October 9, 2006

"Was it a dud?"

Classic Drudge, with this link, and this picture:



Thanks, Matt, for cheering us up in these hard times.

UPDATE: Apparently, it was a dud. U.S. intelligence officials are saying "seismic readings show that the conventional high explosives used to create a chain reaction in a plutonium-based device went off, but that the blast's readings were shy of a typical nuclear detonation. "

17 comments:

Maxine Weiss said...

Such a slap in the face to all of our fathers and Grandfathers who fought in the Korean war...

...only to have this happen.

Peace, Maxine

Birkel said...

He rooks ronery. So ronery.

Palladian said...

That's such a perfect movie. I just rewatched that scene.

Check out these terrifyingly depressing photographs of North Korea.

Uncle Jimbo said...

I channeled a different movie with Kim sitting in for Slim.

The Norks have Nukes

Cordially,

Uncle J

Pat Patterson said...

Uh, premature fission?

Mark Scarberry said...

Ann,

This comment isn't about the Drudge Dud cartoon but about what happens when Firefox is used to view your blog. When I use Firefox and just go to althouse.blogspot.com or http://althouse.blogspot.com, the October 1 version of your blog always appears, with no posts showing after October 1. That doesn't happen in Internet Explorer, and it doesn't happen in Firefox if I preface the URL with www. For several days I've thought your blog was down because of this problem, and I thought you might want to know about it in case others are having the same problem.

Best wishes,
Mark Scarberry

JimK said...

Mark, that is definitely something odd in the way Firefox handles caching of some Blogger sites. It's so random that, as far as I know, no one has been able to narrow down what Blogger code triggers the "stuck" pages...but clearing cache and restarting the browser usually solves the problem.

Ann Althouse said...

Mark: I've discussed this problem in a post in the past, and Gerry worked on the problem, which Foxfire will fix in the future. For now, the only thing you can do is refresh to get the current page

Noumenon said...

For anyone else using Firefox who couldn't see the image in this post, the source is http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/team_america__world_police/adversary.jpg , you can see it in Internet Explorer, and it doesn't mean anything if you haven't seen Team America: World Police.

Paco Wové said...

Mark-

I have the same problem. The "F5" key is your friend here.

yetanotherjohn said...

Another explination making the rounds is that it wasn't a dud, but a suitcase nuke. Which in a way is much scarier.

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/10/was-north-korea-testing-suitcase-nuke.html

noah said...

Is there another way to get an updated page...I have IE?

For those who care about technical stuff, Wikipedia has a very informative article on nuclear weapons. For instance, I never understood why a gun type weapon cannot use plutonium. Therefore must be implosion device which are way trickier.

salvage said...

Uh what hard times?

Will said...

Noah:
As far as I can recall, the problem with a gun-type mechanism with Pu is that the 2 sub-critical chunks are brought together too slowly, causing a less powerful and predictable reaction. The implosion mechanism, assuming it works correctly, brings the Pu nearly instantly to critical mass, and is therefore more predictable.

buck turgidson said...

If this is classic Drudge than he's a plagiarist. Half-dozen other blogs beat him to the punch... AND to the picture!

noah said...

Will, exactly...and the Wikipedia article explains why that is the case vs U235 which can be detonated with a gun type mechanism altho at quite low yield. The Hiroshima (or Nagasaki I forget which) may be the only gun type bomb ever exploded! The article indicates that S. Africa assembled several gun type bombs but voluntarily dismantled them.

So it is interesting that many people expression worries about nuclear terrorism from gun type weapons but they are likely to be duds unless made with U235...which is very hard to come by! It seems unlikely that a terrorist group would ever acquire the techical expertise to make an implosion weapon particularly since it appears increasingly likely that the NorK bomb was a dud implosion weapon.

knoxgirl said...

Palladian, what a great link. I haven't even looked at all the photos yet, but they are fascinating.

This Frontline about NK is a must-see. Whole episode available online:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/view/