not alternative ones they were just created )
Dinky Dau seems to be having some sort of medical or chemical "event".
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