From "Trump could hobble renewed fight against domestic terrorism, analysts warn/Based on his first-term record, researchers expect the next Trump administration to shift the government’s focus from white supremacists and other far-right militants" (WaPo).
Yes, some Democrats and civil liberties groups are wary that it is a thought-police exercise that could infringe on First Amendment rights because it is a thought-police exercise that could infringe on First Amendment rights. Thanks to the Democrats and civil liberties groups that haven't lost their way.
Alex DiBranco, executive director of the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism, said some anti-fascist and gender-focused nonprofits are concerned again about the Trump administration seeking to discredit or even prosecute them by classifying them as far-left domestic terrorist groups....
So join the Trump-aligned Republicans and the Democrats and civil liberties groups who are wary of thought-police exercises that could infringe on First Amendment rights. The great thing about dedication to First Amendment rights is that they are there to protect your side when your side loses its grip on majoritarian power.
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Nobody believes there is a terrorism threat from right-wing extremist groups. Political violence in the US is a nearly 100% left-wing affair. So of course these groups should be defunded. That they were funded in the first place is pure corruption. Some should be investigated
Since, unlike on the right, there actually is domestic terrorism on the left, it is at least possible that Trump's efforts will be legitimate. We shall see...
The only organized violence I see is the hatred by lefties toward Jews.
This national political shift is amazing. Last night, O'Reilly predicted that MSNBC, WaPo and LA Times are DOA and The View is going to be purged of the crazies.
Trad Catholics may breathe a sigh of relief.
"Institute for Research on Male Supremacism" -- #notthebabylonbee
When I grow up I want to be an Extremism Researcher.
Government-funded, of course.
"Monitoring far-right networks," like parents at school board meetings.
Parents at school board meetings too.
The executive director of the Institute for Research on Monsters-under-the-bed is concerned again about the Trump Administration seeking to discredit or even prosecute the hunting of Monsters-under-the-bed.
Why didn’t Biden do anything about antifa?
That's an occupation - "extremism expert"? Sounds like another late-20s graduate employed in policy-propaganda think-tank position, "expert" trained via 1-year master degree in progressive-liberal subjective opinion.
Dept of Defense conducted a prolonged investigation, determined to find "white supremacism" in military, but failing to find it. Bet these "extremism experts" find extremism in every corner of every facet of American society, wherever there is disbelief that pervasive white supremacism is everywhere.
more training and personnel to monitor violent far-right networks
I don't think the various assassins that seem to be wandering our country killing people are far right.
Uhhh...they were his "Don't even think about defecting from the Party" enforcers in blue cities? Or his "Keep 'em agitated so they won't stop long enough to realize they are suffering from TDS" team? This was in partnership with the Pussy Hats (such as wannabe k*iller Kathy Griffin and wannabe ars*nist Madonna), Defund the Police, BLM, and the 'equity' shoplifting gangs.
Color supremacist ideologues are far-left authoritarian under the Diversity (i.e. color judgment, class bigotry) umbrella including political congruence ("=") and other models of selective judgment, labels, and exclusion practiced with the Pro-Choice religion in progressive sects in liberal democracies.
Extremist researcher who seem to ignore so called antifa blm al queda
Supposedly it doesn't exist. Ask Chris Wray.
Alex DiBranco is female. Interstingly, her Institute for Research on Male Supremacism has openings for research fellows.
"Male Supremacism"
At this point, I wish brothas would...since the gynocracy appears ready to lay blame squarely at men's feet no matter what.
She used the word "fellows"!?! Someone call the ACLU!
At this point its like the human fund
There's actually an Institute for Research on Male Supremacism? If there's even a nickel's worth of taxpayer funding going to that scam then everybody involved should be in handcuffs.
That title sentence is a gem of bad writing. "...a repeal of the culture shift Biden tried to bring about..." - so which is it - did the culture shift come about and now potentially will be repealed, or did Biden merely "try" but not succeed, in which case Trump's return to power will leave this area unchanged?
The right wing is set in tradition by the very definition of conservative. Once settled, they tend to leave others alone if they do not feel threatened or are not threatened. Indeed, they often run away from politics at the first opportunity -- to their great disadvantage. In the 1990s they went off to rural Idaho and built compounds in rural Texas, but the central controllers (GHW Bush and Clinton) would not let them lie.
The left is comprised half of optimistic progressives and half of closet revolutionaries who instantly become defensive right wingers once they have power. The central controllers routinely treat left wing activists as useful idiots.
When you hear "domestic terrorism" from DC, translate it to "groups that threaten the current agenda of central controllers."
“When I grow up I want to be an Extremism Researcher”
I understand this curriculum is taught in the Drama department.
Agreed. Anyone who reads this comment section and all of the Trump supporters who self-identify as male gendered he him will easily conclude that the concept of male supremacy is a joke.
Unfortunately, today “domestic terrorism” needs to take into account all the ISIS, Chinese spy, Venezuelan gangs etc. that Biden deliberately allowed to walk into the US over the past 4 years.
Like tren de aragua that may be venezuelan intelligence
Don't follow leaders watch the parking meters.
I am almost impressed that leftists can at the same time fear that under Trump the government will devote fewer resources to domestic disidents ( like angry parents at school board meetings) and that the Trump administration will be the dawn of a fascist era where government resources will be devoted to rooting out dissidents.
https://x.com/ShidelerK/status/1864785225521205486
I looked around the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism's website. Under "resources" I found asome books for sale, that is seven books for sale and one that you could read on the web for free. All save one by the executive director. Publication dates show that a book may be produced every year or two on average. They also conduct webinars, well three are listed one conducted in 2020 and two in 2023. There also planning on holding a zoom conference next year for which they are looking for people or orgs to co-sponsor at a hefty fee. Nice grift if you can manage it.
Alex DiBranco appears to be a biological female, but I have no direct knowledge of that.
Here is how she describes herself.
“Alex DiBranco is the cofounder and executive director of the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism. A sociology PhD candidate at Yale University, writing her dissertation on the US New Right movement infrastructure from 1971 to 1997, she is currently is affiliated with the Berkeley Center for Right-Wing Studies. She was formerly Political Research Associates’ communications director and a member of the Public Eye editorial board.”
She/He/They will undoubtedly do great things in Her/His/Their life/lives.
[golf clap] Well played!
She/He/They will undoubtedly do great things in Her/His/Their life/lives..
Yes, I'm sure She/He/They will do well running the fries station at a Wendy's one day.
Begley, Biden (or his handlers anyway) did something about Antifa. He told them to stand back and stand by. They still may show up.
JSM
Nobody is there to protect your freedom of speech.
It's always which dissidents are being targeted.
Dissent will again be the highest form of patriotism, per Democrats.
Trump-aligned Republicans have portrayed the stepped-up fight against domestic terrorism as a thought-police exercise
When the "stepped-up fight against domestic terrorism" takes the form of arresting parents at school board meetings who are angry about their young children's exposure to a "sex ed" curriculum that goes beyond "mommies and daddies lovingly make babies and isn't that great for all of you who are less than a decade from being the said babies," and grandmothers praying outside abortion clinics, and people walking cheerfully between the velvet ropes ooohing and aaahing at the sights of the Capitol... then yes, I do think it's a thought-police exercise.
Stop a bomber - I'm totally cool with that.
The feds have been keeping track of extremist groups, including right-wing extremists, for decades. This has been stepped up in recent years with Obama and Biden. As important, though, may be the creation of the Homeland Security Department and the rise of NGOs that seek to translate fashionable ideas from the universities into policy. Trump may cut all that out, but the FBI is probably still going to be infiltrating the Klan, the American Nazi Party and similar groups.
DHS officials supporting more aggressive action against right-wing extremists became a center of opposition to Trump during his first administration, with Miles "Anonymous" Taylor as a prime example. It's likely that under Mayorkas the same tendencies are even deeper and more widespread in the department. Looking up DHS now, I get a Nazi vibe from their iconography, their building and their seal (and as some noticed when it was created, their very name). That may not be a bad thing, as it lets us know who to really be afraid of.
So there are no Nazis in the U.S. All those compounds in Idaho are just hunting clubs. There is no such thing as Christian Identity (if this is true, please inform my best friend's brother).
FBI was just taking the lead of Pope Francis in cracking down on those pesky Latin mass terrorists. According to a report in the French publication La Croix, the Vatican is moving against traditionalists in France who want to celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass during the annual pilgrimage to Chartre next year. According to the article "an unnamed official told la Croix that the closing Mass of this year's pilgrimage, celebrated at the cathedral in Charles, was 'a lawless zone.'" Just like January 6!
And how could I forget the Ku Klux Klan. And don't flog the tired old cliche that the Klan is a Democratic organization
Their position paper on manspreading sets the bar for male supremacism research.
Alex DiBranco, good move ditching the glasses, but you are not a serious person. Is this you?
Memories of Another World
Alex DiBranco
Waking up in a strange room to talk of wizards, Rachel suspects the sanity of those around her--or her own. But without even realizing it, she begins to believe in the new, magical world. And that means believing the prophecy that only Rachel can save them all.
Or maybe she should be taken seriously. This desire to lump everything from fathers' rights to incel terrorism together as a threat is going shape the left's agenda when the Democrats take power again. As is so often the case with "extremism" and "disinformation" experts she doesn't realize that the same conspiracies she sees in others also apply to her own work and those on her own side. DiBranco's making everyone who objects to the feminist agenda a threat to be dealt with by the authorities makes the people like DiBranco a threat.
Yeah, how could Freder forget the KKK? One of the very first right-wing terror groups to be entirely funded by the FBI.
@Freder: What part of transformation by the context did you not understand? The right can and does act out with evil when its established evil ways are threatened (e.g., old-South slavery --> KKK), but a bunch of isolationistic neo-Nazis or Christians, or a random cult off in the woods, is more likely continue as isolationists than anything else. Over time they may end up resembling the Amish, the Mormons, or commit mass suicide. Without access to airplanes, tanks, and nukes the broader cultural impact will be limited.
Similarly, the many clusters of (highly traditionalistic) hippies on the west coast tend to keep to themselves unless they feel threatened, as with the rise of the lefty aggressive youngsters of ANTIFA. They'd all be neo-Nazis if raised in Idaho. They'd all belong to BLM if raised in an urban core. It's what angry, aggressive, and not-so-bright youth do.
It's never about the left or right label, and it's all about the context and specific conflicts. Tribes and tribal survival. It's about regression to the mean. Humans are social predators. Social. Predators.
Yeah, how could Freder forget the KKK? One of the very first right-wing terror groups to be entirely funded by the FBI.
Where the hell do you get these ridiculous assertions?
It could be the posters are females pretending to be males.
The same reason Hoover pretended the mafia was a myth
Obama and Biden focused on right-wing extremists not because such groups are extremists, but because they're right-wing. Obviously, the dems aren't opposed to political extremism that's left-wing, as evidenced by the George Floyd riots, Antifa, pro-Palestinian protests, and the recent assassination of the that health insurance guy in NY (which even some "mainstream" leftists voiced sympathy for).
The real purpose of supposedly targeting right-wing extremists is to enable the government to monitor and intimidate conservative groups generally, ostensibly to watch for signs that they're about to turn violent. Just another example of the weaponization of government.
"Berkeley Center for Right-Wing Studies" Ah, yes. A think-tank dedicated to studying those strange and dangerous creatures, conservative American citizens. The Americans in the mist.
Or to slow walk their applications for tax exempt status before an election.
“So there are no Nazis in the U.S. All those compounds in Idaho are just hunting clubs. There is no such thing as Christian Identity (if this is true, please inform my best friend's brother).”
The fact that you are talking about Nazis in ID essentially shows that you are clueless. The skinheads were pushed out, mostly, probably, East into MT, several decades ago. MT is a much bigger state. Easier to get lost in. Sure, ID is fairly conservative, love their guns, and Christianity is very strong. But LDS is growing in the SW (they always were dominant in the east and your skinheads pushed out of the NW by the influx of money over the last several decades. Guns anymore there aren’t skinheads training in their compounds, but successful doctors and lawyers taking their Barrett .50s out for distance shooting. Ok, everyone does have some AR-15s. New gun store opened up this summer in Athol (N of Hayden) with more of them than even Black Sheep (Hayden/CDA border).
The whole Christian Identity thing is idiotic. This is still a primarily Christian country. Has been for 400 years now. Geographically, the vast majority of the country is visibly Christian. You just don’t see it in the university towns and their faculty lounges. What has happened in recent years is a disappearance of many of the denominational walls, and in particular between Roman Catholic and Protestant - which is good, because, as my partner says of Hispanics - they are all good Catholics (she’s RC). But don’t leave out Blacks either. Whenever my wife encounters health issues here, several of the Black women here will remind me that they are praying for her. Two last week. These are all good people, which is why our Christian identity is a good thing. A really good thing.
I'm hopeful, but not optimistic, that a depopulated FBI, won't have the manpower to harass parents and church-goers.
I would probably prefer “fellowettes”. I get in a lot of trouble for that sort of thing esp with my daughter, who works now in Boulder (where she was indoctrinated and got her PhD). I have been routinely, and firmly, instructed to not refer to her and her buddettes as “Doctorettes”. She had a minor in Spanish in college, so we have compromised on “Doctora”. Except when I slip…
Yes, Freder. There are people you don't like on the right (though much of your list is not right), but your not liking them is not enough to make them terrorists.
“ It could be the posters are females pretending to be males.”
I think the proper term, instead of “pretending” is “identifying” as male. Or at least preferred by those pretending to be male.
I have been routinely, and firmly, instructed to not refer to her and her buddettes as “Doctorettes”.
I'm as sexist as any caveman, and even I can see her point.
It’s going to be interesting. If Trump and his people can get control over the FBI, AntiFA will be at the top of their target list. They knew exactly who they were in 2020, who was funding them, etc, and worked with them to pull off 1/6. They travel around in busses, crossing state lines, which makes their crimes federal. And someone was paying for the busses, paying them wages, or least giving them spending money. More federal crimes. It’s when the Deputy Director starts asking for those answers, and letting heads roll, when he doesn’t get them, that AntiFA will be done.
I am surprised that AntiFA hasn’t been green lighted yet. Maybe they have to bail their front line troops out of mental institutions first, and get some training with their new (matching) gear. But the longer they wait, the more orchestrated their feigned anger will look.
Unless, the thinking is that firing up AntiFA right now will just make the confirmation of Patel as FBI Director that much easier. Right now, some of the female GOP Senators can feign vapors with Trump’s nominations of hard men for these posts. But if AntiFA unleashed, justifying those hard men is easy.
You have to admit that the FBI's strategy is working.
Also:
Why are you waving that chicken around over your head?
To keep the elephants away.
Does it work?
You don’t see any elephants around here, do you?
Well, back in the day, when I was in college (68-72), the proto-feminist co-eds had a term for many of us: Male Bastard Pig (MBP). Except when we really transgressed badly, then it was: Male Damn Bastard Pig (MDBP). Except that any group of women could only have one MDBP at a time. So, it was somewhat of an honor.
My sainted daughter had a late Boomer mother, who missed much of this. She was enough of a feminist that she never let her gender get in her way. If confronted by overt sexism, she would just shame him, and go on. It never happened a second time. And that is how my daughter was raised. She thrives in a male dominated field (she’s a Sr Test Engineer for a DOD early warning space sensor program). And her besties are very similar - her entire bridal party were Doctorettes (DDS, PharmD, JD, and several STEM PhDs).
So, I punch her buttons. If she catches it before she reacts, she wins. If she reacts first, I do. This week I did. I have to hide it pretty well these days, but did succeed. The trick is to hide it in talking about something else.
"... which pledged more training and personnel to monitor violent far-right networks.... Academic researchers and community groups were awarded federal grants to study and prevent radicalization. That work, however,
Is complete and total crap, and every single grant should be terminated as soon as the Trump Admin II starts.
Trump-aligned Republicans have pointed out, correctly, that ANY stepped-up fight against domestic terrorism would be aimed at the Left, at Antifa and BLM, and at Muslims, not the Right and Christians.
#FIFY
"Some Democrats and civil liberties groups also have expressed wariness of federal overreach...."
Now that it's about to hit them? They can go fuck themselves. Too late.
From "Trump could hobble renewed fight against domestic terrorism, analysts warn/Based on his first-term record, researchers expect the next Trump administration to shift the government’s focus from white supremacists and other far-right militants" (WaPo). to the actual terrorists.
"... the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism?" Seriously? How much government funding for this boondoggle?
"Alex DiBranco, executive director of the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism, said some anti-fascist and gender-focused nonprofits are concerned again about the Trump administration seeking to discredit or even prosecute them by classifying them as far-left domestic terrorist groups...."
Did anyone notice that Alex forgot to check the "anti-racist" box?
I also suspect that being an "extremism researcher" makes you more likely to see extremism in places that it doesn't actually exist. (You know, like being a UFO or ghost researcher.)
Ironically, they're going to spend the next four years mostly researching Trump.
"And don't flog the tired old cliche that the Klan is a Democratic organization"
It's a cliche because it's true. They didn't call southern Democrats "Dixiecrats" for nothing.
"Woman, you're a mystery to me.
I'm too obsessed with my masculinity.
How I wish that I was in your league.
But instead, I'm just a filthy, sexist pig."
- From the SCTV musical, I'm Taking My Own Head, Screwing it On Right and No Guy's Gonna Tell Me That it Ain't.
If "Institute for Research on Male Supremacism" wasn't a real organization, AI would hallucinate it into being.
It's a cliche because it's true.
It was true in 1965, it is no longer true.
The whole Christian Identity thing is idiotic.
Agree 100%. But apparently you are confusing Christian Identity with Christian Nationalism. Christian Identity is a racist and antisemitic Christian sect which preaches that Europeans are God's chosen people and descended from the 10 tribes of Israel.
Ah, but what these researchers fear is that their generous grants from Democrat party allies in government agencies will be stopped. They are academics? of a sort, it is all about the money with academia.
From the 1985 movie, Creator,
Professor Brauer : I hope you'll accept this advice, as the word of a scholar and a lover of truth.
Dr Harry Wolper [Peter O'Toole]: Absolutely.
Professor Brauer : Whatever you do Harry, don't use your own money.
It's a small time operation. Basically 4 unpaid grad students. No government grants that I see.
You could look it up.
"Bet these "extremism experts" find extremism in every corner of every facet of American society..."
Well, if they don't, there won't be much demand for "extremism experts" going forward, so...
There's always Ghostbusters:
Dr Ray Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything!
Notice how Freder compares a few, isolated 'far right' groups (that most people have never heard of) with the tens of thousands of leftwing thugs who burned down major US cities. And are planning to do so again.
The violence is on the left, boy. Own it.
If 'we' on the right were half as violent as your side, you would cease to exist.
@Freder, we are still laughing at you.
“It was true in 1965, it is no longer true”
And it was true in 2010 too, when the Clintons, Obama, Biden, etc showed up for the funeral of Sen Robert “Sheets” Byrd (D-KKK), former WV KKK Grand Cleagle and Dem Sen President Pro Tem. Contrast that with Republicans who rejected Dem politicians trying to switch parties if they had a racist or Klan past. Yes, a handful of Klan may have voted for Trump. But so did over 70 million non-Klan members. So quit lying about this - the Klan has always been a Dem organization, since its founding.
“But apparently you are confusing Christian Identity with Christian Nationalism. Christian Identity is a racist and antisemitic Christian sect which preaches that Europeans are God's chosen people and descended from the 10 tribes of Israel.”
Again, you are finding a handful of nut cases out of over 70 million Trump voters. The reality is that 99% of the antisemitism these days comes from the left. Antisemitism has always been under the surface on the left, but over the last 13-14 months, it went mainstream, with support for the Palestinians who kidnapped and butchered so many innocent Israeli men, women, and children. They raped and murdered Israeli women and girls, in no particular order (actually, in all its permutations). No one should be surprised that Trump picked a Christian minister as his ambassador to Israel.
Which gets us to your “Christian Nationalists”. Most of us are both. MAGA is intensely nationalistic. So, we are both patriots and Christians. BFD. So are well over half the country.
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