Althouse: Sunrise

November 23, 2023

Sunrise — 6:45.

39 comments:

farmgirl said...: Stunning.
Both photos are stunning- I love the lake best in this one.
We had a great Thanksgiving: 25 people, a 31.4# turkey (which my daughter-in-law dry brined on Tuesday morning for me.)
Oh, &2 babies. Little boys.

Many blessings.
Amen.; 11/23/23, 8:05 PM
farmgirl said...: … &Happy, Happy to you all, as well.; 11/23/23, 8:08 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: We who live abroad are accustomed to believe that almost all Eretz Yisrael is now uninhabited desert and whoever wishes can buy land there as he pleases. But this is not true. It is very difficult to find in the land [ha–aretz] cultivated fields that are not used for planting. Only those sand fields or stone mountains that would require the investment of hard labor and great expense to make them good for planting remain uncultivated and that–s because the Arabs do not like working too much in the present for a distant future. Therefore, it is very difficult to find good land for cattle. And not only peasants, but also rich landowners, are not selling good land so easily. [–]– (quoted in Wrestling with Zion by Ahad Ha'am AKA Asher Ginsberg, p. 14 (1891)

–We who live abroad are accustomed to believing that the Arabs are all wild desert people who, like donkeys, neither see nor understand what is happening around them. But this is a grave mistake. The Arab, like all the Semites, is sharp minded and shrewd. All the townships of Syria and Eretz Yisrael are full of Arab merchants who know how to exploit the masses and keep track of everyone with whom they deal – the same as in Europe. The Arabs, especially the urban elite, see and understand what we are doing and what we wish to do on the land, but they keep quiet and pretend not to notice anything. For now, they do not consider our actions as presenting a future danger to them. – But, if the time comes that our people–s life in Eretz Yisrael will develop to a point where we are taking their place, either slightly or significantly, the natives are not going to just step aside so easily. [–]– (quoted in Wrestling with Zion, pp. 14-15)

–We must surely learn, from both our past and present history, how careful we must be not to provoke the anger of the native people by doing them wrong, how we should be cautious in out dealings with a foreign people among whom we returned to live, to handle these people with love and respect and, needless to say, with justice and good judgment. And what do our brothers do? Exactly the opposite! They were slaves in their Diasporas, and suddenly they find themselves with unlimited freedom, wild freedom that only a country like Turkey [the Ottoman Empire] can offer. This sudden change has planted despotic tendencies in their hearts, as always happens to former slaves [–eved ki yimlokh – when a slave becomes king – Proverbs 30:22]. They deal with the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, trespass unjustly, beat them shamefully for no sufficient reason, and even boast about their actions. There is no one to stop the flood and put an end to this despicable and dangerous tendency. Our brothers indeed were right when they said that the Arab only respects he who exhibits bravery and courage. But when these people feel that the law is on their rival–s side and, even more so, if they are right to think their rival–s actions are unjust and oppressive, then, even if they are silent and endlessly reserved, they keep their anger in their hearts. And these people will be revengeful like no other. [–]– (quoted in Wrestling with Zion, p. 15)

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"We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it employment in our country. The property owners will come over to our side. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discretely and circumspectly. Let the owners of the immoveable property believe that they are cheating us, selling us things for more than they are worth. But we are not going to sell them anything back."

- Theodor Herzl, the founder of Zionism (1895); 11/23/23, 8:46 PM
wild chicken said...: I found this wonderful quote by Doris Lessing from Kate Millet's Flying:

"...the Left could mean dull persons shouting at meetings. Boring me to death with their egos. With words. Verbiage more outrageous the less it meant. They hated art. In time I came to fear that they hated people as well. Living lives of frenzied emotionality based on the sufferings of other persons in other countries about whom they seemed to care very little except to find them convenient for certain neurotic needs and schemes of their own.”

They never change do they.; 11/23/23, 8:50 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: hawkeyedjb said...

"Crack, why would your "native land" be anything other than where you were born and raised?"

Because we know - and are reminded daily - whites in America see this as their land, as much as Zionists see Palestine as theirs. Blacks would've given sovereignty back to the Indians by now. What do we care?

Whites care.

"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

Winston Churchill, on Palestinians, to the Peel Commission on a Jewish Homeland in Palestine - right after a Palestinian uprising - 1937.; 11/23/23, 9:06 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: "The antisemites WILL BECOME our most loyal friends, the antisemites nations will become our allies."

- Theodor Herzl, the founder of Zionism, nailing it.; 11/23/23, 9:10 PM
Sydney said...: Saw Napoleon tonight. Worse portrayal of the man ever. The battle of Waterloo scenes were well done, but the others were just gore.; 11/23/23, 10:06 PM
gadfly said...: According to Wiki, Eretz Yisrael is normally referred to as the Southern Levant, and it corresponds approximately to modern-day Israel, Palestine, and Jordan; some definitions also include southern Lebanon, southern Syria, and/or the Sinai Peninsula.

The Southern Levant lies on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea, in the world region known variously as the Near East, the Middle East, or Western or Southwestern Asia. It is bordered to the east, southeast, and southwest by the Syrian, Arabian, and Sinai deserts, respectively Some definitions include parts of these deserts in the region. The Litani River in southern Lebanon is commonly considered the dividing line between the Southern Levant and the Northern Levant (i.e. Syria or sometimes the Orontes River, also in Lebanon.)

Note that the climate and dry conditions are unchanged from biblical times. But modernization has been helped of late by the Israeli economy and by crude oil found in the desert mostly in the Arab countries.

Crack, if you want to read about the meaning of Zion, try the Hebrew Bible.; 11/23/23, 11:38 PM
Shalet Jimmy said...: First time here...Beautiful picture; 11/24/23, 12:59 AM
gadfly said...: Remember Kevin McCarthy's unapproved impeachment inquiry?
The New Yorker

Satire from The Borowitz Report

Republicans Demand Biden Tell Them Why They Are Impeaching Him
By Andy Borowitz

September 14, 2023

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In an irate letter to the White House, Kevin McCarthy and other congressional Republicans have demanded that President Biden reveal why they are impeaching him.

The letter claims that, after Republicans announced their impeachment inquiry, “the White House has stubbornly refused to provide us with any reasons for our doing so.”

The Republicans go on to demand that Biden reveal the rationale for his ouster “immediately, or face the consequences.”

“The American people are waiting, Mr. President, for you to explain to us why we are impeaching you,” the letter concludes. “Your silence will not be forgiven.”; 11/24/23, 2:44 AM
Eva Marie said...: “They were slaves in their Diasporas, and suddenly they find themselves with unlimited freedom, wild freedom that only a country like Turkey [the Ottoman Empire] can offer. This sudden change has planted despotic tendencies in their hearts, as always happens to former slaves [–eved ki yimlokh – when a slave becomes king – Proverbs 30:22]. They deal with the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, trespass unjustly, beat them shamefully for no sufficient reason, and even boast about their actions. There is no one to stop the flood and put an end to this despicable and dangerous tendency.”
I wonder if this is true of all descendants of former slaves?; 11/24/23, 5:04 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: gadfly said...

"Crack, if you want to read about the meaning of Zion, try the Hebrew Bible."

Herzl, was an atheist, but I'll look, though Orthodox Jews seem to know it and don't agree. They say Zionism is a dark twisted fantasy, which - to me - looks much like the same bogus NewAge smorgasbord of mysticism, Hitler and Himmler came up with, that served the Nazi's killing machine so well.

I'm fascinated, now, by the writings of people who were there, and knew each other. Asher Ginsberg AKA Ahad Ha'am is devastating in how well he describes the callousness Zionists treat others with - that allows them to slaughter people by the thousands without an iota of compassion - going all the way back to the 1890s. He makes every utterance of an "unprovoked attack" - even on a civilian population - completely laughable.; 11/24/23, 6:07 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Eva Marie said...

"I wonder if this is true of all descendants of former slaves?"

I don't know. I don't think so, because Asher Ginsberg definitely had HIS head on right. And, whatever their obvious flaws - and they had them, believe me - I see a HUGE qualitative difference between MLK and Malcolm X compared to mass murderers like Theodor Herzl, Ben Grunion, or Bibi Netanyahu.; 11/24/23, 6:17 AM
Leland said...: Remember Kevin McCarthy's unapproved impeachment inquiry?

When you lead with a question like that, then I suspect the rest of the article is batshit crazy too. Hint, Congress doesn't need the President's approval.

Reminder to those that believe fake letters; George W. Bush wasn't AWOL and Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't Russian Disinformation. The Steele Dossier was written based on the ramblings of two Russian drunks at a bar.; 11/24/23, 6:24 AM
Old and slow said...: That quote from Churchill, perhaps it isn't as damning as you seem to think.; 11/24/23, 6:30 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Old and slow said...

"That quote from Churchill, perhaps it isn't as damning as you seem to think."

Not to your sense of ethics (whatever they may be, if they exist at all) but - coupled with Herzl saying "antisemites WILL BECOME our most loyal friends, the antisemites nations will become our allies" - it's damning enough AND explains, both, what's been going on politically AND your never-ending loyalty as they murder thousands, something even your sick ass wouldn't allow here, but you cheer like a chickenhawk from home.

Antisemitism, racism, colonialism, white supremacy - all that repugnant shit you also don't find as damning as most seem to think - THAT'S What we're dealing with, as Zionism, and that's why they've needed a "narrative" of lies to hide it.; 11/24/23, 8:06 AM
planetgeo said...: Looks like the only racist person on this blog is the one who keeps droning on about racism in just about every thread and calling everyone who disagrees with him a racist.; 11/24/23, 8:24 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: The Squad should step up and be Freedom Fighters for Hamas. also - hostage exchange.; 11/24/23, 8:34 AM
Mike of Snoqualmie said...: Blogger Sydney said...
Saw Napoleon tonight. Worse portrayal of the man ever. The battle of Waterloo scenes were well done, but the others were just gore.

11/23/23, 10:06 PM

There's a silent movie (1927) about Napoleon. Excellent.; 11/24/23, 8:49 AM
Old and slow said...: Colonialism was a net benefit for most colonized people. It was also inevitable. Wishing and shouting don't change the nature of reality.; 11/24/23, 8:57 AM
Mike of Snoqualmie said...: So much for global warming and the disappearance of snow and ice.

Al Gore and Traitor Joe Biden are crying tears. Boo hoo!; 11/24/23, 8:59 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: planetgeo,

Attacking a person, instead of his content, shows your argument has no substance or defense.; 11/24/23, 9:11 AM
Eva Marie said...: Asher Ginsberg writes: “ as always happens to former slaves.”
That’s either a true or false statement. If it’s false, then the conclusions he draws from that assertion are also false.; 11/24/23, 9:40 AM
Narr said...: The more see (and hear) of the Napoleon epic, the more I think I'll skip it.

Not least, what's with the accent? I don't know how to convey the fact that he spoke French with a Corsican accent to anglophone audiences in a movie, but whatever Phoenix is doing just sounds bizarre.

That's just the micro level. The big scenes--if they are meant to be what they appear in the ads--look pretty off the mark too.; 11/24/23, 9:58 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Eva Marie said...

"Asher Ginsberg writes: “ as always happens to former slaves.”

That’s either a true or false statement. If it’s false, then the conclusions he draws from that assertion are also false."

That's so extreme, and un-nuanced, it's obviously not true. Just because you can't think of other options doesn't mean there aren't other options. It's like when Bari Weiss, and others, say anti-Zionism equals wanting to commit genocide on the Jews, knowing all Jews ain't Zionists, and Israel can easily cease to exist in it's current form, I.E. a real democracy that's not the kind of place that does to them what they've done to others.; 11/24/23, 10:31 AM
jaydub said...: Interesting comment by Crack at 9:11 dressing down Planetgeo for attacking him rather than his arguments. Apparently, Crack has already forgot about his own ad hominem attack on Old and Slow at 8:06.

Remarkable how things change in Crack's mind over a period of 1 hour and five minutes.; 11/24/23, 10:33 AM
Mike of Snoqualmie said...: Joe Biden's pronouns: Trai/tor.; 11/24/23, 10:44 AM
Narr said...: Thanksgiving was great, but I just realized that the month of tortured eardrums has only begun. Our NPR station is fond of lush, overblown renditions of seasonal classics.

Bah and humbug.; 11/24/23, 12:20 PM
Leland said...: gadfly, do you believe US healthcare premiums fell 34% year over year in October? Do you think the American people believe what Biden's BLS just reported?; 11/24/23, 12:24 PM
planetgeo said...: Crack, why would you immediately jump to the conclusion I was referring to you?

And if you actually believe what you just wrote why would you attack me as a racist (twice) simply because you disagree with my content? Doesn't that show YOUR argument had no substance or defense?; 11/24/23, 1:08 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: jaydub said...

"Remarkable how things change in Crack's mind over a period of 1 hour and five minutes."

At this point, Old and slow and I have a history. He's approaching contemptible. I don't think I've ever interacted with Planetgeo before, so, yeah: bad start. But it's not a change of mind, so much as asking Planetgeo if they wanna start there?

Remarkable how quickly you'd try to portray me for a hypocrite, too, when I've done nothing to you. Duly noted. I know your type.; 11/24/23, 1:58 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: planetgeo said...

"Crack, why would you immediately jump to the conclusion I was referring to you?"

Unless you're new here, that's a stupid question, and I ain't playing "gotcha"; 11/24/23, 2:01 PM
Eva Marie said...: The Crack Emcee said...
“That's so extreme, and un-nuanced, it's obviously not true.”
That’s exactly my point. I was quoting your source who, in the passage you offered wrote: “as always happens to former slaves.”
Here’s the larger passage:
“This sudden change has planted despotic tendencies in their hearts, as always happens to former slaves [–eved ki yimlokh – when a slave becomes king – Proverbs 30:22].”
Your argument is with the man you quoted, not with me.
In response to me, you write: “That's so extreme, and un-nuanced, it's obviously not true. Just because you can't think of other options doesn't mean there aren't other options.”
I agree. Everything you quoted by Asher Ginsberg is “extreme and in-nuanced.”; 11/24/23, 2:05 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: Buried deep in the Politico article Biden admin officials see proof their strategy is working in hostage deal:

"There was some concern in the administration about an unintended consequence of the pause: that it would allow journalists broader access to Gaza and the opportunity to further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel."

I read that to say, Biden's let the killing go on, to hide how much killing the Zionists had already been doing prior to Oct. 7.; 11/24/23, 2:13 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: CHALLENGE YOURSELVES: Historian Tareq Baconi on the Origins, Goals and Future of Hamas | Amanpour and Company

U.S. Marine Makes Undeniable Case For Hamas!

Norman Finkelstein tells Piers Morgan "people of Gaza have the right to hate Israel"; 11/24/23, 2:30 PM
Old and slow said...: Well, planetgeo, it was pretty self evident who you must be referring to. Wasn't it? Most of us here don't call others racists. We use the more colloquial term: assholes.; 11/24/23, 3:43 PM
Old and slow said...: I'm "approaching contemptible" am I? Fair enough. I've certainly nothing but contempt and pity for you.; 11/24/23, 3:56 PM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Hey... What is under the Dome of the Rock?
Clue #1, 1000 BCE.; 11/24/23, 7:11 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: Eva Marie said...
The Crack Emcee said...
“That's so extreme, and un-nuanced, it's obviously not true.”
That’s exactly my point.

No, you're misreading my post.; 11/24/23, 11:22 PM