February 17, 2022

"I don’t believe in ultimatums. I don’t want nobody giving me one, and I’m not going to give anybody else one."

"I may be disappointed for the rest of my life, but I’m not going to give an ultimatum." 

Said Jim Clyburn, who is 81, quoted in "Jim Clyburn saved Biden’s candidacy — and now has the president’s ear on Supreme Court picks/The South Carolina lawmaker has tremendous influence in the White House, and he has made clear he wants the president to nominate U.S. District Judge J. Michelle Childs to the Supreme Court" (WaPo).

49 comments:

Joe Smith said...

Go ahead, Jim...order the white man around.

You know you want to.

mikee said...

If Rep. Clyburn wants to experience the loyalty, reciprocity, friendship and honesty of the Biden administration, I suggest he find the new dog, Commander. I also suggest Rep. Clyburn bring a bag of doggy treats to the meetup, to make certain his reception isn't barkey or biteful.

Biden will go with who he's told to nominate, the most outrageously proggy black woman available. When she's not confirmed, his handlers will pick from the real candidate pool of all qualified judges, without regard to dangly bits or ease of hiding in the dark.

Achilles said...

Well.

When you install an illegitimate hair sniffing pudding brain you tend to have what looks like a shit show of corruption and backscratching and racism.

Mike Sylwester said...

Democracy Dies in Darkness!

Wince said...

Perhaps Clyburn is already looking for a reason to distance himself from Biden, and so a rejection of Clyburn's protege would be a convenient excuse?

Achilles said...

We could pine for the day that the president would sit down with each candidate and interview them.

And know that the president was making decisions based on character, intelligence, and principles.

But democrat voters would rather have corrupt rulers that hand out racial spoils.

It is a good thing there aren't very many of those idiots left.

gilbar said...

you're Over Eighty years old... WHY are you still in Congress?
This made me wonder... How OLD are our Congresspeople?
From 2021 2 charts that show just how old this Congress actually is

Half of the US Senate is 65 years or older
The average age of senators in this Congress is 63.9,
and the average age of a House member is 58.3

People say that Congress is out of touch with the problems facing america...
Then, People reelect fossils like Chuck Grassley (age 88).
(yes, gilbar will be voting republican in 2022, which means he'll be voting for Grassley)

BUMBLE BEE said...

Biden's recent appointment... https://neveryetmelted.com/2022/02/11/samuel-brinton-will-join-the-department-of-energys-nuclear-power-office-as-the-agencys-second-in-command-of-nuclear-waste-issues/
Let that sink in.

rcocean said...

He has no power to force Biden to do anything. If Biden picks another Black lawyer in a skirt, what can he say?

rcocean said...

Notice how the D's have people who champion named judges for nomination. Compare that to the R's, who ALWAYS talk about "judges who follow the constiution" and then let the Republican POTUS pick whoever they like. Even Harriet Miers, Bush's girlfriend and secretary, got supported by R's.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

BUMBLE BEE said...

Biden's recent appointment...

What I want to know is if that will be what Brinton plans on wearing to the office every day?

rcocean said...

There's zero reason for these old fossils to let loose their grip on power. What are they going to retire to? Besides, its not like being a Senator or Congressmen is a hard job. They only have to show up to vote or sit on their committee and read questions written by their staff.

Pretty good job for a person one step from the grim reaper.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

If she’s an African American women of color, there shouldn’t be any obstacles then. The president already made that promise.

Saint Croix said...

One of the interesting things about Childs is that Nina Totenberg does not like her.

You can tell from the ugly comment about her father's death, as well as the attacks on her religion (Childs is a Catholic).

tim maguire said...

Sounds nice, but this isn't an ultimatum, it's Biden's half of a deal where Clyburn delivered on his half.

rehajm said...

I'm suspect about the level of Clyburn's responsibility for a President Biden. Clyburn was instrumental in saving Biden- that's one theory...or narrative. More plausible to me is the brain trust ruling the Democrats allowed things to flow through Iowa and New Hampshire and when it wasn't what they wanted/expected Clyburn was a convenient character to front the change in tack...

Given the second scenario I'm not sure his participation warrants a SCOTUS judge as compensation...

rhhardin said...

It's either nobody or anybody. Standard English uses anybody in non-assertive contexts (negatives and questions), substandard English uses nobody.

rhhardin said...

Loved her cookbook.

gilbar said...

rcocean said...
its not like being a Senator or Congressmen is a hard job. They only have to show up to vote or sit on their committee and read questions written by their staff.


I guess, THAT'S why it bothers me so much.. Having geriatric/senile/demented politicians makes it So Obvious, that our politicians are barely even figureheads
they do Nothing
they accomplish Nothing
they ARE Nothing

an eighty-two year old voting on a 2,387 page "law"?
If he Could read it through, would he remember ANY of the first thousand pages when complete?
They vote as they are told.. They do as they are told.. And they get paid in ice cream
Who's in charge? Who's picking the ice cream flavors?

Elliott A said...

If we are looking to be truly inclusive and reflect America, the addition of a member of our nation's largest religious group, non Catholic Christians should also be included in the illegal selection process. There are NONE on the Supreme Court

Balfegor said...

Re: gilbar:

Clyburn is old, sure, but lucid. So are Pelosi and McConnell. The gerontocracy problem is really the Biden problem. He's younger than Clyburn et al., but unlike them he very clearly drifts between coherence and incoherence. I'm fine with the elderly remaining in power. But they need to be up to the job mentally.

Readering said...

Saint Croix thanks for the link. Interesting person. Teenage Detroit transplant from broken home who still thrived in her new environment and then thrived at law firm practice. She certainly does not have the credentials of the other main candidates--SCOTUS clerkship becoming as standard for justtices as HLS/YLS degree--but if Graham is in her corner I can see her being picked. I don't see the profile as hostile. Those are salient facts about her that will get much discussion if she is nominated.

It is a pity Clyburn backed Biden into a corner in the primary. Gov. Newsome just replaced a Latino with a Latina on Cal Supreme Court. It was well known that he was looking at 4 Latinas. But he never proclaimed in advance that he was so limiting himself and his selection has triggered no controversy. It's politics, not discrimination.

Michael K said...

Clyburn is another part of the Democrats' youth movement.

Bad decisions that will outlive them.

Andrew said...

What do you all have against dogs?
Now if the guy dresses up as a cat, or plays cat games, then screw him.
I mean, not literally, but...
No, that's not a pun.
Dammit!

Butkus51 said...

Nominate Ru Paul

Problem solved.

Temujin said...

That's a great quote by Clyburn. If I didn't know better, I'd say he sounded like a reasonable man. On the other hand, going to the national press to speak of your disappointment to come if things don't go...well...a certain way, is a fairly passive-aggressive way of giving an ultimatum. I suspect the mood was more pointedly made in person.

Skeptical Voter said...

Well--putting the Clyburn Biden kerfuffle aside for a moment--there are some things I like about Judge Childs.

1. She's not a Harvard Yale product-having gone to a public university and a public law school. So if "diversity is our strength", she'd bring real diversity to the court. The fact that she's black and female just makes her a three fer in that regard.

2. Nina Totenberg and the NPR crowd don't like her. That's a plus in my book.

3. She's from a distinctly blue collar background; I still chuckle when I remember Senator Roman Hruska's spirited defense of a Supreme Court Nominee (J. Clement Haynsworth?) who had been accused of being "mediocre". Ol' Roman reared up on his hind legs in the Senate and said "mediocre people deserve representation too". Well Judge Childs is by no means mediocre--but she knows from blue collar. If the Washington Post can claim that Clarence Thomas is "a black person who votes like a white conservative", well maybe Judge Childs will think about and maybe even vote like a Deplorable.

Now as for Clyburn extracting a pledge from Biden in order to get Clyburn's support. Biden forgets a lot of things these days--and he may forget he ever made the pledge. We'll see.

rcocean said...

The lobbyists and the congressional staff write the 2,000 page bills. You can talk all day about how screwed up congress is, and how they aren't going their jobs, but the dumbshits keep voting for the same clowns every 2 years.

The Democrats & libtards don't care. They never have. Just give them their graft or bill allowing trannies free sex change operations or whatever and they're happy. The R's and I's should care, but are satisfied with campaign rhetoric.

rcocean said...

Its sort of a pathetic cope if you imagine the D's pick is going to be "Moderate" or "Conservative" in any way. Probably the same people who think that, believed Merrick Garland was a "moderate". Or Kagan. Or Breyer. Or Sotomayor. Or Ginsberg.

Readering said...

Elliott A: Gorsuch, educated at the same Jesuit high school as Kavenaugh, converted to Episcopalian, presumably with some influence from his wife. Thomas did the same, but then returned, after joining the Court. How doew that count? At one point I wondered if maybe Breyer did the same. He married in an Anglican church and has an Episcopal priest for a daughter.

MikeD said...

In the same "news" article: WaPo Describes Justice Thomas: "the Black justice whose rulings often resemble the thinking of White conservatives." One would think this is more deserving of interest than the thoughts of a geriatric compulsive liar.

Breezy said...

During one of the debates, at a certain point Biden neglected to say that he would nominate a black women for SCOTUS, as he agreed to do earlier with Clyburn. Clyburn was so incensed he went to Biden during a break in the debate and told him he must say this out loud, as a promise to the base. Biden committed to this black female nomination in the subsequent debate segment. I can’t imagine Biden forgetting that conversation….

It’s a good reminder that Biden didn’t actually win that primary on his own. Sanders was ahead and Obama, Clyburn, others could not allow him to be the Democrat nominee. So Biden is their pick, not the Democrat party’s pick. It was a late in the game orchestration of the preferred result. Cheaters that know no bounds.

That said, Childs’ background would make me lean toward her, if I had a vote. I think that it’s inspirational.

John henry said...

Gilbar,

I would not mind senators and congresspeople being 65 or older. I don't think age per se is a problem. I think the problem is more them turning 65 in office after having been there 10-20-30 years.

How about this, a constitutional amendment to change the minimum age for Senators to 65. Prior to that they would have been, hopefully, working in regular jobs in the regular economy.

If we did this senators would:

Have experience with the real world and real world accomplishment to be judged by

Be relative newbies in the Senate without a lot of experience in cooking up scememes with Senatorial cronies

Be more inclined to read the bills they vote on (One can hope)

Be effectively term limited. A senator elected at 65 would be 83 at the end of 3 terms and would likely decide to quit. Especially if they didn't have a lot of power.

I could probably come up with some other reasons given some time.

John Henry

Narayanan said...

are non-Ivy law school less taint of Affirmative Action? for SC nominations!

paminwi said...

The MSM hates Clarence Thomas,
Here’s the WaPo: …. the Washington Post’s grotesque — and now removed — description of Clarence Thomas as “a Black justice whose rulings often resemble the thinking of White conservatives.” I (Charles C.W. Cooke) would add to their comments only that this sort of ugliness is often addressed by Thomas himself, who has said:

People who will get very upset if someone said all blacks look alike are really comfortable saying all blacks ought to think alike. If you said that blacks should not be allowed to go a library, you’d be against that. If you said that blacks couldn’t read certain books in the library, you would say that’s wrong. But now we are so comfortable saying that blacks can’t hold some of the ideas in some of the books in the library. That’s absurd.

gilbar said...

John henry said...
How about this, a constitutional amendment to change the minimum age for Senators to 65.

I LIKE IT!
i've been advocate of mandatory retirement for federal personal (would require a constitutional amendment)
But your plan is Far More Better!
Another reason is that according to the Latin: senex meaning "the elder" or "old man"..
Senators are SUPPOSED TO BE Old... As you point out though,
they're NOT supposed to have their Entire Work Experience be: One Summer as a Life Guard in Corn Pop's hood

Amadeus 48 said...

"In the same "news" article: WaPo Describes Justice Thomas: "the Black justice whose rulings often resemble the thinking of White conservatives.""

That's what WaPoop gets for letting Whoopi Goldberg do their reporting for them.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

"I may be disappointed for the rest of my life, but I’m not going to give an ultimatum."

Which is what you say when you've privately delivered an ultimatum.

So it's a statement with no information value

Greg The Class Traitor said...

rcocean said...
He has no power to force Biden to do anything. If Biden picks another Black lawyer in a skirt, what can he say?

He can use his committee Chairmanship to start investigating the utterly corrupt Biden Admin.

He's a high seniority high powered black Democrat in the House.

Essentially there's no one who can hurt / challenge him if he goes on a rampage.

If he's really pissed enough, he can join with the GOP chairman next year, and make it a bipartisan investigation into corruption in the Administration.

Furthermore, the Dem "moderates" who face defeat this year are getting antsy:
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/02/17/moderate-dems-to-biden-time-for-some-heads-to-roll-n449271
"If he doesn’t take a new tack soon, it may be impossible for him to deliver for the public, help his party in November or move an agenda in the final three years of his term, according to a dozen lawmakers, White House officials and veteran Democratic Party operatives who spoke to NBC News about their concerns."

There's a lot of ways things can be made worse for the Biden* Admin

Greg The Class Traitor said...

rehajm said...
I'm suspect about the level of Clyburn's responsibility for a President Biden. Clyburn was instrumental in saving Biden- that's one theory...or narrative. More plausible to me is the brain trust ruling the Democrats allowed things to flow through Iowa and New Hampshire and when it wasn't what they wanted/expected Clyburn was a convenient character to front the change in tack...

Did the Dem "elite" hit the panic button after Iowa and New Hampshire? Heck yes!

But they weren't able to do anything other than panic. It was Clyburn who went to South Carolina Democrat black voters and said "vote for Biden". And they did.

And then the Dem "elite" parlayed that into bullying Beto, Amy K, and probably some other candidates I don't remember out of the race before Super Tuesday (including teh vote in Amy's State of MN).

Thus making it so non-Bernie voters didn't have much of a choice other than Biden.

If Clyburn had said nothing, Bernie would have remained the front runner through "Super Tuesday". After which there's a good chance it would have taken serious cheating to keep him from winning the nod.

Biden, the people running Biden, and teh Dem heads who didn't want Bernie, all owe Clyburn big time

Big Mike said...

Nominating someone to the federal bench as a payback for a political favor owed is an old, old story. What’s unusual about this iteration is how openly this is being played out. Not behind closed doors, no smoke-filled rooms, no wink-wink nudge-nudge. Not the slightest pretense of a search for “the best.” Democrats used to be better at this sort of thing.

Gahrie said...

What’s unusual about this iteration is how openly this is being played out.

At least half of the fun is being not only brazen about it, but even triumphant about it. It's much more fun if you get to spike the ball right in their faces and force them to accept it.

Gahrie said...

How about this, a constitutional amendment to change the minimum age for Senators to 65.

How about a Constitutional amendment to repeal the 17th Amendment and we go back to doing things the way they were designed?

gilbar said...

Gahrie said...
How about a Constitutional amendment to repeal the 17th Amendment and we go back to doing things the way they were designed?

stop talking sense! Seriously, That would fix Most of the problems in the country!

Achilles said...

Readering said...

It's politics, not discrimination.

That is pure brilliance.

Trump was a racist.

Democrats are just doing politics.

Probably the most intelligent thing said all day.

It must be lonely being intelligent and transparent enough to be a democrat.

boatbuilder said...

Don't we already have one black person from South Carolina on the Court?

I thought this was about "diversity" as the greatest and highest good.

Christopher B said...

The DNC faced the same problem in 2020 that the GOPe did in 2016.

They were both happy to use Bernie(Trump) in Iowa to siphon votes away from the non-preferred candidates like Warren(Cruz) without showing an iota of understanding of the benefit in New Hampshire from regional loyalty and prior exposure, and there is no downside for a candidate with money and in the top five staying in the race, but front-loaded primaries means the nominee is almost certainly going to be chosen from the top two finishers in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina on Super Tuesday.

So did the DNC stage-manage it from the start? Probably not but they certainly got high on their own supply and thought their voters were going to pick the 'right' candidate in New Hampshire. The difference largely was there isn't anybody running a bloc like Clyburn on the Republican side in South Carolina.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

"I don’t believe in ultimatums. I don’t want nobody giving me one, and I’m not going to give anybody else one."

I noted above that that's just the thing someone would say in public after having delivered one in private.

Now I'll note that it's a flat out lie, since it's already been covered on this blog that Clyburn went to Biden during the intermission of the Dem debate, and ordered him to say that he'd appoint a black female to SCOTUS.

After which Biden complied.

So he most certainly DOES "believe in ultimatums", and give them

readering said...

"Probably the most intelligent thing said all day."

[Takes a bow]