"Can you play the meme thing where he goes, 'I've become meme' and it just doesn't land... I don't think this is good. This is not good.... I know that he's having fun with it, but there's gotta be a way to present this that where... he seems less high.... I'm just saying walking out on stage with sunglasses and a chainsaw is a little bit of a tell.... Whether they're high on ideas or actual drugs, I don't know. But we need sobriety in this country.... We need a dad... to just go, Hey man, here's the reality. You are outta control right now. You are absolutely out of control.... But this, this is a dad who himself is a little out of control, I think. I think you come home and you see dad with sunglasses and a chainsaw, and you go, my dad's going through something...."
February 23, 2025
Tim Dillon — the comedian who says Trump is a great comedian — does not appreciate Elon Musk as a prop comic in sunglasses.
From the new episode of his podcast (transcript): "So we have Elon Musk, who is up at CPAC, bombing with a chainsaw and doing weird bits.... Americans, by and large do not love Elon Musk.... He is not Donald Trump. Donald Trump kills. Elon Musk does not. Donald Trump's jabs land. Hard. He's a political genius.... You might think he's an idiot. You might hate him.... He's great at what he does. Elon — it doesn't land all the time. It looks like you have sort of... like a weird billionaire talent show.... Where is Trump? Where is the one who got elected, who communicates effectively?...So here is Elon Musk with a prop. He's so high. I do respect how high he is. I do miss and love drugs. I really do miss and love drugs. Oh man, he's high.... 'Chainsaw for bureaucracy.'... "
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Jerry Clower knows chainsaws:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbqMZoihlQ
Donald Trump's uncle, John Trump, was such a respected scientist that he was who the government called to look at Nikola Tesla's stuff when he died, to make sure that, you know, in case anything was there that the government should know about. So I think that there is IQ in the Trump family, and John Trump spent a lot of time talking with his nephew Donald, which is sort of a tip off that Trump is also smart, smart people like hanging around with people with whom they can be themselves. I really think that Trump not only has a very high IQ, but that he is very disciplined about how he uses his insights. I doubt that people like Musk and Orbán would hang with Trump if he wasn't very smart.
"...you see dad with sunglasses and a chainsaw, and you go, my dad's going through something...."
Trees, logs, bar oil, fuel mixes, chains. No idle chatter.
I'm still trying to figure out why Trump or Musk would bother with CPAC. Maybe to turn the screw a bit. Trump was widely scorned once CPAC went all David French and started banning people.
I guess they had to read the giant writing on the wall. But I would certainly treat their forum with the contempt it has earned.
One of the main reasons I wanted Trump back in office was that I believed, with him, we stood a chance of governance happening in the open. After the invisible and unnamed presidency of the Biden administration, transparency seemed like a pretty dang good plan. I have no idea about how Musk would do things at his own companies, but now he's drawing fire for Trump all the time, frequently on camera. I'll go by the results.
The "dad going through something" bit made me laugh. But this argument seems to be largely about decorum. After all, did we know who, say, JFK was when he wasn't on camera?
I think that Musk’s punches frequently land…hard. Particularly, on X. His short, pithy comments are often killer. His best was the “mind virus”. And he’s quick about it.
- Krumhorn
Musk: “I’d like to die on Mars, but not on impact.” Pretty funny.
His boy-turned-tranny was “killed by the woke mind virus”. That was a good’un.
- Krumhorn
Musk has always been one to create a memory. Wherever he goes, some sort of newsy story (or child) is left in his contrail. Why expect anything else?
He's not your Dad, and neither is Trump. This is your country, Tim. They aren't telling us what they are going to do for us or give to us. They are exposing the rottenness of the people who claim to be our "Dads" and "Moms".
It’s 5am here on the left coast. When I get to my computer, I’ll see if Grok can come up with a list of Musk’s best shots.
- Krumhorn
A friend of ours was one of the original SpaceX employees - worked a few doors down from Musk for his whole career there, child carpooled with Musk's kids to school. Presumably I could ask that guy what Musk was like as a boss (beyond the "He's... something" that we've already heard from him), but our friend is a pretty committed lefty and has probably already reinterpreted his twenty years of working directly with Musk, making awesome things and great money, in that light.
“The optics are the story.”
1. For someone who thinks the optics are the story, his optics suck.
2. Exactly encapsulates DEI and every other Democrat proposal. Try thinking about substance.
He is high AF and awkward AF. I hope he doesn't burn himself out.
I'm just saying walking out on stage with sunglasses and a chainsaw is a little bit of a tell.
Actually, the chainsaw was handed to him on stage as a gift from the head of state of Argentina, who was Trump 2.0 before Trump was Trump 2.0.
I don’t know much about this Tim Dillion, but from that cut he seems to be everything that Tim Dillon is criticizing Musk for being.
It's some body-language asperger thing, inability to read physical comedy. Musk's good in text.
Ketamine is a hell of a drug.
Starting from the premise that Musk is purposely playing the role of lightning rod as Trump continues to make progress in personnel changes and executive orders (voter ID yesterday for example), then it all makes sense.
Once again, I just do not grok this Tim Dillon guy. I've listened to him a several times, on different shows, and I don't see the attraction. Oh well, different strokes, as they say.
Ethical envy? Comedy is a joke by its nature.
Musk is a strange and incredible person. He is not a politician, and his personality is not to everyone's tastes. I would be happy to see less of him on stage before adoring crowds. It doesn't always come off well. That said, he's the man of the hour, and he's making many changes possible.
I like Elon Musk a lot. But I don't need to see him on TV every day or critique his peformances. I notice that the same critics who always criticize Trump for being "vulgar" or "Tweeting" or doing this or that and "Giving the left ammunition", are now doing the same to Musk. The MSM-DNC puts these two under a microscope and every misstep is magnified x10.
I assume Peggy Noonan will do a column it.
Obama liked drugs. Clinton didn't inhale. A chainsaw or a scalpel? It's because he's African-American, a person of color, right?
Slightly O.T., but germane...
https://www.westernjournal.com/bombshell-kathie-lee-gifford-recalls-time-donald-trump-saved-baby-murderer-rapist/
I appreciate the focus on eliminating waste, corruption, theft, sedition and extremely short-sighted asshattery. And the focus on improving efficiency.
The bureaucracy and our political class have shown no interest in any of this and THAT MUST STOP.
Yeah, Musk is running on ketamine-fuelled terror, trying to craft the next narrative. He's accomplishing his own destruction, and no one can apparently stop it.
The dutiful narrative regurgitation collective left hive mind virus:
“Musk is a drugged up chainsaw wielding nazi saluting loser!”
Wince to be fully accurate, Milei handed Musk the chainsaw backstage, and then they kind of recreated the offer with a bit too much fanfare. The thing is, this particular year, CPAC is more of a celebration of retaking the White House and both houses of Congress. Celebrations always look bad if you aren't one celebrating and don't feel like celebrating.
The optics will look bad to those freaking out about having to do something like write a weekly activity report. I had direct comments about ISS this week, because I used to work on it as a contractor. I have "friends" on Facebook that still work at NASA. The last 48 hours has been nothing but a meltdown for them as they freakout about the ISS mission coming to an end and now having to explain what they do each week. The are angry at Musk for daring to ask them to show their worth. Put Musk on stage with a chainsaw, and it is just a horror show for them.
Chainsaws are a bit graphic. I never have a problem with taking the piss out of politicians. And weekly activity reports are always annoying to write, because after the first two, even management hates reading the same thing over and over. Some jobs and activities are simply routine. But everyone learns to do the tedious parts of their job or they quit. Your friends and family will listen to you complain and try to cheer you up, but if you really want to know; they don't care.
The above wasn't meant to be fully directed at Wince... sorry mate.
Trump is staying largely quiet and sitting comfortably in his corner. Think of this phase as a tag-team cage match. Musk and the official Trump nominees are busy disrupting the status quo and setting a new standard for discourse in American political society. They are drawing all the enemy fire, and the enemy is firing and mostly missing, because they are the heel in this cage match. I think Musk's ever-presence is to serve notice to the Democrats and Republican Party (RINO), mostly in the Senate, that he stands ready to finance their opponent in the primaries over the next 4 years. The RINOs have not yet been brought to heel - at least, not in the Senate, where some are less vulnerable thanks to their 6 year terms.
Others have mentioned that Trump is using Musk to divert some of the hate that would otherwise be directed at the President. Don't know if that is true, but if so it's genius on Trump's part.
Employees need to return to a clear way of thinking about the work they do. In the “olden days” (lol), the concept was “8 hours of work for 8 hours pay”. Whatever your time increment, the hours worked should be commensurate with your compensation. You are there to work, not shoot the shit around the water cooler or play video games.
For crikey’s sake, if you can’t easily summarize your weekly accomplishments in 5 bullet points, perhaps you should find employment in something that interests and engages you.
Did they ever start the saw? I didn't see that part if they did.
I played a role as a chainsaw massacre guy at a local haunted house at Halloween time for several years in row back in the 90's. The haunted house was built inside the community theater. It was incredibly elaborate and very scary. At one point on the tour there was a lengthy maze the patrons had to crawl through on their hands and knees. It was super-creepy and claustrophobic. There were emergency escape hatches we could use because some people freaked out and had to be rescued. We put a lot of work into that haunted house and raised a lot of money.
For my part, I wore oversize, white coveralls with football shoulder pads underneath and a white goalie mask like Friday the 13th.
A group of mostly teenage/young adult patrons would enter a long hallway illuminated with black lights and strewn with bloody manikin limbs and heads. I would be out of sight behind the door at the head of the hall. They'd usually bunch up and tentatively start down the hall knowing something was going to happen, but not what or when. As they reached the halfway point, I'd step out from behind the door, pull the starter cord, rev up the saw, raise it over my head and come at them.
They often panicked and fell all over each other, screaming and running for the door at the far end. The door at the far end had to be pulled open and they'd all hit it at once trying to push it open. Now they were all in their own way and were trapped and at the mercy of the psychopath. The saw was screaming, they were screaming. I'd press the bar against their arms or legs. Some were in genuine terror.
It was a real chainsaw, but there was no chain on it, so it was harmless.
At last they'd manage to get the door open to get out of the hall. But on the other side was nothing but a mute spectre and black hole about 3 or 4 feet in diameter leading down. There was nowhere else to go but down the hole. The hole was actually a black PVC culvert on a staircase, but you couldn't tell that because everything was draped off and there was only the black light coming from the hallway. The mute specter would urge them into the black hole. The culvert was smooth inside and they'd slide fast to the bottom and find themselves in the lobby and at the end of the adventure.
I usually got a whanging headache from the 2-stroke exhaust.
But of course there was no chain of blades on the chain saw. Great story, Bob. 🤣
Chainsaws can be super dangerous in the wrong hands but also super effective and efficient. D. O. G. E. !!!!
Trump needs everyone's admiration and attention. His humor is universally targeted. Musk entertains himself wonderfully. If you get it, fine, but unnecessary to his sense of self. Just MHO. I think Musk is hilarious.
Was it an electric or gas model?
Trump had a long apprenticeship in showbiz and showbiz-adjacent activities. Musk is stepping out of his role as CEO into the spotlight and it's not quite working for him. He hasn't had the practice. Also, being "on the spectrum" may not help. One could say that all comics are a bit "neurodivergent," but it might be hard for someone with Asperger's to know if a joke landed properly or not.
Wince said:
"I don’t know much about this Tim Dillion, but from that cut he seems to be everything that Tim Dillon is criticizing Musk for being."
Good point.
One thing about druggies and former druggies like Tim Dillon is that they try to convince you that they're not alone in their habits, everybody uses drugs, everybody is high.
Musk and his people are the commandos. Blow some shit up, throw the enemy into disarray, and the infantry will be along presently.
So he doesn’t have to be enduringly popular. And the more disruptive he is the more he normalizes what follows.
Trump has already dynamited the mechanism that brought us endless war. The Democrats are not going to cozy up to the neocons again, and the Republicans have taken note of the complete betrayal of the patriotic young men who signed up to "fight for America" and instead ended up fighting for the designs of globalist oligarchs like Soros.
Elon is great. But he is not a normal person. He interacts with people in an abnormal way. And...as you may have noticed, so does our President. That is not to say they are evil or bad, or shouldn't be doing what they're doing. They should. And I truly believe they are actually good people. I know this by what I've read for years about Trump and his dealings with average Americans. The little people. When the cameras are off. He treats them with dignity and care. Care being the key word. He likes people, generally speaking. He hates bullshitters.
And Elon is like most geniuses. And certainly most tech geniuses. He is brilliant, and quirky funny. But his ability to speak with a normal person in a normal banter is just not there. It doesn't look easy for him. And so...the sunglasses and t-shirts. The hyper-activity. The chainsaw. His weakness is looking and sounding normal. He should not be the salesperson for his actions. Someone else should be handling the marketing of what's taking place.
Yeah, he's going through something: The Federal bureaucracy, with a chainsaw!
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