Why did the big manhunt take 43 hours?
ADDED: Here's my other question. Boelter (it seems) attacked 2 political figures and also their spouse. Isn't it unusual for an assassin (if that's what he was) to go after the spouse?
June 16, 2025
Why did it take so long to find Vance Boelter if he was right near his house with his getaway car parked in front?
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Minnesota.
They’re always the last place you look.
“Data released by the Minnesota DFL Party on Sunday showed Boelter voted in last year’s presidential primary election, but not as a Democrat. The Republican Party of Minnesota declined to share its presidential primary election voter data on Boelter, with a spokesman saying the party considers that data to be private under current law.” ~ Minnesota Star Tribune
Because building a narrative of complicity takes time.
He put a sign on the door that said, "I'm not here. Come back later."
Some cops are Columbo. Some are Barney Fife.
Las Vegas Shooter vibes. Luigi vibes. Butler vibes.
"...The Republican Party of Minnesota declined to share its presidential primary election voter data on Boelter, with a spokesman saying the party considers that data to be private under current law....”
Intelligence test FAIL.
Why did it take so long to find Vance Boelter if he was right near his house with his getaway car parked in front? Why did the big manhunt take 43 hours?
They thought nobody could be that stupid. They didn’t realize he was a Democrat.
No one expects a stay-at-home criminal on the run.
He put a sign on the door that said, "I'm not here. Come back later."
Ha
Didn’t Minnesota defund its police back when that was all the rage?
The police were defunded. Minnesota is a shithole. Surprised they caught him at all.
There will be many more like him over the next decade.
..as was posted in the open thread Sheriff Dawanna was crying at the news…
Just a reminder:
"Brooklyn Park police officers arrived just in time to see Boelter shoot Mark Hortman through the open door of the home, the complaint says. It says they exchanged gunfire with Boelter, who fled inside the home before escaping the scene."
So not only did they take 43 hours to catch him, they let Boelter escape from the scene of the crime after exchanging gunfire with him.
A tale of two assassins. Republicans view Boelter’s politically-inspired murder with horror. Democrats treat Luigi Mangione as a folk hero.
so many things are really odd and do not add up.
Including the "He's a MAGA!" It's all about abortion.
We will not be allowed to ask questions.
I wish I could say "Let's wait and see what the real facts are," but in the current media/law enforcement climate it appears that the facts stay hidden and get covered under a blizzard of preferred narratives.
I think Lazarus Lake will see an opportunity here for a new long-distance foot race.
Amazing how fast they found his voting records (not really, only the DNC saying he didn’t vote in their primary, and of course none of us have heard of crossover voting in deep blue states with open primaries) but not him hiding out at his home. Priorities, I guess.
The left desperately needed the anti-MAGA headlines.
another happy coincidence.
MAGA assassins are everywhere!
Just ignore every past violence - like Bernie Bro shooter, Trump assassins, Biden's Illegals who end up killing innocent American citizens... in parks on our roads.. The left sure do have their headline on this one.
Regarding the voting record, notice that they are speaking of a PRIMARY election. In MN, you cannot cross political parties in a primary election, so many Democrats use the strategy of voting as a Republican so that they can vote AGAINST an (R) candidate. Not the damning ‘gotcha’ you think it is.
"Isn't it unusual for an assassin (if that's what he was) to go after the spouse?"
In my mind, "assassin" denotes a sense of professionalism, as if trained for the job. This guy just sounds like a nut.
He probably didn't vote at all in the primary - as primary voting is usually a low percentage of all voters.
Yes there's a LOT about this case is unusual. What's NOT unusual is the Leftists trying to politicize the murders. Only crazy people and lynch mobs typically go after the spouses of their political hatred. So not only is this episode highly unusual, the investigation is inexplicable and commentary is crazytalk for the most part. What's up with the wife dashing towards Canada with weapons and cash and passport(s)? Why did he have talkative "room mates" if he had a wife?
No. Think about it realistically.
The assassin is there to kill his target.
Where do you think the husband was when the police were at his door in the middle of the night? He's not a professional. Spouses are there? They're getting killed too. I heard the senator's wife was shielding their daughter with her body, but that will likely be a story. Still, it sounds like the children in that home weren't shot (and the adult children at the home where the female politician and her husband were killed were not present there anymore). Killing's killing. Life is cheap. We don't have to live like this, but choosing hate, force and violence over love, reason and intelligence is not a good look.
Is this why the Democrats seem so desperate to spin this politically?
Hortman was dehumanized by members of her party after she was the lone DFL member who broke ranks to vote for a compromise legislation with Republicans shortly before she was murdered.
Hortman: "I did what leaders do… I stepped up and got the job done for the people of Minnesota.... I think some of them [her caucus members] were very angry. I think their job was to make folks who voted for that bill to feel like crap. And I think that they succeeded."
Video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK44RZBOYMM/
“Some cops are Columbo. Some are Barney Fife.“
The local police took the initiative to check the Hortman residence. By doing a welfare check they prevented whatever further violence Vance Boelter had planned.
The local police took the initiative to check the Hortman residence. By doing a welfare check they prevented whatever further violence Vance Boelter had planned.
That's certainly one of stories spun out in the immediate aftermath. Like everything about this case it raises more questions than it answers.
Was there a 43-minute delay before that bright idea (as reported)? The same cops left scene 1 to go to crime scene 2 (as reported)? Why didn't a separate unit go there ASAP? Were any other people on The List checked on? When? How?
The local police took the initiative to check the Hortman residence. By doing a welfare check they prevented whatever further violence Vance Boelter had planned.
Right. Other than further violence to the two dead people at the residence, what "further violence" did the obviously necessary investigation of the murder scene prevent? Why is this somehow evidence of exemplary police work--as opposed to what police are routinely supposed to do?
Thank goodness Boelter was a lawful gun owner — one less charge for his legal team to grapple with.
Trying to parse this sentence: "Boelter (it seems) attacked 2 political figures and also their spouse. " Were the victims in a strange modern marriage, or did the killer also attack his own wife.
Apparently the cops have never read The Purloined Letter.”
I dislike saying this, but perhaps he was targeting the wives because governors frequently appoint wives to temporarily fill seats when their husbands die.
Or, more pragmatically, both couples answered the door as a pair and he didn't want to leave witnesses.
Or, most pragmatically, because the shooter was a fucknut.
@Althouse, did blogger swallow my last post, or did your spam filter censor me (again)?
I see everyone is pretending the Democrats had an actual primary last year. Only a moron would have taken the time to vote in it since the winner was declared months before it was held.
"Brooklyn Park police officers arrived just in time to see Boelter shoot Mark Hortman through the open door of the home, the complaint says. It says they exchanged gunfire with Boelter, who fled inside the home before escaping the scene."
How did he acquire the getaway car?
" they let Boelter escape from the scene of the crime after exchanging gunfire with him"
I wondered about that, but if the Hortmans were still alive, they were the priority. Hopefully, they did something beside watch them bleed out. A half century ago, the Boy Scouts said lower the head and raise the legs to maintain blood flow to the brain as long as possible--first aid I've never seen done on TV or movies.
What brought police to the first crime scene?
pretending the Democrats had an actual primary last year
It's a candidate. It's an election. It's our Choice... uh, choice. Super Democratics! Inspire Planned Politicianhood (PP)? The irony.
DataRepublican (little r) wrote on X:
Boelter was a 7/11 manager, but constantly promoted himself as a corporate executive. He claims the title "Dr." based on a Ed.D. in Leadership. He chased every opportunity to get in front of an audience: volunteering for Governor Walz's "Workforce Development" initiatives, speaking at conferences, anything to be seen as a leader.
And in videos of him in African churches, you see him light up. He's performing. He's preaching vague, positive platitudes to foreign audiences. He wanted to be somebody. He wanted to be followed.
I think he is a man addicted to attention and status, who tried to get it through a lot of means. And when that attention dried up (possibly whoever cut him off his funding in Congo), he snapped. I believe Vance Boelter committed violence as a last, desperate attempt to be glorified: under the delusion that killing abortion rights activists would make him a martyr or hero.
This is not Christianity. I watched his sermons. They were designed to provoke emotional applause, not spiritual conviction.
"He claims the title "Dr." based on a Ed.D. in Leadership."
All that's missing is a claim Cherokee ancestry and he would've had that coveted spot near Jill and Lizzy. Alas.
He has a manifesto. Over the years I've learned every sane and sober fuckwit has a manifesto.
"He claims the title "Dr." based on a Ed.D. in Leadership."
Well, if he actually has an Ed.D--in whatever speciality--he can correctly ask to be addressed as a Doctor, as he has a doctorate. Everyone with a doctorate is a "doctor" (in their respective fields).
Dr. Demento, maybe…
Oh I'm sure he can "correctly ask to be addressed" as Doctor, Kook. The question is whether Jimmy One Percenter and Quantavius Mob Deep will honor his request at FMC Rochester.
I'm thinking they won't.
Well, if he actually has an Ed.D--in whatever speciality--he can correctly ask to be addressed as a Doctor, as he has a doctorate. Everyone with a doctorate is a "doctor" (in their respective fields).
Unless it's a J.D. Ask our hostess if the UW folks ever called her anything other than Professor. Academics disdain calling attorneys "Doctor". They don't regard a Juris Doctor as a terminal degree.
Even so, Jill Biden's bullshit Doctor of Education from U of Delaware might just as easily have been found in a Cracker Jack box. The only reason why she insisted on using the title, Dr. Biden, was to create an aura of prestige and achievement to which she was not entitled...not unlike Joe's phony aura of mental acuity.
- Krumhorn
Why did the big manhunt take 43 hours?
This pretty much ensures that a cover up is in process.
ADDED: Here's my other question. Boelter (it seems) attacked 2 political figures and also their spouse. Isn't it unusual for an assassin (if that's what he was) to go after the spouse?
Because this wasn't an I don't like your politics attack.
This was in response to some sort of betrayal that the killer took personally. There will also be past interactions at the family level. They are making sure we don't hear about it which is why this is all being slow rolled.
NeggNogg said...
I dislike saying this, but perhaps he was targeting the wives because governors frequently appoint wives to temporarily fill seats when their husbands die.
Or, more pragmatically, both couples answered the door as a pair and he didn't want to leave witnesses.
Or, most pragmatically, because the shooter was a fucknut.
You don't get nearly as much attention for shooting a man as you do for shooting a woman.
I am also curious to hear from the woman that was married this man and was apparently aware of what he was up to.
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