November 10, 2012

The FBI investigation that felled Petraeus "started with two women."

The NYT reports that "began with a complaint several months ago about 'harassing' e-mails sent by Paula Broadwell, Mr. Petraeus’s biographer, to an unidentified third person" ("not a family member or a government official"). Checking Broadwell's email, they "stumbled across" her affair with Petraeus.

The NYT source said: “People think that because it’s the C.I.A. director, it must involve bigger issues... Think of a small circle of people who know each other.”

So who is the second woman? Not Petraeus's wife because, we're told, it was "not a family member." But there's a "small circle of people." What woman would Broadwell "harass"?

ADDED: "Associates of Petraeus had received 'anonymous harassing emails' that were then traced to Broadwell... suggesting she may have found their names or addresses in his e-mail."

52 comments:

F said...

Another lover?

Patrick said...

In the movies, probably Thursday would have been the night when Petraeus would don his Dress uniform, take an antique pistol, and shoot himself somewhere along the George Washington parkway.

I'm glad that didn't happen. Even when people do remarkably stupid things, I feel bad for them when their actions become so public. Part of the "game," I know, but that cannot be easy. I especially feel bad for their families. This woman has two young children.

Emil Blatz said...

Double trouble!

bagoh20 said...

Damn those things are dangerous: women.

Hagar said...

Men are not the only ones to make fools of themselves when they reach a certain age.

jimbino said...

Just another reason why we should consider only single men and women for positions of top security.

Singles are expected to sleep around without "betraying" anybody.

Rich B said...

Why was the FBI brought into a case of harassing emails?

edutcher said...

The Gray Lady's turning him into Tiger Woods?

This thing is already silly enough.

Now that we've heard from Izvestia, Pravda will have to have something juicier tomorrow.

Maybe Petraeus was going to spill everything and his rep had to be destroyed.

We'll see.

Palladian said...

Damn those things are dangerous: women.

Yeah, not only do they fuck up careers and personal relationships, they fuck up entire nations and the futures of millions of people, as we discovered on Tuesday.

LilyBart said...


I just looked up Paula Broadwell's bio and realized:

This news broke on her 40th Birthday! ooof.

woof said...

I predict more mistresses are going to come forward and their lawyer Gloria Allred.

edutcher said...

Maybe it's the Hildabeast!

This one just gets better -
Hillary "turns down" a "request" to testify about Benghazi

YoungHegelian said...

Well, Broadwell may have been a good lay, but otherwise she seems as dumb as a box of rocks.

Harassing another woman via e-mail? Not immediately deleting emails from her lover, who was in a very public and sensitive position in a national security agency?

I mean, jeezo-peep, if you want to coo over the love letters, just download them and encrypt them for future reading. This woman has credentials out the wazoo! It's just amazing how our finest educational institutions just seem to be turning out example after example of folks who can't find their buttcheeks with both hands.

Howard said...

Palladian:

Love your uninhibited misogyny. Is the source of that latent vagina envy? Don't be depressed, you still have the workout photos of Paul Ryan to cherish.

Eric said...

"Associates of Petraeus had received 'anonymous harassing emails' that were then traced to Broadwell... suggesting she may have found their names or addresses in his e-mail."

The implication being, of course, this isn't the first time "Saint Petraeus" has done something like this. Plus, it's not like he came forward on his own - he resigned because he was caught.

wyo sis said...

Don't those people have enough work to do?

sydney said...

Well, Broadwell may have been a good lay, but otherwise she seems as dumb as a box of rocks.

Yes. I saw a description of her as "brilliant," but it seemed to be based only on her educational resume. She has attended some very fine schools. However, I am left wondering about the quality of these fine institutions if a Ph.D. candidate has to rely on a "co-writer" to write a biography of the guy who is part of her Ph.D. thesis. Not only that, I read the Amazon excerpts today and it is very poorly written, even with the professional help she got.

Aridog said...

Next Question: Will Holly Petraeus resign her job with the new military consumer financial affairs office within Treasury?

YoungHegelian said...

Last night when I heard that the title of Broadwell's biography of Petraeus was called "All In" I told the Mrs. "well, clearly, he was."

YoungHegelian said...

@sydney,

It's to the point now that when I hear someone has an Ivy League degree from after 1980, my first thought is "So, in what way is this guy/gal a fuck-up?"

Not good. Not good at all.

Carl said...

In the movies, probably Thursday would have been the night when Petraeus would don his Dress uniform, take an antique pistol, and shoot himself somewhere along the George Washington parkway.

Petraeus? Why him? Why not Broadwell? She's married, too, and for all we know she made the first move.

It's a little contemptible that even in this "liberated" age there seems to appear in most places an assumption that the general is responsible, and should suffer for his transgression, but the woman is...what? Too lightweight in the head, can't be expect to have a conscience or moral obligations? By definition always the victim of male sexual impulses, either has none of her own or can't be expect to control them?

I haven't heard anyone suggest Paula Broadwell shoot herself or even feel deeply ashamed of betraying her marriage and her children, while sabotaging his. Nor that she shouldn't be allowed to continue her career. Is it that journalists are known ethical slobs, can't be expected to adhere to the same standards as generals?

Or is it just sauce for the gander only? We should maybe reconsider that 19th Amendment.

edutcher said...

That last is very apt.

Sam L. said...

If they were the right ages, we could send them both a bottle of Heinz 57 steak sauce.

edutcher said...

PS Was talking about Young Hegelian's last line.

Patrick said...

Petraeus? Why him? Why not Broadwell? She's married, too, and for all we know she made the first move.

I didn't mean for my comment to be taken quite so seriously, and I especially did not mean to suggest (nor do I think I did) that the General kill himself. This ought to be clear from what I wrote ("I'm glad that didn't happen"). I've stated before the General is a good man who made a large mistake.

I was thinking specifically of the scene in a few good men when one of the Officers kills himself, but adding the George Washington Parkway for some flair.

Discussion of how movies have handled this in the past should not imply anything about the woman involved. She is a married woman, fooling around with a married man. I've heard no one suggest she has no responsibility for the consequences. To the extent anyone has said that, I disagree.

Oshbgosh said...

Petraeus is being set up to be the fall guy for Bengahzi. Nice Obama/Clinton hit job.

Peter said...

I've noticed something interesting in the course of my extensive research into women's grooming practices. It's my best guess that about 75% of women are completely hairless. If, however, a photo or video shows a woman being, ahem, penetrated, there's just about a 100% chance of her being hairless.

Coketown said...

"The FBI investigation that felled Petraeus "started with two women.""

They must have learned that from the Secret Service. I hope these ones got paid.

Nora said...

If FBI was involved than it was not just an affair Petraeus had to resign for. However, I question the timing of the resignation, i.e. directly after it became known that Obama won re-election.

caplight45 said...

Starting to sound like she was a couple of Depends short of stalking.

West Point grad. As Someone said yesterday, she should have known better.

caplight45 said...

Patrick:
One of the Secret Service guys caught in the prostitution scandal took the pipe past week. I know the family of an Air Force Colonel who took the rope after he confessed to adultery with another officer. It isn't just in the movies.

BarryD said...

"In the movies, probably Thursday would have been the night when Petraeus would don his Dress uniform, take an antique pistol, and shoot himself somewhere along the George Washington parkway."

There was a movie about the Clinton Administration? I guess then the story would involve him shooting himself in the head 6 times...

Hagar said...

The FBI was involved because of the "threatening e-mails." After that, it would be a question of who knew whom within the DoJ, DoD, CIA, and State Dept.

Patrick said...

Caplight, I don't doubt that you're correct. Sad for all involved.

Patrick said...

I wasn't going to go the Vince Foster route... I swear!

Hagar said...

And this crap goes back to the entire "Sergeant Schultz war." It is not just Benghazi.

David Davenport said...

Check out Ms. Broad Well's video personage and persona:

The Daily Show Interview With David Petraeus' Biographer Is Extremely Awkward In Hindsight

( Credit to Larry Auster for pointing to this on his View From the Right blog. )

David said...

Sorry, this story stinks like a three day dead fish.

NYT has gone down the checklist of issues that might adversely affect Obama in this scandal and have exonerated him an every one. to wit:

1. White House knew nothing (nothing!) until election eve.
2. Obama knew nothing until election day after.
3. No important intelligence information was compromised.
4. Nobody but the FBI (and some random person who called Eric Cantor's office) knew anything about the investigation. Just think of a small circle of people who know each other, check your skepticism at the door and sing la-la-la-la.
5. Therefore nobody used this to apply any kind of pressure to Petraeus. Least of all the White House. Perish that thought.

There was a day when i might have assumed that the NYT story was likely to be accurate. That day is long gone.

David said...

The Daily Show interview was awkward at the time. She's a piece of work, and he picked her.

mrkwong said...

Let's see...White House about the time of his appointment as DCI:

Jarrett or some other Chicago hack: "He's popular. And with this we can make him go boom anytime we want."

Obama: "Agreed. Let's go ahead with the appointment. We've got him under our thumb."

kentuckyliz said...

If you look at Broadwell's photo long enough (the one where she's in her living room, seated, holding her book), she starts looking like the Glenn Close character from Fatal Attraction.

Gives new meaning to "embedded"

kentuckyliz said...

It sounds like Broadwell's sent the other other woman a scarily threatening e-mail from Petraeus' e-mail account, enough for the other other woman to seek investigation and protection from the FBI. Given Petraeus' position, it's not something you can just call the local police about.

creeley23 said...

Broadwell and co-writer are close to the terrible of Obama's memoir. Here's the first page of "All In." Love that bang-up opener and all the overloaded details packed in! It reads like a bad military thriller.

What seems to be true about Ivy Leaguers is that they can't tell when they are bad at something because the world is so busy sucking up to them. Obama himself is the supreme example.

General David H. Petraeus sat deep in thought as he made the short drive from the Pentagon to the White House. The next three hours could change the course of his life, the course of a war, maybe even the course
of the nation. He hadn't a clue what was going to happen. The only comment he made to Chief Warrant Officer Four Mark Howell, his personal security officer since the surge in Iraq, was that he hoped General Stan McChrystal had survived his meeting with President Obama. McChrystal, the four-star commander of the war in Afghanistan, had been called back to Washington the previous day for comments he and his aides had made to a reporter from Rolling Stone that some thought came close to insubordination. On this hot and muggy Wednesday morning, June 23, 2010, McChrystal had reported to the White House an hour and a half before Petraeus. By the time Petraeus's black GMC Yukon Denali pulled up at the West Wing security gate, McChrystal had already come and gone. Howell and the rest of the general's inner circle knew they could he heading for Afghanistan if McChrystal had been fired. "We were in a state of denial," Howell said.

Once inside the White House, Petraeus went to a small office down the hall from the Situation Room to see his longtime friend Doug Lute, a retired Army lieutenant general who served as senior adviser and the National Security Council's coordinator for Afghanistan-Pakistan policy. As head of the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM)—and McChrystal's boss—Petraeus...

JAL said...

For some weird reason Patricia Cornwell came to mind.

She ended up in the middle of some trully bizarre FBI connected love triangle. Her books are a combination of fantasy and real life. (Although there is that Charlotte connection ... Mmmm. Naw.)

Know it isn't her, but wonder about this biographer.

Clyde said...

And the book title was All In? (It's up to #106 in Books on Amazon right now.) Oh, the irony! As one commenter there noted, that has to be the biggest unintentional title double entendre in publishing history.

And the timing? Purely coincidental, I'm sure! Right after the election, right before the hearings. I'm sure that Petraeus and the Mrs. will be off to some marriage counseling camp in Idaho or Montana until the hearings are over. Also interesting how Hillary will be "unavailable" to testify.

Forward! To our glorious Soviet American future!

(Although at least the Soviets didn't declare war on coal... And they still had a space program...)

rastajenk said...

Well, Clyde, there's still Jerry Sandusky's Touched.

kentuckyliz said...

On Twitter, the side by side pictures of the wife and the mistress are being tweeted, with the implication, would you blame Petraeus?

I googled her picture, and she is married to a doctor, and he is a young, attractive, fit man. Implication being, Paula are you crazy.



Her biography should be called All In Yet?

ElPresidenteCastro said...

And so the American Coriolanus falls as Barack and Hillary sit at the piano singing, "Mr. We could use a man like Herbert Hoover again."

mtrobertsattorney said...

The FBI reports to the Justice Department. Eric Holder must have known about the investigation. And if Holder knew, Obama knew.

Xmas said...

Some FBI folks are leaking that the FBI was monitoring Patraeus's affair for months. He had sent thousands(!) of emails to the nice young lady after she broke off the affair when he became head of the CIA. When the affair started in Afghanistan, Intelligence folks were worried that his affair had compromised him.

Hassell Anderson said...

Who sent Paula Broadwell?

Hassell Anderson said...

It is remarkable how many things happen that Obama has no knowledge of. He didn't know the real Jeremiah Wright. He didn't know about Fast and Furious. He didn't know about the Benghazi security problems. He didn't know about the Broadwell investigation.

Ignorance is power, it would seem.