That's what it says in The Washington Post, in "The new social media etiquette: Post your politics, not your kids/From Facebook to TikTok, social media norms are always shifting. These tips can help you post properly."
There's also this: "Content creators choose to share their lives or work with the world, but they are not actually your friend (usually). They also aren’t receptacles for your emotions or opinions. These nouveau celebrities don’t owe you much of anything, so there’s no sense in getting mean or demanding...."
Is this "new... etiquette"? Isn't it pretty much the same etiquette we've had all along, even before social media. "Content creators" are just another form of famous person. Only nuts — or children — imagine that a celebrity is in a personal relationship with them.
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Do what the Washington Post commands.
Tell everyone it’s because you’re an independent thinker.
More life advice from English majors.
WaPo telling us how to post properly?
Quayle said...
More life advice from English majors.
I'm an English major. My advice is to ignore WaPo and their bullshit dicta.
Is this "new... etiquette"? Isn't it pretty much the same etiquette we've had all along, even before social media.
I'm old. So old etiquette was never talk about Religion or politics in polite company.
My spidey sense has been awakened.
I have hesitated to start Social Media accounts, because not knowing Proper Etiquette. Now I can start.
Oh. Paywall at WaPo. No Joy.
I agree with iowan2. Casual acquaintances (which are 99% of your social media contacts if you are honest) didn't talk politics or religion except in the most general and superficial terms. Such discussions were held in a time, place, and manner where everybody knew what was going to happen, and disagreements could be delete with.
Social media is also not a conversation. Corrections and conflicting opinions are not just unlikely but can easily be ignored with the block and delete buttons
Like Breezy, I sense a disturbance in the (Democrat) Force, like the WaPo is worried millions for whom "the personal is the political" aren't thinking that way any more.
"I'm old. So old etiquette was never talk about Religion or politics in polite company."
But there were places where you talk about these things.
Personally, I don't post about politics (or religion) on Facebook, but if one of my friends does, then I might add a comment, usually only to bring moderation.
I haven't heard anything from my uncle in 8 years. I'm sure he has posted some occasional stuff about his life, but it is not worth reading about how much he hates Trump to find it.
Some of those etiquette rules aren't good advice.
Post about your politics
That sounds like a plan to destabilize relationships and cause divisive arguments. It also seems like a good way for activists to identify their enemies.
Don’t overstep with influencers
What's the point of following an influencer if you can't overstep? Of course you are free to criticize or give advice to influencers. They put themselves out there, and can certainly handle criticism.
Read the room
What does that mean when the room is the internet?
Ironically, the Post insists that it is politically neutral. It won't follow its own advice about transparency.
My Facebook experience is that people are either all kids or all politics. I'm tired of both at this point. The political commentary in particular is never remotely original or interesting.
I'm going to say again what I've said before - thank you, Althouse lefties, for sticking around! And thank you for bringing your best arguments, when you do - and I renew my intent to answer you with mine, when I answer.
That said, we'll probably not be Facebook friends, not because of your politics (I actually think it'd be a hoot to know Howard and Robert Cook IRL, for instance) but because this community, whatever else it is and however much I value the time I spend here, is not my inner circle.
Not just your politics. Post about your religion. Let everyone know why you believe the one true faith or why atheism is the answer. If your friends think otherwise, let them know--in respectful and civil terms--why they are damned or, alternately, ignorant bigots. Also sex. If your Pornhub history has a lot of teen agers engaging in orgies, let everyone know about it. It's an interesting and informative fact that gives depth to your online persona. Sex doesn't just belong to feminists and gays....If you post everything there is to be known about your religion, politics, and sex, then you can go on to form true, authentic friendships and you'll never be lonely again.
I fail to understand the need to share one’s opinions and views (beyond a small circle of friends or family - in person or in actual conversation.) Is it a need for validation? A need to be known or understood? Is it an assumption that sharing the opinion somehow matters or is brave and responsible? When did it become some requirement or responsibility?
Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend.
To Quayle and Mr. D:
I, too, was an English major. I wasn't long out of school before I realized the folly of it.
That said, I'm still producing. WaPo is going out of business. There aren't many left looking to them for advice on much of anything.
Do what the hell you want to do. It's still a free country, even if you live in the prison of your warped and demented mind.
Why am I thinking that if people started following the WaPo's advice; you'd be seeing a lot of pearl clutching coming out of the WaPo newsroom over what was being posted on Facebook?
"""Post about your politics" on social media... "Let your friends and family know where you stand..."
The overwhelming majority of people who post about politics on Facebook are, in varying degrees, left of center. Posts that are inconvenient to The Narrative™ are flagged by AI bots or FB minders, or they invite all manner of opprobrium from people who love the meme factories. Even when I have objected to patently false posts by bringing up facts (such as the brouhaha about Cambridge Analytica), people would pile on with ad hominems or tu quoque fallacies until I posted links to mainstream news reports showing how personal data was misused, and fed to Cambridge Analytica to prepare lists of potential contacts to be used by influencers in the 2012 election.
Disagreeing with such people can get you canceled. Believe me, I know.
t is already well established in leftist circles that a prime determinant of one's social worth is how a person interacts (or does not interact) sexually with his/her/their fellow humans. There are homosexuals, bisexuals, demisexuals, allosexuals, asexuals, and (ick) heterosexuals.
Once thought to be something not discussed in polite company, one's genital-related preferences and compulsions are now assigned reading, to be discussed in and out of class ad nauseam.
Once that detail is covered, nothing else is too personal or inappropriate to be publicly detailed.
Once one's sexuality is proclaimed with a banner or placard, political beliefs, once rightly considered personal and private, are routinely also displayed as public information, to be evaluated by the public at large.
Even talking about the weather is political today, and destabilizing to civil society.
All the easier for Mr. Cloward and Ms. Piven to complete their project.
Entropy is their plan.
"Only nuts — or children — imagine that a celebrity is in a personal relationship with them."
Of course, locking people out of schools and workplaces and public spaces for 2 years--narrowing their social life to the virtual reality of the internet--might drive them nuts or at the very least make them act childishly.
I so miss the Trump days when Facebook was filled with people calling themselves members of “the resistance”. So funny to read their insane unhinged rants. Oh so serio7s people.
Temujin said...
“To Quayle and Mr. D:
I, too, was an English major.”
I’ll third that.
And that is a significant milestone in my path to being a small government conservative. I got an English degree to improve my effective communication skills. But I quickly realized politics is about rhetoric rather than logic.
Fortunately,I had 3 years of CompSci classes to fall back on.
WP:
"Post about your politics" on social media... "Let your friends and family know where you stand... ... not just on national politics, but on local and international issues as well. Do research and share your thoughts in a respectful manner. Welcome corrections and conflicting opinions. Over time, you’ll become better versed."
Far Q WP.
Anyone believing they want this applied to both sides of the political spectrum is an idiot. They want self-doxing.
"Anyone believing they want this applied to both sides of the political spectrum is an idiot. They want self-doxing."
Exactly. Everybody knows where most leftists stand on just about everything because they never shut up about it. It's those sneaky conservatives who keep to themselves (you know, to keep from having their cars keyed) who need to be positively identified. So their cars can be keyed.
"Such discussions were held in a time, place, and manner where everybody knew what was going to happen, and disagreements could be delete with.
That is a funny auto-correct.
"Post about your politics" on social media... "Let your friends and family know where you stand..."
Lol Yeah, be the guy everyone silently mutes from their timelines.
Clearly the WaPo wants conservatives to identify themselves so that they can be harassed and/or shunned. It was peoples' political postings that drove me entirely off Facebook. If you want to do that, use a separate account so others can opt in or out. (My wife keeps up with the family stuff.)
I left Facebook because of my friends' politics. I tried merely ignoring it for a while, but then I had to completely disconnect from it. The account still there so I can go back I suppose, but I have zero motivation to do so.
NOTHING from the Washington Post or the NYTimes is ever done without a democrat political angle. Yes, post your politics so we can find you, key your car, protest your home and send someone threatening out to you.
They missed the (or several of the) boat(s).
Tell us about veganism.
Or how and why you bike down the center of the highway lanes.
What sex acts does your partner(s) especially enjoy, or not.
And very detailed descriptions of your genitalia (send a PM for photos!)
So, so many things.
Post frequently about my politics on social media? Why?? So I can get into ridiculous circular-arguments and feel like crap for the rest of the day?
Silent minority here, a self-described "far middle nutjob." I used to include this on my Facebook profile when I first signed up, but removed it long ago. I'm just trying to avoid the side eyes and eye-rolling that I feel through my screen, LOL. Thankfully no eye-rolling allowed in courtrooms nowadays!
I've always found it interesting that many love to wear their politics on their sleeve. "Can't we all just get along?!" ... paraphrased from a famous Angeleno.
What I have learned from social media over the years, everyone else is always right! I'm the most uninformed, dumb soul out here.
"Post about your politics" on social media... "Let your friends and family know where you stand."
Worst advice ever!
All you're going to do is risk making people uncomfortable or angry. It's also a good way to negatively affect your career.
I wish that it weren't that way, but it is. Some people just can't behave themselves.
This reminds me of that article last year where the author advised people to openly discuss politics during Thanksgiving dinner.
"Only nuts — or children — imagine that a celebrity is in a personal relationship with them."
Meade may beg to differ!
"But there were places where you talk about these things."
Yeah, the pub. You didn't post them on a bulletin board outside your house.
A church friend of mine asked me why I was a Trump supporter. I was befuddled for as far as I could recall I had made no overt sign that I was. When I asked, he told me he knew because I like to discuss politics but have not made a single political post on Facebook.
Apparently my silence speaks loudly.
Post your politics! It makes the commie cancel culture death squad easy to find you.
I gave up Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends many years ago. After you've seen a couple of photos of their cute kids, you're quite willing to wait for the Christmas card or the graduation announcement. The rest of it is political bickering, and social-climbing, attention-seeking one-upmanship. "Look what I'm eating for breakfast!" "Well look what I'm eating for breakfast! On the beach in Tahiti, teehee!"
I keep a pseudonymous account locked down just as tightly as I can, because there are a few groups on Facebook that provide an irreplaceable meeting place and archive for certain hobbies and pastimes I care about. I have no friends and no one is allowed to friend me or even send me direct messages. It's un-searchable, and no one ever sees any page I have liked or comment I have made on some other forum. Not even my wife and kids are connected to me, although to be fair, they too have nearly abandoned FB altogether.
No social media.
No social media angst.
Is it a need for validation?
Yep. And while Republicans/conservatives sometimes do it, far more often it's Democrats/leftists.
Case in point:
This whole, stupid Harrison Butker thing. One of my leftist friends announced she will no long watch the Chiefs ... and admitted doing so in the past. So, I wrote her a private message.
"I stopped watching the NFL when they started that kneeling crap and never went back. But I didn't feel the need to announce it publicly."
We went back and forth on the merits of Butker, but she never addressed that point.
I noticed that people on the left can't help but tell me what their political beliefs are without any understanding of what mine are. I left on the ride her very different..
I delete all political posts on FB/IG. The algorithm must know this by now since I seldom see them anymore. Only family, friends, and nature photos. For politics, I come to Althouse, and less often the NYT or a podcast, but all in small doses.
Post your conservative political positions on social media- and get banned.
Not possible to have a freewheeling political discussion on the major social media sites. Merely telling the truth about the absolutely useless 6 foot social distancing requirement was made up and completely invalid was enough to get banned from social media during the covidiocy. Still today posts about the uselessness of the vaccine that isn't get covered up with warnings- or simply disappear.
This blog comment section is a bastion of political free speech. Especially compared to MSM comment sites. The NY Slimes locks down their comments whenever the subject invites controversy. Defined as "Most of the comments are going to express Wrongthink!"
And don't forget to include your real name, home address, and phone number. So you can have real time discussions with everyone about your political beliefs.
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