May 30, 2011

"Sarah Palin and her family sneaked out in Washington on Sunday night for what she called an 'incognito' tour of the national monuments..."

Reports the NYT:
Details of the visit were posted Monday morning on her Web site, along with pictures that show her, her husband, Todd, and her daughters enjoying stops at the Lincoln Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial and the World War II Memorial.

In one picture, Ms. Palin and Mr. Palin are sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, looking out toward the Washington Monument, like any other couple might. In another, the whole family is seen standing below a part of the World War II Memorial that says “Alaska,” their home state.
Beautiful, innovative unrolling of what is presumably her candidacy for President.



Sarah, she's just like you, visiting the monuments, posing by the name of her state, wearing a visor and a baggy black T-shirt. I love the way she's slouching as if she's not thinking about her looks at all, while the other women are doing the photo-pose-y thing and the husband takes the figure-flattering 3/4 position and sucks in his gut.

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Kevin Walsh said...

The cops ejected a flashmob at the Jefferson Memorial and cuffed the leader. I wonder if it was because Palin was supposed to show up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PDhjNF9eUQ&feature=share

Shanna said...

So they didn't go at night? That's the best time to tour the monuments! Also heh at Todd doing the 3/4 gut suck thing. I love Todd.

Palin's outfit is really casual.

Big Mike said...

And of course she had been a Democrat the family would have "slipped away" instead of the past tense of the much more negative "sneak."

BTW, when did the past tense of sneak change from "snuck"?

FWIW I think she's making a bid for the Reagan Democrats, and I think she's going to get them.

Freeman Hunt said...

"Beautiful, innovative unrolling" of a self-promotion campaign designed to sell tickets and books and to raise Palin's profile for television shows and the like.

Milwaukee said...

What the author of that piece, MICHAEL D. SHEAR, does not realize is that Sarah is one of us, and he is not. (Author's name is in all capitals in his by-line.)

Again, the use of "Ms." This is insulting. Why should Mrs. Palin talk to a reporter or a newspaper which insists on insulting her? Does Michael D. Shear realize that he and his newspaper are being played? They are giving her free articles promoting her. The haters won't change their minds, but others will read the message being sent. Sarah is one of us.

As for the snide Althouse comment about Todd "sucking in his gut", he is a man, and that is his right. Back off.

The Drill SGT said...

Not a huge Plain fan here, but:

You don't think a fairly average American family would visit the monuments if she wasn't running?

posing in the NY MMA would be posing.

In front of your state memorial? She has a son in the Army for crikey. She can be patriotic without it being faked for cameras, unlike many pols

rhhardin said...

Nothing at the Nixon monument.

Freeman Hunt said...

And to promote a movie. I didn't know there was a movie.

In recent days, she and her husband, Todd Palin, purchased a $1.7 million house in Scottsdale, Ariz., giving her a base of operation in the lower 48 states. She also rehired two logistics aides she had dismissed, a Palin aide said Wednesday.
In addition, a full-length feature film focused largely on her time as governor is in the final stages of editing by conservative filmmaker Stephen K. Bannon.


She just bought a $1.7 million dollar house, and she's looking to drop her career and run for President? No.

ironrailsironweights said...

Let's see ... the fact that she is so casual about her appearance in photographs ... does that also mean she is casual about her grooming practices? Could well be. After all, when she goes off on these caribou hunts, she probably doesn't pack along her Lady Gillette.

Peter

AllenS said...

I've also visited those sites, and never once did it occur to me to run for President.

Mary Beth said...

Big Mike, sneaked is the past tense of sneak, snuck is the newer one.

Shouting Thomas said...

How do you know that Todd has a gut that needs to be sucked in?

Mom is prettier and more shapely than the daughters. Wonder what kind of family dynamics that produces?

How is that possible?

AllenS said...

Sarah, she's just like you, visiting the monuments

Yeah, I guess she is. She's evidently not like you, if the you has never had an inclination to visit those places.

Lucius said...

I'm on the fence whether to call this the beginning of the Presidential run, or a well-timed blitz to become sitting "Reagan-in-waiting" and kingmaker of the GOP.

If the latter, the logic is: do a mega-Colin Powell '96 play that makes people really *think* you're gonna do it. It raises the stakes, and the 'price' she commands for staying out. The primary contenders have to contend for her approval. The larger public is kept guessing. She gets to remain elusive, a 'what if?' that grows in magnitude over time. Holding out the idea that she *could*--someday-- actually run becomes its own kind of momentum; it confers an 'elder statesman' quality on her. In essence, it becomes almost a kind of office she's holding, a kind of resume-padder. If she's a kingmaker for 2012, that's another notch on her belt, like "CIA Director 1976-77."

Then she can feint into the Arizona Senate race. Or she can bargain for a Cabinet seat. Or-- like Reagan '76, she's a 'why didn't we . . .' of sorts, even without running.

Of course: if she runs, loses the nom, she *is* Reagan '76 if the GOP loses; still a player if the GOP wins. If she runs, wins: haha, she's Prez.

The dismal scenario is, get nom, lose. Almost impossible for a Nixon-like comeback after that. At most, she becomes a Bryant-like standard-bearer for center-right populism, but one almost certainly doomed to be barred from nominations or some chestnut like the SecState. Maybe another Goldwater in the Senate, though? But-- and I'm not saying this to be cynical-- I don't think a "Conscience of a Conservative" is going to be trophy enough to console her. She wants some kind of feifdom.

Lucius said...

Damn William Cullen Bryant. Let's say W. J. Bryan, shall we?

LarsPorsena said...

AllenS said...

" I've also visited those sites, and never once did it occur to me to run for President."

I was just there last month doing the same things and posing for the same pics with my family. My presidential ambitions have remained in check.

AllenS said...

Lars,

I guess we have a lot of self control.

LOL

Shouting Thomas said...

Lucius, you need to calm down and quit trying to imagine a profound understanding of the Divine Sarah's motivations.

Maybe she's just having fun, enjoying the attention and enjoying making money.

Maybe she's just living from minute to minute and deciding what she's going to do based on the opportunities that are presented.

I seriously doubt that she's spending her time with furrowed brow... like you... worrying this thing to death.

vet66 said...

What drives the elitist snobs crazy is the Palin represents the unwashed masses in the flyover states who see nothing wrong with having fun and being proud of what they are.

We recently met the Ride For The Wall crew as they gassed up in Marana, AZ. It was informative to study who did the honking and waving as close to a hundred motorcyles and support vehicles exited I-10 for gas. Truck drivers honked long and loud. Local families waved and stopped to give thanks and one car load of folks on vacation stopped to ask what was going on? I told her that Viet Nam Veterans had returned from war and had not been treated well by our country. Each year we veterans and other patriots provide our own recognition on a trip to the "Healing Wall". Just at that moment, two Apache helicopters flew over the gas station, circled, tipped their rotors and flew back to Phoenix.

The children understood and it gave their parents a moment to reflect. The Palin family understands us and that is why the media hate her.

chickenlittle said...

AllenS said...

Yeah, I guess she is. She's evidently not like you, if the you has never had an inclination to visit those places.

Zing!

___________
wv = "hostster" Let's take this one apart. The root is "ho." Add the superlative ending "st" gets us to "host." The suffix "ster" connotes patronizingly mild derision as found in "oldster" or "youngster." So there we have it: ho-st-ster.
It's either that or a mispronounced "holster" in an ebonic spaghetti western.

madAsHell said...

I'm looking at the photo from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial......Why is the reflecting pool empty on Memorial Day Weekend??

...another unforced error!!

CBCD said...

I live about 8 miles from Antietam Battlefield. I am looking forward to seeing Sarah Palin at Antietam the way a tween girl looks forward to seeing Justin Bieber. As in 'OMG OMG OMG it's Sarah Palin I love her so much OMG OMG OMG!'

Oligonicella said...

There's no "as if" going on.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

After all, when she goes off on these caribou hunts, she probably doesn't pack along her Lady Gillette.

Hope spring eternal!!

Col Mustard said...
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Col Mustard said...

Palin, the communications major is da bomb as a communicator.

Obama, the constitutional law scholar, bombs as the nation's highest constitutional official.

So, which one needs to go back to school?

chickenlittle said...

Careful Col. Mustard, you'll rankle the cankles.

Sixty Grit said...

CBCD - I used to live in Pleasant Valley - one of the most beautiful places I have ever been. Hagerstown, where I also lived, not so much.

Big Mike said...

The Palin family understands us and that is why the media hate her.

That's part of it. There's another part, and that is that she holds to her convictions. It would have been easy to abort a Down's child, and to help her unwed daughter abort, and it would have made life easier for her family and more comfortable as a politician. But she believes that abortion is wrong and so both pregnancies went to term. That, as much as anything else, is what frightens the liberal press.

edutcher said...

Tell me again how dumb she is.

Shouting Thomas said...

How do you know that Todd has a gut that needs to be sucked in?

Mom is prettier and more shapely than the daughters. Wonder what kind of family dynamics that produces?

How is that possible?


Todd is part Indian (American). Indian women can, like Tahitian women, be a bit thick through the trunk.

Just as Sir Richard Burton noticed that black African women tended to be "steatopygous, with haunches of prodigious size".

Latinas seem to be more hourglass, Nordic women more top-heavy.

Phil 3:14 said...

"Beautiful, innovative unrolling" of a self-promotion campaign designed to sell tickets and books and to raise Palin's profile for television shows and the like.

Boy, when you've lost the "Freeman Hunts" of this world, you've lost.

But if that disturbs you, stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes tight and shout "ELITIST SNOBS,ELITIST SNOBS,ELITIST SNOBS!!!" over and over again.

And all will be right with the world

Peter Hoh said...

Freeman, this looks too much like the start of a presidential campaign. The movie is part of that, not proof that she's primarily interested in branding herself as a conservative media star.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I suspect that you are viewing these events as someone who doesn't want Palin to run.

Those who want her to run are positively giddy about these indications that she will run, and I think they will be sorely disappointed if she doesn't follow through as they imagine she will.

Lucius said...

@Shouting Thomas: Oh, my brow isn't too furrowed here. I can be happy with most anything that results in a palace takeover (by which I do mean, peaceful transition from the ballot box) in 2012.

If anything: I'm trying to curb *some* of the hyperventilation that suggests Palin will simply, inevitably win because she's mystically in tune with 'the people.'

Yes, she does have a genuine, strong connection with large swaths of the masses. Yes, she can be a fantastic projector for the vox populi.

But politics does require calculation too. And the Presidency requires statesmanship, a quality no more guaranteed to the morally purging charismatic leaders of the center-right than of the center-left (Carter and Obama).

I think it'd be easy for a President Palin to do better than those two by sheer force of a) better convictions and b) greater decisiveness of character.

Unfortunately a lot of this RINO-baiting from some quarters seems to suggest everything besides Jacksonian moral leadership can be delegated to the Cabinet flunkies. How is the left-wing version of that working out?

I think Palin was a strong governor, strong campaigner, and a great media personality. None of this quite tells me, though, how she would play chess against Brezhnev.

SPN Headlines said...

Sara Palin’s Tattoo Appointment Went Terribly Awry…..story at:
http://spnheadlines.blogspot.com/2011/05/palin-tattoo-session-goes-terribly-awry.html

Jon said...

Althouse said: "Beautiful, innovative unrolling of what is presumably her candidacy for President."

"Presumably"? Gullible Althouse.

Intrade betting currently puts the odds that Palin will run at 40%.

ironrailsironweights said...

Indian women can, like Tahitian women, be a bit thick through the trunk.
Just as Sir Richard Burton noticed that black African women tended to be "steatopygous, with haunches of prodigious size".
Latinas seem to be more hourglass, Nordic women more top-heavy.


Tragically, women of all ethnic backgrounds* have something in common these days. Something very, very bad.

* = with the occasional exception of East Asian women.

Peter

Peter Hoh said...

Jon, do you know the difference between "presumably" and "definitely"?

victoria said...

Nothing she does is off the cuff, it is all meant for publicity. Her "sneaking away" was carefully orchestrated for all to know that she is a "real American". What does that make the rest of us who don't find her appealing? Not real Americans? I am as American as she is.


Vicki from Pasadena

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
What does that make the rest of us who don't find her appealing? Not real Americans? I am as American as she is.

Quick Vickie scream, “DON’T QUESTION MY PATRIOTISM!” Touch a sore spot, did they?

Terrye said...

Milwaukee:

Is Sarah one of us? Do we all have entourages and reality TV shows and dedicated followers who think we are perfect?

I don't think so.

I was reading this silly little piece at WaPo about how some of the Rolling Thunder people were less than pleased to see Palin. I am sure Wapo is biased. I don't doubt that, but I also don't doubt that some of those guys felt that Palin was using them as a photo op.

So now we have the tour that will go on and on and on...and there will be weeks or months of speculation as to whether or not Sarah Palin will run...and her followers will tell us all over and over again that her bad numbers don't mean a thing and that the only people that don't love her are elitists and RINOs and liberals and all the other candidates suck and are elitists and RINOs etc.

It is getting a little tedious.

I will vote for whoever is running against Barack Obama..but there are a lot of Independents out there and even some Republicans who say they do not want to vote for Palin. And I doubt if using national monuments as a back drop for family/political pictures will help with that.

Terrye said...

Big Mike:

Palin is not the only person who did not abort a downs syndrome child. I know other people who have kept children that some people would have aborted and some of those people are Democrats. Not everything is political. When people make personal decisions like that, a lot of things come into play. After all, the Kennedys had a child in the family who was retarded. They could have gotten rid of her and did not. That does not mean I would vote for a Kennedy.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Her "sneaking away" was carefully orchestrated for all to know that she is a "real American". What does that make the rest of us who don't find her appealing? Not real Americans? I am as American as she is.

Perhaps her "sneaking away" is nothing more than their desire to have some family time in Washington DC at the historic monument without the carrion crows of the media flocking and shitting all over them.

As to the 'real American' meme....now you have it victoria.

I'm just as much a "working family" as a teacher in a Union or any other public employee union member.

However, whenever the 'working families' are supported by the media or the subject of progressive organized protesters....it is ONLY in the context of being UNIONIZED. The rest of us schmucks who work 6 to 7 days a week in our businesses don't count as working I suppose because we aren't "real" workers unless we belong to a Union.

Fun being excluded from the meme...isn't it?

btw: you ever let your husband buy that book?

RLB_IV said...

Scottsdale is a good a place as any for a Western White House.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
I will vote for whoever is running against Barack Obama..but there are a lot of Independents out there and even some Republicans who say they do not want to vote for Palin. And I doubt if using national monuments as a back drop for family/political pictures will help with that.

Boo-Hoo she can’t:
1) Get nomination;
2) Win the General.
Let’s just see how about it? Seminar Caller….”I’m all for the GOP BUT,…” Yeah, yeah heard that all prior to Iraq to, “Yes, Saddam is evil, BUT….”

*WOW* SO Romney and Pawlenty and Cain are running…what are THEY doing this weekend? Geeeeee, I don’t know….what’s PALIN doing this weekend? I sure do know, all I can say is for someone who is “unelectable” she sure does get the coverage.

Terrye said...

victoria:

When Mitch Daniels was thinking about a run, he was not good enough for the Palinistas. Never mind the fact that he had one of the most conservative records in the country..never mind the fact that was a successful politician with a high approval rating in a midwestern state...no...the socalled elite liked him, hence was not a real American. He was not one of us. Mitch with his harley was not one of us...but Palin getting her picture taken on a bike in Rolling Thunder is. That is how they look at things.

There can be only one.

Terrye said...

Joe:

Yes, let's see about it. Let's see if Palin can actually win. Her numbers are not good. Independents do not like her...and thus far she has not even said she is running.

So maybe she can win these people over, anything is possible. But I honestly think that her followers are not helping her by being so antagonistic with anyone and everyone who has any kind of criticism of her.

Terrye said...

Dust Bunny Queen:

Oh for heavens sakes, she announces the bus tour..she is out there promoting it...to turn around and talk about "the carrion crows of the media flocking" seems weird to me.

If she wanted to go, she could always have gone anytime without telling the whole country in advance that she is going. I mean really.

mccullough said...

Why did the Palins post these pictures on their website?

The Crack Emcee said...

DBQ,

btw: you ever let your husband buy that book?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

You're getting tiresome, with this idea we think she's "perfect" and we're her 'followers", etc. Get you shit in check and engage with reality:

We are not Obama voters.

edutcher said...

ironrailsironweights said...

Tragically, women of all ethnic backgrounds* have something in common these days. Something very, very bad.

* = with the occasional exception of East Asian women.


Not if they let it all hang out.

RLB_IV said...

Scottsdale is a good a place as any for a Western White House.

Nice country out there.

Democrats don't have Western (or Southern or Northern) White Houses unless they mooch it from some rich Demo.

Zero doesn't have one.

Just like Willie.

mccullough said...

Why did the Palins post these pictures on their website?

The same reason Ann Althouse posts her pictures on her website?

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

When Sarah Palin blows it, I will be the first to say so. Until then, I - and, I'm sure, everyone else - is happy to see someone we can admire in this age when the cynics tell us such people don't exist.

You wanna root for TPaw or whatever - go - I won't be with you because I'm an independent thinker who will fight along side (not "follow") those I respect.

And about that "follow" quip, and all this other cult talk your kind are putting on us - I know cultism better than anyone here. How dare you stick that shit in my face. Where the fuck were you people in in 2007-8? What in the fuck do you know about any of it? Not a Gawd damned thing.

You never have and you never will, otherwise you'd be as pissed about it, in other contexts, as I am.

You fucking poser.

mccullough said...

Crack,

Given that Palin has no proposals and no record of implementing fiscal reform/ spending cuts/reducing size of government, how are her followers any different than Obama's.

W. was inexperienced lightweight, Obama inexperienced lightweight, and Palin is no different. How about supporting someone who can do the job, and not someone who makes us feel good about ourselves? Time to break the Cult of Personality cycle Obama's hardcore supporters started

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
Yes, let's see about it. Let's see if Palin can actually win. Her numbers are not good. Independents do not like her...and thus far she has not even said she is running.

More, “I’d like Palin, but her fanz…” Whatever, another “seminar meme,” “It’s NOT MY FAULT I won’t vote for Palin, it’s YOUR fault.” See it all the time….

We’ll see, the response is, “In March 1980 Carter had a comfortable 25 point lead over Reagan.” Is this 1980, no-every situation is historically unique…is Obama Carter, mayhap…is Palin Reagan, No-she’s more to the Right publically than Reagan could be, Yes-she could be-electorally. It’s seventeen months out…we’ll have to see.

But I surely don’t think “Independents” (If they truly are Independents) are going to flock to the Obama banner IF:
1) Unemployment is greater than 8%
2) Wages are flat or DECLINING due to inflation or high gas prices;
3) Inflation gets above 3-4 %.
As “Conservatives” are the SINGLE largest group (North of 30%), self-identified, politically Palin doesn’t need to get that many “Independents”.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
Given that Palin has no proposals and no record of implementing fiscal reform/ spending cuts/reducing size of government, how are her followers any different than Obama's.

1) 12 BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS…
2) Endorsement of Paul Ryan’s Road Map.
Thos may mean nothing to McCullough.

Paul said...

Freeman; Want to bet? She's running, and the idea that a lot of people, especially jealous women, have that it's all about self promotion and a latent narcissism says more about you than Sarah. She cares more about her country than herself, and she knows what's wrong with America.

And what's right with it too.

Peter Hoh said...

Paul, are you really accusing Freeman of disliking Palin because she's jealous of her?

Really?

traditionalguy said...

McCullough....Every thing you accuse Palin of doing to us poor rubes is identical to what that Virginia fake General was accused of doing to us in 1777-78. That Washington creep had made himself first in the hearts of his countrymen, unlike the elite military men plotting to dump him and negotiate with the British. RINOs are always available whenever we lose sight of that one courageous leader worthy of our trust.

Paul said...

Maybe so Peter, maybe so. Regardless, her "it's all about self promotion" meme is right out of the jealous female playbook.

Or libtard playbook.

Take your pick.

Shanna said...

. Her "sneaking away" was carefully orchestrated for all to know that she is a "real American".

It’s silly to read anything into a monument tour with the fam. Come on. Everybody does that when they go to DC. Even people who live there go. The monuments are awesome (although they really need to go at night).

Those who want her to run are positively giddy about these indications that she will run

It’s all nails when you’re a hammer…I’m with Freeman on this, unless she actually does enter the field I’m going with ‘not running’. I could see some sort of play for Senator of Arizona in the future that might lead to a Presidential run down the line.

Peter Hoh said...

Okay, we've fallen down the rabbit hole. Palin is George Washington, and Freeman is hatin' on Palin 'cause she's jealous, or liberal, or both.

The Crack Emcee said...

mccullough,

Crack,

Given that Palin has no proposals and no record of implementing fiscal reform/ spending cuts/reducing size of government, how are her followers any different than Obama's.


We're looking for something different than you are.

Shit, I could cut the government and I've got no set proposals. But I also know the difference between what's important and what I'm told is important.

I'm looking for character - which Obama ain't got, has never had, and it was a quality never looked for by those who supported him - that's the difference.

Paul said...

Joe makes the point that most are overlooking. Obama has a big role to play in his reelection too, and the worse off the nation is come election time the easier it will be for ANY Republican to beat him.

Frankly I don't see things getting anything but worse under his stewardship between now and then.

The Crack Emcee said...

Paul,

Freeman; Want to bet? She's running, and the idea that a lot of people, especially jealous women, have that it's all about self promotion and a latent narcissism says more about you than Sarah. She cares more about her country than herself, and she knows what's wrong with America.

Lay off. Freeman's views have me raising my eyebrows as well, but she's a serious thinker and I'll give her a wide berth. When palin declares, I have no doubt she'll know which way is up and do the right thing:

Freeman Hunt is nobody's fool.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Oh for heavens sakes, she announces the bus tour..she is out there promoting it...to turn around and talk about "the carrion crows of the media flocking" seems weird to me.


Just because Palin announced a public bus tour doesn't mean that she MUST have media coverage 24-7. Coverage for the public part of the tour.... sure, why not. After all that is the point of the tour, to highlight the organizations and places that promote America and have historical significance.

However, the family deserves some down time and privacy and the ability to be alone, like normal people. Just like movie stars who also deserve to be left alone to have personal time.

You probably think that because she is doing this tour, they should be covering her when she is taking a dump, brushing her teeth or shopping for groceries.

Paul said...

"Okay, we've fallen down the rabbit hole. Palin is George Washington, and Freeman is hatin' on Palin 'cause she's jealous, or liberal, or both."

Don't be obtuse. We know Freeman's not a lib. We know she's good looking, but she's not Sarah Palin good looking, and she is a female. Wouldn't be the first time a hottie got twisted by a hotter hottie.

No one thinks Palin is George Washington, but some of us see her values, courage, and charisma as a winning formula for steering the nation away from the cliff it's rushing towards.

Is that really so hard for you to grasp?

Paul said...

"Lay off. Freeman's views have me raising my eyebrows as well, but she's a serious thinker and I'll give her a wide berth."

Exactly. That's why I suspect we're not dealing with thinking here.

DADvocate said...

It Todd sucking in his gut? With his lifestyle, he may not have to.

Ricardo said...

Let's take a closer look at that gut!

The Crack Emcee said...

Paul,

We know Freeman's not a lib. We know she's good looking, but she's not Sarah Palin good looking,....

Whoa - she isn't? I've stayed away from discussing Freeman's looks, because I don't tend to think that way, but, to me, she's the beauty.

There's something wrong with, both, your mind and your eyes.

Terrye said...

Dust Bunny Queen:

So why not make the tour quietly months ago without any releases to the press? That monument did not just appear there over night..it has been there for some time you know.

This is the thing..I used to just love Palin and I would still vote for her, but I think she likes the media attention and uses it for her benefit. Over the last couple of years it seems to me that Palin spends a lot of time promoting herself and that seems kind of odd for someone who claims they want anonymity.

edutcher said...

mccullough said...

Crack,

Given that Palin has no proposals and no record of implementing fiscal reform/ spending cuts/reducing size of government, how are her followers any different than Obama's.

W. was inexperienced lightweight, Obama inexperienced lightweight, and Palin is no different.


2 term governor of Texas and the second largest economy count the same as a social pass and an Affirmative Action hire?

Governor of Alaska, mayor of its fifth-largest town, small businesswoman, and someone who challenged her state's corrupt establishment count the same as a failed community organizer and hack, placeholder politician?

Now you know why he said he wanted Daniels, Mr "I couldda been a contenduh", to run.

Daniels was gutsy only with his Republican-dominated legislature. He's no Scott Walker, Chris Cristie, or John Kasich.

caplight said...

Good, Crack is finally up.We really need to relocate him from the left coast.

Freeman, are you being serious or facetious? I can't tell.

Paul said...

Crack,

Your opinion. I'd wager a minority opinion too.

traditionalguy said...

Freeman is sticking to the opinion of many women who first saw her performance at the GOP convention. They still cannot believe that a woman with that much attractiveness could be a genuine anything. So be it. But that is like saying the only game in town is seduction of the strong men by crafty women. That is one well known game...but I know from experiences that there are also some women who desire to win games for the sake of defeating dangerous people and then do good to others to rub it in.

Terrye said...

The Crack Emcee:

I see, I say something you don't like about Palin and I become a fucking poser. Those were your words.

I never said you could not support Palin, I just voiced an opinion, last time I looked I had a right to do that.

Sarah Palin is a very gifted politician, if she gets the nomination I will vote for her. But that does not change the fact that there are things about her that seem less than genuine to me.

And during the midterms she supported some candidates who did not do very well and that makes me wonder if she has the kind of appeal it takes to win a general election.. She also supported Rand Paul in Ky..and he turned around and voted with the Democrats and Olympia Snowe on the Ryan bill. She is not responsible for all his votes, obviously..but then again that just points out that libertarians are not conservatives.

So, if I am a fucking poser...then you are a nasty little man who likes to say things to people on the internet that he would not have the balls to say face to face.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Until Palin says she is running for President, I am assuming she is doing what she says she is doing, which is to tour "
historical sites that were key to the formation, survival and growth of the United States of America."

While I think that a Palin run for President would have more vitality than a Romney or Gingrich or Guliani (white bread cream cheese candidates) and may even galvanize the base.... right now, I more see her as a "rain maker".

I would love to see a Palin candidacy if nothing else because it would make the libs heads spin faster than Linda Blair's did in the Exorcist. More important than that we MUST get Obama out of office, no matter who it takes. Palin would be good, but then there are others that Palin may throw her support behind. (cough/christy)

Palin has shown the ability to control the dialogue in new an innovative ways and to bring the debate into focus. Brass tacks if you will.

Perhaps this is what this tour is about. Making us and making the prospective GOP boring, ultra safe, cucumber sandwich candidates focus on standing up for issues instead of weaseling their way through the system.

Make them get some brass balls for a change. Maybe Sarah can lend them hers.

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

This is the thing..I used to just love Palin and I would still vote for her, but I think she likes the media attention and uses it for her benefit. Over the last couple of years it seems to me that Palin spends a lot of time promoting herself and that seems kind of odd for someone who claims they want anonymity.

jesus, you're tripping. She's a politician. Of course, she wants media attention. But she's also a normal human being with a family - she has a right to her life.

I find this same thing in the cult world: you layer your views on top of people and insist that's what they are. We think she's "perfect" - because you say so. We're "followers" - because you say so. I'll ask again:

Where were you in 2007-8 and what do you say about all the other examples of cult infiltration in society?

if the answers are you didn't say shit in 2007-8 and you have no comment on the rest, then shut the fuck up.

You're full of shit.

TWM said...

I have a picture just like that in front of the Tennessee panel. It's hard not to like this woman - unless you're a leftist.

mccullough said...

Good luck to Palin's followers. She seems to make them feel better about themselves and really sticks it to those who look down on them. That's all that matters.

The Crack Emcee said...

Paul,

Crack,

Your opinion. I'd wager a minority opinion too.


Naw, your mind's pretty warped, dude.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
This is the thing..I used to just love Palin and I would still vote for her, but I think she likes the media attention and uses it for her benefit.
Good “seminar move” “I used to love Palin” “Rush I’m a long-time listener and Conservative, BUT….” You mean a POLITICIAN might like the limelight and use it for their ADVANTAGE??? The DICKENS you say…Why I had never thought of that, I mean that nice Mr. Romney, nor the very nice and polite Mr. Pawlenty, nor our current POTUS EVER do that….It puts Palin in WHOLE NEW LIGHT…she uses the Media to highlight herself and her positions!!!!! You need to get a PhD Committee together, this is ORIGINAL and Ground-breaking! I see a Doctorate in Poli Sci with your name on it, but act quickly before someone else gets started on it!



Over the last couple of years it seems to me that Palin spends a lot of time promoting herself and that seems kind of odd for someone who claims they want anonymity.


I doan think she’s ever claimed she wanted “anonymity”…but I’m sure you’ll be able to provide that quote, from the post 2008 era….

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)


Next I recommend the “money angle” that works too, she’s in it for the MONEY…please don’t miss any of the seminar points:
1) Can’t get Independents;
2) She’s self-promoting
3) And she’s doing it for the money.

ironrailsironweights said...

You probably think that because she is doing this tour, they should be covering her when she is taking a dump, brushing her teeth or shopping for groceries.

Wait - are you saying that women take dumps??? Christ Jesus, there goes another cherished belief onto the trash heap. I never knew that women would partake in such a crude and distasteful activity.

Peter

RLB_IV said...

Freeman may be right or Crack may be right. If Freeman is right I say good for Mrs. Palin. You can never have enough money. If Crack is right I would love to see her run.
I would be surprised if she is not an able chess player. I am amused by the game she is playing. So far she is "playing the board" quite well. IMHO

mccullough said...

Edutcher,

The Indiana legislature didn't flip to Republican until the 2010 elections.

Your critcisms of Daniels and your support of Palin would be stronger if you knew the facts. But facts aren't your cup of tea. You're a True Believer. Just repeat the mantra Palin is Awesome!

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

The Crack Emcee:

I see, I say something you don't like about Palin and I become a fucking poser. Those were your words.


No, you are speaking of cultism - which everyone here knows is a topic I am more-then-well-versed in. You go there and I listen carefully to what's said - and you, clearly, don't know it when you see it.

I never said you could not support Palin, I just voiced an opinion, last time I looked I had a right to do that.

You do - and when you're wrong, I've got a right to tell you so.

Sarah Palin is a very gifted politician, if she gets the nomination I will vote for her. But that does not change the fact that there are things about her that seem less than genuine to me.

Fine, just orient them in the real world.

And during the midterms she supported some candidates who did not do very well and that makes me wonder if she has the kind of appeal it takes to win a general election.. She also supported Rand Paul in Ky..and he turned around and voted with the Democrats and Olympia Snowe on the Ryan bill. She is not responsible for all his votes, obviously..but then again that just points out that libertarians are not conservatives.

I just had this same argument said to me a few days ago on this blog - almost delivered word-for-word - now who's the cultist?

So, if I am a fucking poser...then you are a nasty little man who likes to say things to people on the internet that he would not have the balls to say face to face.

Oh, yes I would, and I've got the scars to prove it.

Freder Frederson said...

What the author of that piece, MICHAEL D. SHEAR, does not realize is that Sarah is one of us, and he is not.

Who the hell is "us". I think the "us" you are referring to are angry, rural and suburban working and lower middle class white folks (and a few self-loathing black folks like Crack) who for some reason have turned away from the unions--the one movement that brought them real power in this country in the twentieth century--and now have a huge chip on their shoulder.

No matter what you believe you make up a minority of the electorate, 20% at best. And since everybody except that 20% knows that Sarah Palin is a dangerous idiot (unfortunately, that minority is a much bigger proportion of the state of Alaska), she doesn't have a chance in hell of becoming president. She may indeed win the nomination, because her fans are especially rabid and Republican primaries, especially with the lackluster field we are looking at, tend to bring out the crazies. But if she does, she is looking at a loss of McGovern proportions.

Paul said...

I have to defend Terreye against Crack's over the top slurs, even though we are at odds in regards to SP.

She has always been a thoughtful commenter and was as I recall was appalled with BHO as we all were. She goes way back to the early days at Roger Simon's blog and earned great respect there.

Crack you need to chill out.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
Good luck to Palin's followers. She seems to make them feel better about themselves and really sticks it to those who look down on them. That's all that matters.


Good move, a variant of the “Conservatives are mental” and “Palin supporters are ‘cultists’”, try a little more psycho-babble next….it can’t be support for her positions and presentation thereof, it MUST be that she makes her “pathetic” little, “Bitter Clinger Followers” feel better about their pathetic, Bible-Thumping, Bitter-Clinging Lives…

I say “Bravo” sirrah…that’ll win supporters for you….

Terrye said...

Crack:

Really? Ohhh I am so scared. Crack gonna whip on the 59 year old Republican female who actually gave money to Sarah Palin and John McCain..you are big and bad aren't you?

Actually you are making my point for me. Believe it or not attacking people will not convince them where Palin is concerned. It will only add to the notion a lot of people have that her supporters are cultish.

I would not vote for Barack Obama if you put a gun to my head. So do not treat me like I am some air head little liberal.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)


So to re-cap so far …Palin is a loser:
1) Because she can’t win;
2) Because she self-promotes
3) Is making money.
Now in all of this I have yet to hear anyone say, “I disagree with her policy on Libya” (Arguably she’s lucky she WASN’T POTUS when she made her call)…”I disagree with, ‘Drill Here, Drill now, Baby’” (Why you would is beyond me, but mayhap youse guyz like Bio-Fuels), “I disagree with her support for the Ryan Budget and Ryan’s Roadmap to Prosperity” (Again why you would puzzles me, but some will say it doesn’t do enough [McCullough/PB&J the Moby] or that it does TOO MUCH, government spending is supporting what little economic growth there is, and to reduce it now guarantees a ‘Double Dip Recession.’”

See there ARE policy disagreements to be had with Palin and I the Jewish “Cultist” can list them, but SO FAR, those aren’t under discussion. Which suggests to me, that the opposition to Palin is VISCERAL…not cerebral.

Freder Frederson said...

Sarah Palin is a very gifted politician

Where is the evidence of this? She won one statewide election in the second smallest (population wise) state in the union. A state that barely has a population larger than the average congressional district (698K v. 646K). She couldn't even tough out one term at that. Although she has a fiercely loyal base, her negatives are through the roof. Coalition builder she is not.

Terrye said...

Paul:

Thanks.

edutcher said...

mccullough said...

Edutcher,

The Indiana legislature didn't flip to Republican until the 2010 elections.

Your critcisms of Daniels and your support of Palin would be stronger if you knew the facts. But facts aren't your cup of tea. You're a True Believer. Just repeat the mantra Palin is Awesome!


If mccullough thinks Miss Sarah's or Dubya's resumes are the same as Little Zero's (or, for that matter, Daniels' unwillingness to confront his opponents is irrelevant), he's the one who hates facts.

As I've said before, I don't think this is her year and it would be a mistake for her to run. I'm just enjoying the show.

Just as I just enjoy a moby like mccullough tying himself in knots trying to sell a loser like Daniels as the Great GOP Hope.

The Crack Emcee said...

Freder Frederson,

"a few self-loathing black folks like Crack"

What in the fuck are you smoking?

Paul,

I have to defend Terreye against Crack's over the top slurs, even though we are at odds in regards to SP.

She has always been a thoughtful commenter and was as I recall was appalled with BHO as we all were. She goes way back to the early days at Roger Simon's blog and earned great respect there.

Crack you need to chill out.


Dude, she accused us of cultism. If know anything about me, you know I'm going to respond to that. I'll say it again - and I can confidently say there's no one who will challenge me on it:

I know more about cultism than everyone here.

if you accuse me of that, I will NOT "chill out." If Terrye's so fucking brilliant - over at the blog with the man with that silly fucking fedora - then, before she goes down the cult route again, I'd suggest she go back there because she'll be made a fool of fucking with me on this topic.

Terrye said...

Freder:

Oh yes, Sarah Palin is gifted. She can communicate in a way that it truly unique. Her speech at the Convention was one of the most remarkable things I have ever seen. That place just came to life.

She would not be where she is if she were not gifted. She is no dummie.

My problems with Sarah Palin are more about her electability than anything else...and I do wonder about the TV shows and all that. But hey, she can do what she likes..I just don't see that her numbers have improved much in the last couple of years and I think that might be because people think she is an opportunist.

But do not underestimate her.

Terrye said...

Crack:

Listen chump..if you don't like what I say, skip over it..if you don't like the cult charges..then don't go off the deep end every time someone challenges your candidate.

It just makes you look out of control.

Shanna said...

They still cannot believe that a woman with that much attractiveness could be a genuine anything.

That is absurd. Are we really going to the "they jus jealous" place right now, just because someone disagrees about whether this is a presidential run or a different type of tour? Really?

Good show.

Titus said...

Palin has great tits, ass, legs and face and some women find it threatening.

tits.

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

Crack:

Really? Ohhh I am so scared. Crack gonna whip on the 59 year old Republican female who actually gave money to Sarah Palin and John McCain..you are big and bad aren't you?


What is your fucking problem, lady? I didn't bring up that face-to-face shit - you did! And now you want to hide behind being an older lady? How did I know? You're the one talking shit, so don't put it on me if you get in return. You want to be treated like a lady, worthy of respect, then talk and act like one.

Actually you are making my point for me. Believe it or not attacking people will not convince them where Palin is concerned. It will only add to the notion a lot of people have that her supporters are cultish.

There you go again - YOU STARTED IT! I just did a post about that very cult phenomena of starting shit and then blaming others when they respond. Fuck you. If you're going to keep this shit up, I'd suggest highly that you keep my name out of your mouth because - for the last time - you don't want to fuck with me on this topic.

I would not vote for Barack Obama if you put a gun to my head. So do not treat me like I am some air head little liberal.

I'm not - I'm treating you like a flim-flam artist - which you obviously are.

Chuck66 said...

Joe, you seem have have noticed that the left doesn't debate policy differences. Instead they make up conspiracy theories about the motives of their political opponents.

We see that with the union thugs and Governor Walker.

Freder Frederson said...

Now in all of this I have yet to hear anyone say, “I disagree with her policy on Libya” . . .

Okay, I would like to say something about Palin's Libya policy, but I really can't. It is completely incoherent:

"I would like to see, of course, as long as we're in it -- we better be in it to win it. And if there's doubt, we get out. Win it means Qaddafi goes and America gets to get on out of there and let the people of Libya create their own government, choose their own leader. And America, no nation building. We get out. We take care of our affairs elsewhere."

As for "drill, baby, drill", that is utterly simplistic and, frankly, stupid. Even if we extracted every available drop of oil that we have in the U.S. it would not significantly affect global oil prices. It would at best boost global supplies by a couple percent and would merely mean more pollution and delaying the inevitable conversion to some other source of energy (we will eventually run out of oil).

As for Ryan's budget plan and roadmap to prosperity, it is an illusion. It doesn't lower the deficit. Lower taxes (than current tax rates) do not lead to increased revenue. Higher taxes do not necessarily inhibit economic growth. Saying otherwise is simply lying and there is historical data to back it up (e.g., economic growth was higher after the Clinton tax hikes than after either of the Bush cuts).

edutcher said...

Freder Frederson said...

Sarah Palin is a very gifted politician

Where is the evidence of this?


She drives guys like Freder/Alpha/Montaigne absolutely insane.

PS As to mccullough's love of facts, there was only a 4 vote plurality in the Indiana House. The Senate has a large republican majority.

Not exactly a profile in courage to get anything passed.

Titus said...

Can't we all just get along?

Let's just focus on Palin's tits because those things are marvelous.

Now isn't your mind in a better state after focusing on the tit.

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

Listen chump..

Pure Flim-Flam. One minute, she's threatening, then she's a 59 year old lady who wouldn't hurt a fly - and is being attacked by a tough guy - now back to threatening.

Fuck you, Terrye, I can see through you for miles.

Chuck66 said...

Titus, what are your thoughts about Michelle Obama's body. Do you find her big ass thighs hot? Or are you more into the militant angry lesbian look that Tammy Baldwin is working?

Ralph L said...

Her bust tour goes to Mt Vernon today and the North East. Talk about taking the fight to the enemy. If she were just in it for publicity/money, she would go south.

Freder Frederson said...

What in the fuck are you smoking?

Whatever it is, it sure ain't as good as what you are.

You, who are supposedly the cult hating atheist have become totally enamoured of a ultra-conservative fundamentalist Christian. Tell me what about her religious beliefs (including her apparent creationism) makes her any different from the cultists you hate and fear so much?

Freder Frederson said...

She drives guys like Freder/Alpha/Montaigne absolutely insane.

She doesn't drive me insane in the least. Besides, as far as I am concerned, driving people insane is a sign of a really bad politician. A good politician should be able to make even those who disagree with them see their point of view and even if they don't agree with it, still believe that they have the interests of all their constituents at heart.

mccullough said...

Edutcher,

I've been commenting here longer than you, so if I'm a moby you should have sussed that out by now.

You don't know any facts, which is why you are ignorant. You are a cheerleder. So just cheer: Palin is Awesome. Obama Sucks. That's all your comments are.

I'm sorry the elites, MSM, and RINOs make you feel inferior and angry. Palin makes you feel better about yourself. That's great. It doesn't matter if Palin didn't cut spending in Alaska or if she didn't decrease the number of state employees. Palin is Awesome!

Terrye said...

Crack:

No you can't. You can not see past the end of your nose...I am a 59 year old woman. And I think you are a chump. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I am going to try and explain something for all the good it will do.

I loved Sarah Palin when she first came on the scene. I thought the media was awful in the way they treated her. However, after she quit her job as Governor I began to have some doubts about her. I understand why she quit..she probably did the best thing for her family...but as time went on and I saw the reality TV show and all the book tours and all that I just began to get an uncomfortable feeling about her.

Now, if you don't like that, too bad. But you know what? With friends like you Sarah Palin does not need enemies.

Lucius said...

If this descends into 'I can tell Freeman Hunt what she really thinks' territory, this is a warning sign that something is amiss.

Some of this anti-RINO mentality is just fundamentalism. For ideological and moral reasons, a lot of people prefer Reagan over an Ike or an HW. Today the same people largely prefer Palin over a Pawlenty, Daniels, et al.

Fine. Have that argument. But the kneejerk reaction to non-Palinistas as pod people who are not One Of Us needs to be amended.

Palin's a terrific governor and campaigner, but she can't incarnate the whole country. I think some of us (and I confess to this) see her as Delacroix's Liberty Leading the People. Which means there's some Man Trouble that lifts her numbers too. A bit of idealization.

Freder Frederson said...

Oh yes, Sarah Palin is gifted. She can communicate in a way that it truly unique. Her speech at the Convention was one of the most remarkable things I have ever seen. That place just came to life.

I could make a comment on this, but I don't want to be accused of breaking Godwin's Law.

chickenlittle said...

Cankles are rankled

_______
wv = conismo

Terrye said...

And Crack...saying "you started it" is so childish. It really is. You called me a "fucking poser". As if that was just normal conversation. As for your posts on cultists or whatever..I did not even notice that. Believe it or not, I don't hang on your every word.

chickenlittle said...

Cincinnatus resigned once too. People got over it.

mccullough said...

Palin supporters,

If Palin supports Paul Ryan, why isn't she out there now helping him make the case? The Republicans lost the special house election in NY and now the media, rightly or wrongly, are saying it's because of the Medicare reform in the budget. Since Palin supports Ryan, when is she going to make the political case for the privatization of Medicare? She can tour the monuments later.

Mary Beth said...

After all, the Kennedys had a child in the family who was retarded. They could have gotten rid of her and did not. That does not mean I would vote for a Kennedy.

5/30/11 11:21 AM


It's true that the Kennedys didn't have her aborted, they just had her undergo a prefrontal lobotomy.

The Crack Emcee said...

Freder Frederson,

You, who are supposedly the cult hating atheist have become totally enamoured of a ultra-conservative fundamentalist Christian.

Yeah, me - who has spoken on Christian radio and criticized my fellow atheists, repeatedly, for being so limited in their thinking.

You conventional thinkers can't touch me - because you can't keep up.

Tell me what about her religious beliefs (including her apparent creationism) makes her any different from the cultists you hate and fear so much?

This is the same bullshit they put on Bush - he was a crazy religious nut - and then, when he was asked, point blank, if he thought Jesus was real he said, "probably not" - making an idiot and a liar of everyone (and this is my point to you and Terrye) who ever charged him with THIER VIEWS. Joe (The Crypto Jew) and I are making the same point:

It's YOU who are acting like cultists, not allowing the real world to have any influence on your bullshit.

Oh, Crack is an atheist - he must attack every vestige of religion because what? THAT'S WHAT ATHEISTS DO Right? Guess what, genius? Not all of us.

Some of us are bright enough to know we live in - get this - a religious country, so the idea of putting on that silly show that most atheists do (as they reject their religion, which I've never done, being a born atheist) isn't necessary.

Palin's religious views seem no different to me than anyone else's. It's an old, outdated, belief that has no use in the modern world - but will I take such a person over a NewAger?

Any day.

Now go back to school, Freder, because you'll need a LOT more education before you'll ever box me into that weak-assed framework you call "thinking".

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

Crack:

No you can't. You can not see past the end of your nose...I am a 59 year old woman. And I think you are a chump. The two are not mutually exclusive.


And I've made it clear - on this blog - that I will knock the fuck out of a woman.

Now, who's saying shit they won't say to another's face?

I repeat: you're a Flim-Flam artist and nothing more. Your story changes with each post. Go back to sucking dicks on Roger Simon's blog.

You're a liar and I'm done with you.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
Okay, I would like to say something about Palin's Libya policy, but I really can't. It is completely incoherent:

"I would like to see, of course, as long as we're in it -- we better be in it to win it. And if there's doubt, we get out. Win it means Qaddafi goes and America gets to get on out of there and let the people of Libya create their own government, choose their own leader. And America, no nation building. We get out. We take care of our affairs elsewhere."

You mean a MONTH before one was imposed calling for a No-Fly Zone, and then suggesting that IF we are going to go to war, we might try to WIN it? There’s “incoherence.”


As for "drill, baby, drill", that is utterly simplistic and, frankly, stupid. Even if we extracted every available drop of oil that we have in the U.S. it would not significantly affect global oil prices. It would at best boost global supplies by a couple percent and would merely mean more pollution and delaying the inevitable conversion to some other source of energy (we will eventually run out of oil).

Yeah because hey Supply and Demand are MYTHS…and increasing the availability of oil and oil products, would NEVER affect the global cost of oil…geeez, and SHE’S incoherent? And let’s unpack just a bit…more oil, is BAD anyway in Freder-Land because it leads to POLLUTION, so even IF it did reduce price it wouldn’t be good, right? And we need to transition to an ALTERNATIVE, care to provide one…coal-fired CARS, Wind, Solar? Should we transition to something more expensive and make ourselves poorer, all in the name of “sustainable green jobs?”

As for Ryan's budget plan and roadmap to prosperity, it is an illusion. It doesn't lower the deficit. Lower taxes (than current tax rates) do not lead to increased revenue. Higher taxes do not necessarily inhibit economic growth. Saying otherwise is simply lying and there is historical data to back it up (e.g., economic growth was higher after the Clinton tax hikes than after either of the Bush cuts).


No higher taxes don’t inhibit growth that’s why European economies are the envy of the world….

Paul said...

A lot of thin skins, hyperbole, and misconstruction hereabouts.

Crack, you can disagree with Terreye but she doesn't deserve the over the top insults.

Regarding Freeman, I don't purport to know her motives, but her take on Palin seems out of character somehow, so my speculation that maybe female jealousy might play a role is as good a conjecture as any. You yourself were puzzled by her position.

Back in the day Roger Simon had one of the best blogs with the best commenters. Who the fuck cares what kind of hat he wears. That kind of criticism makes you look petty and out of control. In fact your performance today pretty much in it's entirety makes you look petty and out of control.

The Crack Emcee said...

Terrye,

And Crack...saying "you started it" is so childish. It really is. You called me a "fucking poser". As if that was just normal conversation.

After you called me and my kind cultists - that's an insult, bitch - and the worst one you can call me. Own it.

As for your posts on cultists or whatever..I did not even notice that. Believe it or not, I don't hang on your every word.

Your dumb ass don't even hang on your own words.

Go to Hell.

deborah said...

"It’s all nails when you’re a hammer…I’m with Freeman on this, unless she actually does enter the field I’m going with ‘not running’. I could see some sort of play for Senator of Arizona in the future that might lead to a Presidential run down the line."

Replacing Brewer as gov would be even slicker. If she could pull that off, and has the patience/emotional intelligence to build a serious reputation, she could be president one day.

(Freeman would be the last person to hold a woman's looks against her. She calls them like she sees them.)

Terrye said...

Crack:

Me and my kind? What are you talking about? Listen if you don't want people to call you a cultist..don't act like one..

Thus far, because I dared to disagree with you when it comes to Sarah Palin...you have called me a fucking poser..you have said fuck you to me and you have told me to go to hell...but you are upset because you think I called you and "your kind" cultists..well if shoe fits.

To be honest I don't think most of Palin's supporters are cultist..I think they just like and believe in her..you on the other hand are acting too defensive and hostile and if you can not see that, then I feel sorry for you.

We are done now.

Terrye said...

Mary Beth:

The Kennedys also had a lot of money which means they did not have to worry about taking care of a child with special needs. I think Sarah Palin is one of those women who would refuse to get an abortion under just about any circumstances. In fact, she might love Trig even more because he needs her more.

I have a client who is in her 80's..she has a son with downs syndrome who is over 40 years old. She still takes care of him and it is a labor of love.

Pastafarian said...

Freder: "You, who are supposedly the cult hating atheist have become totally enamoured of a ultra-conservative fundamentalist Christian."

He's not the only one, putz.

I've been an atheist since you were a choir boy, and I'd love it if Palin ran and won. Why would I care what her religion is? Are you some sort of bigot?

I did like that line about Crack being "self-loathing" -- that's a good one. Keep up the over-the-top Pythonesque humor, Freddy.

Oh, and you people fucking with Freeman Hunt -- if you're religious, you might want to make peace with your god. There are some people you don't want to mess with; no, there's just one person you really, really don't want to mess with, and that's Freeman Hunt.

Lucius said...

@Paul: I agree with your first paragraph, but--

C'mon. Why this second-guessing Freeman again? And this crap about "female jealousy"?! What a ludicrous meme!

Just because Palin is the Botticelli Venus of MILFs does not mean that every (conservative) woman who wants to wait till the primary to cast her vote has some weird kind
of "issue".

This is what people are seizing on as 'cultish'-- this tone of "But everyone I know loves chocolate ice cream!" Must people give account of their scattered nomination preferences so far in advance? Does one want to start scolding people like some Trotskyite, 'you must not love ice cream at all! Oh, you must *hate* ice cream!' Jesus, some people may actually wait for her foreign policy speech, you know? Other conservatives *have* existed besides Sarah Palin, wonderful as she is.

Is it inconceivable that, say, John Thune could get sworn in Jan 2012 and turn out to be the greatest President since Lincoln?

This 'only one person conceivable now to free us from our troubles' gets a bit messianic. I'm enjoying Palin's 'campaign', whether it's for the White House or just to highlight conservative issues. But this 'the One' factor is a mirror of Obama's rise. It's not the Burkean way to feel.

The Crack Emcee said...

Paul,

Crack, you can disagree with Terreye but she doesn't deserve the over the top insults.

Fuck you, too. If you can't acknowledge that she called me a cultist - and that was the original insult - then what are you doing, now, but being part of the problem? Take that silly bitch back to Roger Simon's blog and leave me the fuck alone.

Regarding Freeman, I don't purport to know her motives, but her take on Palin seems out of character somehow, so my speculation that maybe female jealousy might play a role is as good a conjecture as any. You yourself were puzzled by her position.

Sure, puzzled, but - and this is the point of this whole conflict - I didn't decide I knew Freeman's motives. I didn't even speculate. If I wanted to know, do you know what I would do?

I'D ASK HER!!!

But you and your girlfriend, Terrye, are too stupid for that. You know what we think already - so you insult us, by telling us what we are, and then trying to pin the blame on us for not going along - which was the whole point of the post I just wrote about on my blog. Wrote about, I should add, as what cultists do.

Back in the day Roger Simon had one of the best blogs with the best commenters. Who the fuck cares what kind of hat he wears. That kind of criticism makes you look petty and out of control. In fact your performance today pretty much in it's entirety makes you look petty and out of control.

He looked like a damned fool in that thing - and I'm supposed to respect him? He took a pretty good black conservative commentator - Zo - and turned him into a fucking milquetoast. And I'm supposed to respect him? In my opinion, Roger L. Simon has a knack for taking any vestige of the new conservatism and turning it into something useless. At least on the latest POLIWOOD's he's stop wearing that damned hat, so he might be learning how to attract people outside of his circle of sycophants.

Petty and uncontrolled? You ain't seen shit:

Keep calling me a cultist and there's a good chance I'll show up at your motherfucking house.

Paul said...

"Keep calling me a cultist and there's a good chance I'll show up at your motherfucking house.'

Hahahah! Man you're a clown. What a baby.

Methadras said...

victoria said...

Nothing she does is off the cuff, it is all meant for publicity. Her "sneaking away" was carefully orchestrated for all to know that she is a "real American". What does that make the rest of us who don't find her appealing? Not real Americans? I am as American as she is.


Vicki from Pasadena


No, you are a leftard and a bottom of the barrel leftard at that. You stopped being an american when you adopted that ideology into your personality. Shed it and join the rest of us Americans who await you with open arms. Otherwise, you might as well be from fucking pluto with your moronic ideas. Yes, this country allows it, but we don't have to like it.

The Crack Emcee said...

Paul,

"Keep calling me a cultist and there's a good chance I'll show up at your motherfucking house.'

Hahahah! Man you're a clown. What a baby.


Yeah, a baby whose wife joined a cult and killed three people, asshole.

This shit ain't no game to me.

Luther said...

"I'd wager a minority opinion too."

A larger miniority than you might think.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)



Crack , chill out…the “Woe is me ‘New Agers’ did me great harm” shtick is getting old. Some of the stuff you’ve said is good, some of…showing at someone’s door, is laughable Internet Tough Guy stuff. It makes you less than you need to be.

bagoh20 said...

Frederer said: " A good politician should be able to make even those who disagree with them see their point of view and even if they don't agree with it, still believe that they have the interests of all their constituents at heart."

That's some funny shit there dude. Unless you are serious, then I think I heard your mom calling you to clean your room.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
" A good politician should be able to make even those who disagree with them see their point of view and even if they don't agree with it, still believe that they have the interests of all their constituents at heart."


Oh I agree, how well I remember all those folks seeing Reagan’s Point and Bush ’43 how well I remember Hillary, and Dean, and Kerrey and all those other folks “seeing” Bush’s “point.”

Really, try to tell lies small enough you’ll believe them…or are you goofy enough to believe this cr@ap?

The Crack Emcee said...

Joe,

Say what you want, but the NewAge shit is true. Look at my blog - I just posted the death of an 8 year old child last night.

I wasn't going to say it, here, but I wrote Ann an apology for my words by email.

I appreciate what you're saying, otherwise, though.

And thanks.

cubanbob said...

Does anyone here who is not for Obama going to vote for him if Palin were the nominee? Seriously, is there a potential nominee so bad that he or she would be an even worse president than Obama? If there is then Obama has a chance. If not, and I have yet to see a potential candidate as bad as Obama never mind a potential candidate worse than Obama then it doesn't matter who the republicans nominate as long as the non parasites show up and vote. We all have our preferred candidate but the only sure thing is that the republican candidate will be a better president the the current arrogant marxist idiot in chief.

Seeing Red said...

Sneaks? SNEAKS? LOLOLOL

Rolling Thunder tour - NYT admits press crowded around

Hooked up on Drudge (& Althouse)

& she "sneaks" into DC?

Seeing Red said...

If we win the presidency, I want Sarah as the Energy Secretary.


Huge grin.

Seeing Red said...

Nothing she does is off the cuff, it is all meant for publicity. Her "sneaking away" was carefully orchestrated for all to know that she is a "real American". What does that make the rest of us who don't find her appealing? Not real Americans? I am as American as she is.



LOLOLOL


R U suggesting that if U went to DC, U wouldn't visit the monuments?

I go far inbetween, but I do each time.

& how in the heck does Sarah Palin "sneak away?"

They hate her, she's always being watched.

Seeing Red said...

Frederer said: " A good politician should be able to make even those who disagree with them see their point of view and even if they don't agree with it, still believe that they have the interests of all their constituents at heart."


"Let me be clear?"


I'm not his constituent, I am his enemy. His words.

Luther said...

My opinion Crack you're being overly sensitive. Sure, you have reason to be. But not everyone does nor likely ever will have the same sensitivity to cults, being called a cultist or even being a member of a cult as you do. Damn few in fact will ever feel about cults the way you do. You take it personally, dude. And sometimes, out here in the rest of the world, you'd be better off not doing that as it isn't good for your health. Causes stress and tension, know what I mean. As for keeping up, as you said, sometimes it's also good to know a little history. I'll not discuss RL Simon personally, but ten years ago (long before PJ Media) his comment section was one of the top places on the net for intelligent discussion of the problems and issues facing this country. I didn't comment all that much but believe you me I read every damn thread. And I learned a hell of a lot. And one of the things I learned was that Terrye was a clear and focused thinker who could slice and dice leftist clowns with the best of them. She was good at it. Anyway, you still have that spot in the fighting hole, but you need to stay calm, man. This is no time for alienation and in-fighting among ourselves. The country is at stake here.

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
"

Cubanbob, yeah there candidates I wouldn’t vote for over Obama…say Pat Buchanan or Jon Huntsman. Neither are particularly desirable alternatives to Obama, Huntsman especially. I know politicians, they’d go along with Huntsman, or McCain to avoid handing “their” POTUS a “defeat.” So we’d get Tax and Cap-Lite…RomneyCare in place of ObamaCare, Higher Taxes, TODAY, for FUTURE (never to happen Spending Cuts). It would set the Right back years. So, yes there are candidates as bad as Obama. Ron Paul, is another that springs to mind….

Now, as Huntsman or Paul or Buchanan are as likely to win the nomination as I am, it’s somewhat moot, but YES, there GOP candidates I would not vote for, even against Obama.

Seeing Red said...

The Kennedys also had a lot of money which means they did not have to worry about taking care of a child with special needs.

Nope they operated on her and then cloistered her away.

Seeing Red said...

And since everybody except that 20% knows that Sarah Palin is a dangerous idiot (unfortunately, that minority is a much bigger proportion of the state of Alaska),


Because.....


The bamster's buds r terrorizers. communists, progressives & America-haters - yet he's not dangerous?

Synova said...

"More, “I’d like Palin, but her fanz…” Whatever, another “seminar meme,” “It’s NOT MY FAULT I won’t vote for Palin, it’s YOUR fault.” See it all the time…."

That was huge with Bush. It was all "he didn't explain it to me well enough" and "he didn't convince me well enough" and no attempt to take the whole Iraq thing and look at it objectively and decide for one's self.

See it ALL the time.

Synova said...

Same thing as "The media and everyone were so mean to her so... it's not my fault if I just GO with that then."

Seeing Red said...

Given that Palin has no proposals


Y does she need proposals now?

She's not running.

d-day said...

I think I'm going to enjoy the Palin presidency.

Seeing Red said...

So why not make the tour quietly months ago without any releases to the press?

U want her to tour in winter?

edutcher said...

mccullough said...

Edutcher,

I've been commenting here longer than you, so if I'm a moby you should have sussed that out by now.

You don't know any facts, which is why you are ignorant. You are a cheerleder. So just cheer: Palin is Awesome. Obama Sucks. That's all your comments are.

I'm sorry the elites, MSM, and RINOs make you feel inferior and angry. Palin makes you feel better about yourself. That's great. It doesn't matter if Palin didn't cut spending in Alaska or if she didn't decrease the number of state employees. Palin is Awesome!


Actually, he hasn't been commenting longer; he's just another persona in the PB&J/some phony folksy troupe. And he uses the same tropes of inferiority and anger.

As I say, he loves Daniels because Daniels has no stomach for a fight. Just the kind of RINO the Lefties want.

And, again, I just enjoy the show of people like mccullough going ballistic trying to destroy this woman and watching themselves fail. I've said so many times even someone like mccullough must get it - I don't want her to run this time.

But he's busy with his hands over his ears going, "La la la la".

MayBee said...

The idea that women who are not huge fans of Palin's must be jealous of her is one of the least attractive memes from Palin fans.

You all should re-think that.

MayBee said...

I'll throw a counter theory out there.

Attractive, smart women are less taken with Palin because her smart attractiveness is nothing special to them.

Or.

People form opinions of Palin just as they do any other politician. Even women are capable of doing so.

Either/or/and

Seeing Red said...

Even if we extracted every available drop of oil that we have in the U.S.

"Available"


Could U define what U mean by that?

Saying otherwise is simply lying and there is historical data to back it up (e.g., economic growth was higher after the Clinton tax hikes than after either of the Bush cuts).

Where did U factor in the peace dividend?

Titus said...

I have repeatedly said Michelle Obama has a big ass and is very unattractive ChuckB.

As for Tammy Baldwin she a big dyke.

I love Palin's tits.

victoria said...

Joe, it is not me that is questioning MY patriotism, it is Sarah. In the last campaign she talked about good Americans and bad Americans. She said, quite pointedly that the good Americans were the rural people and the "bad" Americans were we city dwellers. Not me, that's her interpretation. I don't see her any different this time around.

She scares me but not in the way you righties think. Her brand of populism is all about "Small town values"(Which really don't exist anymore) and that they are better than us big bad city folks. It reminds me of Earnest T. Bass, if you are familiar with The Andy Griffith show.

I actually don't see her as a potential threat to Obama or the Democrats. She is just going to stir up things, get people all excited and out of sorts and then she is going to quit, just like everything else she has done.


Vicki from Pasadena

Joe said...

(The Crypto Jew)
"Joe, it is not me that is questioning MY patriotism, it is Sarah. In the last campaign she talked about good Americans and bad Americans. She said, quite pointedly that the good Americans were the rural people and the "bad" Americans were we city dwellers. Not me, that's her interpretation. I don't see her any different this time around.

Vickie I’ll take that quote for $1,000, please.

Milwaukee said...

Terrye: you're right Sarah Palin isn't like us. She saw things that were wrong and dragged her sorry ass off the sofa and did something about it. Unlike John F. Kerry or Barack Hussein Obama, she didn't grow up hoping to become President of some country. John McCain plucked her from obscurity and she has responded to the call. We should all answer duty's call so resolutely.

As for Rose Kennedy, evidence exists that she was far from retarded, more like "learning disabled". But in the highly competitive atmosphere of the Kennedy family, she was a loser. The lobotomy has her father's idea as a way to control her, and keep her from embarrassing her "shit-don't-stink" brothers. Piss on those brothers. So yes, they did get rid of her. Not as quick as a narrow bridge in the dark, but it worked.

Those highly competitive Kennedys lost a family member one New Years Eve. The tradition had been for them to take the last run down the mountain with a football, and to toss it back and forth on the way down. They had been told not to by the ski patrol, and did it anyway. The tree won. Which Kennedy was it who insisted on flying across Long Island Sound with bad weather and a foot in a cast? What an arrogant bunch of asses you choose to use a role models for the rest of us. Exactly why wasn't John Kennedy court-martialed for the loss of his ship? Isn't that standard operating procedure when any U.S. Naval vessel is lost?


Terrye said...

Big Mike:

Palin is not the only person who did not abort a downs syndrome child. I know other people who have kept children that some people would have aborted and some of those people are Democrats. Not everything is political. When people make personal decisions like that, a lot of things come into play. After all, the Kennedys had a child in the family who was retarded. They could have gotten rid of her and did not. That does not mean I would vote for a Kennedy.

Milwaukee said...

Freder! This is pretty harsh!
Who the hell is "us". I think the "us" you are referring to are angry, rural and suburban working and lower middle class white folks (and a few self-loathing black folks like Crack) who for some reason have turned away from the unions--the one movement that brought them real power in this country in the twentieth century--and now have a huge chip on their shoulder.

Funny thing about the unions and black folks. Trade and manufacturing unions were notoriously segregated. Wasn't the Davis-Bacon Act about prevailing wages specifically designed as a racist act to prevent contractors from using Black workers from the South? Unions love that one. Now that more union employees are in the public sector than the private sector, and the public sector has done far more affirmative action hiring than the private sector, now Blacks are more involved in the union movement.

Back off of Crack there! He is welcome at any party I throw. Just because a person is Black and doesn't vote straight Democratic doesn't mean they are "self-loathing". Heck I think those that insist on the gang-banger, father-children-out-of-wedlock-and-abandon-them, and butcher the English language are the self-lathers.

Excuse me, I need to go back to clinging to my gun and my Bible.

Synova said...

I think that the women who don't like Palin because of her looks or her fertility aren't at all coy about it so no one needs to guess or make stupid assumptions about anyone's secret motivation.

Remember whoever it was who whined that Palin was playing some strange, deceptive, anti-feminist game of simultaneously looking f*ckable, without ever giving the impression she'd be willing to f*ck? I remember that, pretty sure she used the "f" word. Also the "not a woman" comments? Hoochi-hoop-gate? Caribou Barbie?

No one has to imagine secret jealous rages. Not a woman alive can keep a jealous rage a secret.

(And frankly, I'm baffled as to what Freeman supposedly said which seems to me to be nothing more than "I don't think she's running, she's making money and doing other things," which, unless you disapprove of making money isn't even slightly negative.)

Big Mike said...

Her brand of populism is all about "Small town values"(Which really don't exist anymore) ...

Ah, point of information Vicki, you ignorant slut. They really do exist, and Dumbocrats ignore that at their peril.

Seeing Red said...

I actually don't see her as a potential threat to Obama or the Democrats. She is just going to stir up things, get people all excited and out of sorts and then she is going to quit, just like everything else she has done.


I didn't grow up to be what I wanted to be. So I did something else, then I quit that.


Lots of people quit their marriages. Sometimes for very good reasons, other times not.

She didn't quit that.

Fen said...

Vicki still doesn't "know anyone who voted for Nixon"

I actually don't see her as a potential threat to Obama or the Democrats.

Obama, the Dems and the Media (but I repeat myself) certainly do. Else they wouldn't have attacked her 24/7 for the last 3 years.

Oligonicella said...

Freder: "You, who are supposedly the cult hating atheist have become totally enamoured of a ultra-conservative fundamentalist Christian."

Pastafarian: He's not the only one, putz.

I must concur with Pasta. You find my support of Palin un-atheist how?

Fen said...

Freeman: "Beautiful, innovative unrolling" of a self-promotion campaign designed to sell tickets and books and to raise Palin's profile for television shows and the like.

Flypaper. The Left redoubles their attacks on her, giving GOP candidates more maneuver space.

Flypaper. Rainmaker. Kingmaker. Its not confusing at all.

traditionalguy said...

Shanna and Maybee...It's not that the women who cannot support Palin are jealous of her. Instead they see in her some one who cannot be trusted. My suspicion is that those women have been under a woman in authority over them, or in a competition with them ,and have come to see a woman in power as always being dangerous. My point is that there can be an exception to that rule.

Fen said...

@ Freeman

/via Powerline

"I'm not sure why nearly all pundits are convinced that Palin isn't running for president, but I hope they are right. She is never going to win over the fringe voters that will be decisive in 2012. But that's OK. Sarah Palin has a unique ability to communicate with and motivate a significant chunk of the electorate that is critical to the GOP's hopes in the next couple of election cycles. She will do a great service for her country if she devotes her efforts to tying the left up in frustrated knots, while helping to deliver for conservative candidates the voters with whom she has a unique relationship. Which, at this point, seems to be exactly what she has in mind"

Crack: I've stayed away from discussing Freeman's looks, because I don't tend to think that way, but, to me, she's the beauty.

Echo. Her black and white pic on her blog always leaves me enchanted.

The Crack Emcee said...

Luther,

My opinion Crack you're being overly sensitive. Sure, you have reason to be. But not everyone does nor likely ever will have the same sensitivity to cults, being called a cultist or even being a member of a cult as you do. Damn few in fact will ever feel about cults the way you do. You take it personally, dude.

Oh yeah, don't I know all of that:

“The Oprah Winfrey Show” ended Wednesday, bringing despair to booksellers who relied on her book club, television programmers who needed her ratings, and religion scholars who for a decade have tried explaining how this child of poverty became the leader of a worldwide cult.

That's the New York Times, and it ends like this:

Oprah scholars excel, as many good scholars do, at withholding judgment, seeking to explain rather than praise or condemn. One wishes for a more critical eye. I, for one, found something cathartic in Dr. Illouz’s brief critique, when she called Ms. Winfrey “absurd” for “making suffering into a desirable experience.”

In her earnest spiritual seeking, Ms. Winfrey gave platforms to some rather questionable types. She hosted the self-help author Louise Hay, who once said Holocaust victims may have been paying for sins in a previous life. She championed the “medical intuitive” Caroline Myss, who claims emotional distress causes cancer. She helped launch Rhonda Byrne, creator of the DVD and book “The Secret,” who teaches that just thinking about wealth can make you rich. She invited the “psychic medium” John Edward to help mourners in her audience talk to their dead relatives.

“The Oprah Winfrey Show” made viewers feel that they constantly had to “sculpt their best lives,” Dr. Lofton writes. Yet in her religious exuberance Ms. Winfrey gave people some badly broken tools. Ms. Winfrey nodded along to the psychics and healers and intuitives. She rarely asked tough questions, and because she believed, millions of others did, too.


So here I am, with all my "good reasons," watching the entire world - I said THE ENTIRE WORLD - applauding a cult and cult leader because - just like with the lamer president she presented to us - they're black. Like me. A fact which, apparently, only I and a handful of religious scholrs could see as it was happening - and that includes all the destruction in just her wake (because there are so many others) and the best everyone can give me - even after I acknowledged my wrong actions - is "chill out," "calm down," and boy! that lady who called you a cultist sure was something on that other blog where this vitally important topic on ***the true nature of our society*** was never even brought up or considered.

Man, a crowd of people can make me feel really alone sometimes.

I'm slipping into depression again. I'll see you guys later.

Fen said...

You're not alone Crack.

I had my run-in with a cult. So I have an idea where you're coming from.

Don't let these people get to you.

somefeller said...

I'm not sure why nearly all pundits are convinced that Palin isn't running for president, but I hope they are right. She is never going to win over the fringe voters that will be decisive in 2012. But that's OK. Sarah Palin has a unique ability to communicate with and motivate a significant chunk of the electorate that is critical to the GOP's hopes in the next couple of election cycles. She will do a great service for her country if she devotes her efforts to tying the left up in frustrated knots, while helping to deliver for conservative candidates the voters with whom she has a unique relationship. Which, at this point, seems to be exactly what she has in mind.

Actually, I think this is all true. Palin is clearly beloved by a certain part of the electorate, and the GOP needs that part of the electorate to win. She needs to stay in the public eye just enough to stay relevant, but by actually running she might ruin that deal if she fails to win the GOP nomination. And none of this is inconsistent with the idea that she is also doing this to make money on the celebrity circuit. Nothing wrong with going on tour to buy yourself a new mansion. Just ask Pete Townshend.

Until I hear that she is doing serious hiring of operatives in Iowa and New Hampshire (yeoman work that is still a necessary part of presidential campaigns), I'm still assuming she isn't going to be a candidate in 2012. Now, Rick Perry on the other hand...

Fen said...

That cult leader preyed on me and my girl when I was 19.

Now that I'm much older and wiser, and a former Marine, there are days I think about tracking him down to kill him slowly. I think the only thing that stops me is that I know I wouldn't get away with it. And I have loved ones who depend on me.

Milwaukee said...

What if Palin is running for President? Announcing it too early would be a terrible mistake. Campaign finance laws are different for declared candidates. Besides, the not-too-swift mainstream media would renounce any pretension of decency and be even more vile in their attacks. As a non-candidate she has a great deal more latitude to comment and interact with people than otherwise. Are the limits on campaign donations applying to her action committee and her presidential campaign? This is still the end of May, and the first of the year primaries and caucuses are months off. Declare too early and become an appetizer for the press.

Just think: If Hilary had contested all of the caucus states, this might not have happened. She thought she could garner sufficient support in the primary states to take the nomination. I thought Hilary was brilliant, but she couldn't do the math. Had the Democratic primaries had "winner take all" rules, the outcome would have been very different.

How would Sarah behave if she wasn't running for office? Is she behaving that way?

The Crack Emcee said...

Wait - before I go too far down intyo myself (I'm already shaking as I type this) I want to say something:

I have aged, in my opinion, 25 years in 6, because I KNOW I have been surrounded by a "cult" - one that religious scholars study as much as I do - not some pop band, or a movie, or none of that shit that many people, here, have accused me of seeing. But a real live cult - one that many people, even here, have participated in. I've seen it in the what you say, how you vote, and the things you do. And, yes, it's driven me a little nuts at times, but there's one thing I know that none of you seem to get, and i wish - Gawd, how I wish - you guys, at least, would deal with it;

I'm not the one with the problem.

I'm not the one who killed anyone. I'm not the one who supported it - even a little. I'm not the one who voted for the cult leader's candidate.

I'm not the one who surrounded me with this shit.

That's all on YOU.

I left the ghetto to get educated - and away from madness - not to be introduced a new one.

But, until the rest of you are capable of dealing with your role in what's really happening, there will apparently be no escape for me. Ever.

I gotta go.

Fen said...

Freder: Okay, I would like to say something about Palin's Libya policy, but I really can't. It is completely incoherent:

"I would like to see, of course, as long as we're in it -- we better be in it to win it. And if there's doubt, we get out. Win it means Qaddafi goes and America gets to get on out of there and let the people of Libya create their own government, choose their own leader. And America, no nation building. We get out. We take care of our affairs elsewhere."

Why does that confuse you? Palin is saying we need to target Qaddafi and then leave Libya to its people. Unlike the current "days not weeks" meme of the Diversity Hire thats already 2 months old.

The Crack Emcee said...

Damn it, Fen:

Thanks - and I'm sorry to hear it.

It's a trip to be called crazy and a cultist - by gobs of people - just for seeing things clear-eyed. I'm not kidding - I'm shaking, almost uncontrollably - because, fuck, I've worked so damned hard to be normal. Before my wife killed and after - only to have it all come apart and I become the target of these insane accusations.

I really don't know what to do sometimes. It's just too big. And the greats - Roger L. Simon, Glenn Reynolds, or whoever - they don't care. It's right there - right in front of our eyes - and nobody cares. This is a cult SOCIETY. It caters to it. It applauds it. Oprah lives in a fucking mansion from it!

And I'm the crazy guy.

FUCK!

Shanna said...

Shanna and Maybee...It's not that the women who cannot support Palin are jealous of her. Instead they see in her some one who cannot be trusted

Or...maybe it's none of those things? Maybe you should ask, or maybe read the words that were actually written and see what they are saying? Sheesh, I can't deal with this shit.


I'm trying to figure out what to say about Crack, since he's having one of those moments that worries me, but I don't know...just know people care. Whatever they think of Palin's chances :)

Ann Althouse said...

"Her bust tour goes to Mt Vernon today..."

Freudian slip of the day!

The Crack Emcee said...

I'm O.K., Shanna, don't worry.

It just gets away from me sometimes.

traditionalguy said...

My friend Crack: You have always wanted to get to the bottom of the powers of destruction and deception that hide within New Age recycled pagan worship practices. But many folks don't want to go there and chose to ignore such stuff thinking that will make it leave them alone. But you have friends that admire your skilled and clear writing on this subject. You are very important.

ken in sc said...

I like Palin. Whether she would make a good candidate or president, I don't know. She's interesting and exciting, and I like that. I felt the same way about Nikki Haley. I voted for her. She is now governor and seems to be doing OK so far. At least she has not embarrassed me yet. I cannot say the same for President Obama. I will vote for anyone but Obama.

Luther said...

"This is a cult SOCIETY"

This is a cult WORLD, Crack. Anyway you want to look at it.

And charlatans have likely taken advantage of it for the last 40,000 years. I know you feel you must, take on that Sisyphus load, and you're an admirable man for it. Just don't become consumed by it.

Mike Bruner said...

Hehe, this pic is great:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.sarahpac.com/uploads/51/SPAC_ONT_Archives-7.jpg?1306769646

reader_iam said...

'incognito

reader_iam said...

That's all on YOU.

The hell it is, Crack Emcee. The hell it is. It is not.

Milwaukee said...

Let us not forget that Palin is so media savvy, and so concerned about her appearances that she would even take a hairdresser with her to a disaster camp in Haiti.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337900/Ready-close--Sarah-Palin-lands-Haiti-dont-care-hair-looks-like-long-helps-them.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Oh wait, that was her daughter. Those who hate Sarah are beyond reason.

reader_iam said...

Crack Emcee:

Your beef, so far as I can tell, orginated with your choice of wife. Well, not everyone made that choice of type of spouse. You, however, apparently, did. How that is everyone else's fault--but not yours!!!!--you have never bothered to explain in a direct way (meaning, why in hell should I read through your entire blog, railing against this and/or that, to get to that particular nugget of insight?).

I feel for you, Crack Emcee. I suspect you'd be surprised at how much I agree with a number of things you say. Some of it is enlightenment; much more of it recognition. Even so and regardless, you can stick the following in your ear:

That's all on YOU.

And to repeat:

The hell it is, Crack Emcee. The hell it is. It is not.

Trooper York said...

You know Terrye you sound like a really nice person but you also really like to bitch abouf Mitch.

You see nobody was ever gonna vote for Mitch. He is Tyrion Lannister.

A midget married to a whore. Just sayn.

Trooper York said...

And victoria is as all american as bortsch and falafal.

The Crack Emcee said...

reader_iam is one of those wonderful souls who sees a man on a ledge and yells, "JUMP!"

Yes, reader_iam, it is all on you.

Right now, I'd say you, specifically.

reader_iam said...

No, Crack Emcee, NOT: "Jump!"

Rather: "Make the leap!" (to not jumping and not accusing others of forcing a choice on you which you forced on yourself).

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Under no circumstances would I ever encourage anyone, much less someone, to jump off a ledge. It's far more likely that I'd go out on a ledge with someone who'd push me off it than that I'd push someone off one. And that's flat.

reader_iam said...

Yet, I won't be pushed over. That's also flat. I defy you to try. You're like that, too, I suspect. Maybe stop signifying otherwise, dude?

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reader_iam said...

As for Crack Emcee's "leaking" computer:

We've been and are going through hard times, too. But I'm willing to put up the first $25 to buy that man a new computer. With all the traffic here at Althouse, and given all the fans of Crack Emcee, it seems to me it wouldn't be hard to very quickly raise enough funds for him to buy a new computer. Should there be a relatively small shortfall, surely Althouse/Meade would help push this effort over the hump and achieve the goal?

Seven Machos said...

This Paul guy sure is an idiot. Jesus Christ.

Juba Doobai! said...

Somehow, I don't think Todd Palin has to suck in his gut.

Althouse, your language here reveals your disdain for Palin. What makes it a joke is that you're gonna vote again for the worst president in US history, and you don't say stuff like this about the phony SOB.

1. "Sarah, she's just like you,"—hell, yeah, she's just like us. She loves this country and won't apologize for it.

2. "she's slouching as if she's not thinking about her looks at all"—uh huh, she's trying to con you but you're too slick for her Althouse.

Juba Doobai! said...

" mccullough said...
Crack,

Given that Palin has no proposals and no record of implementing fiscal reform/ spending cuts/reducing size of government, how are her followers any different than Obama's. "

Ignorant bastard, mccullough. The least you coulda done was read up on the woman's record as mayor, oil and gas commissioner, governor.

Her supporters (not followers cuz we're working along with her to restore America after 0 is finished wrecking her) know her record, which is why we support her.

Jeez, it's one thing to be ignorant. It's another thing to let the whole world know it.

Juba Doobai! said...

Terrye said: "And during the midterms she supported some candidates who did not do very well and that makes me wonder if she has the kind of appeal it takes to win a general election.. "

Jeez, what a crock! Palin had about a 70-75% endorsement win record in the elections of 2010. What other politician can claim success like that?

What else don't you know about Palin that is the basis for your opinion of her?

Freakin' Obama voters who just go for outer gloss without bothering to discover track record....

J said...

Nada mas que la blanca basura de zion.




Jefferson, that hypocrite (but rational hypocrite at least) sadly shakes his head perceiving the current crop of GOP-TP seditionists from... on high (and at most Demo mobsters for that matter).

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