From "Analysts say Trump faces risks heightened by gender when he debates Harris/Political analysts say there are particular risks for Donald Trump — heightened by gender — in coming across as a bully when he debates Kamala Harris" (WaPo).
I blogged about Salvatore's project back in 2017 — with video of the gender-reversed debate. What a revelation! Watch:
I think it's great that the audience appreciated a woman talking like Trump and didn't like the Hillary mannerisms in a man. And Kamala Harris has a lot of feminine style that I'm afraid comes across as subordinate: the laughing, the smiling, the whole-body shaking, the nodding of the head as if desperate for approval, the ever-changing voice. It doesn't show leadership ability, and we can see why Trump is getting mileage out of saying that world leaders will "walk all over her" and "She'll be like a play toy."
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Psssh. Trump should just be himself. If he comes across as overbearing or aggressive, it will surprise exactly no one. Assuming he can refrain from enormities like calling her out as a whore for the time she spent as Willie Brown's semen receptacle, I suspect he'd gain more votes than he lost for an on-brand performance that kicks her ass rather than kisses it.
The man playing Clinton has a creepy look and is a little light in the loafers. Maybe that has something to do with the result.
"Kamala Harris has a lot of feminine style that I'm afraid comes across as subordinate: the laughing, the smiling, the whole-body shaking, the nodding of the head as if desperate for approval, the ever-changing voice. It doesn't show leadership ability"
Correct. Sorry about the long quote, but I think it's worth emphasizing the essential point. Not sure it will make any difference, but it seems rather important in picking a president.
Lilly, though, is the Hillary shtick what’s making him seem creepy and loafer-light? We dont see his everyday affect.
JSM
PS: “loafer-light” would be a great Homeric epithet. “Then came Lindsey, loafer-light defender of the palmettos….” - j
Loafer-light is the Shoebomber's gay porn name.
a lot of feminine style that I'm afraid comes across as subordinate
Giorgia Meloni is all feminine and she doesn't come across as subordinate.
If only she could run for president here.
"I 'ain't no whars tarred." - You mean changes like that? When Kamala Harris adopts her black Ebonics voice in front of "Detroit" audiences? Those "voice changes."
too much emotional BS and victim-clubbing in our culture.
Trump needs to keep his cool even if Kamala says "Don't knock on my window like that."
Wow that was great! That Brenda gal should to fit office! See this is what we need in a first woman president. Our Thatcher from Queens.
And I can't believe MSNBC aired it.
Gender reversal has no effect. It's still stupid.
Amazing. I am about as sexist as it is possible to be, or at least I thought so. But Brenda King has got my vote. I'll bet Johnathon Gordon would not object if she grabbed him by the nuts, or whatever he's got down there.
Goetz, ha! The shoebomber! That’s a blast from the past (so to speak)!
JSM
---I think it's great that the audience appreciated a woman talking like Trump and didn't like the Hillary mannerisms in a man. [AA]
Not sure I get the logic in your comment. Forcefulness and seriousness are favored in a Presidential nominee? Plus, the woman was arguing the Trump policies. At least as far as I went with the video. So what is the surprise?
“Kamala Harris has a lot of feminine style that I'm afraid comes across as subordinate: the laughing, the smiling, the whole-body shaking, the nodding of the head as if desperate for approval, the ever-changing voice. It doesn't show leadership ability"
Are you kidding? Nobody would follow her across the street for a free beer.
That’s not the point—all she needs to show is that she’s not orange.
The ones who will walk all over her are the unelected cabal running the country into the ground right now.
She sold out her voters the day after the election. Italy can have her.
"Followed by a host of gentlemen callers."
Thread winner. She's Chauncey Gardiner in a skirt, tight down to the idiot-savant aphorisms about the passage of time.
Thread winner. She's Chauncey Gardiner in a skirt, right down to the idiot-savant aphorisms about the passage of time.
You can see Hillary angling for war with Russia already. Things would have gone better for the neocons, I think, if they had managed to start the war earlier, denying Russia the extra time to recover from the previous sanctions, and before China got so strong. Trump's election really screwed up their plans.
Popular policies would cut through all the gender BS. Unfortunately she has to play any of the woke cards she's been dealt...
..every, card...
People respond to an authoritative, confident affect. For whatever evolutionary and cultural reasons, that comes easier to a man. There aren't many Margaret Thatchers. The woman playing Trump is being manly. Unfair, no doubt (though not to Harris, who is terribly light and not just in the loafers).
“Analysts say”…
Feminism has come a long way, baby. Here's Richard Nixon on the advantage to women of deference men naturally give to women in negotiations. Well, here we are 40+ years later and now the fear is women will be treated equally as a man but not be able to take is as a man could
https://youtu.be/MWZpAzz725U
In a better world Tulsi Gabbard would be leading the Democrats; instead she was driven out by whomever is profiting from current Democrat policies.
I note how their favored “experts” have mutated to “analysts”.
I'm digging Brenda King. She looks like she'd ride me all night and expect breakfast in the morning.
Key word in the study: viewers.
When social psychology experiments are not well controlled, the results are often just what the experimenter wanted. IOW, the experimenter wanted to make a point.
Strong skepticism is required, as with most social psychology experiments. A lot of the highly publicized (to the non-scientific world) experiments are never replicated.
Spoiler Alert: men and women are different.
Coherent speech, logic and intelligence and character all matter. In a debate between Maggie Thatcher and Joe Biden, she'd whip the living bejeebers out of him. And she could probably get a TKO in a matchup with Billl Clinton. As for Obama, shed handle him like the lightweight he is. The House of Cards series of books was written by one of Thatcher's senior aides. He'd watched Thatcher "handbagging" her opponents. (Also known as beating the shinola out of a guy with her purse.)
I don't think that much, if any, of Trump's winning margin over Hillary in 2016 had to do with mmale/female or other gender issues.
It doesn't show leadership ability, and we can see why Trump is getting mileage out of saying that world leaders will "walk all over her".
Yup.
Two key words in fact: scholars, viewers.
Agreed. Hikkary had no political skills. Lacked chatisma and was not quick with her remarks.
Hillary failed because she was play-acting against her essence. She couldn't shift from "I could have stayed home and baked cookies" condescension to the Cheerful Cheshire Cat without being a true charismatic actor (e.g., Reagan-like). But, Hillary was just a power-mad...stereotype...
Mikey NTH said ...
"Agreed. Hikkary had no political skills. Lacked chatisma and was not quick with her remarks."
Not sure if it was purposeful on your part or a fortuitous typo, but "Old Hickary" has a ring to it.
9/10/24, 4:53 PM
Oh noes!!!
https://x.com/TiffMoodNukes/status/1833254257602269625?s=19
There is nothing about the feminine gender that makes the female sex subordinate to the male sex. In fact, the sexes are equal under the principles of modern religions and complementary in Nature notwithstanding some ancient ideologies that persist in contemporary sects.
"The Simpsons" had a scene where a couple of guys in a dark room are shown furtively dipping their footwear into a large barrel labled "Loafer Lightener".
heh
"He had thought that viewers would react more negatively to a female Trump and more positively to a male Clinton because of gender bias — for instance, an aversion to a confrontational woman."
This narrative is a bullshit smear of men as misogynist for opposing Democrat Party women.
"You can't handle a strong woman" has always been complete bullshit and a manipulation to change the subject.
She’s their puppet.
She’s just a toy
Just a funny goy
Are never replicated because when people try to replicate them, they fail. It's not for lack of trying.
Surely, i'm Not the Only person; that's noticed that it's NOT people don't like the male Hilary!..
It's that people didn't like HILARY!
her opinions, her mannerisms, her posturing.. ALL are repulsive ; whether done by a male, or a female.
likewise; people Like Trumps views. They just don't like HIM
Typo. The small phone screen with the new format is hard to see what I just typed.
Sorry not sorry but, Kamala is a walking talking dictionary description of the old condemnation "Airhead"! Under any rational standard she has no, none, zero redeeming qualities. Even our hostess as an "elite" (reads all the right publications, sees the right movies/plays et al) wouldn't last two (2) minutes in a conversation with the VP without a "WTF are you saying?"
Speaking of the Kamel (one hump or two) This is an unearthed ABC profile of San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown in 1995.
Your jaw is about to hit the floor…
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1833539331505770508
When aren't the experts surprised?
I knew a lot of tough female lawyers in my years of practice who could have kicked Trump's ass in that debate, but Hillary wasn't in their league.
The guy who portrayed "Hillary" in the video came across as weak, but the woman who portrayed Trump came across as commanding. I think that's how the "real" Trump and the "real" Hillary were perceived by voters, and that's why Trump won and why we haven't seen Hillary in the arena since then.
In an honest election I find it hard to believe that most voters would pick Harris over Trump (notwithstanding his many serious flaws as a human being).
This just in: people like strong leaders and not placating airheads.
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