September 30, 2022

Sunrise — 6:37, 6:55, 6:57.

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24 comments:

gspencer said...

Before you know it, that lake will be a frozen plain.

Lem Former Twitter Aficionado said...

Journalism is dead

NYT Althouse, hardest hit.

Original Mike said...

Hmmm… Maybe not sabotage.

"Honestly, I suspect someone in the Russian government pinged Gazprom, and said, “The EU is about to have a cold winter. make sure those pipelines sodding well work, so we can sell someone natural gas at massively increased prices.”"

wildswan said...

I hear Putin is annexing Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn. That's coming right after the annexation of Miami Beach and Brighton Beach where lots of Russians live.

gadfly said...

Original Mike said...
Hmmm… Maybe not sabotage.

So the theory is that Russian engineers at Gazprom didn't know shit from Shinola about hydrate plugs and the EU co-owners, Shell and Wintershall, didn't tell them about BP's Deepwater Horizon blowout in the Gulf?

Operating underwater pipelines is not something new and different that doesn't require certain precautions such as additives and maintaining pressures.

No other Baltic Sea pipes running between Norway and Denmark had any problems. Hello!

wendybar said...

THIS is why we need to vote these critters out. EQUALITY for all...not Equity for people depending on their skin color. The Progressives love to divide us.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11269047/Kamala-says-Biden-administrations-hurricane-relief-focus-communities-color.html

wendybar said...

A big DUHHHHH! to our former president... We also didn't like the division YOU caused in this country.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11268479/Obama-breaks-Hillarys-2016-loss-record-remarks-press.html

Howard said...

Russia can't wipe it's own ass without Western know-how. We've seen Russian Army failure in maintenance and logistics. Sure, they might have sabotaged the pipes. However, incompetence is the primary deterministic emergent property of a fear based tyrannical operating system.

tim maguire said...

There are two kinds of readers—those who accept putting themselves into one of the given categories and those who insist that there are more categories. I expect you to write about things that interest you, sometimes they interest me, sometimes they don’t. It would never occur to me to complain that you’re writing about something I don’t care about.

And, of course, many of us really like your close analysis posts, in which the specific topic matters very little. What matters is the language analyzed and the rabbit hole you go down sussing out its possibilities.

wendybar said...

You have developed two large classes of people in America, those that live off the government and those who must pay for it.

https://townhall.com/columnists/jimrosslightfoot/2022/10/01/to-the-republican-leadership-or-lack-of-leadership-in-the-us-congress-n2613847

Lurker21 said...

Or could it have been sabotage, but not in the way people have been thinking? Could the computer control system have been hacked or manipulated from within? A cyberattack? There is a disputed story about the US putting errors and bugs into the software used to run a Soviet pipeline and causing an explosion in 1982. It's disputed -- there are claims that it was the ineptitude of Soviet engineers that caused the explosion, as ineptitude would cause the Chernobyl disaster a few years later.

The story, in that view, diagnoses the system. That's a pithy formulation, but I wonder if a language pedant might quibble about whether the phrasing is correct. Probably we could straighten that out before we figure out what caused either pipeline failure.


wendybar said...

THIS is why we need to fire them all. VOTE WISER!!! They suck, they HATE us, and they are screwing us over every single chance they can. They all belong in prison. 2 sets of laws. One for the elites, and one for the peons they steal from. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/10/the_house_fails_to_pass_bill_barring_lawmakers_from_stock_trading.html

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

"No other Baltic Sea pipes running between Norway and Denmark had any problems. Hello!"

No other pipelines are just sitting idle, without any gas flowing through them. Read for yourself the theory.

Rusty said...

Now they're claiming 100s of pounds of dynamite wrecked the pipeline. That leaves out the CIA. They have access to all kinds of underwater vehicles and the expertise to place the right amount of explosives in just the right place. Drunken Finns is my guess. They get up to wierd shit when they're drunk. Look at rally cross.

Rusty said...

Mike.
Yeah. That sounds about right.

Josephbleau said...

“Hmmm… Maybe not sabotage.”

I am more interested in the book adds at your link than the content, “It Came from the Trailer Park” sounds like a good read.

I am also amused by the tendency of Soviophylic commenters who get mad when you say that the Russians are incompetent at maintaining infrastructure. Marxist academics in the west, in the day, always proclaimed the superiority of soviet tech, and after 1990 there was a long mourning period where they lost their heros.

Soviet apartment buildings used to collapse due to poor raw materials and construction. You could see them around Moscow. Look at Chernobyl, in Ukraine, but a Soviet enterprise. Military equipment was probably the best. Aircraft and the space program seemed to be stodgy, solid, and reliable. But submarine disasters were common. Soviet engineering is about moving forward working the plan, but never doing the detail work in the end that maintains a safe operation. So a future incident that should not create a disaster, somehow does, because the right guy is drunk or decides it’s not his job.

I have worked with many Soviet immigrant engineers over the years and have heard a lot.

Capitalism is better than Communism or dictator oligarchy in getting good results.

Original Mike said...

"No other pipelines are just sitting idle, without any gas flowing through them."

Apparently that part went right over his head. He was in too much of a hurry to get to the snark.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Further explanation on the <a href="https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/10/nordstream-ii-electric-instapundit.html>Nordstream explosions</a>.

tim in vermont said...

Once the psy-op gets the rubes yapping, it's all over.

One pipeline has never been started, and the other was shut down not too long ago, and both pipelines blow up due to maintenance issues 17 hours apart? It sounds more like it wasn't one of the big guys with naval special forces, but like the CIA had warned Germany might happen, per the German papers, the Ukrainians, who earlier had tried to rent a boat in Sweden. Maybe they had better luck on Poland.

The only way to explain a lot of the things that they accuse Trump of doing, is to assume he is a mouth breathing moron, and then you can ignore the evidence of your eyes by invoking that simple explanation for why Trump would try, for example, to overthrow the government without a workable plan. "Well, he's that stupid" takes care of that objection quite nicely. But they would not use the same technique on you to push their war.

You guys going to tell your sons and grandsons to go fight the "orcs"?

Michael K said...

Mike of Snoqualmie, That is a very well done and convincing article.

Original Mike said...

"One pipeline has never been started, and the other was shut down not too long ago, and both pipelines blow up due to maintenance issues 17 hours apart?"

These facts actually support the author's theory. Did you read the article?

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Re: Pipeline explosions.

Hanlon's razor: "Never Attribute to Malice That Which Is Adequately Explained by Stupidity."

The Russians have stupidity in spades.


Old and slow said...

I read the article and it was pretty convincing. I found the writer himself to be so off-putting that I can't bring myself to read his follow up article. What an annoying prick!

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Putin heads a kleptocracy. Corruption is endemic and providing bad news to one's boss is likely to be prejudicial to one's health. Telling Putin that's there's a problem with the pipeline is likely to be buried by the workers and their bosses and the equipment and tools needed to maintain those pipelines was probably diverted to a kleptocrat's dacha.

So, yes, it's more likely stupidity that killed Cock Robin (Nordstreams 1 & 2) then malice.