[M]any senior Biden aides remain wounded by the president being pushed out of his re-election bid and are still adjusting to being in a supporting role on the campaign trail.Go to the link for a list a specific clashes.
"They're too much in their feelings," one close Harris ally said of the president's team — a sentiment shared even by some White House aides....
Do you think the Democrats would have been better off sticking with Biden? They knew Harris's weaknesses, and they knew the switcheroo would be difficult to pull off and to sell to the people, and they knew Biden was still alive, still in power, and would be powerfully emotional. When I see Biden on camera, speaking, these days, I think he comes across better than Harris... and I feel his pain:
"She's my boss here," he says, gripping Jennifer Granholm's arm. How tightly?
ADDED: Think they could pull off a reverse switcheroo in the last 3 weeks?
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"pushed out of his re-election bid "
He wasn't PUSHED. He was THREATENED.
The coup plotters threatened to remove Joe Biden using the 25th Amendment if he did not give up the nomination of the party that he had won by winning elections that the people of the various states PAID tax dollars to conduct.
The people chose Joe Biden to represent the Democrat Party.
Joe Biden wasn't "pushed" anywhere. It's an OUT-AND-OUT COUP. An illegal coup against the sitting President of the United States who was elected by the people and by his political party in favor of a woman who hasn't ever won an election in her lifetime.
It is a CRIME. And Joe Biden is correct to undermine this usurping bitch.
Of course Biden comes off better than Kamala. I have a stale box of cereal in my pantry that comes off better than Kamala. And everyone knew it going into this thing. They spent the last 3.5 years whispering, then begging Joe Biden to cut her loose and find someone competent. Prior to her appointment as VP based on her vagina of color, no Democratic voters wanted anything to do with her. She couldn't even make it to the Iowa caucus in 2020, drawing an almost invisible amount of Democratic voters before pulling out.
And so now, after a showtime convention in which everybody played like they were 'joyous', the ether has worn off, Kamala is still Kamala, and by any reasonable standards, even the catatonic Joe Biden presents better in public than the wannabe President, Kamala.
The entire thing perpetrated on the American people- by our media, our entertainers, our academic class, and the Democratic politicians- first with Joe Biden, then with Kamala Harris stinks to high heaven. They placed Party over Country.
They should not be rewarded for this. They should, in fact, be punished. Long and hard, for years to come.
Demos-cracy... Democracy dies with Democratics. That said, all's fair in lust and abortion.
As Trump said at the debate “Biden hates her.” And now Joe and Jill are tearing Kamala down with machinations subtle enough that they can’t be called out. I love it.
He's only working part time now, and has had several weeks of vacation. If a part-time POTUS was all we needed, and if you want a guy who thinks that the United States manifest destiny is world conquest, then he would be your guy. He is too good at sparking up conflicts around the world, though, to work part time.
The Democrats are better off with Harris, however, they would be in a better position if they could have gotten somebody other than Harris.
The reason that. Biden removed is that it was clearly evident that he was not going to win. As bad as she is, the race is now a 50-50 proposition.
What I find amusing is that Biden (and/or whoever is acting in his place) has worked hard at sabotaging Democrat prospects. First, by endorsing Harris making it difficult to put in place the selection methodology that Obama and Pelosi had envisioned. Second, by stepping on Harris’s toes when she awkwardly tried to insert herself in Hurricane relief efforts.
What was the crime?
Only in the dr evil sense of outsized ambitions
Diversity [dogma] (i.e. color judgment, class bigotry) breeds dysfunction. Not viable. Abort.
To answer your question directly, no, I don't think Joe would be doing better than Kamala, even though he is much more likeable. The debate confirmed to everyone that Joe had to go. As bad as she is, Kamala's their best shot and at least has the AWFL demographic singing joyfully and fervently. There just won't be enough of them to make up for all the other groups they're losing.
The whole Democratic primary was in a coup loop. No opponents to Biden were allowed, so of course he won the primary. Lawfare, Colorado and Maine were tasked to remove Trump as an opponent. Those trials all failed. Sure, feel bad for Biden, but he’s as sinister, cold-blooded, and reptilian as the rest of them. It’s just just that we get to witness the implosion because their actions have come back to bite them so deliciously.
Do you think the Democrats would have been better off sticking with Biden?
No. There was no way to recover from his debate with Trump
They knew Harris's weaknesses, and they knew the switcheroo would be difficult to pull of and to sell to the people?/i> …
IMHO “they” gambled that Harris would be a better candidate than she has been., that with top of the line staff she’d be able to rise to the occasion. They lost.
When I see Biden on camera, speaking, these days, I think he comes across better than Harris...
I think partly it’s because Harris is so bad, and — my opinion — it’s much less stress on an octogenarian to be President than to be President and candidate simultaneously
Like 2016, the Democrats thought they were sure to win by maneuvering the Republicans into nominating Trump.
She was a turrble candidate this was known in 2019 when gabbard disenboweled her
Biden looks awful, of course. He's still one of the most despicable, corrupt and criminal politicians in American history, an absolute traitor. But Althouse still likes the piece-of-shit in comparison to Harris. so there's that.
They should be punished by the electorate, but won't. The intra-party finger pointing has already begun as Ann noted in her first post of the day. Expect Josh Shapiro to be the most effective one at calling out those responsible. But he'll do that secretly; the old anonymous sources trick.
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Temujin said...
“Of course Biden comes off better than Kamala. I have a stale box of cereal in my pantry that comes off better than Kamala.”
Joe Biden has stale Corn Pops better than Kamala.
Are we to believe that Biden can be this coherent now, and yet look so infirm and frail on the night of the debate? I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe, the drug cocktail administered on the night of the debate was somewhat different than he's getting now, and maybe what be had been getting in the run-up to that night.
Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Biden had the remaining mental capacity to be president when he was running in 2020, assuming he ever had the capability. Certainly, could have and should have been removed months and months ago.
If you want any of these people running things, then you need your head examined.
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"Think they could pull off a reverse switcheroo in the last 3 weeks?..."
Three weeks is just enough time for a voter to decide they don't like either one of them. I hope Joe and Jill keep it up, and I don't blame Joe for being sore. And look at Jennifer Granholm trying to shut Joe up. What a 'find' she turned out to be, Miss 'Keep It In The Ground' and 'Anything But Oil, except Nukes'.
From the list at Axios it seems Kamala expects Biden to run her campaign.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/obamas-communist-nepo-baby-judge-who-loves-evil/
Are you telling me that brat girl summer is over?
I think Harris is a bad candidate, running a bad campaign.
But Biden's candidacy was absurd. He shouldn't be president now, let alone four years from now.
The presidency has to be one of the most stressful jobs on the world. Unless you just don't give a shit. In which case, you can apparently float on auto-pilot for months and months.
Let's go to the beach again!
If Biden had stayed in, the usual suspects would still be whining, hair on fire, all hands on deck, and RFK would be even a bigger threat. Or some other third party.
Threatening a sitting President to coerce him into withdrawing. That's a FELONY. That was the crime.
I stick with my crazy conspiracy theory: Biden was never meant to win in 2020. He was a sacrificial candidate who wouldn't harm Dem candidates down-ballot. Losing wouldn't harm his political career, because it was over. Ditto Harris, who wasn't qualified for anything above CA senator. If she lost it would mean she simply went back to the Senate.
Trump was running with a booming economy, low unemployment, and foreign policy successes. Then COVID happened, and the left suddenly had a weapon to attack him and scare off normies. Ditto the George Floyd riots. This made the election close. The steal occurred because on election night it looked like the GOP might narrowly take the House, giving Trump a GOP Congress.
It's too late for the reverse-switcharoo: ballots have already been mailed out and early voting in ongoing. Any switch in candidates would create a legal shitstorm-dumpster-fire-clown-orgy (I believe that is the term of art, although it may be in lawyer latin) that would have SCOTUS reaching for the eyeball heroin.
The Democrats nominated Hillary Clinton. Let's just say they're not the best at picking winning candidates. And no, Joe Biden didn't win. Someone with 81 million voters behind him doesn't erect razor wire around Washington DC in order to be installed.
"How tightly?" Tightly enough to report to HR. Among normal people in normal workplaces. But then, it's regular MO for Joe (D). Will he be Cosbied/Weinsteined after leaving office?
All this "tension" between the two staffs sounds pretty trivial. Huge numbers of people are involved. Of course some of those people are going to have negative feelings. And the incidents cited are trivial.
I think they are just trying to generate some drama. In fact, the takeaway here is the opposite: why is there so little drama and energy this late in the campaign?
You're not supposed to stab the guy in the back who stabbed the country in the back.
Gingrich has a good point Biden and his crazy wife want to go down in history as the only one's who "beat" Trump, even if it was via voter fraud.
Who would have standing? I predict that nobody would be granted standing.
"Think they could pull off a reverse switcheroo in the last 3 weeks?"
Anyone who asks this question (and I mean the political types, not Althouse) doesn't give a damn about the country. Say he won. He is not fit.
As to the voters; no, I don't think they would tolerate it.
Kamala didn't have to exert herself to get the job. Nobody else wanted it, certainly not on such short notice.
Joe Scarborough is wrong. This is not the best Joe Biden there's ever been. Some earlier Biden might have been a better candidate than Harris. This one isn't.
Gushin’ Collusion.
In a telling development, Canadian realtors have staffed up bigly.
The "steal," to the extent that it happened, wouldn't have affected down-ballot House races in the places where it mattered. It was directed at the crucial swing states to give Biden a victory. It was also planned well in advance of election night.
I'd go with a bigger conspiracy theory that something like COVID was going to happen all along and was going to be used to get Trump out of the White House. Joe Biden wasn't a sacrificial candidate. The Democrats were fully convinced that they could win in 2020. It's different now. Harris may yet win, but this year Democrats are more concerned about the down-ballot races
@Mr Wibble. If true, the plan failed spectacularly since 2020 was only the fourth election where the party winning the White House actually lost seats in the House. The Democrats lost 13 House seats, second only to their loss of 22 House seats and two Senate seats in 1960 (interesting coincidence that). Everybody seems to overlook this because of the Georgia Senate drama in 2020 but even then the Republicans held the majority of their seats in a year where they had twice as many incumbents running as the Democrats did
... majority of their Senate seats, to be clear.
The voters stood there in silence watching Democrats board up the counting room windows so that the voters couldn't see how they were rigging the election.
The voters didn't shoot a single person doing that.
The voters are chickenshit people.
They removed him from RUNNING for president, but were fine with him remaining president. Weird.
You still haven't named or even described a criminal offense. Try again.
Yes, I think the dems would have been better off sticking with Biden. My reasons:
1. I think the switch to KH is going to cost them dearly with traditional middle-class and union households. She doesn't have the blue-collar vibe that Biden had (or could plausibly fake). And while Biden has "governed" as the most left-wing president we've ever had, Kamala's support for policies like giving prisoners free sex-change operations is off the charts for a lot of people.
2. Switching to KH both entailed and revealed a lot of fraudulent conduct that makes the dem party establishment look like the mafia. First, it showed that the party and media lied to the American people about Joe's mental state. Second, Pelosi et al reportedly threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment if Biden didn't drop out; that was either a false threat they had no intention of carrying out or, if they believed he was truly incapable of performing the responsibilities of being POTUS, it shows that they have abdicated their constitutional duty by permitting Biden to remain president despite his perceived incompetency. Third, they rallied support for the switch based on the idea there would be an open primary/convention to select a replacement candidate, then immediately reneged on those plans upon Biden's withdrawal announcement. Here's my point: Sure, Biden probably would have lost. But Kamala's probably also going to lose. The difference is that, with the switch, the dems have further eroded the trust they once enjoyed as an institution. There is no dem party now: There's just a junta (comprised of Pelosi, Obama, and perhaps a dozen other people) that calls itself the dem party but in fact decides everything behind the scenes. This will have long-term effects that a simple loss by Biden would have avoided.
The Dems know they have the better organized mail in vote harvesting operation, and therefore will win this election. Their dumping of Joe Biden was necessary only because having him, a clear dementia sufferer, on public display even rarely during a "campaign" would lead to real doubt and protests about the ballot harvesting when he squeaked out wins in PA, WI, GA, AZ, MI, etc. because nobody in their own right mind would vote for such a sorry dementia patient.
On the other hand, Kamala Harris' baggage can be ignored. She has the background, the certifications, the status to become the puppet president for the Dems, even though it is clear she is no leader and could not win on her own. So Harris it is. Thanks, Obama, I guess.
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Are we to believe that Biden can be this coherent now, and yet look so infirm and frail on the night of the debate? I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe, the drug cocktail administered on the night of the debate was somewhat different than he's getting now, and maybe what be had been getting in the run-up to that night.
Yep, he was stupefied during debate, simply stupid after. Sabotaged by his crew and didn't have the courage or toughness to fight back.
For all his lifetime of bad-ass bravado, he wimped out in the end. And, he knows it.
With the exception of a couple of dollar store autobiographies and and softball interviews, he will drop out of sight in a hurry. His "friends" are laughing at him and his family.
I think your question Althouse misses an aspect that I believe was a big deal at the time. Nancy Pelosi was worried about losing more seats in the House and Democrats still considered it in play to win. Biden dropping in the polls the way he was would have depressed turn out for down ballot runs. Whether Kamala will win is irrelevant to that she may have shored up interest enough to keep the House in play. For that reason, I don’t think the switch was a mistake for Democrats.
Whether Kamala was the right choice is another question. I think her selection and how it went down destroyed the Democrat narrative that Trump was the “threat to Democracy”. Add in the efforts to change ballots regarding RFK jr and the Green Party, and it is clear who is messing with Democracy. However, as Althouse noted at the time, previous donations were to Biden/Harris, and a different candidate might be prevented from using those funds. An alternative to Harris would have needed to be spectacular to make up the ground so fast. Governor Newsom would be a lead balloon outside deep blue states. Gov. Whitmer might have been interesting, but I doubt she’d be any better than Harris. Gov. Shapiro might have done well with the Rust Belt and keeping PA, but he had the same affect on the antisemitic wing of the Democrat voting block that made her a bad choice for VP. Sen. Mark Kelly?
Early voting prevents another switcheroo at this time. The ballots have to be printed to be mailed out. They are already being delivered.
From Nancy's perspective, Joe has proved that the Team can function 'just fine' without a real President.
"The "steal," to the extent that it happened, wouldn't have affected down-ballot House races in the places where it mattered."
That's the point: When they realized that they wouldn't take the Senate, and might lose the House, they panicked and pushed Biden through, rather than end up with a GOP-controlled Congress and WH.
Remember, the expectation going in was that the Dems would gain seats in the House. In that scenario, Trump in the WH is fine, because he's neutralized, while Dems can spend four years harassing him with investigations and fundraising off their efforts.
Trump would have standing. It would basically be Bush v Gore on steroids.
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