According to something I read on the Internet, Madison gets its first snowfall in October about 25% of the time. A good bet by Meade if he did not offer odds, even if he lost. Unless he was counting on some of that global warming that has failed to materialize to increase his chances...
LOL, Meade. Then what explains your effort to argue that the standard of what counts as "snow" was higher than what we saw sticking and showing on the ground this morning.
My friends, he actually argued that the standard was enough that the sidewalks would need to be shoveled!
Would I have picked "under" when he chose November 1st if that had been the standard?
And to attempt the subtlety of merely putting up a hoary old quote about cheating… and to seem to portray that as "failing with honor"…
Ha. You misremembered the standard, my delicate little remontant flower. Let me remind you — the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk.
If you ask anyone today in Madison who was up before 8, and who looked outside, if it snowed last night, they will say Yes.
If you then say "Well, it doesn't count because you didn't have to shovel it" you will most likely get a patronizing single lifted eyebrow. (Think Mr. Spock).
Thankfully, I brought in most of my plants last night for overwintering. I doubt the Sinningia would have survived. I did leave out the rosemary -- that comes in tonight.
"the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk."
I focus on the word "need". Had it been a foot of solid cover snow, would Mead have pointed out that with snowshoes, the sidewalk would not need clearing?
Are you talking about the Halloween blizzard of 1991? I had just moved to St. Paul in September. It was a brutal wake-up for someone not from the upper Midwest.
The Savage Noble said... "the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk."
I focus on the word "need". Had it been a foot of solid cover snow, would Mead have pointed out that with snowshoes, the sidewalk would not need clearing?
"Need" in the sense of IT'S THE LAW. And then I would appeal to her love of self government.
If that didn't work, I would then ask her to educate me in the meaning of the phrases "spirit of the law" and "shadow of the law".
Finally, I would appeal to her unflagging sense of wifely duty, at which point she would say (not necessarily in these exact words): "You are so right, my dear husband. Let me show you just how right you are."
The United States government precludes any seminary from discriminating against any religion if that seminary enters its prison system to educate prisoners.
Southwestern Baptist Seminary has the choice to allow Muslims into the Baptist Seminary or opt out of prison ministries.
If the standard is that "the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk", there is a threshold question of what "need" means.
For a snow falling overnight here in Cambridge, Massachusetts, you would have until 1pm to remove it. You do not "need" to remove it if it melts before then.
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41 comments:
Nothing like a good gloat.
Except a compliment.
I had to wear a light jacket in this a.m. (motorcycle commuter) in Austin. Got below 60 last night.
Nice bet! Wow!
I would prefer even to fail with honor than win by cheating.
That is how we know you are not a Democrat at heart, Meade
According to something I read on the Internet, Madison gets its first snowfall in October about 25% of the time. A good bet by Meade if he did not offer odds, even if he lost. Unless he was counting on some of that global warming that has failed to materialize to increase his chances...
Snow already?
It got cold here last night, it's in the 50's today. Saturday it was high 80s.
LOL, Meade. Then what explains your effort to argue that the standard of what counts as "snow" was higher than what we saw sticking and showing on the ground this morning.
My friends, he actually argued that the standard was enough that the sidewalks would need to be shoveled!
Would I have picked "under" when he chose November 1st if that had been the standard?
And to attempt the subtlety of merely putting up a hoary old quote about cheating… and to seem to portray that as "failing with honor"…
Hmmmph. I was all: "Who said that? Nixon?"
We had that much in Central Ohio a month ago. None since.
Have they closed the schools?
Ha. You misremembered the standard, my delicate little remontant flower. Let me remind you — the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk.
It's practically in the constitution.
My friends, he actually argued that the standard was enough that the sidewalks would need to be shoveled!
We did have frozen precipitation earlier this month, too -- on the 4th, I saw it falling! -- but that was recorded as ice pellets at the airport.
Sidewalks haven't had to be shoveled because of snow here in October that I can remember. Why shovel when the snow will melt by itself in a day?
Pesky global warming.
There. Forgive me my appeal to authority but after all, if MadisonMan is not the Weather Authority®, then no one is.
I hope you readers perceive the distinction Meade is making at 8:53 AM.
It's the shovel/broom distinction… in response to my "he actually argued that the standard was enough that the sidewalks would need to be shoveled."
The standard was only whether some tool would been needed on the sidewalks.
Some tool.
A new word for me: remontant. A perpetually flowering rose...how romantic!
She parses just like a little girl.
Meade is a tool if he cleared the sidewalk this morning (sorry, Meade).
My first Halloween in MN had a snowfall that left us with over two feet on the ground. No dispute there.
It isn't snow unless you can make snow angels.
Awww.
Not perpetually blooming, but repeatedly blooming.
The flower in the picture is liriope, and it's remontant because it bloomed in the spring then bloomed again in the fall.
Literally: remounting.
Yeah. Perpetually would be a rather high standard.
Snowy Day Women #12 & 35
Everybody must get snowed...
from Wikipedia: The term originated in the nineteenth century from the French verb remonter or 'coming up again'.
Dare I ask......what was the wager?
my dear sweet friend...
when the roses fade
and I'm in the shade...
Warning: NSFDH (not safe for Dylan-haters)
The standard here in Vermont is that it isn't snow unless it at least drifts enough for my lab to swim in it.
Althouse gloats "I won."
Meade, get the shovel ready.
And to attempt the subtlety of merely putting up a hoary old quote about cheating… and to seem to portray that as "failing with honor"…
Hmmmph. I was all: "Who said that? Nixon?"
"... and I won."
And I'm all: "Who said THAT?"
Meade sounds like he wants to move the goalposts.
Ah and also, the end of AGW is increasingly clear.
"goalposts"
heh heh.
I go with Meade. That's not snow. Snow Completely covers the ground, like a good pizza is completely covered in peperoni.
If you ask anyone today in Madison who was up before 8, and who looked outside, if it snowed last night, they will say Yes.
If you then say "Well, it doesn't count because you didn't have to shovel it" you will most likely get a patronizing single lifted eyebrow. (Think Mr. Spock).
Thankfully, I brought in most of my plants last night for overwintering. I doubt the Sinningia would have survived. I did leave out the rosemary -- that comes in tonight.
"the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk."
I focus on the word "need". Had it been a foot of solid cover snow, would Mead have pointed out that with snowshoes, the sidewalk would not need clearing?
Patrick,
Are you talking about the Halloween blizzard of 1991? I had just moved to St. Paul in September. It was a brutal wake-up for someone not from the upper Midwest.
It is snow, Meade. And the only way for it to get there was to fall.
You needed a lawyer when you made the bet and you didn't do it.
(Althouse, you did advise him to get his own counsel, right?)
The Savage Noble said...
"the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk."
I focus on the word "need". Had it been a foot of solid cover snow, would Mead have pointed out that with snowshoes, the sidewalk would not need clearing?
"Need" in the sense of IT'S THE LAW. And then I would appeal to her love of self government.
If that didn't work, I would then ask her to educate me in the meaning of the phrases "spirit of the law" and "shadow of the law".
Finally, I would appeal to her unflagging sense of wifely duty, at which point she would say (not necessarily in these exact words): "You are so right, my dear husband. Let me show you just how right you are."
Snow what I mean?
The United States government precludes any seminary from discriminating against any religion if that seminary enters its prison system to educate prisoners.
Southwestern Baptist Seminary has the choice to allow Muslims into the Baptist Seminary or opt out of prison ministries.
If the standard is that "the snow must be enough to need removal from the sidewalk", there is a threshold question of what "need" means.
For a snow falling overnight here in Cambridge, Massachusetts, you would have until 1pm to remove it. You do not "need" to remove it if it melts before then.
"Snow what I mean?"
Yeah, I do.
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