July 17, 2016

Trump-Pence post-coital...

... logo.

That's the first time I've seen fit to use the word "post-coital" on this blog, though it did appear — once — in a quote:
"I realised one day, as I gazed out on the treetops outside the bedroom of our little cottage, that the usual post-coital rush of a sense of vitality infusing the world, of delight with myself and with all around me, and of creative energy rushing through everything alive, was no longer following the physical pleasure.... I felt I was losing somehow, what made me a woman, and that I could not face living in this condition for the rest of my life."
Recognize the distinctive authorial voice? It's Naomi Wolf.

That post ends — aptly! — with this:



"Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed [the physical act of love]. Luckily, I was able to interpret these feelings correctly."

Here's the Wikipedia article, "Post-coital tristesse":
Post-coital tristesse (PCT) or post-coital dysphoria (PCD) is the feeling in humans of melancholy, anxiety, agitation or aggression after sexual intercourse (coitus). Its name comes from New Latin postcoitalis and French tristesse, literally "sadness". Many people with PCT may exhibit strong feelings of anxiety lasting from five minutes to two hours after coitus.

The phenomenon is traced to the [ancient] Greek doctor Galen, who wrote, "Every animal is sad after coitus except the human female and the rooster." The philosopher Baruch Spinoza in his Tractatus de Intellectus Emendatione writes "For as far as sensual pleasure is concerned, the mind is so caught up in it, as if at peace in a [true] good, that it is quite prevented from thinking of anything else. But after the enjoyment of sensual pleasure is past, the greatest sadness follows. If this does not completely engross, still it thoroughly confuses and dulls the mind."...
We'll see how Trump and Pence do. 

50 comments:

Bart Hall (Kansas, USA) said...

As with sex, in a financial bubble it feels the very best just before the end.

rhhardin said...

Marry in haste, repent at leisure.

coupe said...
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George111 said...

Divorce likely.

Michael K said...

Why is this even being said ?

William said...

Slightly off topic. The Coen Brothers have a movie out, Hail, Caesar, that mocks a Hollywood Communist cell with a bit of the same wit and panache that Kubrick used to make fun of the military in Dr. Strangelove. In the Coen movie, the Communists are not portrayed as high minded idealists but rather as a group of fatuous intellectuals whose Marxism is a form of privilege and self reverence. I have never seen Hollywood commies depicted in such a way. They're either heroic martyrs as in Trumbo or, as in right wing films of that period, evil masterminds.......We have comic stereotypes of cops, military men, and bankers. Why are there no comic stereotypes of, say, the director of a collective farm.

Blue Devils Democrat said...
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chrisnavin.com said...

Please not Naomi Wolf. No. Just...no.

Blue Devils Democrat said...

Trump is going to be destroyed by HRC + Warren/Vilsack/Kaine.

This is General not stupid GOP primary. He has No talented staff or team. He will lose in every part of country.

Both House and Senate are gone like fart in the wind.

Thank you: The Donald.

David Begley said...

Oh, please.

A total reach.

Trying to convert Trump and Pence into homosexuals. Best for the Left and MSM to stick with the usual: hate, racism and Christians.

Bay Area Guy said...

Post-coital Dysphoria?

Hmmm. Never heard of that one. Better talk to my wife about it.

It's funny, but when she was younger she would have the best, most outrageous orgasms. But then we found out she had epilepsy. (Ba-da-Bing)

Mark said...

Recalling the logo makes it clear it was an unforced error.

Not the best way to start a campaign, to say the least

madAsHell said...

When I was younger, I suffered Post-Coital Departure, or GTFO.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

Why is this even being said ?

I'm going to go with immaturity.

Unknown said...

Remember "Nixon's the one" in 1972? No Veep in the slogan or the logo. Maybe--just maybe--Trump needs to follow Mr. Nixon's example.

shiloh said...

An arranged marriage, much like the unwritten contract forcing many cons to vote for Trump against their wishes.

Hopefully Pence has had his tubes tied!

traditionalguy said...

Trump will need Dr Carson to give him a good antibiotic to cure sexually transmitted Hoosier Dullness Disease. It starts as a rash and before you know it you big in to eat out at a booth in Chilis.

n.n said...

Weird. Still, Planned Parenthood or "=". The "final solution" or dysfunction. Channeling Mengele or Hefner. The establishment is AFU.

Tom said...

That sadness is because she's still talking and we just want to sleep.

wildswan said...

In Norman Mailer politics, sex, crime and policing were viewed as emotional drives of a similar nature. If we took that point of view would we regard these final moments in the whole primary season selection (which are pretty flat) as "postcoital tristesse"?
Or is it an "After the Ball" moment caused by media hype followed by post-hype tristesse?

[After the ball was over, after the break of morn,
After the dancers' leaving, after the stars are gone;
Many a heart is aching, if you could read them all;
Many the hopes that have vanished, after the ball.

After the ball was over, Bonnie took out her glass eye,
Put her false teeth in the water, hung up her wig to dry;
Placed her false arm on the table, laid her false leg on the chair;
After the party was over, Bonnie was only half there!]

Or is everyone at the beach or on mountain trails quietly enjoying themselves? which is wrong in world on fire but ... it's been on fire for a long time and will be ... so ... turn your back and look out at the water. In a connected world with things going wrong 24/7, can we admit we still have a private space? More than one? Larger than a tiny house in the big woods? Are there archipelagos where no cell phone goes though cell phones are there? Is someone still wondering about being and becoming? and someone making quilts? and someone is looking at their first child and someone is by a lake. Is music still flowing across the water? And the standing wave still standing in the brook by the rock?

Ann Althouse said...

I trust readers to click on the link to understand the subject.

Some of the comments here show failure to click.

This continues a topic raised the other day and brings it to a satisfying closure.

Franciscan said...

Who is fucking who? With the first Trump Pence logo I thought it was Trump asserting his manhood into Pence, but now I suspect it is Trump who feels fucked and it is he who has that post coital letdown. Pence will outshine him ( by merely acting normal) and make him look even more unsuitable by comparison. This match wasn't made in heaven.

MisterBuddwing said...

C'est la petite mort, n'est-ce pas?

mockturtle said...

William, thank you for the heads up! I've always admired the Coen Brothers' work.

David said...

I totally missed the "suggestive" aspect of the logo. Oh well.

Fernandinande said...

William said...
Slightly off topic. The Coen Brothers ...


The Coen brothers are never off topic.

I'm shocked, shocked I tells ya, that Trump doesn't one of these in his logo.

mockturtle said...

I've never experienced post-coital letdown but, rather, a feeling of exhilaration. Sexual tension having been allayed, energy to direct toward other things. But then I always preferred sex in the afternoon.

Regarding Trump, yes, probably letdown. He listened to his family instead of his own good instincts and now is just another pawn of the GOP. Sad.

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

"Bodily Fluids." Sheesh! Sounded strange in "Strangelove," and still sounds strange.

Fluid comes from a body, it is a "body fluid." As an adjective, we do not say "flowerly seeds" or "catly dander." Referring to objects without permanent physical presence we do say "ghostly noise" or (Althouse excepted) "fishy smell." Implied here is that (e.g.) the noise may not come from an actual ghost, but is only ghost-like.

"Bodily fluid" sounds pretentious, characteristic of lawyers and news writers*.

I am Hammond, Anti-Circumlocution Officer.

*Most recent egreious circumloction example concerns the Michigan prisoner who grabbed a gun in the Courthouse, killed two bailiffs and woulded a deputy. According to the TV news, "The prisoner was trying to be transferred." More properly, the officers were trying to transfer the prisoner; the prisoner was trying to escape.

Unknown said...

Maybe we should hear more about the Professor's sex life? For context. And ratings/hits of course. She's a pretty lady, or was, and even now I'm sure some cheesecake would be well received.

The great thing about being in the media is that no one snoops on you. Why is such an imbalance of power tolerated?

mikee said...

I dare Althouse to change the names and repost when Hillary names her VP pick.

I double dog dare her!

Because this post about Hillary and Warren, or Hill and Cuomo, or Hill and Juan Castro, or Hill and McCauliffe, of Hill and Sid Blumenthal, will be ever so much funnier, no matter who Hilary chooses as the Veep designate. Because the entire country will be so very sad after them together.

Paco Wové said...

Not being as filthy-minded as other Althouse commenters, my first impression of the Trumppence logo was of something being flushed down a toilet.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Doesn't this stuff ever get old for you?

Unknown said...

Dude, she IS old. One thing I notice is that for old people, old stuff tends not to get old.

The Cracker Unknown said...

William,

Thanks for the vid tip! I was unaware of this movie but I'm going to watch it tonight. Saw Eye in the Sky a couple of nights ago. Excellent movie even though there's a bit of Muzzie-hugging in it. They make up for it by icing the Euro-Jihadess with a Hellfire all her own. Plus, Jesse finally went out and got a real job. Still a handful, though.

Jon Ericson said...

Tag team is back.
How was the wine?

Tyrone Slothrop said...

Hillary and Javier Becerra. Latino, beta male, ass-kisser-- he checks all the boxes.

Rhythm and Balls said...

I just don't know how many tenuous Trump-sex-innuendo-literary connections are necessary. This is the same guy who prompted the famous CNN headline of "Trump Defends Size of Penis." I think he makes those connections all on his own. The guy who gets his information from "the internet."

A blog post every day, at least. I guess she's right-wing enough to engage conspiracies. Just with her, they're a little, um, different.

machine said...

it was so brilliant of a logo they pulled it after one weekend?

mccullough said...

The new logo looks like an eye chart.

The Cracker Unknown said...

And once again, we're talking about Trump instead of Hillary. It will be interesting to see who's interest this phenomenon serves. Clearly, there are very good reasons why Hillary doesn't want to be talked about. But does that increase the number of people who will vote for her? OTOH, does vilifying Trump and making him the only candidate who is regularly discussed increase his vote total? If Trump wins, manufacturing notoriety may become a valid campaign strategy in the future.

gadfly said...

So Trump refused to take on social media about the TP Flag logo? What will all the Trump Trolls think about this backing down?

It really doesn't and shouldn't really matter but the bloom is now off the rose. Any way you cut it "TP" means "toilet papering."

Chuck said...

Althouse are you feeling a deep sense of dissatisfaction with Trump, when he is attached to the Christian conservative Mike Pence? Some ennui? Disappointment with what you thought would be the first cagily pro-gay Republican presidential ticket?

A feeling, in General Ripper's words, of "a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness"? Can you interpret those feelings correctly?

Chuck said...

Trump: "My twitter has become so powerful that I can actually make my enemies tell the truth."

Except about logos.




https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/258584864163500033


Unknown said...

Chuck, I'm reminded that you offered Dr. Kennedy a beatdown over your false interpretation of the Fields nothingburger. But assuming your Michigander identity is real (yeah, right), you're much closer to New York City than to Los Angeles. Why don't you come here and meet your destiny? We'll take good care of you.

If you actually do oppose Hillary! and crave her smashing defeat, and if you are a good soldier in the Grand Army of the Republicans...

...then follow the orders of your party and support the nominee, who is Donald J. Trump, with all your might. In other words, stop what you're doing. If you absolutely choke on posting supportively...just shut up. It's okay for you to not say anything.

If you are some no name low rent Dem droid, well, you're just barely earning your pay, and your ROI is steadily declining, so, I guess, live it up while you can.

One question: Wage or piecework?

gadfly said...
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Chuck said...

Unknown said...
Chuck, I'm reminded that you offered Dr. Kennedy a beatdown over your false interpretation of the Fields nothingburger.


That's false. And now, to help you with your apology to me, I'll fill you in on the details.

I never threatened Michael K over a mere disagreement. I've never done that. I would never do that. People are welcome, if they wish, to ignore the video and believe, as Trump suggested, that Michelle Fields "made it all up." Or that Lyin' Corey Lewandowski "never met" Michelle. LMFAO. He was proud, I know, to have the unwavering support of Mr. Trump. For a little while, anyway.

But that wasn't even the issue. The issue with Michael K is that whenever he gets cornered in an argument, his reaction is to accuse his opponents of "needing therapy" and needing more medications of some kind or another. Specific medications are not beyond the recommendation of Dr. Kennedy, as you call him.

I've warned him about that in the past. He can argue whatever points he cares to; it doesn't bother me. And he can accuse anybody else of needing psychiatric treatment. As long as they put up with it, I suppose. It is probably a non-trivial violation of whatever state medical board licenses him, if he is licensed. And it is probably a violation of whatever national medical board certifies him, if he is board certified. For what that's worth.

I am simply not putting up with it, when he does it to me.

Mark said...

Shows what happens when you piss off all the gay graphic designers with your VP choice.

It is remarkable how many people fail to click on links.

Unknown said...

Do you deny that you offered him violence? I remember repeated references to your imposing height and weight which could have only been relevant to physical menace.

Brando said...

Yeah, the damage is done with that logo. I expect to see that batted around social media for a month or so.

Does Team Trump have at least one person they can filter things through? I get the appeal of "no filter" but communication is going to start to matter if the guy actually gets elected.

Unknown said...

What logo? What month? It's over and done with.

Brando, what is your damage? My God, one would think Trump owes you money!