I imagine that before the editor got into it the headline writer had it that Walker had repeatedly slapped the shit out of Burke. Or, Burke was beaten within an inch of her political life. Or, Burke has been yanked back by her hair by Scott Walker.
I must say that looking in at Wisconsin politics and having the pleasure of you explaining the insider bits is a positive treat. I love every minute of it. I do.
My very favorite, better than the 700 grand bribe, was the secret server in Walker's office. Which morphed into a secret router when you found out what a server was. That was what they call comedy gold.
I've been casually following the whole Scott Walker vs the entrenched establishment in Wisconsin for a couple of years now and it seems to me that something is terribly wrong in the Madison.
Without a doubt, they are not smart enough to write an evocative headline "intentionally".
Perhaps I'll revise my opinion if they use the word "choke" in any Wisconsin Supreme Court story headlines.
That's the sort of thing that would be done by someone who thinks they're smarter than they are, which does seem to fit the journal(sentinel)ism job description these days.
Why do you think there has been so much negative press regarding the NFL lately? The scene is being set. We will see more and more of this over the next couple of years. If you don't vote for Hillary in 2016, you will be considered an abuser of women. Not really so different from if you didn't vote for Obama, you're a racist.
Just photoshop their respective heads over a couple that is actually coming to blows. Make it absolutely clear that Walker is a wife-beater, who will marry Mary Burke just so he can beat her.
From my "backwater" of five and a half million people i can fly nonstop to London, Paris, Tokyo, Berlin. Even Los Angeles.
From Dane County "International."?
And down here we put corrupt politicians in jail versus having endless "secret grand jury" hearings that some dufus with a high school degree knows the contents of.
I didn't vote. But the fact that 95% of Althouse readers think the headline is a subliminal conspiracy theory to hurt Walker is pretty damn funny. Always the victim.
garage: "But the fact that 95% of Althouse readers think the headline is a subliminal conspiracy theory to hurt Walker is pretty damn funny."
Feel free to show your work for how you determined that 95% of Althouse "readers" think this is a conspiracy.
As far as the "conspiracy" is concerned, there's nothing secret about it. The dems are using violent imagery in their talking points to paint republicans as women beaters.
So, if it's not "conscious" on the part of the paper, it's just a coincidence that the headline dovetails perfectly with the dems chosen rhetoric at this time.
In the matter of liberal "journalism" I was just treated to a BBC bit on NPR which dealt with D'Sousa's conviction and sentencing. In about three minutes he as described as a "right winger" six times. Michael Moore with whom he was compared was described as an Oscar winner.
Really. You could not make it more obvious if you tried.
How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?
How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?
I'll remind you that Democrats blamed Sarah Palin for the shooting of Giffords due to having crosshairs on her state as a target for a seat takeover.
If your side cannot live by its own inane standards, you might want to change your standards. Otherwise, why should we give you double standards?
madisonfella: "How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?"
LOL
Conservative!
And did we not just deal with this "endorsed twice" nuance just the other day?
Bottom line: the entire democrat party establishment has shifted it's rhetoric to link republicans with violence against women symbology and the largest newspaper in WI just happens, coincidently, totally independently, to have it's headline writers create headlines that align perfectly with the dems latest rhetorical tact.
I'll remind you that Democrats blamed Sarah Palin for the shooting of Giffords due to having crosshairs on her state as a target for a seat takeover.
Yes, that is another example of whacked out crazy people acting crazy. Why are you trying to emulate that behavior?
If your side...
If I am responsible for everything said by everyone who has ever disagreed with your opinions then you are responsible for the threats against voters being made by this militia group, and many many other words and actions by those who have a different opinion than mine.
madisonfella: "Why are you trying to emulate that behavior?"
Could you expand your thoughts as to why noticing clear alignment in rhetoric between the dem party establishment and newspapers is equivalent to accusing someone of murder who had nothing to do with that act?
madisonfella: "So the latest spin is that the MJS didn't actually endorse Scott Walker for Governor in two separate elections?"
No.
In fact, the last time this issue was raised I was the one who pointed out that the 2 endorsements was technically true.
As Ann pointed out (as did other posters), the fact that the second endorsement was in response to the recall and not the normal election cycle did in fact constitute a different sort of endorsement qualitatively.
I believe that the paper pointed out that the recall was inappropriate and for that reason alone the second endorsement was proffered.
If I am responsible for everything said by everyone who has ever disagreed with your opinions then you are responsible for the threats against voters being made by this militia group, and many many other words and actions by those who have a different opinion than mine.
...yet Walker is responsible for people he has no association with.
Also damikesc, couldn't help but notice that in a different thread you said that the militia group was "alleged" to have made plans to intimidate voters. Yet you didn't say that Walker "allegedly" has no association with that group, and instead made the very definitive claim that there is no association between the man and the group.
Given how carefully you choose your words, I have to ask if you know the Governor personally.
seeing as how Obama has slipped to 35% approval (if you add in the "somewhat approve") I think the Walker campaign should release a commercial showing both Burke and Obama at Harvard graduation ceremonies
"I voted no because this is a headline construct that has been used in politics previously."
But who was the hitter and who was the hittee (hitee?) in those headlines?
If (and I stress "if") the media has one set of headlines for Dem politicians and one for Republicans that doesn't mean just because it was used before it's not intentional and not used selectively.
In fact, I would draw your attention to the ongoing curiosity (documented on numerous blogs over the years) of party affiliation often being absent or mentioned many paragraphs down in a story when the scoundrel in question is a Democrat but prominently featured at the top when it's a Republican. There's lots and lots of ways to steer things in the direction you want.
Because I happen to notice that another supposedly unbiased media organ has decided that it's cool to adopt the dem rhetorical talking point strategm I'm "no better" than those who purposely libeled a politician by claiming she was directly responsible for an attempted murder.
Yeah, that sounds equivalent.
Too funny.
Your "equivalence" tactic is precisely what someone in the middle would not do.
You're the one who first made the comparison Drago, not I.
Will you tell us some more about how the entire democrat party establishment has total control over the very same newspaper that endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor or are you just going to try and distract everyone with the whole recall elections don't count when it comes to endorsements squirrel again?
"madisonfella said... How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?"
Tell you what Penguin, I will give you $10 for very Republican endorsed by the MJS, and you give me $10 for every Democrat. Deal?
No, you're too far left to be within eye sight of the middle.
It is easy to tell when you are cornered and desperate, because you start using pages from the Alnkinski playbook. I'm sure he would be really proud of the way you constantly try to personalize and polarize the targets.
And it doesn't matter how many different names you post under while making your accusations. You are still wrong about knowing me.
Also damikesc, couldn't help but notice that in a different thread you said that the militia group was "alleged" to have made plans to intimidate voters. Yet you didn't say that Walker "allegedly" has no association with that group, and instead made the very definitive claim that there is no association between the man and the group.
I ALSO didn't say Walker wasn't allegedly a member of the Communist Underground, either. I will comfortably say he isn't.
There is zero evidence even remotely attempting to be presented to tie him to this group, so I lack the time to address all insane hypotheticals.
Meanwhile, the evidence presented of this militia's "threat" are Facebook posts, which is almost adorable that people buy that as proof.
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Yes, the news agency responsible for splattering a stupid non scandal on their front page for days is trying to help Burke.
There were three votes for "no."
Garage, you're only supposed to vote once.
Where's voter ID when you need it?
Where's voter ID when you need it?
Ha. You don't need an ID to send Walker a 700k bribe, why do you need one to vote?
I imagine that before the editor got into it the headline writer had it that Walker had repeatedly slapped the shit out of Burke. Or, Burke was beaten within an inch of her political life. Or, Burke has been yanked back by her hair by Scott Walker.
Garage
I must say that looking in at Wisconsin politics and having the pleasure of you explaining the insider bits is a positive treat. I love every minute of it. I do.
My very favorite, better than the 700 grand bribe, was the secret server in Walker's office. Which morphed into a secret router when you found out what a server was. That was what they call comedy gold.
Thanks again. Really priceless stuff.
"Take your best guess" should clearly be "Take your best shot."
Remember when using target reticle clip art on a map was dangerous and partially to blame for a wholly unrelated shooting? Good times.
of course it's intentional
I'm okay with this sort of imagery, presuming as I do that Ms. Burke demanded that Governor Walker hit her with his best shot, fire away.
At least he didn't drag her by the hair.
"A reader emails, noting the domestic violence imagery,..."
'Cause, of course, they're married.
This madness has to end sometime,...
This is women boxing with shadows,...
My very favorite, better than the 700 grand bribe, was the secret server in Walker's office.
I bet this sort of corruption is commonplace in the backwater bog where you live. I bet you're wondering what the fuss is all about.
Meh. I'd'a gone with "...slashes out at..."
Maybe "...targets..."
"...fires another shot at..."
yep, the link is still opening my gmail account????
Most if not all the Dem women candidates are using that type of "abusing women" imaging to get votes.
I've been casually following the whole Scott Walker vs the entrenched establishment in Wisconsin for a couple of years now and it seems to me that something is terribly wrong in the Madison.
Me too, so I googled Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Without a doubt, they are not smart enough to write an evocative headline "intentionally".
Perhaps I'll revise my opinion if they use the word "choke" in any Wisconsin Supreme Court story headlines.
That's the sort of thing that would be done by someone who thinks they're smarter than they are, which does seem to fit the journal(sentinel)ism job description these days.
Why do you think there has been so much negative press regarding the NFL lately? The scene is being set. We will see more and more of this over the next couple of years. If you don't vote for Hillary in 2016, you will be considered an abuser of women. Not really so different from if you didn't vote for Obama, you're a racist.
Too subtle!
Just photoshop their respective heads over a couple that is actually coming to blows. Make it absolutely clear that Walker is a wife-beater, who will marry Mary Burke just so he can beat her.
OT
Still getting Instapundit borked. All cookied cleared and site refreshed, top of the page is still:
September 22, 2014
THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THE ISSUE OFF THE TABLE BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER, NO MORE, NO LESS: Obama’s Halfhearted War On Terror.
Posted at 6:00 am by Glenn Reynolds
I'm assuming there has been more posted since yesterday 6am? Wondering if some agency is fucking with his site update? Weird.
Garage.
LOL. Thanks again for another chuckle.
From my "backwater" of five and a half million people i can fly nonstop to London, Paris, Tokyo, Berlin. Even Los Angeles.
From Dane County "International."?
And down here we put corrupt politicians in jail versus having endless "secret grand jury" hearings that some dufus with a high school degree knows the contents of.
LOL
The Crack Emcee said...
This is women boxing with shadows,...
Egads Cracktopus!!
Shadows are "dark"!
Women boxing with shadows!! More like women boxing with dark figures!!
Why would you want to create such imagery?
It's shadow turtles all the way down.
Can't believe Garage has the time to vote 25 times like that.
The infanticide crowd just pledged 1.2 million to run ads for Burke. Makes those mining boys look downright cheap.
I followed the link and all I got was that G-mail page and a big blue "Submit" button.
So Islamic!
From my "backwater" of five and a half million people i can fly nonstop to London, Paris, Tokyo, Berlin. Even Los Angeles.
Yea we can't compete with that. We are looking more and more like the Southern state every day though. But cold as hell.
Seems like a perfect place to use the civility bullsh*t tag.
"richard mcenroe said...
Can't believe Garage has the time to vote 25 times like that."
Maybe he got a job with the State?
I didn't vote. But the fact that 95% of Althouse readers think the headline is a subliminal conspiracy theory to hurt Walker is pretty damn funny. Always the victim.
garage: "We are looking more and more like the Southern state every day though."
Not even close. Southern states have much higher %'s of minorities and immigrants (legal and otherwise).
Your lily-white backwater "cosmopolitan" enclave is certain to remain exactly that.
Scott Walker hits girls! And if she is also a lesbian, then it's a hate crime.
Little wonder Walker has to hide by using the fake name John Doe.
garage: "But the fact that 95% of Althouse readers think the headline is a subliminal conspiracy theory to hurt Walker is pretty damn funny."
Feel free to show your work for how you determined that 95% of Althouse "readers" think this is a conspiracy.
As far as the "conspiracy" is concerned, there's nothing secret about it. The dems are using violent imagery in their talking points to paint republicans as women beaters.
So, if it's not "conscious" on the part of the paper, it's just a coincidence that the headline dovetails perfectly with the dems chosen rhetoric at this time.
Just a coincidence.
Probably out of the Cincinnati office.
You don't think this "war on women" meme just materialzes out of thin air, do you?
These Dems with bylines have to write stories and headlines all the time to remind low-info voters who the villains are.
OK. Garage how about, "Scott Walker tells the truth on Mary Burke again."
Even using the verb attacks would be a fair headline. But "hits Mary" is like reading The Onion.
And speaking of "bribes"....
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/democrats-big-donors-2014-elections-111225.html?hp=t1
As I said in the 'cafe' thread before this topic started, 2 articles on the J-S's Newswatch today with the same 'hits' verbage.
"Republican Group Hits Burke..."
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/276465531.html
"Scott Walker Hits Mary Burke Again..."
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-hits-mary-burke-again-on-wording-of-campaign-passages-b99356455z1-276021391.html
Can't always blame the headline on the reporter, but 1 name shows up on both stories.
In the matter of liberal "journalism" I was just treated to a BBC bit on NPR which dealt with D'Sousa's conviction and sentencing. In about three minutes he as described as a "right winger" six times. Michael Moore with whom he was compared was described as an Oscar winner.
Really. You could not make it more obvious if you tried.
We are looking more and more like the Southern state every day though.
Can't be. Madison is over-populated by assholes.
Fen, I don't think Instapundit's site is having trouble. Have you tried another browser? Buggy caching can cause the sort of behavior you describe.
They must have decided the term "b*tch-slaps" was unsubtle.
"Buggy caching can cause the sort of behavior you describe."
Thanks Bob. I was starting to wonder if Maryland put Insty on a 24 hour delay or something ;)
Not only that, the videotape is being suppressed.
How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?
How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?
I'll remind you that Democrats blamed Sarah Palin for the shooting of Giffords due to having crosshairs on her state as a target for a seat takeover.
If your side cannot live by its own inane standards, you might want to change your standards. Otherwise, why should we give you double standards?
madisonfella: "How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?"
LOL
Conservative!
And did we not just deal with this "endorsed twice" nuance just the other day?
Bottom line: the entire democrat party establishment has shifted it's rhetoric to link republicans with violence against women symbology and the largest newspaper in WI just happens, coincidently, totally independently, to have it's headline writers create headlines that align perfectly with the dems latest rhetorical tact.
Nothing to see here folks.
Journolist was a fiction as well, wasn't it?
I'll remind you that Democrats blamed Sarah Palin for the shooting of Giffords due to having crosshairs on her state as a target for a seat takeover.
Yes, that is another example of whacked out crazy people acting crazy. Why are you trying to emulate that behavior?
If your side...
If I am responsible for everything said by everyone who has ever disagreed with your opinions then you are responsible for the threats against voters being made by this militia group, and many many other words and actions by those who have a different opinion than mine.
So the latest spin is that the MJS didn't actually endorse Scott Walker for Governor in two separate elections?
BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Better tighten down that tin foil hat Drago before the "entire democrat party establishment" shifts their invisible mind control beams towards you.
madisonfella: "Why are you trying to emulate that behavior?"
Could you expand your thoughts as to why noticing clear alignment in rhetoric between the dem party establishment and newspapers is equivalent to accusing someone of murder who had nothing to do with that act?
Thanks in advance for no coherent response.
madisonfella: "So the latest spin is that the MJS didn't actually endorse Scott Walker for Governor in two separate elections?"
No.
In fact, the last time this issue was raised I was the one who pointed out that the 2 endorsements was technically true.
As Ann pointed out (as did other posters), the fact that the second endorsement was in response to the recall and not the normal election cycle did in fact constitute a different sort of endorsement qualitatively.
I believe that the paper pointed out that the recall was inappropriate and for that reason alone the second endorsement was proffered.
damikesc is the one who made the comparison Drago, not I. And despite what the Blue Emu may say about me, damikesc and I are not the same person.
Theme:
Mary Burke
Won't Work.
See, first she steals her families great reputation created by building up a business while she snowboarded
Implies she's business friendly
Then she plans to steal Scott Walker's work building up a state with a balanced budget
Suggests she won't change Act 10
Then she outright plagiarizes her "economic plan" from work done by consultants in other states for other politicians.
As governor, she'd have to work for the people of Wisconsin. She doesn't know how to work (a natural-born lefty of these times.)
madisonfella: "Yes, that is another example of whacked out crazy people acting crazy."
Wow. That would include the entire left wing apparatus who involved themselves in smearing Palin with that libel.
If I am responsible for everything said by everyone who has ever disagreed with your opinions then you are responsible for the threats against voters being made by this militia group, and many many other words and actions by those who have a different opinion than mine.
...yet Walker is responsible for people he has no association with.
Notice the issue?
Hit me baby one more time
Wow. That would include the entire left wing apparatus who involved themselves in smearing Palin with that libel.
Exactly Drago. To those of us in the middle, you sound just as crazy as those wackos who said Palin pulled the trigger on Gifford.
You are no better than they are.
yet Walker is responsible for people he has no association with.
Who said that Walker was personally responsible for that militia group?
Also damikesc, couldn't help but notice that in a different thread you said that the militia group was "alleged" to have made plans to intimidate voters. Yet you didn't say that Walker "allegedly" has no association with that group, and instead made the very definitive claim that there is no association between the man and the group.
Given how carefully you choose your words, I have to ask if you know the Governor personally.
seeing as how Obama has slipped to 35% approval (if you add in the "somewhat approve") I think the Walker campaign should release a commercial showing both Burke and Obama at Harvard graduation ceremonies
Buggy caching can cause the sort of behavior you describe.
Now that's a line I need to use with a patient.
I voted no because this is a headline construct that has been used in politics previously.
"EMD said...
I voted no because this is a headline construct that has been used in politics previously."
Are you saying it's a case of plagiarism?
"I voted no because this is a headline construct that has been used in politics previously."
But who was the hitter and who was the hittee (hitee?) in those headlines?
If (and I stress "if") the media has one set of headlines for Dem politicians and one for Republicans that doesn't mean just because it was used before it's not intentional and not used selectively.
In fact, I would draw your attention to the ongoing curiosity (documented on numerous blogs over the years) of party affiliation often being absent or mentioned many paragraphs down in a story when the scoundrel in question is a Democrat but prominently featured at the top when it's a Republican. There's lots and lots of ways to steer things in the direction you want.
madisonfella: "You are no better than they are."
LOL
yeah. You are in the "middle" alright.
Because I happen to notice that another supposedly unbiased media organ has decided that it's cool to adopt the dem rhetorical talking point strategm I'm "no better" than those who purposely libeled a politician by claiming she was directly responsible for an attempted murder.
Yeah, that sounds equivalent.
Too funny.
Your "equivalence" tactic is precisely what someone in the middle would not do.
QED
You're the one who first made the comparison Drago, not I.
Will you tell us some more about how the entire democrat party establishment has total control over the very same newspaper that endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor or are you just going to try and distract everyone with the whole recall elections don't count when it comes to endorsements squirrel again?
My apologies. It was damikeinsc who first made that comparison, Drago later decided to make it appear like I did.
madisonfella said;
"To those of us in the middle"
You keep saying that as if it'll become true. No, you're too far left to be within eye sight of the middle. Repeating it won't draw you any closer.
Madisonfella, shouting from the parking lot that she's playing center field. Priceless.
"madisonfella said...
How paranoid does one have to be in order to believe that the largest conservative newspaper in Wisconsin, which endorsed Scott Walker twice for Governor, is putting subliminal Anti-Walker messages into their headlines?"
Tell you what Penguin, I will give you $10 for very Republican endorsed by the MJS, and you give me $10 for every Democrat. Deal?
No, you're too far left to be within eye sight of the middle.
It is easy to tell when you are cornered and desperate, because you start using pages from the Alnkinski playbook. I'm sure he would be really proud of the way you constantly try to personalize and polarize the targets.
And it doesn't matter how many different names you post under while making your accusations. You are still wrong about knowing me.
Also damikesc, couldn't help but notice that in a different thread you said that the militia group was "alleged" to have made plans to intimidate voters. Yet you didn't say that Walker "allegedly" has no association with that group, and instead made the very definitive claim that there is no association between the man and the group.
I ALSO didn't say Walker wasn't allegedly a member of the Communist Underground, either. I will comfortably say he isn't.
There is zero evidence even remotely attempting to be presented to tie him to this group, so I lack the time to address all insane hypotheticals.
Meanwhile, the evidence presented of this militia's "threat" are Facebook posts, which is almost adorable that people buy that as proof.
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So damikesc says that public threats to do something means nothing at all.
But then again, outside of his posts, there is zero evidence that damikesc actually exists. So why listen to him anyways?
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White women’s feminisms still center around equality, a point on which Traister and Shulevitz converge. Black women’s feminisms demand justice. There is a difference. One kind of feminism focuses on the policies that will help women integrate fully into the existing American system. The other recognizes the fundamental flaws in the system and seeks its complete and total transformation.
I think that "complete and total transformation" should include white Wisconsin politicianss with racist staff.
Ann's mileage may differ - though I don't know why.
Wait a minute,...
You are free to not pay attention.
And, no, i dont fret about.Facebook posts. Sorry if you do.
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