From the comments over there: "It should have been made available 50 years ago and should be as cheap as a bottle of generic aspirin. Let's get on with it and make it affordable."
July 13, 2023
"... especially useful for young women, teenagers and those who have difficulty dealing with the time, costs or logistical hurdles involved in visiting a doctor to obtain a prescription."
From "F.D.A. Approves First U.S. Over-the-Counter Birth Control Pill/The move could significantly expand access to contraception. The pill is expected to be available in early 2024" (NYT).
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I have to agree with the commenter. One does have to take into account that the hormone dosage nowadays is much much less than it was 50 years ago. The pill was much more dangerous in the 60s. That being said, it should have been done decades ago.
Caveat emptor taking a drug that has misunderstood mood altering effects to the point where it may affect a woman's choice of a boyfriend or husband. Then she goes off the drug and feels differently.
Caveat emptor taking a drug that has misunderstood mood altering effects to the point where it may affect a woman's choice of a boyfriend or husband. Then she goes off the drug and feels differently.
Now do ivermectin.
The pro-infanticide lobby has fought to suppress OTC birth control for over sixty years. Evidently, some find the power to kill very alluring.
Let’s make those those pussies available to older men while we are at it. If they can change their gender with surgery and drugs and have abortions, it’s a short walk to freedom of choice who to fuck.
The Libertarian in me approves of this move. Now, do Ivermectin.
The rise of birth control and abortion coincided with the rise in unplanned or ill-planned births. Isn't that amazing?
"It should have been made available 50 years ago and should be as cheap as a bottle of generic aspirin. Let's get on with it and make it affordable."
Amen. A huge, if long-term, win for conservatism. Reduces the ideological pull of abortion, lessens dependency on the State, minimizes Prog reproduction. In a generation we should see another big drop in crime similar to the one provided by Roe.
Scott Adams swears that being on the pill changes the woman's personality.
Also the kind of man they prefer, from alpha male to beta male.
Divorce rate explanation? The Pill started in the early 60s as I recall.
No teenager should be taking birth control, unless for a serious medical issue, and that absolutely should require a prescription.
Birth control isn't aspirin, no matter how much the hedonists claim that it is.
I bet they are safe and effective.
Planned Parenthood hardest hit.
Any discussion in the article/comments about the negative health impacts women have reported being on the pill?
There's certainly an argument for limiting use of contraceptives and making the parent the responsible party, but I think it's fair to say that in the USA in particular and among western populations in general, most of the population approves or at least accepts 1. society-wide access to at least some forms of birth control, both pre-sex and for use immediately after and 2. allowing minors to purchase the same on their own.
Once you've accepted that point, it's best to just make is as readily available as you can to the demographics most likely to need it. So while I disagree with the poster's logic that boils down to 'this thing I want should be cheap and easy because I want it,' I do agree with the result.
At this stage, barriers to purchasing over-the-counter are the same sort of hapless fighting retreat as states that say ok you can buy alchohol on Sunday but only at some of the places that sell alchohol during the week and only after noon.
What will the left cry when the inevitable demographic collapse happens?
“Affordable”
Seriously everyone can afford birth control.
The top comment sounds ignorant.
What could go wrong? How about this.
Are in the first month of breastfeeding or first few weeks after giving birth.
Are older than 35 and smoke.
Have poorly controlled high blood pressure.
Have a history of or current blood clots, including in your legs — called deep vein thrombosis — or in your lungs — called pulmonary embolism.
Have a history of stroke or heart disease.
Have a history of breast cancer.
Have migraine with aura.
Have diabetes-related complications, such as kidney disease, eye disease or problems with nerve function.
Have certain liver and gallbladder diseases.
Have unexplained uterine bleeding.
Will be confined to bed for an extended period of time after surgery or an injury or during a serious illness.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/combination-birth-control-pills/about/pac-20385282
Dispensing powerful hormones, which disrupt the bodies natural and healthy function, without medical supervision. And making it far easier to get into the hands (and bodies) of kids, perhaps surreptitiously. What could go wrong?
Ideology wins over science and commonsense once again.
If I hadn't been under a doctor's care when I tried the pill I wouldn't have known it was damaging my liver. These are hormones, and their effects vary with different women.
Make the pill otc, but don't talk of it like it's a gummy vitamin C. And don't be so blasé about aspirin.
I'd call it Griswold.
Has anyone studied the effects of hormones in women's urine from birth control pills on the environment? Could that be having effect on dropping fertility?
If it's an Irish company you'd expect a rash of Irish twins, correlationwise.
I would question whether those who lack the competence at the tasks of daily life to obtain and fill a medical prescription are ready for sexual activity, although I guess the counter argument is that they definitely aren't ready for parenthood.
I prescribe it to teens multiple times a day. All they have to do is ask-I take a history and make sure they don’t have any risk factors and send in a script. The problem with it being otc is that no one is assessing risk factors. And do we give them low medium or high potency estrogen? What happens if there’s breakthrough bleeding? All birth control pills are not the same. Now we’re asking teens and or their parents to make decisions on dosing with no information.
what about sexually active MEN? WHY WEREN'T MEN MENTIONED???
MEN NEED BIRTHCONTROLL PILLS TOO! do you think ONLY WOMEN can get Pregnant? TRANSPHOBE
now that i've made my snarky remark..
a Serious Questions: HOW LONG, before the 1st medical problem from these OTC pills?
will we EVER hear about it?
Hmmm... This might take a bite out of the
revenue stream of the PP's abortion mill business operations. Only silver lining I could find tbh.
I wonder if it had been made cheap and easily accessible 50 years ago, would we have seen so many different versions of it? Or basically one, the same one that was developed 50 years ago.
The Republicans in Congress have been trying to do this for years. Apparently, Planned Parenthood makes enough revenue off the BCP product that the Democrats protected their grift for years.
I can’t understand this cavalier attitude toward hormone altering medication. It’s not nothing. I’ve taken bc for years, with various side effects. I no longer take them, as a result of blood clots, leading to pulmonary embolism. I get the desire for easy contraception, but the health of women is greater than just not getting pregnant. Claiming it to be the equivalent of tylenol is irresponsible.
Cool, just what our environment needs - more free-roaming female hormones polluting our waterways and bodies.
Back before the popes got all squishy, the Church banned contraception on the same grounds as abortion: preventing a human life = ending a human life = murder. The Church has changed its mind, but I’m not sure God follows the polls that closely. I suspect He’s telling Satan to get busy constructing more accommodations in Hell. Of course, 20% of all conceptions end in spontaneous abortion anyway, but that’s no excuse—“Abortion, like vengeance, is Mine!”, saith the Lord.
"Let's get on with it and make it affordable."
Affordable? Absolutely. More money for tats. You can never have enough, amirite?
Au contraire; powerful hormonal treatments should really be carried out under a doctor's supervision.
On the other hand, if they just routinely hand them out like candy anyway...
Republicans in Congress have supported this for years and have always been thwarted by Democrats. I wonder what prompted this decision by the FDA?
A close friend's mom died of a blood clot from birth control pills - a young mom of 2.
Granted that was in the 60's when dosages were a lot higher. But this is NOT like Tylenol.
Access to medical care (checkups, blood work etc) is IMPORTANT. A workaround to allow easy access and no ongoing medical care is sending the wrong message. But then maybe that is where we are headed - maybe ultimately the cross gender hormones will be OTC, puberty blockers etc. Maybe you can do DIY chemo. I've seen DIY minor surgery videos on YouTube.
What could go wrong?
It isn't without risks but, yes, it should have been OTC long before now.
This is an idiotic idea. These are powerful drugs and can have bad side effects if improperly dosed among other things. These are once and done medications but daily meds for an indefinite period of time and should have medical supervision. I wonder how many woman will be injured due to this.
Aspirin would never be approved today, it causes stomach bleeding. Or so I have read.
Let's make any non-followup medication OTC. If the doc doesn't need to check for liver enzyme malfunction or something similarly serious, take the drug and come back if and only if problem persists. Tort lawyers can be barred from suits, scream though they will.
What a tragedy for Planned Parenthood. No more fetuses for sale. If teens can be proactive there are no postactive profits.
Oh, the humanity.
"... especially useful for young women ..."
Wait a fricking second! What about all those young men ("assigned female at birth"), who might be at risk for pregnancy? The NYT must be transphobic, as shown by their not recognizing the significance of this decision to those young men! Not inclusive at all!
I don't see a big drop in prole criminal activity bc of this drug to be honest. Mass immigration and relaxed drug enforcement will make up any shortfall in prole birthrates.
All the women in my life did/do yearly gynecological examinations. Three have caught pre cancerous conditions.
Since listening to left howl about women being denied reproductive care, for the last year and half, now telling me they cant be bothered to get yearly checkups, to assure their own health
This is a massive logical disconnect. Its almost like the left just spews talking points that aren't true.
It takes a Supreme Court decision to make the DDA do its job.
I've heard an army of Karens have resisted this in the past because if it's OTC they'll have to buy it directly from the drug store and not have it paid by their insurance. Their convenience mattering the most, more than the lives of less fortunate women.
The birth control just approved otc is progestin-only so blood clots are not a concern like with the estrogen-progestin combinations. Of course, this may be the first of many.
Many otc medications were once prescription and probably never needed to be. Many more should be.
There are risks with all medications, even otc. Tylenol is toxic to the liver. Ibuprofen, naproxen, and aspirin can cause stomach bleeding, damage the kidneys, and increase the risk of heart attack and stroke. New studies deemed the risk of stomach bleeding with *low-dose* aspirin too high to justify the recommended use for primary prevention.
There's no SAFE drug. It's all a matter of risks vs benefits. I hope this development can become part of a wider discussion and evaluation of medications and accessibility.
Just a reminder: the pill, either taken regularly or as morning after, has never been proven to prevent fertilization of an egg, the definition of life according to many religions. In some cases, it may prevent fertilization by changing the environment of the reproductive organs; in other cases it may prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in the womb, which is the technical definition of pregnancy but also merely a legal term.
So women on the pill or using it the morning after may be aborting numerous fertilized eggs over the entire time they take the pill without even knowing it, because doctors are trained to avoid this conversation.
Yet even though they know this, Guttmacher, Planned Parenthood and countless physicians have either lied in legislative testimony that the pill prevents pregnancy or told their patients the same untruth.
And unwitting women who believe in life at conception, not implantation, are being lied to in ways that may lead to mortal sin.
Trust all women?
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