Althouse: Well, what would you wear under the circumstances?

November 12, 2022

Well, what would you wear under the circumstances?

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58 comments:

Saint Croix said...: pants; 11/12/22, 9:44 AM
Kate said...: It is traditional to try to not outshine the bride-to-be, and I assume Ivanka knew ahead of time what Tiffany would wear. Tiffany's dress is unflattering, which is unfortunate. Meow. Ivanka would've been raked by social media regardless, though.; 11/12/22, 9:46 AM
Leland said...: The only thing I get out of the post is a hate for Ivanka Trump. It is a rehearsal. I’ve known brides that have shown up to such things in sweats.; 11/12/22, 9:46 AM
CWJ said...: I suspect that with a twitter handle like Anti Fa Ivanka could substitute a score of different dresses but the text would remain the same.; 11/12/22, 9:46 AM
Bob Boyd said...: Well, what would you wear under the circumstances?

I'd wear my Speedos and a filthy bathrobe...out of love.; 11/12/22, 9:47 AM
Yancey Ward said...: LOL. More TDS.; 11/12/22, 9:51 AM
Joe Smith said...: Barbara Eden wore it better...; 11/12/22, 9:52 AM
JPS said...: I don't have strong feelings about Ivanka Trump one way or the other, but it's interesting to me how little we've heard of Tiffany since her father declared his candidacy. I don't know if she has avoided the limelight on purpose, but good for her if she has.; 11/12/22, 9:55 AM
tim maguire said...: Start with the condemnation and work backwards to a justification.; 11/12/22, 10:01 AM
Kevin said...: Lt. Lockhart : [reading] ... we have a new directive from A.O.C. on this. In the future, in place of "shame women for being on OnlyFans," substitute the phrase "shame women for their fashion choices." Got it?

Private Joker : Got it. Very catchy.; 11/12/22, 10:03 AM
wendybar said...: This is all they have?? Let's talk about how the clown Rosa Delauro dresses everyday in Congress, or the way Fetterman dresses everyday. People need to get help for their TDS, because it is ALL they think about.; 11/12/22, 10:08 AM
Michael K said...: Ivanaka hate will not end. Even if her father dies it will continue. The left has its obsessions. Hugh Hewitt used to have a standard question for new interviews with reporters. He would ask them "Was Alger Hiss a Soviet spy?" I was listening one day when the reporter hung up after that question. Leftists never forget their obsessions. Like that movie about Dan Rather. It was called "Truth" and about his lie about Bush.; 11/12/22, 10:10 AM
Narr said...: I just got here and already I'm confused.

Prof, who is the she who doesn't need saving, and who is the you?

Feminism has advanced us from Good Old Boys, but replaced them with Mean Old Girls.; 11/12/22, 10:24 AM
CHMCM said...: Typically, Ivanka looks lovely. I did not like this outfit. I do not think it signifies anything about the relationship between the sisters.; 11/12/22, 10:27 AM
Saint Croix said...: I don't have strong feelings about Ivanka Trump one way or the other

dude

wow

how do you not have strong feeling about Ivanka!

Princess Ivanka

Queen Ivanka

Look at this softball shit

ABC is terrified of Ivanka!

My mom, who is a passionate devotee of the January 6 trial, loves Ivanka. We all love Ivanka. In fact, this is going to be my strategy for peace at our Thanksgiving dinner. Change the subject to Ivanka!

ha ha ha

"His daughter sure is normal."

also

"The kids are all right."; 11/12/22, 10:28 AM
Gypsy Jenni said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 11/12/22, 10:31 AM
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Earnest Prole said...: It’s a rehearsal dinner, not a wedding.

The real question is why frog legs enjoy the sensation of being shocked.; 11/12/22, 10:41 AM
Gahrie said...: She doesn't need you to save her and the belief that she does is insulting.

What comment provoked this? I don't see anyone trying to save her, just people expressing support for someone who has long suffered from attacks for no other reason than the identity of her father. The most awful part is the fact that both her and her father were feted by these very same people before they became a threat to Democratic Party power.; 11/12/22, 10:51 AM
Justin_O_Guy said...: nn Althouse said...
She doesn't need you to save her and the belief that she does is insulting.

True, and if every angry white woman could learn that is true and stop being outraged For the People of Color,America would benefit.

And IF she had dressed down to help sister Shine, she would have been blasted for being tacky,Phhht,,; 11/12/22, 10:54 AM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: She can wear what she wants. It's ridiculous - but that's her business.

BTW - Ivanka and Jared just bought a huge plush mansion with that Saudi money.
In other opinions - I hope they give to charity.; 11/12/22, 11:05 AM
Lurker21 said...: I guess she doesn't have great judgment. After all, she did marry Jared.; 11/12/22, 11:19 AM
exhelodrvr1 said...: Nothing.; 11/12/22, 11:26 AM
Clark said...: "She doesn't need you to save her and the belief that she does is insulting." (—@Ann Althouse)

I am also wondering: "Prof, who is the she who doesn't need saving, and who is the you?" (—@Narr); 11/12/22, 11:59 AM
Tank said...: I don’t get it. They both look good to me.; 11/12/22, 12:06 PM
Temujin said...: Two things about Ivanka: She always looks great, and the press will always say she doesn't.; 11/12/22, 12:40 PM
William said...: I like items like this. It requires me to use my male gaze in the service of truth and justice rather than just prurient interest. How often do we get to use the male gaze to further the interests of civilization..... My take: Tiffany is an attractive woman. She's younger than Ivanka and possibly even a bit cuter. Ivanka though is taller and a shade prettier. She has more of a star quality. Not every woman can project a regal presence with a bare midriff. That might be due to being the father's favorite. The true princess.... In a sweeping gaze, my eye might linger a second longer on Ivanka but it would not avoid Tiffany.....It's a shame Chelsea wasn't invited to the wedding. She's kind of a palate cleanser for the male gaze and her presence might have been useful for grounding us to the relation of the Trump girls to the rest of the world.; 11/12/22, 12:42 PM
madAsHell said...: No tats??; 11/12/22, 12:43 PM
Leland said...: Agree with Narr and Gahrie, but not a big deal one way or another.; 11/12/22, 12:49 PM
Mr. Colby said...: What I wear under my circumstances is nobody's business but mine own.; 11/12/22, 12:53 PM
Drago said...: Lurker21: "I guess she doesn't have great judgment. After all, she did marry Jared."

They seem to care for each other and they've done quite well in other ways.

So I'm trying to understand why marrying Jared shows less than "great judgement".; 11/12/22, 1:02 PM
Eva Marie said...: Both women look lovely. Both outfits are gorgeous. Best wishes to the bride.; 11/12/22, 1:02 PM
Bender said...: This gets the "what the hell business is this of anyone??" tag.; 11/12/22, 1:20 PM
D.D. Driver said...: This reminds me that rich people are just like me: kind of trashy but like to have a good time.; 11/12/22, 1:39 PM
PM said...: A: I'd wear that had I that midsection.; 11/12/22, 1:44 PM
n.n said...: It's pornographic. Gynophobic. Women are the fairer sex, get over it.; 11/12/22, 1:52 PM
n.n said...: Tiffany looks beautiful. Ivanka looks beautiful. Both women look beautiful with tasteful presentation in context.; 11/12/22, 1:57 PM
n.n said...: Barbara looks beautiful, too. I love... dream of Genie.; 11/12/22, 1:59 PM
Lurker21 said...: The story about Jared's dad buying Jared's way into way into Harvard is not a good sign.

Jared and Ivanka were often accused of giving Trump terrible advice. According to some reports, when it came to Jared, Trump eventually agreed with that assessment.

I don't know if Jared and Ivanka are happy and right for each other, but following Jared's advice wasn't always showing good judgment.; 11/12/22, 2:06 PM
mikee said...: What were other guests wearing? The mother of the groom, for example? Any decolletage exhibitions, or outre' hair don'ts, or bad makeup choices? We haven't even started on the shoes....; 11/12/22, 2:43 PM
Michael K said...: I see two other commenters commented on that weird "save her" comment by AA but they didn't get deleted. At least the point is made.; 11/12/22, 3:00 PM
Howard said...: I'm just glad that Tiffany got skinny for Daddy on her wedding day. We all know how he hates her weight problem and was not looking forward to walking a chunky daughter down the aisle. I think Ivanka is rubbing it in a little bit too much in Tiff's face by showing off her fabulous rib cage.; 11/12/22, 3:05 PM
Drago said...: Lurker21: "I don't know if Jared and Ivanka are happy and right for each other, but following Jared's advice wasn't always showing good judgment."

Uh, this is what you wrote that I questioned:

Lurker21: "I guess she doesn't have great judgment. After all, she did marry Jared."

You should have stopped at "I don't know if Jared and Ivanka are happy and right for each other"

The points you are bringing up now are not germane to the question asked. Not that you owe me any answers, you don't. But don't try to slip in non-germane items. That stuff gets noticed pretty quickly.; 11/12/22, 3:18 PM
wildswan said...: I would have called up Ivanka, my sister, and asked her for advice and taken it, having recognized who has most fashion sense.; 11/12/22, 3:41 PM
Big Mike said...: Well, what would you wear under the circumstances?

A sport coat over a long sleeved dress shirt with open collar or perhaps a nice polo in electric blue. With khaki slacks, of course.; 11/12/22, 3:44 PM
MayBee said...: I don't think it's a great dress.

I have no idea what their relationship is. They grew up on opposite sides of the country, and Tiffany's mother was the person who came between her mother and father. Marla and Donald weren't together long after Tiffany was born. I don't have a problem imagining the two half sisters aren't close.; 11/12/22, 3:47 PM
Narr said...: FWIW they both look fine to me. Not fine-fine, just regular fine.

None of the Trumps or those they marry strike me as great looking people, but a fat wallet or purse casts an attractive aura for many.; 11/12/22, 4:04 PM
Lurker21 said...: I don't know what you consider "germane." There are always the stories about Jared being corrupt and getting Saudi money, but I didn't want to get into that. Apart from all his money the guy doesn't look to me to be any great catch, but tastes differ, I guess.; 11/12/22, 4:59 PM
DINKY DAU 45 said...: oN the back of her pants was written "I dont really care,do you"; 11/12/22, 5:07 PM
realestateacct said...: That's a pretty normal Palm Beach outfit and it looks good on her. Tiffany looks lovely too.; 11/12/22, 5:25 PM
RBE said...: Update! I just looked at the Daily Mail where there are pictures of the bridal party. WoW...the dresses are gorgeous and everybody looked lovely and happy.
All the snifflers can now relax.; 11/12/22, 5:55 PM
mccullough said...: Tiffany’s dress is nice.

Ivanka’s outfit a bit hoish.; 11/12/22, 6:15 PM
n.n said...: pictures of the bridal party. WoW...the dresses are gorgeous and everybody looked lovely and happy.

Yeah, no one is the fool. Sex appropriate, context appropriate, to normalize a favorable juxtaposition of the sexes with dignity and agency. Good for them.; 11/12/22, 6:18 PM
Jake said...: It’s the rehearsal. This is why we do them. Iron out the wrinkles. Duh.; 11/12/22, 6:21 PM
Readering said...: Maid of honor. So must get along. The wedding party dresses are great. Marla looks great for 59 too. Better than Melania.; 11/12/22, 9:24 PM
Tina Trent said...: It's South Florida. They both look fine.; 11/13/22, 4:15 AM
Christopher B said...: madAsHell said...
No tats??

That's a plus.; 11/13/22, 5:26 AM
Tina Trent said...: I wore a two-piece salmon pink satin dress with extra material inexplicably bunched on my rear once in my life, at the behest of a bride. I looked like Daffy Duck, as did the other bridesmaids, save the one who literally was a runway model.

Sigh.

When you are the bridesmaid, your fashion choices are not your own. The least reasonable human stalking the earth is a bride picking out her bridesmaids' outfits. There should be an entire chapter in the DSM describing this unhinged dominance-submission aspect of the traditional mating ritual. Symptoms include the patient saying: "of course you can repurpose this for work." Maybe it's different for the ultra-rich. But again, Miami is heavily influenced by wealthy South Americans who tend to go in for more baring outfits. Because only they have the bodies to do it.; 11/13/22, 6:42 AM