"In a society where discussing politics is largely off limits and traditional media is tightly controlled, popular culture is the rare realm where individualism can thrive. And so the 'little fresh meat' phenomenon is about more than fashion and aesthetics; it offers an outlet for Chinese men and women at a time of economic uncertainty and a shifting power dynamic between sexes.... What the party appears to ignore, though, in blaming them for allegedly corrupting young men is that their fan base is predominantly female and in wealthy metropolises like Beijing and Shanghai. These women’s embrace of a more fluid form of masculinity is not a phenomenon the party should dismiss. Well-educated and financially independent, these women are bucking gender norms themselves by turning away from matrimony and motherhood and are proving to be resistant to the party’s push to boost marriages and births to offset the effects of an aging population. To this end, the party would do well to heed these women’s preferences. As some fans put it, the seemingly gentle manner and mild temper of 'little fresh meat' offer a welcome contrast to the chauvinistic attitude they can encounter in Chinese men. 'Having men be tender and thoughtful like women improves them,' one woman going by the name Jiangzi wrote in an online essay explaining her fondness for 'little fresh meat.' 'In dating and marriage,' she asked, 'who likes to be scolded?'"
Writes Helen Gao in "China’s Ban on ‘Sissy Men’ Is Bound to Backfire" (NYT).
January 1, 2022
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remember the olden days? WAY BACK WHEN?
back when The Problem was China's overpopulation?
what ever happened to those days?
meanwhile, what are The Biggest Problems in America?
That's right!
we're not making enough electric cars, or windmills, or too many plastic bags...
or is it that too many people want to move here and get jobs?
maybe it's we're not spending enough time on CRT? (or too much?)
I know! it's defund the police! No, i mean REFUND the police!
China spent about 30 years forcing parents to abort Most baby girls...
Now, there's about 2 boys for every girl, so the girls get to pick and choose;
and they're choosing to stay single
Life's Funny Sometimes :)
Human nature doesn’t change. Some young Chinese women may feel comfortable around these girly men, but it’s in the same way some Western women like gay men. It may be who they choose to hang out with, but it’s not who they’ll choose to marry and procreate with.
tim said...
but it’s not who they’ll choose to marry and procreate with.
I think, the point is; they've chosen to NOT Marry and NOT procreate
It’s a totalitarian nation run by central planners with a poor human rights record. There’s a solution to every problem…
Yet you people are still afraid of China. It's apparent the ChiComs don't know whether to shit or go blind.
The Chinese ladies who come to America want to hookup with us tall trim white dudes who don't treat them like shit and pretend to listen with interest.
You people can relate to the poor Chinese men who are becoming deplorable INCELS.
“Little fresh meat”. Lovely (gag). But hey, to each his own- as the gender bound saying goes.
I had an experience a couple of days ago:
Small towns- I went grocery shopping and through the check out of a woman who graduated a year ahead of me- Catholic High School.
We chatted, as our daughters went all through the years together in school. A young man came up behind her and was talking a bit with her, as well- and heard my eldest’s name. “Oh, _____ is home for Christmas! I follow her on Facebook!” So I say- Hi- who are you and both my friend and this young man smile(I assume as they were both wearing masks) & I immediately knew- “Oh! I’m sorry!” The young man answered that it was fine- “I’ve changed a lot- lol.”
My friend’s daughter is now her son. I’ve talked about this here. What a beautiful person. It saved this person from a horrible life- and maybe a sad, lonely tragic death…
I told him he looked wonderful and that that was the 1st time he had every spoken to me 1st.
We need more Grace…
gilbar said...
“tim said... but it’s not who they’ll choose to marry and procreate with.”
I think, the point is; they've chosen to NOT Marry and NOT procreate
There are 2 contradictory points in the article—that these are the men women are marrying and women aren’t marrying anybody. I don’t believe either one. I do believe that Helen Gao has some friends who are what we would call fag hags and she decided to get an article out of it. A woman at 20 may say she doesn’t want marriage and children, but don’t draw any conclusions until you see her at 30.
Today’s a day blogger isn’t accepting embedded links. Check out 29/31 for a good explanation of the issue: https://youtu.be/H-gfxjAaZg0
It’s not the sissymen “we’re” “afraid” of, Howard.
It’s the complete lack of ethics/morality that allows- no, insists- upon imprisoning alternative thinkers and doers, enslaving youth and women to work for pennies on the$, annihilating minorities and unleashing Biowarfare into society…
Geesh.
The system you described from girl is completely unsustainable that's why I don't fear it. Happy New Year
"These women’s embrace of a more fluid form of masculinity is not a phenomenon the party should dismiss. Well-educated and financially independent, these women are bucking gender norms themselves by turning away from matrimony and motherhood and are proving to be resistant to the party’s push to boost marriages and births to offset the effects of an aging population."
Yes, the NY Times giving its approval to their view of masculinity and men. It's working out so well here in the Western nations. Warning that China best think this through because their own elite class seems to be going the same way as the Upper East Side of New York.
China, in it's wisdom, previously killed millions of their own, then put limits on childbirth for decades, and is now playing catch up in a game where you typically just don't catch up. Like the US and other Western nations, and Japan and Russia, their birthrate is a problem and replacement rates are not being met. Not by an aging population. And now, just like us ultra-sophisticated in the West, the Chinese are working on sophisticating themselves out of existence. Their only hope: Import Mexicans and Central Americans like we do. Mexicans can save the world. They seem to be the only ones still having sex.
"China’s Ban on ‘Sissy Men’ Is Bound to Backfire"
Yes and no. In China, the hard men win. Even when the hard men win, China loses.
oblivious projection - definition
The practice of failing to project an obvious image of yourself onto others.
Example:
You people can relate to the poor Chinese men who are becoming deplorable
INCELS.
What the party appears to ignore, though, in blaming them for allegedly corrupting young men is that their fan base is predominantly female and in wealthy metropolises like Beijing and Shanghai.
Mao knew how to deal with girlie boys and their affluent fans. It was not right, but when it comes to dictatorships, one shouldn't assume that imposing dictatorial policies is impossible.
Howard: "The system you described from girl is completely unsustainable that's why I don't fear it."
Nazi Germany, East Germany, the USSR, Lon Nol's Cambodia, Mao's Cultural Revolution, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Cuba, and the Warsaw Pact are/were all unsustainable Howie. Nothing to fear there either I guess if you're an imbecile.
Having men be tender and thoughtful like women improves them...
"No, that's old school pops. You need to keep your pimp hand strong."
Howard: "The system you described from girl is completely unsustainable that's why I don't fear it"
Your team has completely sold out to the ChiComs, so the unsustainability part is rapidly being offset by Team Dem (and their LLR/NeverTrump allies) efforts are to make the ChiCom endeavor quite sustainable, while wokifying our military.
How can it Backfire? Its a communist dicatatorship. Talk about wishful thinking.
Perhaps some newspaper in China can write an article about:
"America's Media Ban on Straight white males who voted for Trump may Backfire">
China, in it's wisdom, previously killed millions of their own, then put limits on childbirth for decades, and is now playing catch up in a game where you typically just don't catch up.
What would you say to the notion that China, in its malevolence, engineered a biological substance that is particularly lethal to older people, but not younger ones? What if they took to heart Scrooge's desire to decrease the surplus population?
Howard, I think pretty much everyone here knows you are a fat fuck living in someone else's basement and on SSDI. I imagine you are like Comic Book Guy, but without the entrepreneurial spirit.
China, with their 1 child policy, created a society where it's very expensive to raise children.
The amount of time, money, and effort Chinese parents pour into their 1 child is huge. Which means that if you have 2 children, and aren't fantastically wealthy, both your children start out behind the 8 ball, because mom and dad can't give each of them as much as the other parents are giving their 1.
In a society where it's all about the "academics" and tutoring, that investment matters.
So it doesn't matter what the CCP says, upwardly striving parents aren't going to have more than 1 kid.
China has 100+ million more males than females. So if you're not a 10, 9, or maybe 9 male, you're likely losing out on the dating game, and have to dance to the women's tune.
Or, you decide to go gay, because that was can at least get some sex.
If we can ever get some honest data out of China, we'll get a look at exactly what % of men are willing to go gay, outside a prison.
That's a big "if", of course.
But my guess is that the women going after the "little fresh meat" aren't women who want to have any kids. So pandering to them doesn't do the CCP any good
Bender said...
What would you say to the notion that China, in its malevolence, engineered a biological substance that is particularly lethal to older people, but not younger ones? What if they took to heart Scrooge's desire to decrease the surplus population?
China's "surplus population" is in its young males, not in older adults.
So Covid is poorly targeted
The US has only been attacked by the British Empire, the Empire of Japan and Al Qaeda. None of those other boogie men attacked the US of A: Nazi Germany, East Germany, the USSR, Lon Nol's Cambodia, Mao's Cultural Revolution, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Cuba, and the Warsaw Pact.
You fears are exactly implantations in your cerebral cortex by the deep state via social media behavioral control manipulations. Where's the next shit hole to funnel trillions down the tubes? Cold War with China looks like a great idea.
Those old Chinese need to be fed and housed.
More than enough cis-females to double their population within nine months.
Watching 1970s Midnight Special performances I'm astounded by how androgynous nearly every white performer was.
Women love it when you arouse their androgynous zones.
Good one Greg it was so terrifying that nobody living in Florida at the time even knew it was going on. What was going on what's going on all over the Eastern seaboard with the Nazis sinking all manner of ships. But they never orchestrated anything close to an invasion of the United States or a direct attack on our soil. Thanks for helping me make my point. You people are just a bunch of fraidy cats who see the boogeyman around the corner under the bed hiding in the shadows just waiting to destroy your ability to stuff your fat face with McDonald's cheeseburgers and supersize fries
Wow, Howard, way to dig deeper:
https://www.amazon.com/Nazi-Saboteurs-Hitlers-America-Scholastic/dp/1338259148
In 1942, amid a growing German threat, Nazi agents infiltrated the United States in hopes of destroying American infrastructure and sowing panic throughout the nation. Nazi Saboteurs tells the nail-biting tale of this daring plot, buried in history, for young readers for the first time. Black-and-white historical photos throughout paint a picture of a nation on edge, the FBI caught unawares, and the incredible capture of eight dangerous criminals. A thrilling historical narrative for WWII buffs, reluctant readers, and adventure junkies.
You just don't know shit about anything, do you? Let me guess, you're enough of a legal ignoramus that Ex parte Quirin means nothing to you
Here's a link:
https://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/nazi-saboteurs-trial.html
Start by telling the central American nations that the Chinese will welcome them with open arms. Will provide untold amounts of governmental assistance and a pathway to citizenship.
Then divert much of our welfare and border security funds to outfit those 10's of thousands of shipping containers into livable/temporary living quarters. Ship them fully staffed to China.
Problems solved:
Low birth rate in China.
Overwhelmed border in US.
MS-13 distracts the CCP from military expansion.
(I admit the fact that the Chinese are FAR more bigoted then AOC believes white Americans are, MIGHT be problematic).
Oh yeah. I don't think there's much "fresh meat" crossing Mexico on the way to the US.
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