August 29, 2016

What made me say "Oh! Interesting" in this new Trump ad.

"'Two Americas: Economy' is a 30-second spot that will run in Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire, Iowa, Nevada, Virginia and Colorado," says Politico pointing at this new Trump ad:



Did you catch what struck me? Let me clip it for you:



I'm thinking about Colin Kaepernick and the sudden intrusion of an old simmering issue: Why should black people love America?

118 comments:

damikesc said...

Because it's better than the shithole that sold your ancestors in the first place?

Brando said...

What's this Kaepernick crap? A millionaire paid to play football and be famous is ungrateful about this country? He can always try Canadian football. Otherwise, cut the crap. Our country isn't perfect but don't be an ingrate. There's a reason more people try getting in here than anywhere else.

David Begley said...

"Why should black people love America?"

Check out the political and economic conditions in Nigeria, Kenya, Zimbabwe et al.

For that matter check out Europe today for all of us white people.

chickelit said...

As the immortal Jimi Hendrix said at the Isle of Wight concert: "We'd like like it if you could stand up...for your country, and if you don't 'fuck 'ya'

dreams said...

Kaepernick's problem isn't with the USA and the flag, its his struggling and failing career, he is trying to compensate.

kevino said...

RE: "Why should black people love America?"
We elected and re-elected a black president, of course. ;^)

"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction."
-- Michelle Obama

Rick said...

It's fine he believes institutions should be defined only by their worst elements. It tells us something about him that he supports a group which advocates murdering police.

damikesc said...

He supports a group that murdered folks.

Gahrie said...

Why should black people love America?

Because no matter how bad their life in the U.S. is, it is better than most Black people anywhere else in the world.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

@dreams

With a 5-11 record he had to be worrying about being replaced. But now that would be politically difficult for the 49ers. Wonder if he thought it up himself or if it was his agent's idea.

dreams said...

"Why should black people love America?"

Why should they love the crooked Democrats? They should wise up and maybe some of them will.

damikesc said...

He was benched last year for sucking. I doubt this helps him...but likely gets him a gig as an ESPN analyst.

Sebastian said...

Those who can't throw, talk politics.

Why should America love black people who don't love America?

Tim said...

Kaepernick apparently just converted to Islam and has a new sharia-loving Muslim girlfriend. Not sure haow that will work with all his Xtian tats.

n.n said...

Why should Bill, Jane, Todd, Mary, etc. love America? If anything, individuals of European descent did not have black and Muslim slave masters to call home, or they didn't.

The dysfunctional convergence of class (e.g. race, sex, babies) warfare is imminent. I wonder how many people will join the class warriors to profit from progressive corruption.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Kaepernick just made himself very popular with the sort of people who call the NFL "sportsball".

rhhardin said...

Kill off a thousand regulations and the economy bounces back.

Wilbur said...

Kaepernick protesting against police brutality in Amerika? Ho hum. Seen it before. Why does anyone care what this individual thinks about anything?

He's about to be cut by the 49ers anyway. He'll be forgotten very soon thereafter, especially if he changes his name to some Muslim name. Good luck with the rest of your life, CK.

Big Mike said...

For a short period of time, back in 2012, pro quarterbacks who were a genuine threat to break a big run did well in the league. Then the pro defenses adjusted. Russell Wilson figured it out; Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III didn't. Griffin got his wake-up call but Kaepernick hasn't heard that call yet and according to ESPN gives him a quarterback rating of 47.1. If I were the 49ers GM I'd talk to the coaches about cutting him, depending on how much of his salary is guaranteed.

Johnny Sokko said...

Because one day they can be elected president of the most powerful country in the world.

Fernandinande said...

My heart goes out to all the oppressed multi-millionaires who play a stupid game for a living.

That goofball could live wherever he wants and he chooses to live in the US.

Chuck said...

The narrator of that Trump ad is, I'm quite certain, actor Bruce McGill who was "D-Day" in Animal House and Walter Hagen in The Legend of Bagger Vance.

If what we hear about Hollywood is true, this should end his career. But who knows; Clint Eastwood could be producing movies into his nineties.

Quaestor said...

Why should black people love America?

It would be perverse to not love Santa Claus.

Blacks have been coasting on slavery in the Old South (conveniently forgetting that the North and West fought a bloody war to end it) for far too long. The steam is running out on that engine quickly, which is why BLM was invented — to extort more freebies and set-asides from the rest of us who struggle to pay the taxes that the Democrats use to buy Black voter's loyalty.

Temujin said...

For the promise of America. The same reason people have been streaming here from all ends of the earth for over 200 years. The founders knew we were flawed at the start, full of our own evils and faults (slavery), but setting up a template hoping that future generations, if given the chance to be free, could get it right. Sorry to say, we have not gotten it yet.

Ours was the promise of a government based on individual rights- not collective rights. And it was based on a government that was LIMITED in its power and oversight. We lost that. We're now a nation of collectivists. We've given our documented powers as individuals back to the government in exchange for cheap promises. Those promises turn out to be not so, but we don't get those individual rights back once given up.

The promise of America was that individuals can, in a free society, with a free market, make their way as best as they can based on their efforts, abilities, creativity, and production. It worked for awhile. And it still can....or could. There are millions from all over the world who have made their way here. We have created more wealth and freed more people than any other nation in history. Yet, our own backyards are a disgrace.

The promise is still there. Its up to us to learn it, do it, keep it. Government is not going to take care of us. We have to- all of us. Trump is a flawed candidate in so many ways. But Hillary is the worst sort of collectivist/Oligarch. She is accountable to no one, and has the goal only of increasing her own personal wealth and power, and that of her family and friends- even at the risk of the security of this nation. Say what you will, but this is her history. The promise of America is greater than that. Some people, of all colors, have found it.

Comanche Voter said...

Well America--love it or leave it.

And Kaepernick can start by leaving the 49ers (or getting pushed out the door).

He should remember that it was White (or at least Polish) America who took him in and raised him after his black baby daddy ran off from his young mother.

Lyle Smith said...

People love America because it is their home and it is all we have. Donald Trump clearly understands this about all Americans of whatever background, hince the African-American family honoring their flag.

wholelottasplainin' said...

Wanna hear a good Polish joke?


"Did you hear about the guy who put cordovan on his white bucks?"

jimbino said...

"Why should black people love America?"

Because we relieve them of any and all obligation to visit the vaunted national parks and forests that they are part owners of?

Clayton Hennesey said...

Sorry that this is off topic, but people should really get the transcript of today's Diane Rehm show on the Alt-Right. Quite revealing.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

"Why should black people love America?"

It has been demonstrated that people don't really need to. Heck, some people didn't ever feel pride in this country until the current President was elected, and that's just fine.

traditionalguy said...

His timing is good. The America that once loved its independence from The Roman Empire's many knock off European Empires, and valued its Protestant Reformation birthed Rights to Freedom of religious Speech and Freedom of religious Worship is being trashed as we speak.

George Soros's International Nazi money and Saudi Oil money sponsored Muslim invasion and American capitalist investor's addiction to mega money made by using China's cheap labor has lead to the blowing of America's last Trump in this election.

Kapernick called the smart play.He supports the strong horse.

Tommy Duncan said...

Big Mike said: For a short period of time, back in 2012, pro quarterbacks who were a genuine threat to break a big run did well in the league. Then the pro defenses adjusted. Russell Wilson figured it out; Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III didn't.

Bingo! I would add that Russell Wilson has passing skills that Kaepernick and RG3 dream about. Once the league figured out how to defense running QB's, it became downright dangerous to be a running QB.

tim in vermont said...

Sorry that this is off topic, but people should really get the transcript of today's Diane Rehm show on the Alt-Right.

Yes, I am certain it was scrupulously fair and intellectually honest!

Original Mike said...

"The narrator of that Trump ad is, I'm quite certain, actor Bruce McGill who was "D-Day" in Animal House and Walter Hagen in The Legend of Bagger Vance."

He was God in Quantum Leap. Well, God's bartender actually.

Brando said...

"He was God in Quantum Leap. Well, God's bartender actually."

And don't forget he was the bailiff in My Cousin Vinny.

Brando said...

Kaepernick should be happy he lives in a country where people are more focused on his relative merits as a quarterback and less focused on his race. Though if he wants to focus more on race he'll find some willing racialist participants.

tim in vermont said...

Remember all of the pearl clutching over Brexit? How stupid the British voters were?

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3761506/400-000-new-jobs-Brexit-bonanza-goes-against-tide-Project-Fear.html

http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/704140/Brexit-means-faith-in-Germany-economy-SHATTERED-ifo-figures

Just remember that as these same experts tell you what a disaster Trump will be with such certainty.

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tomaig said...

Temujin: Very well put.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Indeed, why should he love this country? Why should he love anyone or anything? Does he?

Why should any of us love this country? Why should anyone love anyone or anything?

What is love?

Is CK black? From what I thought was his pic, he seemed, well, "swarthy."

Humperdink said...

Re: Kaepernick. Watched ESPN this AM and two black commentators were extolling the virtues of Kaepernick's new found courage. ESPN = Sports version of MSNBC.

Kaepernick doesn't realize he will soon join Michael Sam as the media's latest sacrificial lamb. NFL's multi-million, multi-year contratcs are not guaranteed.

Anglelyne said...

Why should black people love America?

Black people? I dunno. Black Americans? Because it's their country and their home.

People can love and admire countries other than their own, and some want to ditch their native lands and move somewhere else for a variety of reasons. For another variety of reasons, people can have a very problematic relation with their native land. But home is home, to which most people feel a deep attachment that goes far deeper than ideology, or the existence of injustice or material misfortune. Especially people whose roots go back centuries, as is the case for most American blacks. I bet even Reverend God Damn America loves America in that normal human way.

Humperdink said...

dreams said: "Kaepernick's problem isn't with the USA and the flag, its his struggling and failing career, he is trying to compensate."

Kaepernick's QB rating, last 4 years:
2102 98.3
2013 91,6
2014 86.4
2015 78.5
He's being oppressed by the opposing defenses.

mockturtle said...

Here's what I think is going on with Kaepernick: He is afraid he might get cut so he's doing this quasi-political stunt so that he can blame recrimination if he does. He lacks the character to embrace a cause other than his own. I bet his poor adoptive parents just cringe.

Jim said...

KP's squeeze is a pro-BLM activist. Some less than credible websites say he is converting to Muslim for her. In the immortal words of the telegram Frank Sinatra sent to Peter Bogdanovich when he heard PB's production of Cybil Shepherd's record, "what some guys will do for a broad."

Unknown said...

Who says black people don't already love their country? There are plenty of black people who died serving their country.

Bruce Hayden said...

The new Trump ad is decent. But maybe not as edgy as I would like. Not something that is going to get the Crooked Hillary campaign, or her sycophants Chuck and Unknown here, to squeal like little girls. Which probably means that they are trying to mainstream Trump a bit.

Unknown said...

There are plenty of white people who don't love their country, hence all the references to revolution/ insurrection by the white right, even here on Althouse.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

And don't forget he was the bailiff in My Cousin Vinny.

Actually, he was the sheriff. Last thing I saw him on he was playing a police detective in Rizzoli and Isles.

Unknown said...

Bruce,FYI, I'm a Sanders supporter, but I'm voting for Hillary because....Trump.

Humperdink said...

Captain Oblivious said: "Who says black people don't already love their country? There are plenty of black people who died serving their country.

Profound.

Fernandinande said...

wholelottasplainin' said...
"Did you hear about the guy who put cordovan on his white bucks?"


I'm too dumb to understand that Polish polish joke.

Does it mean "Did you hear about the guy who put a fine leather originally made of goatskin but now more frequently of split horsehide on his albino male deer?"

Clayton Hennesey said...
Sorry that this is off topic, but people should really get the transcript of today's Diane Rehm show on the Alt-Right. Quite revealing.


Maybe that's why it's the only "past" show with no "Listen":
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows

Humperdink said...

Captain Oblivious babbled: "There are plenty of white people who don't love their country, hence all the references to revolution/ insurrection by the white right, even here on Althouse."

We love our country, it's commie pinko lefties who have assumed command that we detest.

Clayton Hennesey said...

Yes, I am certain it was scrupulously fair and intellectually honest!

Not merely not scrupulously fair and intellectually honest, it was breathtaking in its aggressive mendacity. Non-Alt-Right caller after caller punctured the memes Rehm was trying in vain to construct. The only thing that could conceivably explain her departure into orbit from any pretext to objectivity would be that this is Rehm's last year, she still owes substantial medical bills from her husband's recent death, and that she hopes for a post-NPR sinecure with Hillary alongside Loretta Lynch.

Who in charge of its funding and tax-advantaging legislation can still claim NPR is "public" with a straight face? The car guys are in reruns.

Jupiter said...

"Why should black people love America?"

As Abby used to advise, ask yourself, "Am I better off with him, or without him?"

And on that note, why should America love black people?

mccullough said...

Despite his tremendous physical abilities, Kapernick can't read defenses. When defensive coordinators adjusted to Kapernick, he couldn't make the mental adjustments. Russell Wilson is the opposite. He's very smart QB. If he stood for the national anthem, it would be the only time Kapernick was on his feet. You can either play the game or you can't. He can't.

bigkat said...

because if they were somewhere else it might be sharing an 8 x10 dirt floor hut with the potus brother

Real American said...

Black people should love America for the same reasons everyone else should.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

"There are plenty of white people who don't love their country, hence all the references to revolution/ insurrection by the white right, even here on Althouse."

It is called tough love. You can love your brother, the heroin addict, and at the same time hate him for what he is doing to himself and everyone around him. IF if you want to save him from destruction you have to use tough love. Force him to face his addictions, acknowledge his own self destruction and even force him, kicking and screaming the whole way,into rehab. Rehab and reconstruction of his life.

If you don't intervene your brother is doomed and not only that.....he will take the whole family into the abyss with him.

Tough love.

Achilles said...

I have a family member who is probably voting for Hillary because of abortion. I am trying to decide what the order of priorities is now. Other than the fact she would sacrifice freedom of speech and the right of self defense for abortion is a dubious value judgment at a more basic level Hillary is a disgusting human being. Hillary is virtually guaranteed to hinder every freedom we have except abortion. Economic freedom will be more dead than it is now.

Given the fact that we will lose the individual right to bear arms and the right to criticize politicians if Hillary has her way what do you do with someone who would support her?

Unknown said...

Tough love= insurrection. Only in fever swamps of the minds of the alt rightosphere. I call it treason, how's that for tough love for you folks daydreaming about a revolution? It's called treason.

Evgueni Damaskine said...

Oh screw it, I didn't even notice.

Gahrie said...

Tough love= insurrection. Only in fever swamps of the minds of the alt rightosphere. I call it treason, how's that for tough love for you folks daydreaming about a revolution? It's called treason.

Tell that to Jefferson.

Gahrie said...

Given the fact that we will lose the individual right to bear arms and the right to criticize politicians if Hillary has her way what do you do with someone who would support her?

Woodchipper?

Humperdink said...

Rush opens his show a few minutes ago with 'America The Beautiful" by Ray Charles.

Unknown said...

Jefferson might say we aren't the British empire of the 1700's.

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damikesc said...

Kaepernick sitting during the anthem isn't a protest. It's practice for the regular season.

I have a family member who is probably voting for Hillary because of abortion.

I'd have to ask "Isn't the Pill cheaper and less invasive?"

Unknown said...

"Given the fact that we will lose the individual right to bear arms and the right to criticize politicians if Hillary has her way what do you do with someone who would support her?"

"Woodchipper?"

Ah, advocating mass murder of more than one half of the voting population? These are Trump voters. "If we don't get our way we will revolt and kill all our enemies!"

damikesc said...

Jefferson might say we aren't the British empire of the 1700's.

With Hillary promising to make it illegal to criticize her, we aren't appreciably more free than we were then.

Unknown said...
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damikesc said...

Ah, advocating mass murder of more than one half of the voting population? These are Trump voters. "If we don't get our way we will revolt and kill all our enemies!"

Gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette.

Qwinn said...

The Left hasn't stopped committing treason since 1968. There is no safer bet that Democrats will reflexively screw our allies and embrace our enemies. We even had Ted Kennedy begging the USSR to help destroy Ronald Reagan. Still waiting for even a slap on the wrist repercussion to anyone for that.

Unknown said...

Damikesc,

When and where did Hillary say or indicate she would make it illegal to criticize her? It's Trump who wants to "open up the libel laws".

Jim Stronach said...

I would invert the question and ask why should America love black people? Looking at it with a return-on-investment perspective they are a very bad deal. They refuse to look after their neighborhoods and in fact destroy them, literally. They require constant nurturing and coddling and foster their own dependency. Sorry, I just don't see much of an upside to the vast majority of them.

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Unknown said...

Trump loves him some Putin and Russian banks too.

damikesc said...


When and where did Hillary say or indicate she would make it illegal to criticize her?


Citizens United, a case over a film critical of Hillary, was "illegal" under law at the time. The SCOTUS overturned that, making it legal.

She wants to overturn that.

Thus, she wishes to make criticism of her illegal.

And you know CNN and MSNBC will happily join.

Trump loves him some Putin and Russian banks too.

So much he helped give him some American uranium...oh wait.

Rusty said...

Blogger jimbino said...
"Why should black people love America?"

Honestly? I'm past the point of caring.

"Because we relieve them of any and all obligation to visit the vaunted national parks and forests that they are part owners of?"

No. For the majority of them we relieve of the obligation of being responsible for themselves.

Nobody is stopping you from driving over to wherever the verdure disadvantaged people of color hang out and loading up your car and driving off to the nearest national scenic overlook.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

I think so much of this recent racial animosity is due to the impending end of the Obama administration. Many blacks are coming to terms the fact that they may not see another black President for many years, if ever. Expect this situation to get worse as January approaches.

JPS said...

"Why should black people love America?"

And yes, of course, Unknown, many do. Most of the black people I know, I met because they signed up to defend America.

As a young man I was incensed reading Derrick Z. Jackson's column in the Boston Globe as to why he wouldn't be celebrating the Fourth of July, i.e. celebrating the birthday of this thoroughly racist country. As I get older I can (through gritted teeth) understand this position a lot better, but I have all the more admiration for those black Americans who have put their lives on the line for this country.

Real American at 10:59 offers, "For the same reasons everyone else should." I was just thinking that Victor Henry's silent musing, in the closing pages of The Winds of War, applies as much to those black Americans as to me:

"Because with all its rotten spots, the United States of America was not only his homeland but the hope of the world."

(I'm no longer so sure of that last part, but I'm not ready to give up.)

Humperdink said...

Captain Oblivious continues her ignorance .... "Trump loves him some Putin and Russian banks too."

Look, we know you miss things in the news, hence your new moniker. But if you get an opportunity, peruse the Uranium One deal.

Rusty said...

Unknown said...
Damikesc,

When and where did Hillary say or indicate she would make it illegal to criticize her? It's Trump who wants to "open up the libel laws".

She doesn't have to. She has the IRS do it.

EMD said...

"Woodchipper?"

Watch your step or Preet Bahara will be calling on the dear Professor.

bigkat said...

rich greedy white folks enjoying 200 dollar appetizers on Martha+s Vineyard
for two weeks = white mans greed runs a world in need just too rich

EMD said...

"When and where did Hillary say or indicate she would make it illegal to criticize her?"

Overturning Citizens United, dumbass.

EMD said...

"Many blacks are coming to terms the fact that they may not see another black President for many years, if ever."

Which is nuts because he did very little if at all for the 'black community" as Preezy.

SukieTawdry said...

Why should black people love America?

It's something I've pondered many times. Why should people love a nation that was founded on the basis that all men are created equal and endowed with the natural rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and yet permitted their ancestors who were brought here in chains none of that? Why should they love a nation that permitted Jim Crow for decades on end? Why should they love a nation where they were at best second class citizens for a very long time? I've been acquainted with African-Americans who were very patriotic, but I never asked them why. Perhaps I should have. Perhaps we should ask them now. It would make a very interesting PBS special, I think.

Original Mike said...

Unknown said ... "When and where did Hillary say or indicate she would make it illegal to criticize her?

If you're going to comment on political matters, you should at least pay attention to current events.

cubanbob said...

SukieTawdry said...
Why should black people love America?"

They don't have to. It's not a requirement. What is a requirement (and that applies to all) is that they obey the laws and don't aid and abet the enemies of the US or commit treason which is why all decent Americans should not vote for any Democrat this election be it from President to Governor to Mayor and from Congress to State Legislature and City and County councilmen. Are you a decent American? As for CK, he is free to say what he wants and is required to accept the possible consequences his pissing off his team's fans could result in.

John Scott said...

Regarding Comanche Voter's comment regarding being taken in by white parents

From an article at CNN

"The United States adopts more children internationally, but also domestically, than the rest of the world combined,"

So there's that

mockturtle said...

Lincoln actually favored sending freed slaves back to Africa. While some blacks I know have complaints about 'white privilege', none would live anywhere else. Slavery was a horrible practice but the descendants of slaves have a better standard of living and more opportunities in America than they would have in Africa.

Martin said...

Why shouldn't they? Loving your country does not mean you think it perfect; true love includes recognizing its problems, past and present, and caring for it and the people in it, and working to improve it where needed.

If you (white, black, brown, yellow or whatever) can't love it, there is nothing stopping you from emigrating to a more congenial place. Unlike many countries, you don't need govt permission to leave the USA.

Gahrie said...

Ah, advocating mass murder of more than one half of the voting population?

So you haven't noticed the eliminationist rhetoric coming from the Left for the last fifty years....how precious.

Gahrie said...


Jefferson might say we aren't the British empire of the 1700's.



"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."

Gahrie said...

Ah, advocating mass murder of more than one half of the voting population? These are Trump voters. "If we don't get our way we will revolt and kill all our enemies!"

Yet somehow, all the actual violence is committed against Trump supporters.......

Jupiter said...

That woodchipper sounds kind of messy. Maybe just use large forceps to painlessly crush their skulls? Then we can sell their organs!

Paul Zrimsek said...

If you believe that blacks should not be expected to love America, do you also believe that blacks should not be considered for any job where loyalty to America is a requirement? The one entails the other.

mockturtle said...

@Jupiter That woodchipper sounds kind of messy. Maybe just use large forceps to painlessly crush their skulls? Then we can sell their organs!

Bring back the guillotine! Swift, sure and makes great theater!

hombre said...

Why should black people love America?

What country suffered 664,000 casualties in a civil war fought in large part to free black slaves?

What country has the most black millionaires?

In what country do black males who are 6% of the population commit 40% of the violent crime while politicians fearful of losing the black voting bloc pretend it isn't happening?

What is the first western democracy with other than a black majority to elect a black man as its leader - twice?

What country offers multi-generational welfare to its citizens, including black citizens?

In what country are blacks permitted/encouraged to riot/loot/burn regardless of the righteousness of their cause with little risk of arrest and no fear of armed retribution?

In what country have blacks been given preferred status for college admissions, jobs, loans?

Etc., etc., etc.

hombre said...

Gahrie wrote: "Yet somehow, all the actual violence is committed against Trump supporters......."

For that matter, nearly all the violence in this country is perpetrated by Democrats and their consorts.

Brando said...

" Why should black people love America?

What country suffered 664,000 casualties in a civil war fought in large part to free black slaves?"

You don't even need to get into all that, because the answer is much simpler. If anyone (regardless of race) does not think this is the best country for them, they're free to leave. It doesn't even have to be because they don't love this country--you can love this country and still want to live somewhere else (e.g., climate, family, cost of living, a job opportunity) but if you think it's completely unloveable, then it makes little sense to stay here. This country goes through pains to determine who can come in--but there's really nothing stopping you (unless you're a fugitive) from going.

We don't need to justify all the reasons this country is good for blacks, whites, etc.--their decision to stay says it all.

Jupiter said...

The problem with the "Love it or leave it" idea, is that other countries do not welcome the wretched refuse of our teeming shores. Most countries are quite picky about who they will allow to immigrate. They have apparently not gotten the message, that caring who your neighbors are is racist.

Is Liberia still welcoming American blacks?

Doug said...

Mr. Kaepernick strikes me as a fellow who is willing to suffer for his principles. So I say, let the suffering begin!

BTW, he DOES know there is a decal of The Flag of the Oppressor on the back of his helmet, doesn't he? Not that he is going to have to wear the helmet any time soon, just sayin'.

JaimeRoberto said...

@Unknown: "There are plenty of white people who don't love their country, hence all the references to revolution/ insurrection by the white right, even here on Althouse."

Did you see the news that Sanders has just launched a political organization called "Our Revolution"? Why are lefties always talking about revolution?

CWJ said...

"I'm thinking about Colin Kaepernick and the sudden intrusion of an old simmering issue: Why should black people love America?"

Forget it commenters, it's Althouse.

As for Kaepernick, I love the guy! If not for him, our Chiefs wouldn't have got Alex Smith at fire sale prices. Not perfect, but hey, look at the losers we've put at QB for years. Thank you Colin!

I Callahan said...

It's Trump who wants to "open up the libel laws".

Explain to me, again, how this is a bad thing?

Unknown said...


"Did you see the news that Sanders has just launched a political organization called "Our Revolution"? Why are lefties always talking about revolution."

Did Sanders also say he wanted to feed conservatives into the woodchipper?

mockturtle said...

There are some on the left so clueless that they take rhetorical hyperbole literally. Clueless. Fucking clueless.

Humperdink said...

"Did Sanders also say he wanted to feed conservatives into the woodchipper?"

Captain Oblivious doesn't understand humor. Which makes sense, given her label.

Gahrie said...

Did Sanders also say he wanted to feed conservatives into the woodchipper?

No...it was Saddam's kids who liked to throw people into woodchippers...Bernie and his supporters support the traditional commie method...firing squads and ice axes.

Humperdink said...

@mockturtle Ha ..... too funny.

And I suspect clueless is still scratching her head.

David said...

"Why should black people love America?"

Ask the ones who immigrate here.

JaimeRoberto said...

"Did Sanders also say he wanted to feed conservatives into the woodchipper?" Sanders has a lot more influence than a bunch of tongue-in-cheek commenters on a blog, and he just founded an organization called "Our Revolution". Why is always revolution with lefties? Or does it just mean "personal struggle"? A leftist jihad of sorts.

JamesB.BKK said...

Black people in America probably think my taxes are too high, and the "value" in return sucks.

MayBee said...

I don't think it's about the color of your skin, but the life you are leading.

If you are caught in a terrible neighborhood with a terrible education and danger everywhere and that is your America, I wouldn't see a lot to love in that, no.

The sad thing is, none of that has to be that way. *America* isn't making that neighborhood bad or dangerous.

damikesc said...

Did Sanders also say he wanted to feed conservatives into the woodchipper?

We've seen, in two different cities, Trump supporters mobbed while police were ordered by higher ups to not interfere.

That is markedly worse than words.

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