Said Ken Setiawan, a senior lecturer in Indonesian Studies at the University of Melbourne, "Indonesia’s sex ‘morality’ laws are just one part of a broader, chilling crackdown on dissent/Analysis: the moralistic aspects of the new criminal code risk obscuring wider concerns about a stifling of protest and criticism of the state" (The Guardian).
“When something is grey, or slippery, or nebulous,” said Eve Warburton, the director of Australia National University’s Indonesia Institute, it makes it difficult to know how an individual’s behaviour will be interpreted or where the boundaries are. “And I think that is precisely the point.”
“Laws that criminalise political dissent or criminalise critiquing heads of state or government don’t have to be used in a systematic way, they can be used in a very ad-hoc, unpredictable way,” Warburton said. “The effect is the same: it intimidates opponents, it chills dissent, because it increases the risk of being thrown in prison for your political opinions.”
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Sounds like America.
Not said in the headline: Indonesia is 87% Islamic
https://www.learnreligions.com/religion-in-indonesia-4588353
(Insert standard comments about the media and partisan double standard of showing tolerance for harsh Islamic practices while simultaneously branding milder Christian practices as offensive, hurtful, and unacceptable.)
In the news today: Restaurant in Richmond, VA refused to seat a Christian group because LGBTQ and female staff felt "unsafe."
https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/richmond/local-restaurant-refuses-service-to-conservative-advocacy-group/
In Indonesian we call it pasal karet, which means ‘rubber clauses’.
In contract law, there are weasel words.
In America, you don't need rubber laws. All you need is to be doctrinaire leftwing, and no laws apply.
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conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
I’ll take WORLDWIDE EVIDENCE OF PROGRESSIVES SOWING CHAOS for 500, Alex*
*It’ll always be Alex in this meme despite the new chick doing a fine job on Jeopardy!
When you say it sounds like America you sound like you are speaking with a Russian artificial intelligence bot and stuck up your tailpipe.
You Trump cucks hate America. America is great right now and gets greater every day. Just look at the foreign investment capital and human capital flooding over the borders. It's time to burn the blue dresses, Nancyboys. Daddy is tapped out and don't have no more love juice for you.
“Laws that criminalise political dissent or criminalise critiquing heads of state or government don’t have to be used in a systematic way, they can be used in a very ad-hoc, unpredictable way,”
Good thing we don't have to worry about any of that here in the good ole US of A.
Interesting, Howard has taken to parodying himself.
Law is code. Code is written to be objective, to apply to any instance within the defined range: “For any X between 1 and 100, if X happens then do Y.”
Code like that is a tool that lets people plan their lives and cooperate. The game has rules you can trust within declared boundaries.
When you screw with the code, creating too many special cases or overwriting the definition of X with some X’ or X’’ that you can reinterpret as you please, it gets unpredictable. Conveniently so for grifters and tyrants. You can’t trust it, so you don’t invest in big plans or bold ideas. Things start to go to hell.
We are seeing a lot of that these days, in fact it’s embedded in the reality offered by social engineers who demand that everyone abandon any pretense of objectivity and resort to identity politics. My “lived experience” as a trans alien whatever entitles me to special treatment under private law. Chaos ensues: which is what the Marxists want.
Complaining about the vagueness of the law seems to me to miss the much more objectionable point that political opponents are being jailed for being political opponents.
Now do the US and the January 6th protesters. The US has lost all credibility on these sorts of issues- we now have explicit political prisoners.
It is hilarious watching Howard melt down over the shitshow he obviously voted for.
I think that's what the United States so unique.
Here the constitution defines govt power, and its limits. Not what people can, or cannot do. But if the govt has the power to act against you.
Works great until the Police and judges collude to ignore govt's enumerated powers.
Like we learned that Rudy Gulliani was being spied on ever since he signed on as Trump's Lawyer.
Just more abuse of power by the DoJ that will never see a court room.
Indonesia is a great source of rubber. I think that's what the Japanese were after in WWII.
Is it a coincidence Altho chose this story on the same day Republicans insist that a vaguely worded amendment called JCPA be stripped out of the annual Defense Appropriations bill. No I think it’s a purposeful drudgetaposition by Altho because like the Indonesian laws at issue the JCPA was also worded ambiguously to the point PowerLine blog called it a “Rube Goldberg” scheme to waive antitrust laws so that Media conglomerates could “negotiate” with Big Tech. Vague rubber laws are in vogue apparently.
It is hilarious watching Howard melt down
To me it appears to be flame-throwing in pursuit of riling up Trump fanboys but so few actually exist his takes just kinda look chaotic, like a jargon salad with contempt dressing. I felt sorry for Howard laying such a weak take out like that. Do better. Be best man!
How about this? riot and burn down buildings--no punishment. Demonstrate OUTSIDE the capitol building (remember, 900 have been arrested when only 50 went in) and go to jail. Defy a congressional supoena (Manafort) and go to jail vs ignore them and nothing happens (every dem ever). Make a scientifically true statement ("no one can change their sex") and lose your job. We ARE Indonesia.
The malleability of ethical laws forward, foreward of a progressive path and grade. #HateLovesAbortion
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