September 7, 2024

Is she even asking for a box?

Trump has this at Truth Social:
No boxes or artificial lifts will be allowed to stand on during my upcoming debate with Comrade Kamala Harris. We had this out previously with former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg when he was in a debate, and he was not allowed a “lift.” It would be a form of cheating, and the Democrats cheat enough. “You are who you are,” it was determined!
Easy for him, the taller one, to say. How quickly you perceive the principle in formal equality when you are the one who comes out ahead and when you are a member of the group that, systematically, gets the real-world benefit.

But though I am ready to make arguments in favor of lining the heads up for television viewing, I'm not seeing that her people are asking for that. 

Why not try it?

Would you debate him on a box?
Would you debate with him on Fox?
Not on a box. And not on Fox.
Not in a house. Not with a mouse.
Not here or there.
Not anywhere.

And check out this art project:

67 comments:

Ice Nine said...

What, he should just hand her an advantage? She already has been given every advantage there is, except of course, brainpower.

Aggie said...

In the real world, people come in an array of different heights. In the virtual world, anything can take on any appearance. Which one are we in? Interesting note, in the real world, cameras have swivels that allow it to adjust to what it's interested in looking at, and podiums come in different heights, too.

I bet the television viewers won't notice. If I had to bet, I'd bet this is about something else.

Leland said...

The art project may have been more interesting if there was more to see than just other people. The perspective is so vastly different when you see things from about 6 inches higher. You can see people at the same height all the time most often by sitting. More interesting... still interesting as it was.

RCOCEAN II said...

If you're deciding who to vote for, based on height, you're a moron and shouldnt be allowed to live without adult supervision. Why not give all women candidates a box and voice distorter that will make the them stronger and deeper? And if fat, a slimming effect on the TV.

RCOCEAN II said...

My not force both candidates to wear no makeup.

Political Junkie said...

I am too darn tall, so don't need a box. However, I would worry I would fall off a box in a debate. This is why I can't ever wear a wig in the future. Worry too much about it blowing off or being busted.

Narayanan said...

what if she up and sits on lectern/podium? and swings legs!

Whiskeybum said...

Lining up heads for TV viewing is unnecessary - the camera zoom-in on the speaker eliminates all differences in height. And the panned-out view requires no ‘’lining up” to get all faces in the picture.

If Kamala stands on a box, would Trump be allowed to also stand on one to revert back to the actual proportions? Why not just give here a shorter lectern if she’s worried about proportions? Or why use lecterns at all - just stand on the podium with nothing in front of them.

And if we’re going to with the ‘equality’ line of reasoning for the debate, how about ‘no makeup for either candidate’?

Political Junkie said...

Nice poem, Ann

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

That'll work. Swinging her legs is how she got where she is.

Whiskeybum said...

Maybe Kamala could borrow De Santis’ “campaign boots”.

Wince said...

At the art project should have green/blue screened the entire floor and walls the same color as the platforms to make at the party guests appear to be floating at the same eye level.

David53 said...

Genetically, not systematically

Harrison Bergeron

Skeptical Voter said...

You is what you is. And sometimes you use a box to try to be what you ain't.
Yup, Trump is a tall guy with some presence. Kamala had "other advantages".

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

If Harris gets to stand on a box, Trump should insist on the cameras us a slimming lens to make him look less fat. But then Harris will insist on a lens that makes her look black. So where does it all end?

Bob Boyd said...

The internet says Kamala is 5'2".
If one person gets a box, don't they have to let the other guy have a box the same size if he wants it? Then you're back where you started except now the podiums are too small.
Did Hillary get a box? She's at greater risk of falling off a box than say, a teetotaler would be. So is Kamala, it seems.
Drunk, in heels, on a box? Sounds like more GBV.

Mr. Majestyk said...

"Lining the heads up for television viewing" is deceptive. It's like that big bag of potato chips that is half-filled with air. Yes, the actual weight is listed on the package, but it sure looks like a lot more. Now maybe you may think voters shouldn't be influenced by outward appearances, but they are entitled to make their decision on any basis they want. And even if you pull the wool over the voters' eyes for this election, are you going to keep up the deception for the next 4 years? Are we going to insist Harris be seen as the same height as any foreigh leader she meets?

Howard said...

That's rich. Trump adds 2 inches to his perceived height just through his elevated scaffold of his hair system

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Yancey Ward said...

The Democrats have probably asked for a box if they are going to be standing- it is the reason for asking for a seated debate, by the way.

Ann Althouse said...

"My not force both candidates to wear no makeup."

I was just saying to Meade something along those lines. I want them emerging from a shower, shampooed and naked.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Today's blog has an "ick" theme?

Michael K said...

Why not ask Baron to debate her? He is 6-9. And smarter than Harris.

Breezy said...

Fun fact: Kamala Harris, Dana Bash, and Dana Perino are all about the same height. That Bash was that short surprised me!

Biden and Trump did not shake hands prior to their last debate. I presume there’ll be no handshake Tuesday either — not if one wants to hide their height, anyway.

Spiros said...

Trump's tremendous weight and height is the embodiment of an oppressive patriarchy. Women are hurt by the patriarchy (obviously) but so are very small men like Mike Bloomberg. Anyways, heightism and the patriarchy are linked but I'm not sure how...

Also, we hear so much about body acceptance from women, why not for men too? Maybe it's okay to be a giant, obese man like Trump? And what about very tall women?

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Maynard said...

Kamala should wear the 6 inch heels that Willie Brown bought for her.

Aggie said...

"And even if you pull the wool over the voters' eyes for this election, are you going to keep up the deception for the next 4 years..." What, you mean like the last 4 years?

Mary Beth said...

Regarding the art project, in the 1997 installation, the tallest platforms are on the bottom shelf with the shortest ones on the top shelf. In the 2021 installation, the tallest ones are on the top shelf. You can have equity, but you're going to have to ask for someone else's help to get it.

Enemy Within said...

Trump says his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris will be "rigged against him and unfair".

Of course he does. Everything is rigged and unfair unless he wins. Funny how he always makes the accusation before the event.

His playbook is familiar and tiresome.

Jupiter said...

Gotta love those covid masks. We may all be the same height, but we definitely aren't all the same. Is Kamala going to wear a covid mask? Will she go with the clinical bluish-white, or something more stylish?

fairmarketvalue said...

And so is Cammiela's.

Lazarus said...

The cartoon/meme of the three children watching a baseball game over a fence while standing on boxes, an image designed to illustrate equality and equity, has been all over the internet in recent years, so it's appropriate that the DEI candidate might need a box to stand on in the debates.

Dixcus said...

Trump is legitimizing these debates by participating in them. He shouldn't platform Kamala Harris.

Dixcus said...

Extending my remarks: Trump shouldn't legitimize a debate with a fake candidate - one who has not won a single Democrat Party election. We don't allow just anyone into a Presidential debate. You have to EARN that privileged by winning primary elections. By having the PEOPLE vote on you. Kamala Harris has not done that. Ever. It's UNPRECEDENTED in our history that a candidate who has not won a single primary election in her party is now allowed to participate in a Presidential debate.

Michael K said...

Are you paid by the word or by the number of comments ?

Daddy Binx said...

I want a laugh track.

And "sad trombone" every time Harris says she's unburdened by what has been.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Why should they get to shower?

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Lincoln would often start fairly serious meetings by asking people to stand back to back with him. He would always win.

From neck up only? No makeup is a start, but what about Harrison Bergeron, ugly masks? Of course if the prettiest person wears the ugliest mask, viewers can draw their own conclusions.

Richard Dolan said...

Asking for a box would be the affirmative action response in this context. Quite apart from the green-ham-and-eggs shtick, it’s easy to see why Team KH might want to avoid that look.

Goldenpause said...

Trump is doing what he does best: conducting psychological warfare against his opponents. They wind up losing their concentration and becoming their own worst enemies.

typingtalker said...

If I was involved in such a debate and found myself behind a too-tall lectern, I would step from behind it and address the audience while standing on my own two feet. I would look into the audience and the TV camera, speaking slowly, clearly and forcefully. That's one way that great teachers and orators do it.

But we know that at this event, one of the participants is neither a great teacher nor a great public speaker and nothing will change that.

Bruce Hayden said...

Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
To live

They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
'Round here

Short people are just the same
As you and I
(A fool such as I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It's a wonderful world)

Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
To love

They got little baby legs
And they stand so low
You got to pick 'em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That got beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin' peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They're gonna get you every time

Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
'Round here
Writer/s: Randy Newman

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Dixcus said...

If CNN starts covering it, then he'd better duck.

Because CNN never covers Donald Trump rallies.

But they went Live for his rally in Butler, PA, where he was expected and they had been alerted that he would be assassinated.

Mr. Forward said...

Somebody yell "FIRE"!

Howard said...

Nice pivot, doctor

Gunner said...

Anyone else remember Bidens height being touted as a reason why he intimidated Trump? That didn't work out too well.

Kevin said...

Short candidate standing on a box:
Republicans: FAKE!
Democrats: EQUITY!

Kevin said...

Would the candidate also get a box when standing beside Putin or Xi?

Inga said...

Democrats did not ask for a seated debate.

Sukito said...

Wow,

Indigo Red said...

VP Harris already has advantages that will get her eight years in the presidentcy. Many thousands of people will vote for Harris for no other reason than she is Black-Asian Female. That's the part that scares me. Those same people (my mother included) voted twice for Obama because he was the first Black president. nothing else mattered. On policy, I never believed Obama could be re-elected, but he was - because can't vote against the first Black president because racism. A vote for VP Harris is not for a four year term but for eight years. If she wins the first term, she will win the second also - because racism and sexism.

NMObjectivist said...

"I'm 6'3" and she's 5'4" and the tallest candidate always wins, so there."

n.n said...

A box is a metaphor for a prop (e.g. Candy Crowley, Judge Merchan, JournoLists).

n.n said...

... handmade tales, etc.

Iman said...

She wants to play the joyful, helpless victim.

Scott Patton said...

Cut her some slack. Everybody poops.

rehajm said...

I've thought the same thing. It's not like anyone on either side believes she will be the President

Darkisland said...

Make her deny that she asked for a box. Or don't even do that. President Trump can just say, "I heard somewhere that she asked for a box. Apparently I heard wrong and I apologize." Maybe even add "for giving the impression she is short" or would that be too nasty.

In any event, he has achieved his aim even if he doesn't say anything more. I'd never thought of Kamala as short before. Now I'm going to go to my grave thinking she is short because a) She is, compared to PDJT and B) PDJT has put it in my mind.

John Henry

Darkisland said...

I want to know about her dual citizenship. Is she still a dual citizen? (Did she renounce her Jamaican citizenship? Does she intend to?) and if so, doesn't she think it a potential conflict of interest?

I think PDJT needs to ask about that Tuesday night.

John Henry

John henry said...

Lbj had a "box" in his senate majority leader office.

Actually a platform on which his desk and chair sat. Also a hidden spotlight.
Some people forget what a little man lbj was. Not short, he was 6'3-1/2".but a truly little man.

Perhaps an even worse president than Biden or Carter because he could actually accomplish his nonsense.

John Henry

John Henry

tommyesq said...

Putin won't give you a box. Neither will Xi. Certainly not kimJung. Hell I doubt our allies would. Debate like you will have to perform in the real world.

Dr.Bunkypotatohead said...

An episode of Naked and Afraid featuring those two would snag some viewers.

Rusty said...

She's going to show up in a low cut evening dress? That would be funny as hell!

Narayanan said...

you could wear the one you can reach to get to ones you want to wear!!!
simple math!!!

PM said...

The essentials:
1. Paradise Lost
2. The Rime of the Ancient Mariner
3. Green Eggs and Ham
4. The Wasteland