June 21, 2025
"There are a lot of conversations happening right now. People know the movement is stuck. They know we’ve gone too far. They know we’ve lost the thread."
Said said Dana Beyer, "a physician and longtime trans activist in Maryland," quoted in "How the Transgender Rights Movement Bet on the Supreme Court and Lost/The inside story of the case that could set the movement back a generation" (NYT)(free-access link).
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The "movement" requires the mutilation of minors? They'll be much better off without that.
Everybody's kink is weird, but some of them hurt others.
I know
I should take the time to read this whole article, and become better informed. But it's a summer Saturday morning, and just too beautiful outside.
people Just NEED to Understand..
This was always, Only about the money.
The reason for the mutilation and the drug treatments, was to bring in BIG BUCKS for Big Medico.
The sterilization of a large part of america was just gravy
"Rights?"
There are no transgender rights.
want to see trans treatments disappear?
change the law, and make it elective; and NOT covered by insurance. The number of people willing to PAY for a lifetime of hormone replacement treatments is Vanishingly small..
Heck! for fun; make SSRI's elective, and see how many people stay on them either!
This psychotic and near criminal obsession… how the hell did it ever even enter the public domain?
In the US we protect our children in many ways. This is appropriately under that umbrella. Once you reach age 18 there should still be guardrails but go for it.
I can't stand the "care" framing though.
There are no transgender rights.
Yes. there are transgender rights. They have the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else.
Like all modern activists, they want special rights because they see themselves as so very very special.
I blame Covid. Would the plaintiffs have had a better shot at convincing the Court to "trust the science" if we hadn't all seen how misguided and even dangerous relying on the doctors and the scientists turned out to be?
"They have the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else."
Yes, that's what I meant. There are no "transgender" rights. There's just rights.
And for those slow on the uptake; transgenderism is about power. They want to FORCE you to make certain statements against fact. For example, they want to FORCE you to say that men can get pregnant. Because if they can get you to say that, they have complete and utter control over you and that's what gets them off sexually. It's no accident they wish to do this most with children.
Lost the thread?
They spun the thread.
"This psychotic and near criminal obsession… how the hell did it ever even enter the public domain?"
In 1973, the authors of the DSM, version 3 were essentially FORCED to remove the section of this American Psychiatric Association handbook where they defined "being gay" as a mental illness.
Now we're here.
" ... how misguided and even dangerous relying on the doctors and the scientists turned out to be"
Doctors and scientists did the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. That's how dangerous doctors and scientists can be.
They are uniquely without ethics.
It seems you can only browbeat people so long before pushback begins. The trans movement has pushed their extreme views very hard, and now the scientific studies and the law are catching up to deny their wishes.
The "Movement?" I thought we were talking about scientifically valid medical treatments. Huh...
"Movement"?! There was no movement. Kids just like storytime at the library!
The transgender spectrum (e.g. homosexual orientation) is politically congruent ("=") but not equal.
I think these varmints have had enough of my attention, now. They're a Death Cult. Stay away from my kids and my grandkids.
The linked article does, in the end, acknowledge the slender (even nonexistent) scientific evidence in favor of juvenile gender-changing intervention. That lack has not, in the slightest, changed the views of those who push children into permanent mutilation as a viable treatment. Like teenagers latching onto a fad, they are angry that adults have started to pay attention and limit the worst aspects of the folly.
" physician and longtime trans activist"
They broke my rice bowl!!!!!
— they resented the incremental, assimilationist politics that had won the right to same-sex marriage. They sought to deconstruct assumptions about what was normal — to dismantle bourgeois institutions, not seek inclusion in them
Strangio, the ACLU tranny activist attorney, is aptly named (although Strangia is more correct if we adhere to the requirements of grammar). In reading the article I was struck by 3 significant leftie defects that make them such hateful, nasty little shits:
- they fervently believe their own virtuous horseshit
- they sought to redeploy the “settled science” lie
- they used the same academic terrorism that was revealed in the climategate emails regarding publication of dissenting papers.
Strangia self-describes as a constitutional lawyer who doesn’t believe in the constitution and says out loud that the Supreme Court is “a vile institution”. Oddly, that self-description is more accurate than her self-proclaimed identity as a man even if she lopped off her tits and sewed up her glory hole.
Mental illness is rampant among these self-mutilators.
- Krumhorn
I don't know that the debate around whether or not the 60's civil rights movement ever "went too far" has ever been settled. I don't believe the film 'Malcom X' (1992), for example, would have garnered such wide popularity, if the argument had been sufficiently put to rest.
Saying they "went too far" ought to give 'surrender' vibes to it's most ardent proponents. Pass the pop corn, please.
Yeah, time to regroup, dial it back, and keep on fighting. Later, you can start pushing faster. Leftists are geniuses compared to the Right. Conservatives don't even have a "Movement". LOL.
So medical mutilation of children does not involve sex discrimination, is not protected by the Constitution, and should therefore be left to legislatures to decide. But SSM shouldn't?
..."The inside story of the case that could set the movement back a generation"
"....Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil.....What starts out here as a mass movement ends up as a racket, a cult, or a corporation." - Eric Hoffer
Two words: Chase Strangio.
“Everybody's kink is weird, but some of them hurt others.”
[ed.note: no dogs died during this admission]
This case was supposed to be the coronation of the first trans-gender lawyer to win a case at the Supreme Court. The effusively praise-worthy paeans for Chase Strangio were already written and ready to publish. Now some are wondering if having a mentally deluded individual advocating for your cause in front of the Supreme Court was the best strategy.
While homosexuals are in the spectrum, gender corruption, dysfunction, and forward-looking therapy is thus far not politically congruent ("="). SIC has demonstrated no skill to predict the majority who will be harmed or receive no benefit from sexual mutilation. The hacktivists (pun intended) will have to have Planned for another baby to abort in order to sell their handmade tale for em-pathetic support. That said, civil unions for all consenting adults. Strike the albinophobic banner, curb the albinophobic rhetoric. Empathize.
When you lose the thread, the amendment sags, the whole caves, the blocs dissemble.
Set it back a generation? In a generation it will be mocked and reviled as barbarous lunacy. The frontal lobotomy of its day.
And all the people that pushed for it will have no memory of doing so.
Sometimes I think some people just need to find a decent paying job that makes them sweat and makes them strong. That job would demand hard work, mental toughness, and a hunger to beat the band at the end of the day. They’d actually use of all of the other parts of their bodies to build their lives and livelihoods.
Ah, the movement. If Clinton had won in 16 the supremes would be issuing an opinion that pedophilia is a protected sexual orientation.
Some states allow it. Some states forbid it. This is how it should be. The Roe era is over
"They know we’ve gone too far."
Leftspeak for "We didn't mean to tell people what we're actually trying to do."
“a constitutional lawyer who fundamentally doesn’t believe in the Constitution.”
Just came to post that caption.
The plaintiffs argued it was sex discrimination for TN to prohibit trans care for minors. But the TN law applied equally to both girls and boys—hence no sex discrimination. Why did Strangio ever think he had a chance of winning?
A laxative, a lot of fiber, are sure to progress a stuck movement while minimizing flatulent rhetoric.
pedophilia is a protected sexual orientation.
It depends on the definition of "is" and "a". The liberal cohort probably would. Pedophilia is a sexual orientation licit under Democratic law. #DEI #NoJudgment #NoLabels #LoveWins
Don't "set it back a generation." Throw it on the ash heap of history.
I love the conceit of the article that there was an option about taking the case to SCOTUS.
There wasn't.
The Alabama case was coming, with all teh "discovery" showing that the WPATH "deliberations" were pure politics, that there was NO science behind their claims.
The Trump Admin was coming along, which would mean they'd lose the backing of the Justice Department
Whoever was "fighting this all the way to SCOTUS" would get the donor $$$, so someone was going to take a case they'd lost to SCOTUS.
And if they managed to avoid the Prisoners' Delimma and not appeal any case where they lost at teh Appeals Court level to SCOTUS, eventually there'd be a case where the State lost, and it most certainly WOUDL appeal to SCOTUS.
As it was, the case was argued barely a month before Trump was inaugurated as President. If it had ben argued later, then the Solicitor General wouldn't have been a Democrat, and would have gone in there to say "this is inane, you should vote to uphold the law".
The mistake was deciding to addict kids to drugs, chemically castrate them, and surgically mutilate them. Everything else flowed from that mistake
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