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10. Canada: Dog meat is legally sold at restaurants in Canada.... Food animals are “mammal or bird raised in captivity–whose meat or meat or by-products were for human consumption.” So to obtain a license you have to prove that the dogs were raised explicitly for food and not keep as pets....12. Switzerland: A small percentage of Swiss population secretly eats cats, dogs, and horses. Eating cat and dog meat is part of Christmas celebrations. While there are no commercial slaughterhouses for cats and dogs, farmers kill the animals themselves.... Swiss cantons of Appenzell and St. Gallen have a tradition of eating dog meat, preserving it as sausages, as well as using it for medicinal purposes.
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Savages. Absolute savages. We'd never do that in the US.
So now we are supposed to accept the poaching of geese, ducks, and local pets because some cultures eat dogs.
Remember... It is racist to claim that Haitians eat stolen cats and semi domesticated urban waterfowl. It is racist to claim that Chinese people DO NOT eat stolen cats and diseased bats.
The Swiss are a lot more than they appear to be
The joke in town was that when the Chinese restaurant opened the pigeon population nose dived. And it did. There were two schools of thought: sweet and sour.
"Police Report Describes Haitians Carrying Dead Geese Down the Street in Springfield, Ohio"
They do it in Switzerland and Canada - so - it's all good.
Maybe it's not so much the eating part, though there is a video of a police officer arresting a Black woman with a bloody mouth and a dead cat in Springfield, Ohio, but rather the use of dogs and cats in religious ceremonies. Maybe the disappearing cats and dogs are being used in voodoo AND pagan and wiccan rituals. I don't think the Haitian migrants are the only culprits!
Planned Poochhood. In America, we, on the other hand, have Planned Parenthood. Progress: one step forward, two steps backward.
1. Only a Trump-supporting racist would believe the debunked story that Haitian illegal immigrants are eating neighbor's pets and waterfowl from the public parks. The story has been debunked !
2. People from other cultures sometimes eat animals that would normally be considered pets. This is not considered unusual - some Americans have pet goats and cows. Only close-minded Trump supporters would think this is wrong, even if it's happening in their small town.
3. It is common to eat different forms of protein in developing cultures, and people should be open to experimenting with their diet to improve their local ecology and reduce the destruction of the land, including eating insects.
4. It's racist to condemn other Americans because of what they eat, wherever they might be from .
- You are now at Step 2 -
The upside of opening our borders to mass illegal immigration is that we import all of the wonderful customs- including dining customs- from other nations. I'll be much more careful where to walk our new pup.
We all used to joke about the scarcity of cats around any strip centers with Chinese restaurants. No one jokes about that anymore.
Harry Lime:
"Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
Leonard : Why are you learning Mandarin?
Sheldon : I suspect that the people at the Szechuan Palace are passing off orange chicken as tangerine chicken, and I intend to confront them.
Leonard : If I were you, I'd be more worried about what they're passing off as chicken.
Some people eat dirt. And good luck trying to emigrate to Switzerland.
A nation with an established Pro-Choice ethical religion: selective, opportunistic, politically congruent ("=").
This is not a good issue for the Democrats, despite the fact that it reinforces Trump's penchant for wild rants.
They can play it two ways and neither is very good for them. They can say it is ridiculous to even think immigrants would do such a thing which is not believable. Or, they can say that its no biggie and we should be tolerant of such behavior, which others immigrants in a very visceral way.
As a politician, or any public figure, you do not want to be on the wrong side of dog owners in the US. Just ask Michael Vick. Cats, sort of but not so much. We all know the cats would eat us, without any remorse, if they had the chance. Everyone knows who Vance was talking about re: Childless cat ladies. Nobody got offended other than the people he was talking about.
It will be interesting to see whether the Taylor Swift endorsement or the story about eating cats and dogs has a larger impact on the election.
My money is on the cats and dogs.
It's a good way to get rid of non-migratory Canada geese, except you still have the Haitians.
I have good feelings towards Haiti owing to my first real foreign (not Canada) ham radio contact having been HH2OT at age 12. He sent me a card too. He was a missionary. The world would be a better place if we filled small Ohio towns with missionaries.
13. Arctic and Antarctic: Sorry, these aren't countries.
This is the same dynamic as the fine-people-on-both-sides hoax.
1. Say something demonstrably false.
2. Have the other side deny it.
3. Endlessly debate how many people on the other side are neo-nazis/dog and cat eaters.
In China and other areas of the Orient, they consume aborted fetuses. In America and other democracies, they cannibalize them for products and profit. In Africa, they do the same with Albinos (the "rainbow" people) with a belief that justifies personal progress. Under the sincerely held belief in [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] climate change, followers perform or advocate for human rites that will reduce the carbon footprint in the pursuit of fair weather.
The bottom line is that, as a source of meat, carnivores are generally a poor option. There is not a lot there, and it tends to be tough and sinewy (so I'm told).
If Trump wants to flip the news conversation, he needs to find an incident of an immigrant killing and eating a horse.
The story has not been debunked. What has been debunked is that it occurs in Diversity (e.g. racism, sexism, classicism) blocs.
I' sorry, my coffee isn't kicking in yet; What's the 'demonstrably false' part you're referring to?
I have some photos I took in rural Vietnam of butchered dogs for sale in a roadside market. I may or may not have eaten dog or cat on that trip. I didn't always know exactly what I was eating in local restaurants because of the language barrier. I was off the beaten path tourism-wise.
What does Kristi Noem have to say about all this?
Pitbulls, xl Bullies and Cane Corsos will eat you too. In fact any dog will eat your face off if they're hungry enough.
If you want to eat dogs, go back to your home country.
The trick is, let it simmer on low for a long time, and easy on the salt
Was it during the Carter admin that horse became legal in some states to sell in butcher shops?
I don't see them so much anymore but we used to have a lot of small "pinchos" stands alongside the roads of Puerto Rico. Pinchos are kebabs. Chunks of meat, pepper, onion maybe some other things on a wooden skewer cooked over charcoal or gas grill.
I think the health department got after them for not having sanitary licenses and closed them down.
They might be just a guy with a grill and an icechest to a food truck and everthing in between. Many run by Puerto Ricans but many run by Dominicans and Haitians.
Rumor was that a lot of the meat served was not pork, beef and chicken but dog. With enough sauce, there was no telling.
Much as I love pinchos, I was always scared of the roadside vendors.
John Henry
And people mock India for "sacred cows" ??
In Québec, where I lived for 15 years, we have restaurants featuring viande chevaline [horse meat] and you can purchase horse in many major grocery stores. It is delicious.
During my years in Yukon, most villages had "dog stew" competitions, akin to chilli competitions in the US. People raise working dogs, mostly for dog-sleds, but from every litter they choose only one or two. The rest will be killed in any case. The meat is a lot like 'rose veal', and at its best has a delightful nutty flavour, especially if they've been weaned onto lesser cuts of caribou. Fed on fish heads and guts ... no.
I also enjoyed "cat", but not your standard moggie -- LYNX. That cat has fantastic fur, and a population cycle of 11 years, slightly lagging that of the Snowshoe Hare. Licenced trappers get them in massive numbers during peak years, as they will die anyway, of starvation. The government buys all those pelts at an average price and sells them gradually for the next 11 years.
Trappers thus have a stable income from an insanely unstable crop, but in peak lynx years there are a *lot* of kitty-thighs around. Rather tasty, actually, and I was fortunate enough to be around during a peak population year.
We also ate a lot of beaver -- the 4-legged RODENT version -- but I did not care much for it until trapper friends here in Kansas made some proper BBQ out of the critters.
Horsemeat used to be a menu item at the Harvard Faculty Club until the late 70s according to Wikipedia.
There are still restaurants that serve horsemeat in the US.
Duck and goose dishes are available at many high end restaurants.
Alligator meat is a menu item in many restaurants in Louisiana.
and so on.
One man's pet is another man's meat. I see no culinary or moral difference between eating cat and eating rabbit. I do see cultural differences, of course.
John Henry
I hope Kristi Noem didn’t let that dog meat go to waste.
Formerly VE2 FLZ. Somehow my son, in Lawrence, Kansas, snagged KC8 BBQ.
Di-DAH-di-DAH-dit.
I have newfound respect for Barack Obama
Reading the linked article, seems dog meat has medicinal qualities, and will keep you warm in winter and cool in summer.
Wonder what effect dog, or cat, meat would have on covid? How many homeless people would be saved from freezing to death during brutal winters, or Phoenix summers?
Might be time to study the effects of dog and cat diet.
The arctic isn't even a place, it has no land at all. It is merely an extremely large floating iceberg.
John Henry
Kevin said...
“13. Arctic and Antarctic: Sorry, these aren't countries.”
Ditto Africa.
I don't think I have heard of eating fetii in the US but eating placenta is apparently a thing with some of the in crowd.
I think it was one of the Podestas who made the news during the Obama years for doing this.
Also for having child porn in their living room. But it was tasteful and "art" so no biggie. It got fawningly written up in WaPo to show how cool they were.
John Henry
Just ask Paul Erdman about the Swiss.
John Henry
Don't forget Santeria, which is widely practiced by Latin-American gangs.
Sometime in the distant past (1980s?) there was a Chinese restaraunt on Regent by the UW football stadium that suddenly was closed down, reportedly because they were using neighborhood pets as protein in their meals. No idea if that was true.
I call bullshit on the Swiss thing. A small percentage in secret = zero. Yeah, I bet "a small percentage" of Jewish rabbis eat ham and pork "In secret". There's a humorous Korean movie about a guy who kills eats dogs. I forgot the name, but i believe its by a famous director. The movie contrast the well-to-do Korean love for dogs with their indifference toward the Korean poor. Funniest bit: "the boiler Jim" story.
As a home-birther I can attest that eating placenta was a thing, although not something I was willing to do. Growing a baby is depleting to a mother's body, and the nutrient-rich placenta can replenish some of the lost vitamins and minerals. Some people cook it up like a sausage.
I don't eat placenta, dogs, cats, horses, or crickets. Chicken and beef for me, please, with a tasty spring lamb every now and then.
Btw, in several Islamic countries cats are so prized they're allowed to roam around without hinderance and are fed by the public. IRC, Istanbul is one such city.
Sea turtle meat used to be big in Puerto Rico in the 70s before the feds outlawed it. I've eaten it a number of times and always enjoyed it.
Even after it was outlawed, some seafood restaurants would still serve it in the 80s. It was not on the menu and you had to ask for veal. If they didn't know you or were uncertain, it was "sorry, we don't serve veal. Only what is on the menu"
But I was still eating "veal" in my favorite seafood restaurant of all time (Paradise Seafood, Humacao Playa) into the lat 80s early 90s.
John Henry
LOL! The Left really thought they had Trump with that video from the debate and the fact checking done on the fly is already failing. This is kind of like the LBJ pigfucker story but actually true.
Switzerland, we hardly knew ye. Maybe dog- and cat-eating is the secret of their economic success.
The. Babylon Bee for the win.
Import turd-world dog eaters and that's what Ohio, CO, & etc will turn into. America needs a French Revolution level reset of its elites. TSTB too. Ask that famous dog eater Barry Sotero what dipping sauces he recommends bc I'm sure he has thoughts. Fuck this piss earth hellscape and [lengthy fed poast screed.]
Now do countries where they eat geese and ducks. I'll start:
United States
I'm as opposed as anyone to untrammeled illegal immigration, but let's get something straight: Eating wildlife isn't illegal and even if it is, too bad, because it's going to happen. Killing a duck and eating it is your right as a human being. They don't belong to the park, or to the federal government.
The Babylon Bee headline alone is worth posting. Perfectly captures the Democrats'/Media's state of mind:
"Media Assures Americans That Migrants Haven’t Killed Any Cats, Just Women And Children".
Bet they won’t import any Haitians into Key West.
So it's OK to appropriate other peoples culture now?
We hired some foreign exchange students a few years ago, a couple of whom were from Kazahstan. They were smart, hard working, very kind and enthusiastic. Good people. When they arrived I asked them, as a way to break the ice, about their favorite food. "Beshbarmak," they enthused. A national dish, eaten around a large platter by family and friends; a pile of dumplings, potatoes and onions topped with thinly sliced... horse. Now, I have eaten cheval in Paris, so eating horse does not shock or offend me. Nonetheless, I felt compelled to warn them that many Americans would not share their taste. That most Americans would be disgusted and some might even be angry and judgemental. Horses, I explained, were thought of as pets, as companions, almost as equals. It could only be worse, I concluded, if you said you ate dog.
"Oh! We love dog meat, too!! Its delicious!"
I'm not sure if the claims from Springfield, OH are true, it smells like BS to me, but I don't think there's anything wrong with eating dog. Just don't eat my dog. Or anyone's pet. That is where the problem resides. That is where cultures truly collide.
"Just don't eat my dog. Or anyone's pet. That is where the problem resides. That is where cultures truly collide."
How are newly arrived lawbreakers supposed to know which laws it's okay to break (illegally entering the country) and which aren't (illegally taking someone's pet)?
Dang me. Back in 1960 I was an American Field Service foreign exchange student living with a family in Bern, Switzerland. And sometimes they ate sausages. Was Rover part of the sausage?
And as for those ducks and geese that Haitians are supposedly eating in Springfield Ohio. I saw a video yesterday of an elderly resident in Springfield. He'd gone down to the park where hundreds of ducks and geese used to live. He said the ducks were thought of as "pets" by the locals. Where once there were hundreds of ducks and geese--now just dozens. Looks like the "pantry in the park" is running low.
A tale of Diversity, equivocation, and indifference, where a community once united in common cause, is divided in ambiguous consensus.
Supposedly, in the early days of Saturday Night Live, when the censors let just about anything through, they drew the line on a mock TV advertisement for "Placenta Helper", a riff on the then popular "Hamburger Helper".
Rocco, Africa is countries. 30-40 of them.
John Henry
The abundant cats of the Colosseum in Rome are famous. My father-in-law lived there during the war as a very young boy. As he told it, when the war privations got harsher and harsher, the cats became rarer and rarer. However, some local restaurants were still able to serve "chicken".
As soon as Trump, Vance and Musk focused their followers on this town, this was bound to happen.
City Hall in Springfield, Ohio was evacuated this morning after a bomb threat
https://www.wdtn.com/top-stories/springfield-city-hall-evacuated-after-threat/
Not consumptIon in a diet, but rather clinical cannibalism.
China ended the practice when they aborted State's Choice.
China ended the practice when they aborted State's Choice.
"15 Countries...."
..11. Africa
..13. Arctic and Antarctic
??
Canine vests in Springfield
Service Dog
Do Not Eat
Be careful about cannibalism. It can kill you. And I am not taking just the eatees, but the eaters too. Mad Cow Disease was apparently caused by cattle being fed some beef byproducts. Cannibalism can result in prions (misfolded proteins) being created and getting into their brains. Turns out, it looks like the same thing happens when humans eat other humans. Your brain rots, you go crazy, and nothing can be done to save you.
“Human sacrifice… dogs and cats on the menu… MASS HYSTERIA!”
Eating horse meat has a noble past. Some 210 years ago, the first white men coming through where our town would ultimately be built, in NW MT, ended up eating some of their horses, before they were able to find some friendly Indians to trade with. For the next 20 years, the whites traded tobacco, guns, shot, etc for meat, and ultimately pelts. Then the Blackfoot were pushed over the Continental Divide by the Sioux, etc, and they pushed the friendly Indians they had been trading with further west. In any case, the name of the book, containing some of the original white explorer’s diaries, alludes to the eating of the horses, to keep from starving.
Taking wildlife out of season and in non-hunting zone is illegal as hell. If this were white people killing ducks and geese in the parks, they'd be held accountable.
Charcaturie?
Give “Barry’s on teh Dogwalk” a try…
you make your dining selection from the famous puppy tank just inside the entryway
“We also ate a lot of beaver -- the 4-legged RODENT version…”
Thanks for clearing that one up, Bart! 😆
Puppies in a Blanket, corned bulldog hash, toast and coffee $1.99 @ Barky’s
The cited article continues that, despite the fact that the law doesn't officially exclude slaughtering dogs for food, there are no legally sanctioned dog slaughterhouses anywhere in Canada, and without legally sanctioned slaughterhouses, there is no legal consumption of dogs in Canada. So legal consumption of dogs there is a myth. The article states that there is an underground market for cat and dog flesh.
Switzerland has always struck me as a little louche.
"This steak still has marks from where the jockey was hitting it!" --Al Czervik
I'm waiting for the second box of my Snake River Farms order to arrive....
Migratory waterfowl big bucks!
“Alligator meat is a menu item in many restaurants in Louisiana”
Yes, FLA too… and if you eat some, it will transport you back to the 3rd grade and your habit of chewing pencil erasers.
At least into the mid-90s there was a stand in the Naschmarkt in Vienna that sold Pferdfleisch. For all I know it's still there.
Obama eats dogs! Back in the day.
Fake AI videos coming soon.
As soon as Trump, Vance and Musk focused their followers on this town, this was bound to happen.
We need better trolls.
Taazakhabar News Bureau? OK....
Went to Iceland a couple of years ago (highly recommended). They eat horse. But they raise on type for riding and one for roasting.
Heading to Peru in less than a week. They recommend trying Cuy.... fried Guinea Pig - served whole including head, teeth and claws. I sent a pic to those we are traveling with. No bueno.
I've heard of sausage dogs, but this is ridiculous.
https://9gag.com/gag/aD2zLXx
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