Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) withheld support for a joint statement condemning last weekend's protests against Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) because it also wouldn't include a rebuke of her political views, Axios has learned.....An email exchange between Senate Democratic leadership aides, obtained by Axios, reveals Sanders withheld his name from a joint statement declaring protesters who followed Sinema into a bathroom — and filmed her while using the restroom — as "plainly inappropriate and unacceptable."
Was Sinema filmed using the toilet? I thought she'd retreated into the space to get away, but find it hard to believe she'd use the toilet under this pressure, unless she had a physical emergency. I realize it is possible in most public bathrooms for someone outside the stall to hold a camera over/under the wall/door of the stall and photograph a person inside. Did that happen to Sinema?
Back to Axios:
Sanders' communications director Mike Casca asked that the statement be edited to include the preface, "While we hope Senator Sinema will change her position on prescription drug reform and support a major [budget] reconciliation bill, ..." An aide to Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), who organized the statement, said Booker would not accept the edits.
Good for Booker!
Casca later replied: "Sanders will not be signing, so please cut 'Senate Democratic Leadership Team' from headline."... The statement has not been published. It's currently unclear whether it will run....
On Monday, Biden told reporters he didn't think the protesters' tactics were "appropriate," then added, "but it happens to everybody." The president went on to say, "The only people it doesn’t happen to are people who have Secret Service standing around them. So, it’s part of the process."
Wow. It's just the rough and tumble of politics! Nice way to insinuate that maybe women don't belong in politics. I'd say even if it "happens to everybody," it wouldn't be right to slough it off as "part of the process."
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That's what I expect from Sanders. Everything is a vehicle to further his political goals.
It was quite something to see the actual visual when Biden added that doesn't happen to somebody who has Secret Service protection. The pleased smile that accompanied that observation was kind of creepy.
I hope if it ever happens again to her she empties a couple of cans of pepper spray on the "protesters."
At present the only correct analysis is: They don’t have the votes.
Everything else is gobble gobble gobble…
Demonstrations in the Capitol Building are "part of the process" too. Just ask Kavanaugh or consult a little recent history.
Isn't Sanders the guy who wrote about women and their rape fantasies?
"filmed her while using the restroom"
Once you enter a restroom, you are using it, even if you only go in to wash your hands.
So I’m pretty sure that i saw Senator Manchin in the Charlotte airport two Fridays ago. I thought “that man looks like Joe Manchin” and then realized he was walking from the gate for a flight to Charleston, West Virginia to the bathroom. Should I have followed him into the bathroom and thanked him for standing tall! Inquiring minds want to know
please! it IS 48 against 2... BECAUSE
Only Democrat (and independents that caucus with democrats) votes Count, because
Only Democrat (and independents that caucus with democrats) are Humans!!
Republicans are Infidels! THEY don't Even Believe in Slavery!!
Did she "use" the restroom? Fortunately they didn't film it in the most grotesque way possible, but the context certainly suggests she did - there's a flush, and then the Senator emerges from the stall and washes her hands. To which I say, wow, she's one cool customer!
And yet if you voice your opinion at a school board meeting you might be labeled a domestic terrorist….
It has nothing to do with women. In fact women have more protection in restrooms than men. This is a fun blog to read but the needle skips in the same place every time.
It's not 2 against 48 but 52 against 28
Sorry for the typo — 28 for 48 (at one spot). I've fixed it.
plainly inappropriate and unacceptable
Wow, that is an extremely strong condemnation!
Sanders has always been a socialist looney (and maybe communist--remember his getaway with his new wife to the USSR and praise of the Soviet Union in 1988?). I am surprised he has gotten such an uncriticized ride from smart people like Glenn Greenwald and Tulsi Gabbard. I suppose it is his anti-war positions that gains their support.
He has strange ideas about what is mine and what is his. He'd make us all poorer claiming it was fairer that way. As a famous American once observed (it was one of the few smart things he ever said), life is not fair.
I hope their abandonment of decency is widely noted, as Biden’s indecent exit from Afghanistan is tarring his presidency. The touted “return to normal” has turned into a horrifying trend of abnormal behavior and abandonment of values: purposely evacuating random unvetted foreigners while stranding 1000 Americans in a hostile land along with 10,000 nationals who helped us, no respect for a woman’s privacy while replacing the word “woman” in every official communication with “persons with vaginas” (stunning reductionism there eh?), freezing parents out of education and labeling their authentic desire for positive change in schools “terrorism” while blessing actual terrorists with billions in equipment “foreign aid” and safe passage into the Red States on BidenHarris BusLines. The disarray and desperation is too much to list in one place.
But the image of a transactivist chasing a US Senator into a stall should shame these people. Yet it doesn’t. They’re shameless.
Remember the good old days when Obama would announce, “That’s not who we are!” Where’s that guy now?
1. It was a stunt meant to be outrageous in order to get into the news.
2. If women can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
3. I have no idea here who has what underlying idea about what. All I've seen is the outrage that both sides wanted, whatever the two sides are.
4. I agree with Biden.
It's the new math ("2 vs 48.....)!! Just like spending $3.5T costs $0!!!!
As to Sinema, the video I saw showed her being persued into the ladies' room, going into a stall, remaining there for a few minutes. The sound of the toilet flushing was heard, followed by the senator's emerging and washing her hands, the whole time being harangued by a woman called "Blanca"--oh, the irony!--who said she was undocumented but deserving of the largess of the USA.
As a reminder, Bernie Sanders is NOT a Democrat but he wants to tell real Democrats how to vote.
It's the new math (2 vs 48.....)! Just like spending $3.5T costs $0!!!
It's not 2 against 48 but 52 against 48.
One of the consistent and enduring Progressive lies is they have overwhelming support and are only thwarted by a tiny minority.
“Everyone wants this” is their rallying cry.
Sanders withheld his name from a joint statement declaring protesters who followed Sinema into a bathroom — and filmed her while using the restroom — as "plainly inappropriate and unacceptable."
A Numba 2 cannot be allowed to defeat what 48 senators and 210 House members want.
Sanders apparently believes that the 50 GOP Senators are NPCs.
I love it when the authoritarian Sanders comes out. I'm sure he would love nothing better then everyone obeying the diktats from the Politburo regarding the already-approved 5-year plan.
The Mexican (2001) a guy kidnaps Julia Roberts and she needs to pee; guy accompanies her to the restroom, and she can't pee with a guy standing outside the stall. A standoff. Soon he has to pee and walks into the adjacent stall and you hear them both peeing.
I haven't watched it again so apparently it's not a favorite movie but that was a nice scene.
Bernie Sanders also wrote an editorial claiming women could get cancer if they didn’t have enough orgasms, and another about his belief that women enjoy rape fantasies.
So this bathroom thing may just be utterly mystifying to him.
Some one should follow Bernie into the restroom and film him while he’s taking a piss.
The Dems are fucking insane.
Bernie Sanders comes across as a sincere guy with massive blind spots (also AOC et al). Recount the Russian Civil War leading to the USSR (1918).
https://www.britannica.com/event/Russian-Civil-War
Mr. Sanders does not instigate violence, but his attitude allows those willing and able to rationalize genocide to flourish. If he doesn't die of natural causes first, his own followers would eventually come for him with an icepick.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Leon-Trotsky
The US mainstream left was fully aware of such risks in 1993 upon the dedication of the Holocaust Memorial Museum. Many thought this was not needed in the U.S. -- let alone downtown Washington D.C. -- but history reveals that it was needed.
https://www.ushmm.org/information/about-the-museum
Usually the democrats find mail-in votes in close cases so that one or two senators can't block them.
""but it happens to everybody."
Let's look at the things that Democrats/Progressives think are AOK because it's just part of the process and it happens to everyone. Plus- you deserve it.
>Doxing you and your family at home.
>Arriving at your house with bullhorns, signs, cowbells, shouting, and approaching/knocking on your home door and windows.
>Following you into a bathroom to 'corner' you and thinking this will get you to change your mind.
>Setting 3-4 city blocks of your city on fire. Destroying businesses, homes.
>Looting businesses because nothing says 'change your mind' like taking Louis Vuitton purses by the armful.
>Throwing paintballs at you, or just spraying you with pepper spray- to get you to change your mind.
>Cold-cocking you just for being.
>Killing you.
All of these things- and more- have been perpetrated on the American people over just the past 16 months by our loving, tolerant, regressive minds on the left.
But the most important thing is just to listen to Bernie Sanders. Take them (the Left) at their word. They tell you exactly who they are and what they want. To Bernie (and this is no surprise to any breathing adult), Bernie sees the Constitution and our political form as rather inconvenient. The Dems are working overtime to remove voter ID, allow national mail ballots- sent to millions of people, no matter their proper citizenship or proper registration, and to allow for ballot harvesting. How you gonna control...er...count all those mailed ballots without harvesting?
The Left wants a majority rule- Democracy as they know it- as long as they can fix the parameters to insure who's got the majority (i.e. California, New York). And as we all know, Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what's for dinner.
Umm, that's 52 senators, Bernie. I agree, if there were only 50 senators, then 2 of them should not/would not be able to override the other 48. But 48 of 100 doesn't comprise a majority, let alone a strong one. Is he using Socialist math?
“Was Sinema filmed using the toilet? I thought she'd retreated into the space to get away, but find it hard to believe she'd use the toilet under this pressure, unless she had a physical emergency.”
Sinema is filmed as she goes into a stall, some time passes, she comes out of the stall, and goes to the sink to wash her hands. Are you suggesting that Sinema was engaged in a little theater? A woman stands in front of the stall and delivers her protest. It plays that Sinema is just going about her business as the protesters follow her around.
The protest and its filming were grossly inappropriate. Other women were also using the restroom and they also appear in the video.
This is a clear example of the left’s view of the primacy of their political outcomes over even a modicum of civility. Everything is political, even human biological needs. How anyone can believe that they care about actual people and not just their concept of what people should be is beyond me. This is precisely why socialism/communism/progressivism is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths of innocent people in the 20th century. Those people just didn’t fit their image of what people should be. Perhaps they wanted privacy in the bathroom?
"It's not 2 against 48 but 52 against 48"
Ann - you don't understand Marxist-Leninist's. They know they are right. They know what's best for everyone. They despise democracy. Why is there a need for democracy?
Remember they want to eliminate the market economy. They will plan the economy - both supply and demand. They will outlaw speculation. They can plan and organize all of this. They have truly breathtaking arrogance and self-confidence.
In 2016 a lot of speculative chatter would have been unnecessary if someone with a camera had followed Hillary Clinton into the bathroom during the televised debate.
Biology Doesn't Write Laws: Hillary Clinton's Bathroom Break Wasn't As Trivial As Some Might Like to Think
I really feel sorry for women - first they are expected to accept trans sharing their restrooms, now it is OK to record sounds and images.
Once again, Bernie proves that to be a Socialist you must have only a passing acquaintance with math.
Bernie Sanders is one of the most despicable senators of my lifetime. Everything about him is a lie. The only Senator I ever held in greater contempt is now at 1600 Pennslyvania Avenue.
Since my last post gave no proof of my claim that everything about Bernie Sanders is a lie, I’ll mention one: Mr. Socialist owns three expensive homes. I can’t tell you how much this fact grates on me.
"I'd say even if it "happens to everybody," it wouldn't be right to slough it off as "part of the process.""
You'd say that, and it wouldn't be right, and I appreciate your sentiments--but all that is irrelevant as long as people like you keep voting for Dems. Unless you and yours make up your mind to oppose them consistently, to tell them what is "right" while you can, we'll get more and more.
Wow, Bernie's totalitarian commie mask slips.
Does he see this bill as maybe the last chance during his lifetime to transform the country?
Progressives simply do not think that anyone who disagrees with them is a legitimate voice, and therefore the votes of Republican Senators don't count. Result: 48-2. This is really how they think; they have no time for a constitutional republic.
I think so, yes. I saw pictures of her exiting a cubicle and washing her hands. Why isn't this a big deal? Is it OK, now, for women to be harassed if they are guilty of wrongthink? I don't see anything pushback from leftist women commentators on this. So, I assume that they really don't care about harassment, only if it's done by the wrong people.
I got a mailshot via TNR yesterday from Physicians for Human Rights PHR calling on the Federation of State Medical Boards to double down on its urging of member boards to revoke the licenses of physicians who knowingly spread misinformation about the coronavirus and what the science says about vaccines and wearing masks. One of their Board members, their vice chair, Deborah Ascheim, tweeted in support of Eric Topols demand in a letter to Steven Hahn, in respect of vaccines that he will not, under any condition, authorize a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine approval before the full Phase 3 completion and read-out of a program.
This is the vaccine program that has, in the UK, saved around 125,000 lives. Topol wanted the FDA to take its time. PHR wants doctors to be stripped of their licences citing science. The hypocrisy is nauseating. And they talk about science and masks as if the experience in Europe (UK, Denmark, etc) is irrelevant. No mask mandates in UK since mid July. Children don't wear masks in class. But PHR wants doctors to lose their jobs if they agree with European countries. Where's the science?
And PHR has Richard Horton, Editor of the Lancet, on its Board. The same Lancet that published the wrong paper on MMR and the paper poo-poohing the lab leak theory of Covid 19 without disclosing the conflicts of interest around the organiser of the paper.
I'm sorry I'm so upset by this, but an organisation called Physicians for Human Rights calling for doctors to lose their jobs is somehow far more nauseating than when politicians do this.
She washed her hands after emerging from the bathroom stall.
He is a twit.
I find it interesting, Althouse, as you criticize Biden's weak and half-hearted condemnation of the Sinema protesters; because we have the recent the recent example of Mitt Romney.
(I agree with you; the Biden statement was reprehensibly weak.)
Senator Romney, in the heat of the Trimp-impeachment battle, was harassed and harangued in an airport. The video went viral. Viral enough, that Donald Trump saw it, and instead of condemning the people who were so rude and personally threatening to Romney, Trump congratulated them. We forget about it, because Trump did that in his infamous January 6 insurrection speech at the Ellipse:
https://www.tampabay.com/news/breaking-news/2021/01/06/ill-never-concede-trump-speech-incites-mob-at-capitol/
By the way; the jackasses who were yelling at Romney in the airport and on the plane have been put on a no-fly list:
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/passengers-who-harassed-romney-at-slc-airport-placed-on-no-fly-list
Since the Biden agenda is now the Bernie agenda, I can understand why Bernie is upset. Biden "The Moderate" became Bernie once the "election" was settled.
Just above, I wrote that Romney was harassed by Trumpists "in the heat of the Trimp [sic; my typo]-impeachment battle..."
Clarification/correction:
It was post-impeachment #1, and pre-impeachment #2. And in fact, it was more in the heat of the electoral college vote certification than impeachment. Romney was flying back to DC from SLC for the January 6 session, when he was harassed.
Wow someone yelled at Romney in public! The horror. Where was the condemnation of “protesters” chasing Trump staff out of restaurants, or of the creeps chasing Rand Paul and his wife in the streets by other pretend lifelong Republican types? Fuck your concern troll act.
Doesn't this also deserve your Civility Bullshit tag?
Chuck(D) loves him some stomping of free speech.
@Althouse, +1 to Sebastian’s comment at 8:28
The perps who filmed Sinema (and others) in the restroom committed a class 5 felony under Arizona law, which makes it a crime to record or film anyone peeing in a restroom. The statute, as I read it, covers filming someone going into a stall and using the toilet. It doesn’t require that the camera film inside the stall. The purpose of the statute is, inter alia, to protect people against public humiliation and shame, which was the very point of the film posted by the perps in this case. My only question is, why isn’t the local prosecutor on this case? Actually, that’s a rhetorical question.
Socialists do common core math. 52 Senators voted no. 48 voted yes. 52 is greater than 48. No wonder why Progressives are always pissed off. They can't count.
Ahhh Chuck, still marinating in his "insurrection" fantasies and trying to tease out non-existent parallels with Trump.
1. Even the FBI admits there was no "insurrection" at the Capitol on Jan 6. Those, like Chuck, who continue to use the term are just as loony as the demented Democrat in the White House;
2. We're not discussing the harassment of Sen Sinema at the airport, which would be THE EXACT PARALLEL to the righteous harassment of traitor Romney at the airport;
3. Chuck is defending the Batshit Crazy Independent Commie from Vermont, which means that Chuck is therefore defending the anti-woman behavior of an illegal immigrant fascist who is paid for by a Nazi collaborator and international felon trying to destroy the US.
This, all taken together, tells you a lot about Chuckie.
and another about his belief that women enjoy rape fantasies.
If they don't, explain Harlequin Romance and all of the other bodice rippers.
Mr. Socialist owns three expensive homes
TBF, one of the places in Vermont is just a dacha.
Bernie is not only stupid, he’s also crazy.
Pee on the protester. Problem solved.
Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...
Chuck(D) loves him some stomping of free speech.
No, I've got a pretty high, nearly Althousian-level tolerance for free speech. I'm just not accepting the notion that people can be harassed in restrooms or in secured, limited-space places like airport gates or on airliners. I also don't accept physically threatening language, or even physical threats aimed at school board members in the name of protesting Mask- or Vaccine/Testing mandates.
Bernie Sanders is one of two Senators from Vermont--with a total population of ~650,000 people. As such he represents 325,000 people. There are probably 50 cities in the United States with populations greater than 325,000. He's got some crust in stating what "Senators" of any stripe can be allowed to do. He represents fewer people then a lot of city mayors.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
"Remember the good old days when Obama would announce, “That’s not who we are!” "
I remember seeing a report of the window breakers in downtown Madison, followed by a sympathetic non-breaker, non-apologizing by saying 'This is not who we are.' I didn't believe it then, and my opinion hasn't changed. I looked for a link but I suspect it's been memory holed.
"Where’s that guy now?"
The Left has dropped all pretense. They revel in their disrespect.
In socialist paradises, the nomenklatura are required to own multiple mansions. It's to reward them for the bang-up job they do suppressing the kulaks and the enemies of the state. So, Bernie's three houses are just the minimum he needs. Given the chance, via insider trading, he'd own six house. It' his due. Just ask him.
I also don't accept physically threatening language, or even physical threats aimed at school board members in the name of protesting Mask- or Vaccine/Testing mandates.
"Chuck"'s inner fascist coming out. Parents are "Domestic terrorists" to "Chuck" and Garland's son in law's CRT business is sacred.
Trump shifted and expanded the Overtone Windrow and the dims are simply utilizing the open space.
TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...
Ahhh Chuck, still marinating in his "insurrection" fantasies and trying to tease out non-existent parallels with Trump.
1. Even the FBI admits there was no "insurrection" at the Capitol on Jan 6. Those, like Chuck, who continue to use the term are just as loony as the demented Democrat in the White House;
2. We're not discussing the harassment of Sen Sinema at the airport, which would be THE EXACT PARALLEL to the righteous harassment of traitor Romney at the airport;
3. Chuck is defending the Batshit Crazy Independent Commie from Vermont, which means that Chuck is therefore defending the anti-woman behavior of an illegal immigrant fascist who is paid for by a Nazi collaborator and international felon trying to destroy the US.
This, all taken together, tells you a lot about Chuckie.
1. I use the term "insurrectionist" because it seems to me to be a good, abbreviated description for what happened. Also, because I know that it really bothers people like you.
2. Huh? We're discussing the harassment of Sen. Sinema in a public restroom on the campus of Arizona State, right? (Do I have that right? I never checked, because it seems so totally beside the point.) Was there also some harassment of Sinema at an airport? Does it make a difference, whether invasive harassment occurs at an airport, or in a public restroom in a university building?
3. Your #3 is so completely deranged, I don't even know what you are talking about. I'm not sure that I have ever mentioned Senator Bernie Sanders in any Althouse blog comment. If I did, I expect that I was commenting on how much I hoped that Sanders would not get the nomination, because (a) I disagree with him on almost everything, and (b) I'd be terribly afraid that he could not beat Trump.
4. BONUS POINT! I just wanted to use this comment to further stomp on what a psychotically cruel, loutish dickhead Donald Trump is. When Trump was doing his insurrection speech on January 6, his exact quote after seeing the viral video of Senator Romney being harassed at the Salt Lake City airport was, "I wonder if he enjoyed his flight in."
So, compare. President Biden sees Senator Sinema being harassed by people who aren't exactly Biden supporters, and says in a serious tone, “I don’t think they’re appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody...” Understanding that that riffing was far too equivocal to meet the moment, Biden comms officials then went further with unequivocal condemnations. End point being; Biden condemns that harassment.
Meanwhile, then-President Trump sees Senator Romney harassed by people who are explicitly Trump supporters and laughingly says at a rally, "I wonder if he enjoyed his flight in."
That's it. That's the comparison. It's as pure, as crystalline a comparison as I can imagine. Biden stumbled a bit in expressing a genuine and appropriate concern. While Trump's expression was nothing less than sociopathic bile.
It is possible that we are not all that far from the federal government just ignoring the requirement that a majority in both houses of Congress vote yea for a bill in order for it to pass.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
Wow someone yelled at Romney in public! The horror. Where was the condemnation of “protesters” chasing Trump staff out of restaurants, or of the creeps chasing Rand Paul and his wife in the streets by other pretend lifelong Republican types? Fuck your concern troll act.
Were there incidents of Trump-resistance protesters doing the same sort of harassment? This NPR story is imho a rather good summary of the only three incidents I know about:
A) Sarah Huckabee Sanders being politely refused service at the Red Hen restaurant;
B) Secretary Kirstjen Neilsen being chanted at while in a restaurant (which I would condemn; I had a tiny amount of respect for the Secretary when she showed a tiny bit of honesty over the "shithole countries" meeting).
C) Stephen Miller being yelled at in a DC restaurant. As astonishing proof of my adherence to my personal-protection-over-free-speech principles, I would condemn such harassment, even if it were Stephen Miller.
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/23/622882115/sarah-sanders-joins-list-of-top-trump-aides-confronted-at-restaurants
I don't remember a single comment from Chuck when Rand Paul was attacked in his own yard by a Bernie supporter. Not a single one . Care to illuminate us, Chuck, where you condemned that act of violence? A link to any comment you wrote at the time here will suffice.
Chuck, did you condemn it at the time? Knowing your dishonesty, I assume you didn't. You now claim that you would have condemned it, but I don't believe you- you are a known liar. So, prove me wrong- link me to a comment where you condemned such behavior that is contemporaneous with the acts themselves rather than some self-serving claim being offered in retrospect.
At first I was angry about this, but I realized per Althouse, this could get women out of politics.
So, bring on the cameras baby!
I wonder how many of the sainted Moderates and Independents have decided that the D's are complete frauds and fakes when it comes to civility or "norms"? I'm beginning to wonder who exactly is buying it, when the Regime media is OUTRAGED at Trump or some R for being "uncivil" or supporting "insurrectionists" when they just "whatever" when someone they dislike gets threatened or attacked.
But then you have the Center-right, who don't really care what happens as long as they can show they are "Gentlemen and Ladies". Unlike those Lefties. So, wait for the true outrage from the Center-right next time some leftist is treated poorly. "that's not who we are!" is already being written on Mitt Romney's telepromter.
Chuck said...
Were there incidents of Trump-resistance protesters doing the same sort of harassment? This NPR story is imho a rather good summary of the only three incidents I know about:
A) Sarah Huckabee Sanders being politely refused service at the Red Hen restaurant;
You do not "politely refuse service" to someone for political reasons.
Or shall we say that the Jim Crow laws caused people to "politely refuse service" to black people who wanted to sit at teh lunch counter?
B) Secretary Kirstjen Neilsen being chanted at while in a restaurant (which I would condemn; I had a tiny amount of respect for the Secretary when she showed a tiny bit of honesty over the "shithole countries" meeting).
C) Stephen Miller being yelled at in a DC restaurant. As astonishing proof of my adherence to my personal-protection-over-free-speech principles, I would condemn such harassment, even if it were Stephen Miller.
"Would". not "did at the time", but "he, now that it might happen to my people, I would condemn it"
FOAD Chuck
As for the Filibuster, Good God are the Democrats/Leftists still playing that game? How many fucking times have they flipped and flopped on it? everytime they're the minority - the Senate Filibuster is the "Bulwark of the Republic". And when they're the majority - they screech about "A few senators blocking the will of the American People".
What clowns.
The problem is that Sinema isn't taking this seriously, so I have a hard time being bothered on her behalf,
If she were taking this seriously, she'd tell the Democrat leadership that they either go full throttle against the people harassing her, or else she switches her Party to "Independent" (just like Bernie!), and starts caucusing with Republicans.
There's no way the Biden* Admin can handle investigations by Senate Republicans with subpoena power, so they'd have to call off teh attacks on Sinema.
Until she's willing to strike back at her abusers, she's going to continue to get abused.
Which is sad. But it's much sadder watching it happen to someone who doesn't have the ability to strike back
Senator Sanders sounds like a toddler in the middle of a loaded-diaper-tantrum. It's pathetic but entertaining. "48 Senators shouldn't be allowed to subvert the will of 52". Suck on that commie.
If it were 1912 when there were only 47 states - then 48 votes would be a winner. Was Bernie a senator back then? Or was it just Joe? Maybe just missing the old days.
Chuck conveniently forget Senator McConnell and his wife, Elaine Chao who was I believe Transportation secretary being attacked at a restaurant by Chuck's close personal friends.
He didn't even address the point, which was he supported all of those assaults by the left on Republicans and Trump staffers... he just gleefully added more to the list.
Has he even said a word, ever, about James Hodkinson, who tried to kill numerous Republican congressmen and women at a baseball game?
This action against Sinema, which Chuck is busy defending here, is part and partial of the left's usual behavior. He says "But look at how Romney was treated!" And then gloats that those who only demanded accountability from Romney are on the "no-fly list" while zero--ZERO!-- has happened to any leftist, ever, for physically attacking a Republican. Hodkinson is dead solely because a brave police officer killed him. If not, I'm sure Chuck would be here demanding his release or celebrating it.
Just like nothing will happen to these people who attacked Sinema.
Because as Chuck well knows, laws don't apply to Democrats. Right?
Chuck said...
"Were there incidents of Trump-resistance protesters doing the same sort of harassment? This NPR story is imho a rather good summary of the only three incidents I know about:"
What else do you see down in that hole in the sand?
Setting that aside, and the fact that you think NPR is a trustworthy source, why do you need more than three?
Also: "I would condemn..." In hindsight, you can do everything perfectly!
Yancy Ward said:
"It is possible that we are not all that far from the federal government just ignoring the requirement that a majority in both houses of Congress vote yea for a bill in order for it to pass."
Why not. Trump and his constitutional scholar buddy John Eastman thought that Pence should ignore the electoral vote in the so-called "disputed" states.
"POINT! I just wanted to use this comment to further stomp on what a psychotically cruel, loutish dickhead Donald Trump is."
That, in a nutshell, is the problem. Instead of just condemning the intrusion of the Senator's personal space, you decided to (yet again) remind people about Orange the Clown. Guess what, Biden and the Democrats are the ones actually in charge in Washington. Their words and actions actually effect people's lives. By bringing up Trump, you are making what happened to the Senator seem less onerous than it is. The past is the past, it's the shitty present we have to deal with.
By the way; the jackasses who were yelling at Romney in the airport and on the plane have been put on a no-fly list:
The jackasses yelling at Sinema are not on the have permission to be in the country list.
Remember the good old days when Obama would announce, “That’s not who we are!”
When they went #2, Sinema went #1.
I could relate a story about me in a Minneapolis Airport in the mid -1990's.
I was sitting in a stall, when next to me, a person entered, and gave the "two taps".
I won't say it was a Senator, but the wingtips and pinstripe pants sure looked expensive.
jim5301 said...
Why not. Trump and his constitutional scholar buddy John Eastman thought that Pence should ignore the electoral vote in the so-called "disputed" states.
So, Jim, what's your allowed remedy for when Democrat "vote counters" steal an election? If your answer is "there is no allowed remedy", then you can take your whine and FOAD
Who's doing the "allowing"?
Given his advanced age and his unrepentant Marxism, Bernie probably thinks it's Stalin.
Maybe Brezhnev.
Chuck said...
No, I've got a pretty high, nearly Althousian-level tolerance for free speech. I'm just not accepting the notion that people can be harassed in restrooms or in secured, limited-space places like airport gates or on airliners
So, leftists going to people homes to "protest": ok
Or, to sum up more clearly: leftists doing anything to anybody: Perfectly fine
Rightists doing anything to anybody: Wrong
Chuck, let us know when you've actually done something against the people harassing KS, like called for them to lose because of their disgraceful behavior. Until then, you've got nothing
Maybe “the process” should change? We really need to clean house on just about every level of government, and elect an entirely new group. I mean how could it possibly be any worse?
Did this page suddenly lose some posted comments?
I cannot see a couple of mine; one of which contained this .url:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6329595&postID=4912567555741129322
That is the link to the Althouse comments page when she blogged the Sarah Huckabee Sanders/Red Hen restaurant kefuffle. And I posted the comment that I agreed with Althouse, and that we NeverTrump Republicans weren't pulling those kinds of stunts.
I for one am pleased that LLR Chuck has formally come clean on his left wing democratical political orientation.
Chuck's 6 straight years of 100% alignment with all things democratical made that perfectly clear long ago of course, but transparency is always appreciated.
What a surprise that the Democrats are using the No-Fly List as a way to punish their political enemies. Who would have thunk it.
Do you guys thinks she's hot?
It is noteworthy that LLR Chuck, during a gin and tonic soaked weekend posting bender, wanted the entire Trump WH Communications shop dragged before a Washington DC Grand Jury to answer questions relating to........(wait for it) .....(wait for it) .....Sarah Huckabee Sanders baking......pecan pies!
LOL!
Althousians will recall LLR Chuck called Sarah Sanders a bald-faced liar for claiming to have baked pecan pies.
Apparently, and to this very day as LLR Chuck has never retracted his insane accusation, our pro-marxist LLR Chuck still believes, passionately, Sarah Sanders cannot bake pecan pies.
This LLR Chuck meltdown literally lasted for days!
Good times, good times.
There’s a book detailing the history of a hippie commune in Vermont called We Are As Gods, by Kate Daloz. One of the episodes in that book describes how a young Bernie Sanders joined their commune in 1971, but they had to kick him out because he didn’t want to do his share of the chores — all he wanted to do was talk politics.
He apparently hasn’t changed.
(The book is available via the Althouse Amazon portal.)
IMAO, the most important thing about Bernie's statement is the part that isn't there.
Sanders refers to the Democrats as "people." The Republicans don't make the cut.
The history of the 20th Century was full of totalitarian political movements describing their political opponents as non-people, and then attempting to exterminate them. People get respect, but "vermin," "insects," "rats," etc. get death.
Add to this his refusal to condemn the harassers because the statement didn't condemn Sinema's politics, and he has destroyed the considerable respect I had for him as an honest man whom I disagreed with politically. This is totalitarianism.
Wow. It's just the rough and tumble of politics! Nice way to insinuate that maybe women don't belong in politics. I'd say even if it "happens to everybody," it wouldn't be right to slough it off as "part of the process."
Now that's a diabolically clever way to demonstrate that calls for civility are always bullshit.
Comrade Bernie is no doubt nostalgic for the good ole days when the Politburo would just issue the orders and things would get done chop-chop!
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