Althouse: At the Monday Night Café...

October 23, 2023

At the Monday Night Café...

... you can talk about whatever you want.

39 comments:

Mutaman said...: Trump just talked up Budapest strongman Viktor Orbán as ‘the leader of Turkey’.
He also said he would prevent immigrants “who don’t like our religion” from entering the U.S. He also discovered that "U.S. = us".

Some beginning to think that Trump is setting up a dementia defense for his upcoming trials- See The Gipper, Vinnie The Chin, and Uncle Junior.; 10/23/23, 6:59 PM
gadfly said...: Trump never lies. He just tells unfunny jokes to the stupid media. Or not.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-bizarrely-declares-i-was-never-indicted-after-being-indicted-four-times/; 10/23/23, 7:12 PM
Fandor said...: With everything that has gone down over the past eight years WHY would anyone support...name it...; 10/23/23, 7:27 PM
rcocean said...: When are those trees in the back going to get with the program? Its october buddy, not June.; 10/23/23, 7:40 PM
Original Mike said...: Even the Germans and Swiss have had enough.. While in our country, Biden's uncontrolled invasion policies continue apace.; 10/23/23, 7:41 PM
Gusty Winds said...: It's a heartbreaking fall this year. Still beautiful though in SE Wisconsin.

Remember 2017 and 2018, when the economy was good. Everyone was working. Interest rates were low. There were NO NEW WARS.

All you had to put up with was liberal lies and Trump derangement syndrome. Now, putting up with their bullshit seems like such a small price to pay compared to the price everyone is paying now.

If somehow, Trump wins in 2024...and liberals freak out...think I'll just ignore them...; 10/23/23, 7:50 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: I went to see "Killers of the Flower Moon" yesterday. And today I discovered the lead's Hamartia.

Webster: Hamartia arose from the Greek verb hamartanein, meaning "to miss the mark" or "to err." Aristotle introduced the term in the Poetics to describe the error of judgment which ultimately brings about the tragic hero's downfall. As you can imagine, the word is most often found in literary criticism.

I probably shouldn't say any more lest i go and spoil it. Other than be prepared to sit for over 3 and half hours.; 10/23/23, 8:41 PM
Deep State Reformer said...: Okay Gusty W. (@19:50) but please understand that they won't ignore you. Ever.; 10/23/23, 9:01 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: Tucker Carlson's show was sobering.; 10/23/23, 9:06 PM
Beaneater said...: It's time for Beaneater's language peeves. I've grown accustomed and almost resigned to many things, like free reign and all of the there/their/they're confusion. But three things have been driving me nuts recently.

#3: Diffuse a situation instead of defuse a situation
#2: Villainize instead of vilify
#1: Feel badly instead of feel bad. When you eat a bad oyster or 48, you don't feel nauseously, you feel nauseous. When you achieve a goal, you don't feel happily, you feel happy. And when your kid doesn't make the football team, you don't feel badly, you feel bad.

More to come as I find more things annoying.; 10/23/23, 9:17 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: YouTube: How far is too far?

10 min clip of Douglas Murray speech in support of Israel.; 10/23/23, 10:27 PM
wildswan said...: If you have been following the Ukraine war you can understand the difficulty Israel faces in Gaza City. The Ukraine war showed that tanks can be defeated by drones + distant artillery or by snipers with anti-tank weapons in hi-rises. Tanks can't just drive in over all obstacles either - that's what has been slowing down the Ukrainian counter-offensive. War has changed. Moving forward against the wide minefield in the southern Ukraine battlefield is a matter of clearing traps and mines and belts of obstacles which must be done by infantry, special squads and tanks working in small units. And it just seems to me that the tunnels under Gaza City are another version of the south Ukraine minefield. But the Ukraine figured out the problem and, while we were looking at Israel, it moved forward steadily. Ukraine was not stalemated; it just couldn't move fast in the new reality of this kind of war. Ukraine has now reached the point at which its missiles can reach the last railroad supplying Crimea and the southern Russian invading army. Russia has a problem.
I am confident that Israel has been working on the tunnel/new war problem. I think that, like the Ukraine, the IDF doesn't explain its strategy in the media because that just tells the enemy what to do and where to go. But the IDF is working out tactics appropriate to the tunnels.
Meanwhile, I think the enemy showed its overall strategy, first, in the Ukraine - several axes of advance so as to create a feeling of being surrounded. Similarly, in Israel there's Hezbollah, the West Bank and Gaza. They'll all advance and try to make people think Israel is to blame for the new fronts. No, several fronts is the plan - in the Ukraine, in Israel and, let's face it, in the US geopolitical problem.; 10/23/23, 11:11 PM
Mutaman said...: Gusty Winds said...

" Remember 2017 and 2018, when the economy was good. Everyone was working. Interest rates were low. There were NO NEW WARS.'

Remember 2020 when you couldn't go out of your house and the Commander in Chief told us to shoot up horse dewormer?; 10/23/23, 11:50 PM
Mutaman said...: The Crack Emcee said...

"Tucker Carlson's show was sobering."

Tucker who?; 10/23/23, 11:50 PM
gadfly said...: A simple solution to the House Speaker vacancy is virtually one-sided and instantaneous. Hakeem Jeffries should propose that if a single Republican casts a floor vote for Liz Cheney for Speaker, the House Minority Leader will deliver 212 Dem votes in favor of Cheney. Five GOP votes and the deal is done with no shared leadership required on the part of the majority GOP during the current session of Congress.; 10/24/23, 2:39 AM
gadfly said...: Mutaman said...
Trump just talked up Budapest strongman Viktor Orbán as ‘the leader of Turkey’.

So Trump is Hungary for some Turkey.; 10/24/23, 2:44 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: There's a reason why America identifies with Israel; 10/24/23, 4:03 AM
wendybar said...: If the election was so free, fair and legitimate why arrest people for protesting and questioning it?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/popular-conservative-reporter-owen-shroyer-releases-video-twitter/; 10/24/23, 4:38 AM
wendybar said...: "If Obama-Biden healthcare policies are so good, why do costs keep rising?"

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/10/time_to_get_rid_of_obamacare.html; 10/24/23, 4:44 AM
wendybar said...: Remember 2020 when you couldn't go out of your house and the Commander in Chief told us to shoot up horse dewormer?

10/23/23, 11:50 PM

PROOF that propaganda works....; 10/24/23, 4:45 AM
wendybar said...: "Mitt Romney voted to impeach President Trump for a phone call in which the president encouraged Ukraine to investigate allegations of serious corruption—coincidentally involving the Biden crime family—but according to a new book, the failed politician admits he had no idea what Burisma was when he voted to impeach a duly-elected president for calling on foreign governments to investigate alleged criminality.

That is extreme ignorance (not to mention dangerous) when a senator is willing to impeach a president just because he doesn’t like him, all without knowing the facts.

They seek to destroy Trump because he was an outsider trying to transfer the power, money, and freedom back to the people as fast as he could, and establishment Republicans, like Democrats, want to keep the power and wealth that they have wrested away from the American people."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/10/mitt_romney_confesses_he_didnt_know_anything_about_burisma_when_he_voted_to_impeach_president_trump.html

Just like a typical progressive politician.; 10/24/23, 4:50 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: Lem the misspeller said...
YouTube: How far is too far?

That's easy: When you take somebody's land.; 10/24/23, 5:09 AM
Humperdink said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 10/24/23, 5:36 AM
Humperdink said...: Think Mutaman is alone in his thinking? In spite of a mountain of evidence to the contrary (Fen's Law), the Commie-Pinko left thinks the US is on the voyage of a lifetime.

Brings to mind when the Titanic set sail from Southampton. Everything was going swimmingly *cough* until the iceberg was hit. Lo and behold, not enough life boats. Down goes the boat. And it won't be women and children first. Not in this day and age.; 10/24/23, 6:32 AM
Big Mike said...: A few days ago Althouse put up a post about Trump complaining that Arab terrorists were crossing into the US via the southern border. This was seen, in some quarters, as a sign that Orangeman had lost it. Except we’ve just this morning learned that US Customs and Border Patrol issued a warning to its officers that they “may” encounter Hamas and Hezbollah fighters at the southern border. So far this year they’ve captured 169 people on the terrorist watch list at the southern border. Remember, these are just terrorists we know enough about to have on the watch list, and the ones that didn’t get away. How many get through for each one that gets caught?

This guy Trump appears to know what he’s talking about.; 10/24/23, 6:50 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Came across this yesterday...

https://neveryetmelted.com/2017/04/05/althouse-is-the-closest-thing-on-the-internet-to-dorothy-parker/; 10/24/23, 6:52 AM
iowan2 said...: : How far is too far?

That's easy: When you take somebody's land.

That's going to time to correct 10,000 years of history. Humans came out of Africa. All the rest is 'taken' geography.; 10/24/23, 6:55 AM
Big Mike said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 10/24/23, 6:56 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/10/the_two_big_myths_about_the_middle_east.html; 10/24/23, 6:57 AM
Big Mike said...: @Crack, after the US Civil War the federal government took land from white former slave owners and gave it to freed slaves. Applying your same logic, Southerners were justified in instituting the KKK, just as the Palestinians instituted Hamas, and in using terror as a weapon.; 10/24/23, 6:58 AM
Jamie said...: Lem the misspeller said...
YouTube: How far is too far?

That's easy: When you take somebody's land.

Back to my question of last week: what "provocation" would make you kill someone else's babies? Apparently for Palestinians the answer is losing your land to the Israelis in wartime because they won and you listened to the Muslim Arab nations that told you to leave for a bit so they could annihilate the Jews.

Even more so: what would make you put your own children in front of your own side's guns? Apparently for Palestinians the answer is the same.

Maybe they think the Israelis will rape their daughters and force them to watch - I'm sure they're being told that. The question is, when they know literally no one to whom that's ever happened, why do they continue to believe it? What do they know from their own experience? They know that the IDF sends warnings of attacks and tells civilians which direction to go to escape... and Hamas build roadblocks to keep them from escaping. They know that their water and power are provided almost entirely by Jews whom Hamas claims are "genocidal" against them (if they didn't know this, if instead they were being told that Hamas provided these things, then what they would "know" instead is that Hamas cut them off). Many of them probably know family or friends who stayed in Israel and have prospered there by any meaningful comparison to life in Gaza. They know that none of their supposed Muslim Arab brothers will take them in. Surely some of them must have tumbled to the fact that their own side is using them and has always been using them.

Of course, if the link above about why Americans identify with Jews is what I think it is, I'd say that realization hasn't percolated far enough through American society either.; 10/24/23, 7:57 AM
planetgeo said...: Beaneater, I feel your pain regarding language peeves. When it comes to malapropisms some people are just born too loose. Especially that Lautrec guy.; 10/24/23, 8:01 AM
MadTownGuy said...: wendybar said...

[Quoting Mutaman]
"Remember 2020 when you couldn't go out of your house and the Commander in Chief told us to shoot up horse dewormer?"

Said wendybar:
"PROOF that propaganda works...."

I don't see it as propaganda working on Mutaman, so much as Mutaman hoping we won't see the falsehoods in the statements.

Mutaman: the lockdowns were instituted by Democratic regimes, not by Trump, and in hindsight they were ineffectual.

Nobody, least of all Donald Trump. Was telling us to "shoot up horse dewormer." Ivermectin for people is taken by an oral route, & is a different dosage & formulation. Its developers were awarded a Nobel Prize for its use as an antiparasitic. It has since been shown to be effective in reducing mortality rates, even in people with comorbidities, with regard to COVID-19. I'm not buying what you're selling.; 10/24/23, 8:15 AM
Rusty said...: Big Mike said...
"@Crack, after the US Civil War the federal government took land from white former slave owners and gave it to freed slaves. Applying your same logic, Southerners were justified in instituting the KKK, just as the Palestinians instituted Hamas, and using terror as a weapon."
It should have dawned on you by now that logic doesn't enter into this debate.; 10/24/23, 8:22 AM
Mrs. X said...: Beaneater, I don’t think you feel nauseous, you feel nauseated. Nauseous means people look at you and want to throw up—a nauseous shade of green, e.g.; 10/24/23, 8:34 AM
Humperdink said...: Crack: "That's easy: When you take somebody's land."

Whose land are you on my friend?; 10/24/23, 8:35 AM
West TX Intermediate Crude said...: Maybe even Crack can agree that the true enemy of the Palestinian people is not Israel.
It is Hamas.
I think the Israelis are missing an opportunity by not proclaiming that fact far and wide.; 10/24/23, 8:55 AM
Big Mike said...: @Rusty, I’m not trying to convince Crack — or rcocean for that matter. I’m trying to convince people who might otherwise be swayed by their specious arguments.; 10/24/23, 9:33 AM
Beaneater said...: Mrs. X, you may well be right. But I hope you agree that one certainly doesn't feel nauseatedly.; 10/24/23, 12:02 PM