July 3, 2025
And does this review of a review need a review?
I'm reading "Obama’s Trump-Russia collusion report was corrupt from start: CIA review" (NY Post): "A bombshell new CIA review of the Obama administration’s spy agencies’ assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Donald Trump was deliberately corrupted by then-CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who were 'excessively involved' in its drafting, and rushed its completion in a 'chaotic,' 'atypical' and 'markedly unconventional' process that raised questions of a 'potential political motive.' Further, Brennan’s decision to include the discredited Steele dossier, over the objections of the CIA’s most senior Russia experts, 'undermined the credibility' of the assessment."
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The second link is dead both your link and the one on the original article that you linked to above. That just increases the conspiracy factor, LOL
Clapper and Brennan--two ugly peas in a pod.
I took the second link out. It was working a few minutes ago.
And now just in time to prevent any Democrats from being held to account - Trump has announced that our intelligence community will no longer be used to hound political enemies.
Weird how Democrats always benefit whenever they're out of power and also when they're in power.
Here's a good article on the subject.
And while we're at it, can we discuss Christopher Wray burying the investigation into Chinese meddling in the 2020 election? (Sorry, no link, but it's in the news lately.)
https://nypost.com/2025/07/02/us-news/obamas-trump-russia-collusion-report-was-corrupt-from-start-cia-review/
But anyone who was paying attention has known this for years. You had to be willfully blind not to see it.
some wag described the method of the danchenko dossier, much like wormuld's list of fake sources in our man in havana,
this is why they masked the sources, why it was a low confidence, D grade, and why the parrots repeated it,
The National Intelligence Complex (NIC) is one of those conspiracy theories on track to become a textbook conspiracy fact by year's end.
They could turn it into a movie - Dr. Strange Bedfellows: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the National Intelligence Complex (NIC)
Anyone with an IQ in the triple digits knew it was corrupt 8 years ago- this is old news now.
What's amazing is that millions still don't believe how corrupt these people are and many who do, don't care. I would vote for any random person alive over the average person we've had running things the last 30 years. Somehow we have selected for or created the most corrupt political class America has ever had. That's one big reason I like Trump's recent atypical appointees, regardless of any shortcomings I see.
>was deliberately corrupted by then-CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper<
That was a true troika of evil. But that malign mf Brennan was, as it were, the shaft horse.
Wait until Palantir takes over. It'll be a bunch of quantum computers conspiring with each other to kill Trump's kids.
its an apparat like that depicted in the comic dystopia, Brazil, but it often actually traps real people like George Papadopoulos or Carter Page or General Flynn
Then, Biden's puppetmasters bullied Twitter, invented Dark Brandon from an empty husk, pretended Kamala had a brain, created the Ministry of Disnformation, and hired Mary Poppins as their very own Joseph Goebbels.
It'll all make great base content for novels and movies someday.
"And that's the rest of the story"
--Paul Harvey
Unless the NY Times runs it as a headline in 96 point font, I'm just going to assume this story didn't happen.
It only crippled Trump's first term. Nothing to see here.
but it rarely works that way, see the film missing that earned an academy award in 1982, about the Pinochet regime, they left out a whole lot of context,
Strangelove references never get old
like the subjects ties to the MIR, the Marxist millitant groups,
that sought to take over the Allende government,
yes a wry satire on General Lemay, but the Stavka Soviet High Command was just as committed,
I have never read anything positive about James Comey. Not once, and every time I hear more about him it gets worse.
Comey should be shot.
"Does this review need a review?" Hey, if the people implicated in this report want to offer a detailed, point-by-point rebuttal, reasonable folks will hear them out. But if all they do is label it partisan hackery, without showing where and how the review is in error, that'll speak volumes.
And yet we're to take on faith that Biden drew 81 million votes.
you didn't see the Showtime film, that painted him as a hero, and went there with the Russian hookers, a mutineer in the Bush years, who may have enabled the Madrid bombing plot by his enterference, a well paid look out for HSBC,
but its also Brennan, a stock character played by Daniel Benzali, a former young Marxist and an Islamist sympathizer
in his elder years,
"I have never read anything positive about James Comey. Not once, and every time I hear more about him it gets worse."
He pushed the Steele Dossier hard, when he knew its origins. And let's not forget his giving Hillary an out when she should have been prosecuted. He was particularly malignant in this saga.
one is reminded of enemy of the state, the deep state apparatchik played by jon voight, needed some info so he created this pretext to trap the labor lawyer,
Yeah...James Comey is a fucking traitor. Change my mind.
Never any mention from Hack-Soviet press that the Clinton Foundation was flushed with Russian money - during her stint as Sec of State.
Brennan is pure evil. he is and evil evil man.
you look at all the reporters that parroted this story, and then look at what they refused to cover,
Someone like the Coen Brothers should make a comedy about the poor schmuck Papadopoulos who got caught up in this outrageous conspiracy. I'd pay to see it!
well burn after reading was close to the mark,
clooney did look like the doofus,
All 3 of these men are traitors and they deserve to hang or be shot.
luckily they are way past the statute of limitations,
RideSpaceMountain said...
Yeah...James Comey is a fucking traitor. Change my mind.
And he deserves to hang or be shot.
Oh, and let's not forget Comey's egregious actions against Michael Flynn. I mean, WTF?
Everyone who defends these men is an enemy of freedom. They should not be allowed to stay in this country.
Only people who would institute and support a fascist regime to maintain power would support these men.
There are thousands of people in DC that conspired with them.
They are all traitors and should hang or be shot. The executions should be public and taught to 6th graders for generations to make sure all know this is unacceptable.
Eastwood should come out of retirement and co-star with Comey, Brennan and Clapper in a remake of Hang 'Em High.
Same as before, everyone gets a rope but Clint.
but they won't, and the prestige press still celebrates them,
Ratcliffe: "They stamped it as Russian collusion and then classified it so nobody could see it."
not to mention the georgia tech, scam with the Trump organization and Crowdstrike,
https://j6patriotnews.com/dc-judges-series-judge-randolph-moss the guy behind the latest scam,
What a Surprise!
The CIA was working to overthrow an elected government..
the Only difference was: this time it was OUR government.
The CIA is Evil
“Don’t do the crime, if ya can’t do teh time”
—— Tony Baretta
… or take a little neck-stretching…
Yancey Ward said...
"Anyone with an IQ in the triple digits knew it was corrupt 8 years ago"
Jersey Fled said...
"anyone who was paying attention has known this for years.
You had to be willfully blind not to see it.."
inga? mark? gadfly? lonejustice? Any comments from any of you?
well its something new, some might suggest not, see watergate 1974, they really tried to pull this off but only showtime bought the story,
“luckily they are way past the statute of limitations,”
Just change the law, like the asshole Democrats did in New York!
The Office of the Inspector General's Report was so full of weasel words as to be meaningless.
like with felt, that fairy tale they pushed with liam neeson as the honorable bureau super grade, well that really didn't sell,
since he ran the break in teams, against actual enemies of the nation, but then they categorized them in one place,
Bill Ayers and his Havana groomed crew were such a menace,
https://spectator.org/the-feather-merchants-senior-leaders-subverted-marine-corps/ likewise,
This is like "Joe Biden has dementia," and "COVID originated in a lab."
Tell us something we don't already know.
thinks that were obvious for a 1,000 Alex
"Brennan’s decision to include the discredited Steele dossier . . . 'undermined the credibility' of the assessment." Measured by veracity, yes. But the only credibility needed was political: the hit job was perfectly "credible" with Dems and MSM, therefore useful. It worked.
its called poisoning the jury pool, so of course they will believe ridiculous things,
meanwhile Putin started amassing troops as soon as Biden took power, the billions in oil revenue were so helpful
but its also Brennan, a stock character played by Daniel Benzali, a former young Marxist and an Islamist sympathizer
in his elder years,
Okay, so I guess it's Brennan who's the former Marxist and later Islamist sympathizer, not Benzali. There is some similarity in the baldheadedness and perpetual scowl, but per imdb.com Benzali didn't play Brennan.
I dont always agree with Achilles, but in this case, speaking as a foreigner in another country and with no direct stake any longer (perhaps enhancing my nonpartisan nature) he makes a good case for mass hangings. If anything justified the creation of an institutional death penalty (as in to condemn the personnel of a guilty institution, simply for being members) this is it.
And yes several of Bidens executive actions, beginning with finally permitting Nordstream 2, gave Putin "permission" to start his war. But all that was just stupidity.
Not reported in the New York Times? Curious. They are usually on top of these government intelligence things.
Nothing says 'line in the sand' like "Do you have any last words?", but it's also a slippery slope, just ask the Jacobins.
Agree with many though, if anything warranted stiff consequences, this is it.
The US intelligence "community" is obviously honeycombed with partisans. It has always been so. But it's worse now and will continue in that direction.
This review seems to have reached a conclusion that is likely to be true.
With the stakes of a political coup being so high, it would take hanging to dissuade traitors like this, yet we give them no punishment at all. In fact, they got away with it and awarded. There is a reason that treason is supposed to carry a bigger penalty than even the largest theft, yet we treat it like having an affair during a separation.
“Yeah...James Comey is a fucking traitor. Change my mind”
Well, to be fair, his deputy (McCabe) was worse. He (or more accurately, his wife) took over a half million dollar bribe from the Clintons, in the form of campaign contributions. He, his FBI attorney, Lisa Page, and her lover, Peter Strzok, ran the RussiaGate investigation, and related abuses, from around his $75k conference room table.
I could have said, like those played by Benzali, cause and effect, doesn't seem enter these people's minds,
ah Strzok another Company legacy, who pretended he had something to do with the Poteyev case against the Chapman ring,
Comey, Brennan, and Clapper should be shot. Strzok should be flayed alive, Ashurnasirpal-style, and then beaten till he begs for death. I'm being merciful...
poteyev was the Jeremy Irons character in Red Sparrow,
They certainly should be in jail. Instead, they're being paid by CNN.
which is it's own circle of hell, I suppose
To answer the question, no. Except it really needs a good legal review in a court that will never happen, and that's the problem. As many noted, we all knew this years ago. Not just speculated that this was the case, which goes back further, but we knew the Steele Dossier was invented and utilized by the Intelligence Community (CIA or FIB, others, all) as grounds to spy on and disrupt Trump's Presidency. This is the stuff Nixon was run out of office for even suggesting as a possible act to do. Obama did it, and half the country still doesn't believe it occurred at all, and none of the conspirators spent a moment in jail.
However, the damage is done. And it has been 10 years. I less worried now about justice being served to those that did this. I very concerned that I have seen nothing put in place to safeguard it from happening again. I'm not even sure if it isn't happening again in a less overt way.
This is treason against a sitting President, and the people that committed it have convinced millions that it was the other way around while enriching themselves.
its very unlikely that patel or bongino would let this happen,
there was definitely a blood price to this treachery, as the Ukraine devouring killed hundreds of thousands on both sides,
Dont forget John McCain was involved in all this. When he was given the Steele Dossier (to launder it and make it appear more authentic) he didn't tell Trump about it. His fellow Republican (hoho), but gave it James Comey. Of course Comey already had it. And McCain knew Comey had it. It was all part of the charade.
McCain also said that "Trump Russiagate will be worse then Watergate" in May 2017 because he had access to "Secret Intelligence".
And lets not forget McCabe and Rod Rosenstein. And the "Honorable" Robert Mueller.
"its very unlikely that patel or bongino would let this happen"
But the next time a democrat administration is in power they'll look at the gains to be had, and the zero consequences to be suffered, and may act accordingly. The only thing stopping it is integrity, and if you get another Obama in power, well …
The comments here remind me of twitter. Center-rightwingers do two things when confronted with this sort of information. Hysterical bluster (shoot 'em all as Traitors!!!), or handwaving "Everyone (aka smart people like me) already knew this".
those who read the Samizdat, after looking at the blank pages of the Times and the Post not to mention the Journal were aware, but those who believe claims of 'genocide' without any proof, well you can't do anything with them,
they will buy the latest tripe from Maryland mans lawyers,
This was a scandal on par with Watergate but probably actually WORSE because it weaponized FBI and CIA, and literally tried to paint the opposition leader as a traitor.
It sounds like a left wing movie plot about Chile or something.
Allende (Trump) was going to win but the right wing thugs and spies lied and said he was a communist agent of the USSR.
This thing also had deep ramifications in foreign policy,
they went after Manafort, but not who he was holding the money for, Weber and Podesta, the latter took the money and bought terrible art,
You know, of course, that this review was done by John Ratcliffe, who was nominated and appointed as CIA Director by President Donald Trump.
they were lobbying for Akhmatov who looted Ukraine to buy property in the UK, for instance
Leland 11:15
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sums it up perfectly.
Bagoh 10:59-
...sums it up perfectly
"You know, of course, that this review was done by John Ratcliffe, who was nominated and appointed as CIA Director by President Donald Trump."
As others have noted, this has been known for years.
"Hysterical bluster (shoot 'em all as Traitors!!!), or handwaving "Everyone (aka smart people like me) already knew this"."
Sorry, but WE did know, and we were shouting it from the rooftops until they censored everything we were saying, and called us all conspiracy theorists. Funny, how ALL of the conspiracies we were talking about all were proven true.
Why not challenge the review based on substance, lonejustice? Here's a synopsis to help you along.
It sounds like the deep state wanted to stop the use of the steel dossier against the objections of executive branch appointees.
It's kind of like the House Impeachment of Donald Trump. Did you ever expect any other outcome or conclusion? Of course not. Same here.
What in the review do you disagree with, lonejustice?
the fisa application was in violation of section 13 and 14, of the act, when inaccuracies are submitted they must be corrected, as when carter page was presented as a soviet agent instead of one who had enabled the discovery of two agents,
the one for a legitimate phone call, or a call to non violent assembly,
https://x.com/mypetjawa/status/1940477817881612352 they are going there,
Indict Goobers - er I mean - Clapper, Comey, Brennan - maybe even Obama.
Why not?
Yes.
Brennan, Comey, and Clapper should be tried and shot. Obama should be tried and imprisoned for treason.
Why one might think that John Brennan's red face and pounding of the table was an implicit admission of guilt. But that assumes that John Brennan has a conscience, which I doubt.
I reference Benzali from the lesser known Agency with Wolfgang Petersen,
I say we stomp him! Then we tattoo him! Then we hang him!
you forgot tar and feathering,
Make 'em ride the rail!
Clapper, Comey, and Brennan deserve a spell in Gator Gitmo.
Wake me up if/when anybody will actually suffer any consequences for what they did.
"RideSpaceMountain said...
Yeah...James Comey is a fucking traitor. Change my mind.
And he deserves to hang or be shot."
No, he doesn't, but if that's the most we can do with him, it's a start.
So lonejustice has got nothing. The guy's a former federal prosecutor, a self-proclaimed conservative, and yet he can not look dispassionately at the actions of our justice and intelligence agencies in this sordid affair and utter a reproach.
Brennan, Comey, Clapper, and Obama are traitors. What a shock. None will experience anything approaching proper legal consequences.
Ouroboreview
Didn't we already know, back in 2016, that the "Dossier" was phony? And that Brennan was the one who promoted it? I'm pretty sure I knew, back then, and believe me I have no deep-state sources.
Why no tag for John Brennan, one wonders? On the list of nefarious characters, whose personality is at odds with patriotic concepts, I would rate him as someone worth keeping tabs on someone with a high destructive coefficient. I consider him to be one of the truly evil Washington DC insiders, a man with a dark history of palace intrigues, domestic and international.
"Didn't we already know, back in 2016, that the "Dossier" was phony?"
We did. Of course what's important is so did Comey and Brennan. I think there's some institutional benefit for the agencies to admit it but yeah, we knew.
Now as to what Mueller knew, we'd need Inga to weigh in.
If the Democrats release a report about an investigation (Russian collusion), then Democrats all say that the conclusions are true, and Republicans all say that the conclusions are false. When the Republicans release a report about an investigation (Russian collusion), then Republicans all say that the conclusions are true, and Democrats all say that the conclusions are false. This, unfortunately, is the world in which we now live.
lonejustice: That doesn't mean one side isn't right and one side isn't wrong on a particular issue.. You're supposed to use your own brain to decide for yourself. So, what is your assessment of the saga known as Russiagate?
You're a prosecutor, right? Are you saying no one is ever guilty because the defense attorney made an argument for the innocence of his client?
Cuz that IS what you're saying.
Nobody is using their brains to decide anything. Like Scott Adams has made clear, politics today is just a sporting event where you root for your side to win and the other side to lose. There is no concern about truth on either side.
That's pathetic, lonejustice. Just because either side would lie to advance their cause, doesn't mean what either side says is always a lie.
"And does this review of a review need a review?" YES.
Something very sus about the CIA’s milquetoast “lessons learned” review of Brennan’s ICA on 2016 Russia election “interference.”
Not only did Ratcliffe pull punches on many aspects of Brennan/Comey/Clapper treasonous conduct, it appears he will not release to Congress a more exhaustive investigation into the ICA produced by Devin Nunes years ago.
https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1940891453179437510
https://x.com/LeeSmithDC/status/1940904558244647298
"Not only did Ratcliffe pull punches on many aspects of Brennan/Comey/Clapper treasonous conduct, it appears he will not release to Congress a more exhaustive investigation into the ICA produced by Devin Nunes years ago."
Well, that'll make lonejustice happy.
All the feelings and outrages do not matter. What matters is what happens next. outcomes.
What we do know is the modern democrat party are corrupt lying mobsters- with cultists as loyalist supporters... addicted to hate and lies.
oooo More good new for Trump! and US!
"What matters is what happens next. outcomes."
There won't be any. THAT is what is so scary about this. That lesson will be learned (by both side, Mr. Prosecutor, lonejustice).
wrong thread
Original Mike - sorry - I placed that comment is in the wrong thread.
as far as outcomes to corruption on the left - yeah - nothing.
That's OK, Peachy. It fit pretty well.
What was done to Mike Flynn, I want to see done to Clapper, Brennen, Comey, and Wray. Do a long drawn out prosecution, plant innuendo in the news, charge them with every crime imaginable even if it's a stretch. Humiliate them. Make the process be the punishment.
"What was done to Mike Flynn…"
What was done to Michael Flynn was despicable. He was trying to hit the ground running and he's hit with the Logan Act? Horseshit.
A drastic act, like proclaiming an institutional death penalty (condemning an entire institution to "death", dissolution and dismissal of all employees, and a decree of damnatio memoriae), would produce a useful pause in the excessive politicization of bureaucratic institutions. It is not just an emotional reaction.
There is a time and place for collective punishments. It happens regularly in the private sector through business failure - sometimes just, sometimes not. But a bureaucratic institution cannot "fail" that way. There must be another, directed, externally imposed form of collective punishment.
I said…"What was done to Michael Flynn was despicable. He was trying to hit the ground running and he's hit with the Logan Act? Horseshit."
And Comey BRAGGED about it.
"[Trump] and Putin were both targeted by the same intelligence system, the CIA."
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