November 28, 2005

"Who’s the real whore here?"

Steve H. is talking about me. In a good way.

MORE: There's a Wikipedia entry for Pajamas Media, now, and not only am I discussed under the heading "Feuds and Flamewars," but the expression "Berkeley house whore" appears.

AND: "Will they succeed? Who cares." Dan from Madison weighs in.

32 comments:

Charlie (Colorado) said...

Another data point here: would Steve's comments be acceptable under the new policy?

Meade said...

So you're getting yourself a motorcycle? Cool!

Steve H. said...

Do you realize that with your linkage to PJM critics, you are rapidly becoming the Instapundit of the Unwashed?

SippicanCottage said...
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jakemanjack said...
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SteveR said...

Never been there and not planning to. It seems the whole thing goes against the whole thing (or something like that)

I'll let Ann fight the fight but I have no reason to doubt her POV.

AllenS said...

Boom-boom in the house? Who knew?

jakemanjack said...

I've never posted a link here, so I'm not sure if this will work.
here goes:
Blogs and Bid media:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_11_27-2005_12_03.shtml#1133201311

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Ann Althouse said...

Jakeman: That was off topic. Also, I'm not appreciating sentences written in all caps. If you have a grievance with Steve, take it up with him elsewhere.

jakemanjack said...

Just would like everyone to know that steve H. tampers with comments. If you post a comment or question on his blog - your comment may not show up how you originally intended.

That is an incredibly dishonest way to run a blog.

jakemanjack said...

Ann,

If I post something at his site, he alters it. I think that since you are linking to his site, everyone here has a right to know that. Also, if he alters my posts, how can I honestly ask him anything?

Ann Althouse said...

Jakeman: He can answer for himself, but I imagine he sees the comments as part of his humor material, sort of a joint writing project. The post itself contains untruths, like the stuff about crayons. I think what is intended as humor is pretty clear, even if it might hurt your feelings. He's "tampering" with his own website, screwing around with it in a way that amuses him. Don't comment there if you don't like it.

jakemanjack said...

Ann,

Please. This isn't about hurt feelings. This is about honesty.
Can you imagine altering the comments of people who post on your web site?

I guess it is all a joke anyway. I have no idea why anyone would link to someone who behaves like an 8 year old.

It's one thing to delete posts - it's yet another thing to alter their content.

The Drill SGT said...

Ann,

I am feminist sebsitive enough to understand that "berserkly House Whore" is a loaded phrase on several levels. But as a UC undergrad and postgrad, I can say that you are not one, etc. :) Anyway, beyond that, I'm surprised that you have that much ego invested in comments that are clearly out of line. Shake it off and move on. You can't control what people say on the net. All you can do is prove them wrong.

keep up the good work and thanks (sort of) for the support on the morale topic. :)

jakemanjack said...

their = there.

Charlie (Colorado) said...

Hmmm. Matthew 7:3 might seem to apply.

In any case, I'm still curious whether calling people "whores" would be permitted under your new comments policy.

Icepick said...

Charlie(Colorado) wrote: I'm still curious whether calling people "whores" would be permitted under your new comments policy.

Calling someone a whore here? BFD. I've been called worse here in the last 24 hours, including a bald-faced statement that I'm a serial killer. (Acquitted!) But I will take this opportunity to deny being a puppy blender. That's some other guy.

vbspurs said...

Steve H. is talking about me. In a good way.

Yeah, Ann, I always had you pegged as an Instatoad too.

In fact, I think that's your new TTLB category.

Pajamistan

*LOL*

Cheers,
Victoria

Ann Althouse said...

"Instatoad." You should be ashamed of yourself for your envy. I never did one thing to play up to GR. And I've never even met then man, btw.

AJD said...

From Steven H to Steven Avery. Or are you still not talking about him? Anyway, since these comments are almost entirely childish, I thought I'd inject some substance:

Interested readers might want to know that Steven Avery is now claiming that Teresa Halbach, the woman who turned up dead and burned on his property, "could still be out there." He is, in other words, adding insult to the ultimate injury.

Who will comdemn this cruelty?

I know: the "innocence" types can't possibly draw any conclusions or make any judgments. They need a court to do that for them.

Funny how it never works that way for alleged police misconduct.

Harkonnendog said...

This might be a bit off topic for this thread, but I just this second realized that Pajamas media is a group blog that connects revenue by linking to other blogs...

But Glenn Reynolds already does that, and I don't think PM can do it better. So wtf were they thinking? Unless they make Glenn Reynolds or Dean Esmay their editor...

What am I missing?

Ann Althouse said...

Harkenodog: I think what you're missing is that the individual blog (and possible a very small group blog) has a life and personality and energy to it that no mass aggregation can ever have. Instapundit by itself is much better than Pajamas Media can be. Taking Glenn our of his perfect natural environment and making him some company man is a horrible idea.

Indie blogging forever. Blog free or die.

bill said...

For another take on all this I recommend Photodude's essay Blogging for all the wrong reasons.

Finn Kristiansen said...

Indie blogging forever. Blog free or die.

That's pretty radical.

peter hoh said...

I love how Wikipedia links to the most banal terms within an article. Reading the PJM entry, I noticed that Luke Ford was described as a "seminal blogger." Thinking that he might have some sort of connection with the body fluid controversy, I clicked to his Wikipedia entry. There I found this delightful disclaimer.

This pornography-related article is a stub.

Well, just as long as his pornography-related member is not a stub.

Bane said...

Oh, this is rich. I don't usually modify my guests comments, except to remove Our Lord's name being taken in vain, or any besmirchment of my Glorious Raiders, but I would make all my commenters speak Chinese, if I wanted. My turf, my rules.

Ann, make Steve say he likes sweet cornbread. Do it! I beseech thee.

Rhesa said...

Just would like everyone to know that steve H. tampers with comments. If you post a comment or question on his blog - your comment may not show up how you originally intended.

That is an incredibly dishonest way to run a blog.


Steve has always done that to some people's comments, esp. if he feels that they're trolling. It's nothing new, nor is it dishonest. You can't expect him to blog according to how his readers dictate - every blogger I've read will tell you it's just the opposite. They blog for themselves, and they run their blogs as they see fit.

And apparently you annoyed Steve somehow. My advice? Bitch about it on your blog instead. ;-p

Jonathan said...

That's a great tactic that I learned from Steve H. Every once in a while some jackhole leaves a strangely hostile comment on your blog, and you respond in a restrained way, and he replies with another over-the-top abusive comment and you realize that he is trolling. You could delete and/or ban him but that's no fun, and some of these guys return under new identities.

Far better to turn the tables by editing their comments -- change the commenter's URL to "www.whitehouse.gov" or edit his words to reflect his sincere apology for being an ass. This method works great because it reverses the cost/benefit equation for trolling.

Stephen said...

Maybe you'll like this better than Jeff did:

http://acepilots.com/mt/2005/11/27/let-that-be-your-last-battlefield/

The Commissar

Ann Althouse said...

Jonathan: I can't ban people or edit comments in Blogger. I can only delete (or switch to monitor). Some folks condemn themselves with their own words.

Jonathan said...

Ann: I didn't know that about Blogger. I was thinking in terms of Movable Type. Anyway, I'm not suggesting you should use such a tactic (or need to), merely that it works for some of us.