September 3, 2022

"One night, [our housemate] and my boyfriend started bickering about which Lorde album is better..."

"... the first one or the second one. This kind of argument can be entertaining if the participants are making funny or interesting points, but they weren’t, and they wouldn’t drop it. The roommate was getting louder and louder; my boyfriend was repeating himself. It was Friday; I was tired. I snapped and said, loudly, 'This conversation is dumb, and I don’t want to keep having it.' I knew it was rude, but I thought it was expedient, eldest-sibling rude. So I was sort of shocked when the roommate got up without a word, went into his room, slammed the door, and never spoke to me again.... [One] time, I was on a Zoom call in the living room and heard, from behind his closed bedroom door, the Avril Lavigne song 'Girlfriend,' the chorus of which is a peppy 'Hey, hey, you, you, I don’t like your girlfriend,' playing at a pointed volume. Eventually, my boyfriend texted him to see if he would talk about the situation. He replied that there wasn’t much to say, except one thing: 'Your girlfriend is toxic,' he warned, followed by an emoji of a monkey covering its face."

Writes Kaitlyn Tiffany, in "That’s It. You’re Dead to Me. Suddenly everyone is 'toxic'" (The Atlantic).

24 comments:

gilbar said...

That's So Stupid. Who Cares about which Lords album is better? Who even cares who they are?
IF you're going to argue; you should argue about Important Things;
Like which Ramone was the better drummer? Tommy? or Marky? (of course, There the answer is obvious)

RideSpaceMountain said...

Hey hey
Kaitlyn with a "y"
Your boyfriend is gay
Do I need to tell you why?
Arguing over lorde...
Please say this is a gag...
This cannot be ignored.
Your boyfriend is a fag.

Kate said...

1) Men like to have philosophical conversations. They like to debate and dig. The topic is, for me, boring. As a woman, it's not my scene. It's not personal. I walk away and do something else, and they enjoy their uninterrupted camaraderie.

2) When I'm rude and snap, hurting someone else's feelings, I apologize.

YoungHegelian said...

You know, forgiveness is a hard virtue to learn and a harder one to actually put into practice. It was a tough virtue for a society that in the main believed that, if they couldn't practice forgiveness as their dear Lord & Savior wished them to, they'd burn in Hell for all eternity.

Now that the religious grounds of forgiveness are all but societally dead, don't expect there to be an awful lot of forgiveness going around. Combine that with a society filled with only children who basically got their way in everything and it's going to be petulance at every turn.

Joe Smith said...

Has she ever considered that your boyfriend is gay?

Bob Boyd said...

Should've just cranked up Superfreak by Rick James, the song that makes all other songs seem 2nd rate.

Rockeye said...

Reddit is a great place to see into the mind of a certain, significant, subsection of today's modern Americans. Everyone is toxic, narcissistic, non-binary, trans,or some sort of bigot. Everyone is 'low contact' or 'no contact' with their parents and family. Married couples resist joint accounts to the death. The pronoun thing there is especially egregious.

rcocean said...

Somehow I don't feel we're getting the whole story (assuming its true). But this sounds like a "straw that broke the camel's back" story. Its also about men and women. When you're stuck with a female co-worker or "Housemate", who's a bitch, and you're a man, there's not much you can to do except cut off communication.

You can't yell at them or fight them. Or threaten to beat the shit out of them if they ever "Do X Again". Many times with men, that will clear the air. Boundries have been set. Or you'll come to an understanding and just avoid each other.

With women all you can to do is just not talk to them. Which isn't much of a sacrifice, when they're toxic or agressive or boring.

Fred Drinkwater said...

This isn't an Atlantic article. It's an absolutely typical, dime a dozen, Reddit post on Am I The Asshole?

How the mighty have fallen.

Buckwheathikes said...

Who the fuck is Lourdes?

That's it, Ann. One more of these and you're getting my "Toxic" tag.

Lucien said...

Once you get over the hurdle of accepting Kaitlyn Tiffany as a real name, I suppose it's easy to believe the rest. One of the albums is favored by the People's Judean Front, who like their toilet paper to unroll from the top, and open their eggs at the little end, while the other is preferred by the Judean people's front, who unroll their toilet paper from the bottom, and open their eggs at the big end.
Don't ever say that those things don't matter & you don't care, 'cuz those mothers will cut you for that.

Howard said...

rcocean outlines the beta fantasy view. The alpha solution is to moved out months ago at the first sign of an unsolvable problem.

Iman said...

Lefty, weak-suck personalities…

gilbar said...

i've known people to come to blows over the high revving power of a chevy small block vs.
the low end torque of a big block Mopar (again, the answer is Obvious).
But which album of a no name band, is more Gay? That seems weird

n.n said...

dead-naming

rcocean said...

Howard:

Sometimes you like where you are. You just don't like them. Why the hell should you leave? Just pretend they don't exist.

Problem solved. isn't that what your Mistress nancy pelosi says to you?

gilbar said...

, and open their eggs at the little end
How Else COULD you open an egg?
This isn't something you could debate..
There is ONLY the way to open an egg,
There is NO other "way"

Rosalyn C. said...

Some guys simply can not handle a woman who asserts herself, especially if he is wrong. Doesn't matter what the circumstance because the damage has been done. End of story. Maybe she should apologize to him out of politeness, for hurting the roomate's feelings, and it would be interesting as an experiment to confirm my theory, but I wouldn't expect anything.

Big Mike said...

A woman just discovered that the “toxic” label can be applied to people other than males. Poor dear, isn’t she just precious?

I don’t know whether her boyfriend is gay or bi or unexpectedly straight, but the roommate is a whacko.

Bunkypotatohead said...

Lorde is a 45-year-old geologist from Colorado.
Why does this bunch give a rats ass about him?

Saint Croix said...

One of the albums is favored by the People's Judean Front, who like their toilet paper to unroll from the top, and open their eggs at the little end, while the other is preferred by the Judean people's front, who unroll their toilet paper from the bottom, and open their eggs at the big end.

Well, obviously anybody can easily flip the roll around. It's not worth discussing how insane the under-the-bottom crowd is. But what's a huge problem is the wrong toilet paper in the bathroom.

I am not wiping my ass with your Charmin delusions.

Cottonelle is soft and strong. So we don't leave any soldiers behind. You know what I'm saying, Joe Biden? That fucking soft toilet paper that falls apart when you need it. You are a Charmin fucker. And under-the-bottom, it's so obvious.

Some people say I'm over-the-top. Damn right!

Saint Croix said...

Science, motherfuckers. And Oprah.

mikee said...

It is a good thing to prevent toxic people from interacting with you in their toxic ways. But people are imperfect, and a method for resolving and forgiving imperfect acts, to promote the nontoxic behaviors most people are capable of exhibiting, certainly is better than living in a world where every affront requires eternal damnation.

Golden Rule, as a general ideal, perhaps?

Mikey NTH said...

The Apple of Discord.

And that's how Illium got leveled.