November 2, 2016

"When I said that in September that the enthusiasm level for African-Americans as far as Hillary Clinton's campaign was not there, I was right."

"They were wrong. They didn't want anyone to know they were in panic mode. I want everyone to know I was right. If they don't want to admit they were in panic mode they should admit it now. I said then it wasn't too late. It is too late now."/"There is nothing she can do?"/"Oh, no. It's over now as far as the African-American community is concerned. She had time back then to get into the community and get people out to vote. Now, you know, the numbers are the numbers. There's nothing she can do now. As far as bringing in all of the surrogates, I said then that wasn't going to get the African-American community to the polls. It didn't work. The numbers are the numbers...."

Said Leslie Wimes, the president of the Democratic African-American women's caucus.

56 comments:

Sydney said...

Hillary does have optics that say "rich white woman." I can see why she doesn't have the African American vote.

chickelit said...

Who are "all of the surrogates"?

David Hampton said...

Obama did nothing for the black community for 8 years other than set them up to shift blame from himself onto local law enforcement. Hillary promises more of the same as she courts white millennials and college students.

Brando said...

Anyone who thought Hillary would match Obama's numbers with black voters was delusional. The only question is by how much will she underperform with that group, and will that be enough for her to lose?

And surrogates only go so far--it's like a celebrity trying to sell you a car. You may like that celebrity, but you still have to want the car.

Bob Ellison said...

Democratic African-American women's caucus.

coupe said...

A lot of black people don't self-identify as "African-American".

They don't know what that is, past some political organizations identity. They are not hyphenated anything. They are Americans.

If you would ask a man if he was African dash American, he'd look at you like you were from mars. "You mean like half dash American?"

These hyphenated Americans need to get back on the boat.

Lyssa said...

Trump could have really capitalized on this, if he'd run his campaign in a controlled manner and made some real efforts. He has the talents. He could have changed things going forward for everyone. But he didn't. Another lost opportunity in this terrible year.

campy said...

Hillary doesn't have to worry about black voters. The black vote counters are for her.

Mick said...

Blacks will vote at unprecedented percentage for Trump--- 15-20%
Trump Landslide in the making.

1) more new Rep. registrations than Dem.
2) less votes for HRC than in 2012
3) She had to cheat to beat a 75 yr. old socialist.
4) ALL of Rust belt going to Trump
5) Trump got more Primary votes than any Rep. in history
6) 15-20% of Blacks for Trump
7) Rallies for Trump show exponentially more enthusiasm
8) MSM Polls over-sample Dems, under-sample Ind.
9) The Crooked Old Lady will win maybe 8 states (the hopelessly Communist ones)
10) Landslide Trump 60%--30%---10%

Ding Dong the Witch is dead.

Evidence of INTENT (which is not needed by the Federal Records Act if the action of removal of records exists)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/fbi-documents-hillary-aide-cheryl-mills-ordered-technicians-deleate-emails-bleachbit/

AprilApple said...

She does have the ultra wealthy black rapper vote.

AprilApple said...

Corporate musicians love her.

Mick said...

Lyssa said...
Trump could have really capitalized on this, if he'd run his campaign in a controlled manner and made some real efforts. He has the talents. He could have changed things going forward for everyone. But he didn't. Another lost opportunity in this terrible year.


Trump Landslide. What are you smokin?

Mick said...

The Crooked Old Lady will host a concert on 11/7 with JayZ--- king of misogynist lyrics.

David Begley said...

They wished up. They knew they were getting used. Nothing got better. Things got worse.

The Drill SGT said...

coupe said...
A lot of black people don't self-identify as "African-American".


Classic Example

Mick said...

Evidence of INTENT (which is not needed by the Federal Records Act if the action of removal of records exists)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/fbi-documents-hillary-aide-cheryl-mills-ordered-technicians-deleate-emails-bleachbit/


Wonder why the "law prof" doesn't talk about this. It is a BOMBSHELL. It's over.

William said...

She has to dramatize her bond with the black community. The next time she's at an event where the national anthem is played, she should take a knee. Many of her advisors have probably cautioned against it, saying that her inability to get back up after taking a knee would make her look weak and debilitated. Nonsense. That sturdy black home care attendant she travels with could help her to her feet. This would actually further help to dramatize her bond with the black community.

Brando said...

"The Crooked Old Lady will host a concert on 11/7 with JayZ--- king of misogynist lyrics."

Mick, can you explain what happened? You and the rest of the Stones had such a solid career for about fifteen years then something happened in the '80s and it just seems like you guys mail it in.

Lyssa said...

Mick said Trump Landslide. What are you smokin?

Your predictions around here have not exactly been the most reliable.

Brando said...

"he has to dramatize her bond with the black community."

Make no mistake--if her handlers convinced her that she could win black votes by doing her hair in cornrows, she'd do it.

sinz52 said...

Hillary's appeal is limited to just two parts of the Dem coalition: Feminists who support unlimited abortion rights, and policy wonks who admire Hillary's skills with spreadsheets and PowerPoint presentations.

For everyone else, including blacks, Hillary has a set of canned, homogenized, insincere talking-points and that's it.

Brando said...

"Your predictions around here have not exactly been the most reliable."

Cut him some slack, he's got all those royalty checks to sign from re-releases of "Exile on Main Street".

Curious George said...

James O'Keefe says his next bombshell will be showing the Hidabeast's campaign disparaging blacks. That's probably not going to help her in this area.

traditionalguy said...

This must be why Campaign Clinton is having all its Media Channels run funny hit pieces on Trump about his KKK supporters. The delay until now was in finding one who is not a a silly hired actor.They need those insane folks who scare you.

The Onion is more believable now than the MSM this week. Now that Trump has won, they seem willing to do sort of a drunken Banzai Charge to prove they were loyal to Empress Clinton.

wildswan said...

Real Clear Politics says black turnout is down 8% in early voting. Originally when all this began Hillary had to have Obama level turnout among blacks, youth and women to win according to Conventional Wisdom and she had to have Ohio. Now she doesn't need black turnout or Ohio according to Her Wisdom.

She has a special drink called the Rigger which will be featured throughout America if she wins: 2 oz. bourbon, a glass of any size. Put in whiskey, add water till glass is full, steal the customer's wallet and offer to pay for the drink.

Rick said...

they seem willing to do sort of a drunken Banzai Charge

Maybe someone will write a poem: The Charge of the Media Brigade.

cubanbob said...

Could it be possible that Mick might be right? Nah. I must be one of those type of people the LA Times is polling: voting for Trumpy (straight R ticket) but expecting The Hildabeast to win.

Mick said...

Lyssa said...
Mick said Trump Landslide. What are you smokin?

"Your predictions around here have not exactly been the most reliable".

Which predictions? Cheryl Mills caught explicitly saying destroy the records

John said...

"You mean like half dash American?"

I read that, saw half-dash American and heard, in my mind, "half-ass American". No, they are not half-ass Americans.

Has Crooked Hilary done any campaigning in black communities?

there has not been any I have seen.

She doesn't need to. She owns there votes. Right? Right? riiiiight?

Until she doesn't

John Henry

bagoh20 said...

"Blacks will vote at unprecedented percentage for Trump--- 15-20%"

And yet she'll still get 98% of it when the counts are done. 110% in some districts.

JPS said...

"I want everyone to know I was right."

'Cause that's really the important thing, isn't it?

Bad Lieutenant said...

If everyone who does not want Hillary Clinton to become president votes for Trump, she will lose.

JPS said...

bagoh20:

As I understand it, vote fraud is a Republican myth. In truth, Democrats only rig intraparty contests. When it comes to defeating Republicans, their integrity kicks in and would never allow any kind of chicanery.

damikesc said...

What in the hell does Hillary bring that would draw in black voters?

"I must wait in line so I can vote for a very entitled, old white woman!" Not seeing that happening.

Trump could have really capitalized on this, if he'd run his campaign in a controlled manner and made some real efforts. He has the talents. He could have changed things going forward for everyone. But he didn't. Another lost opportunity in this terrible year.

Makes Rand's poor performance doubly depressing, no? He could've made in-roads. Trump tried here and there, but nothing consistent or terribly effective. Hell, the LP could've made in-roads if they didn't nominate a dunce and a RINO.

This must be why Campaign Clinton is having all its Media Channels run funny hit pieces on Trump about his KKK supporters. The delay until now was in finding one who is not a a silly hired actor.They need those insane folks who scare you.

Don't know why your supporters are a problem. As Reagan said about the Log Cabin Republicans when somebody tried to make an issue: "They're endorsing me. I'm not endorsing them". You cannot control who votes for you. Rapists, in states where they might be allowed to regain the vote, will vote overwhelmingly for Hillary.

damikesc said...

Which predictions? Cheryl Mills caught explicitly saying destroy the records

She'll say she meant to dump them to the press. To make them public.

I doubt it also, but the wording allows that type of leeway.

Ugh, 4 years of having to parse every single word said by anybody in the Executive Branch.

Mike said...

Strange article. Seems to be some passive aggression towards HRC in the black community. The same site had another article, also accompanied by video from MSNBC, about how black voters are responding favorably to Trump's message in North Carolina (oh look, that state is trending toward Trump too!) and the quotes are eye-opening:

TRINA [African-American voter]: Well, I think Trump is reaching out all citizens including African-Americans, he's trying to address a problem. It should not be a problem if you address there is something wrong and you got a plan that wants to help people. That's what a president should do for us, reaching out to try to help people and addressing problems that's going on in our country.

SOBOROFF [MSNBC reporter]: Some of the criticisms have been -- because he'll often say: 'what do you have to lose?' speaking directly to African-Americans, what do you think about that criticism?

GLORIA: My word to all black Americans, one thing I would like to say is: Let's not be deceived. Look at the record, look at the promises that have been made over the past from the Democratic party. We are not voting for a party. We are voting for a man who's been standing by all citizens. He loves America. That's what I love about him. We need somebody that loves America. And he also loves all people. All people.

So he reached out, went to Black churches, walked the neighborhoods in Flint and other towns. She relied on a voting bloc that doesn't like her or see anything special in "the first woman" line of BS.

[added link to video]

Michael The Magnificent said...

She'll say she meant to dump them to the press. To make them public.

March 2, 2015 - NYT releases an article showing that Hillary used a personal email server in violation of State Department rules

March 2, 2015 - Cheryl Mills writes to John Podesta: "On another matter....and not to sound like Lanny, but we are going to have to dump all those emails so better to do so sooner than later"

March 4, 2015 - Hillary receives subpoena from House Select Committee on Benghazi instructing her to preserve and deliver all emails from her personal servers

March 25, 2015 - Undisclosed PRN Staff Member has a conference call with “President Clinton’s Staff”

March 25 - 31, 2015 – Undisclosed PRN Staff Member has “oh shit” moment and realizes he forgot to wipe Hillary’s email archive from the PRN server back in December, which he promptly does using BleachBit despite later admitting he "was aware of the existence of the preservation request and the fact that it meant he should not disturb Clinton's e-mail data on the PRN server."

June 2016 - FBI discovers that Undisclosed PRN Staff Member forgot to erase 940 emails from the gmail account he created to help with the PRN server upload

Seems everyone took the word "dump" to mean delete, erase, bleachbit. The emails most certainly were deleted and not dumped to the press. You are free to listen to what she says now, but I'm more interested in looking at what she did then.

Mike said...

Key text emphasized:

GLORIA: My word to all black Americans, one thing I would like to say is: Let's not be deceived. Look at the record, look at the promises that have been made over the past from the Democratic party. We are not voting for a party. We are voting for a man who's been standing by all citizens. He loves America. That's what I love about him. We need somebody that loves America. And he also loves all people. All people.

Kristian Holvoet said...

Maybe someone will write a poem: The Charge of the Media Brigade.

"Forward, the Media Brigade!"
Was there a persyn dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

Cath said...

William @ 8:28 - too funny!!!!

traditionalguy said...

Empress Clinton never had sex with those millions of petro-dollar Arab donors. Huma is not an Arab.

Peter said...

"We are not voting for a party. We are voting for a man"

Well, lots of luck with that. Very few Democrats have much enthusiasm for Clinton (and those few who do would vote for any female candidate), and it may well be that there's even less enthusiasm for Clinton among African-Americans. And, yes, Trump has made some outreach to African-American communities (although the media has provided little coverage of that, and what little they've provided has mostly been hostile).

Nonetheless, those who vote will mostly vote Democratic out of habit: I'd expect any effect would be on turnout, not percentages.

Mike said...

Interesting though that the party of "The Party above all else" is now suffering from disaffection of their most reliable racial bloc. Very interesting.

Achilles said...

A detailed breakdown of why the polls in Virginia are wrong.

Trump is going to get more legal votes in Virginia. The only question is how much fraud will they try to commit.

Michael The Magnificent said...

I forgot to add:

March 2, 2015 Cheryl Mills writes to John Podesta: "On another matter....and not to sound like Lanny, but we are going to have to dump all those emails so better to do so sooner than later"

That's the same day the NYT first published an article about Hillary's private email server.

eric said...

Let's hope turn out is a lot lower than polls predicted and Mick turns out to be right.

Move your money somewhere safe until the market finishes panicking.

Howard said...

Eligible African American Voters who don't vote: more Black Lives that Matter to Trumpsters

damikesc said...

Seems everyone took the word "dump" to mean delete, erase, bleachbit. The emails most certainly were deleted and not dumped to the press. You are free to listen to what she says now, but I'm more interested in looking at what she did then.

I have no doubt she meant to erase, either.

HOWEVER, in an investigation, her wording gives her that wiggle room.

Recognizing it exists and how it'll be used isn't the same as believing it.

n.n said...

[Class] diversity.

Clyde said...

Hillary was never going to get as many black votes as Obama. In the last two presidential elections, black folks knew that they had to get out there and support the black candidate, or they would be seen as (and felt like) a traitor to their race, to all of their forebears who had suffered through slavery, segregation and discrimination. Obama didn't do diddly-squat for most of them beyond giving them warm, fuzzy feelings, and in fact many black people are worse off than they were eight years ago. Hillary won't do any more for them than Obama did, and won't give them warm fuzzies, either. They know that.

EMD said...

The Charge of the Media Brigade.

The Charge of the Light-Thinking Brigade.

Yancey Ward said...

Achilles,

I have long suspected that the demographics of the 2008 and 2012 elections were being used to bias the state polls everywhere, but the effect is going to be largest where the African-American population is highest, most notably in Virginia and North Carolina- and remember, Obama lost North Carolina in 2012.

Again, I think Trump's most likely path to victory is through winning all the Romney states, then adding Ohio, Florida, and Virginia, then picking off either/and Iowa, Nevada, and New Hampshire.

The reason for picking Kaine was to firewall Virginia, but it is possible you will see a rerun of the 2014 election (and, by the way, the McAuliffe election in 2013). If I had to pick two states that are significantly underrating Trump's vote totals, it would be Virginia and North Carolina, with Florida not far behind.

Mac McConnell said...

Had Hillary's campaign meant "dump" to the press and they had, she would be on her way to Leavenworth as we post. She would be the equivalent to a born female Chelsea Elizabeth Manning.

mockturtle said...

The black people I know [I don't like the term 'African-American'] are overwhelmingly for Trump. They are younger for the most part. The older blacks seem more entrenched with the Dems, whoever the candidate.

Wilbur said...

Just some more anecdotal tidbits:

I know several black men, attorneys mostly, who have never considered voting for a Republican, who are voting for Trump. It's anti-Hillary; they recognize and dismiss her as the condescending, lying grifter she is. I listen to and chat with them and silently exult.

That "Ah ain't no ways tard, Ah've come too far" speech years ago is not forgotten. It really chafed their britches. As well it should have.

There's a good-sized, hand-painted sign in a yard on NW 12th Avenue when I drive through Liberty City on my way home: "Black vote for Trump. Trump = Jobs".

As Kent Dorfman exclaimed "Oh boy, this is gonna be great".

khesanh0802 said...

A week ago I saw a black woman who's is a coordinator for Trump in the black community. She said, with fire in her eyes, that there was going to be a big black vote for Trump that at the moment is silent, but will turn up at the polls. She said Trump's support of school choice alone was enough to get blacks to vote for him. We'll see!