October 30, 2021

"The Turkish government said this week that it has opened deportation proceedings against at least seven Syrian nationals accused of eating bananas in a 'provocative' way while participating in a TikTok video challenge..."

"... in a move that underscores rising hostility toward Syrians in a country with a reputation for being welcoming to refugees. The challenge was inspired by an Oct. 17 encounter on the streets of Istanbul that was captured on video, during which a man complained that he could not afford bananas, a staple that has fallen out of the reach of many consumers amid a poor economy. Turning to a female Syrian student, he alleged that refugees from Syria were buying the fruit by the 'kilos,' a reference to false rumors that displaced people were living in luxury off Turkish taxpayer largesse. In response, Syrians in Turkey and elsewhere posted videos of themselves eating bananas to poke fun at the incident. In one video, a group of young Syrians sat around the room, chuckling as they ate their fruit."

Skimming that, I got confused and thought the "provocative" banana-eating was something like this. You don't really need to look at that to know what it is. You know what it is. 

But it was just people engaged in typical banana-eating, like you see in that "one video" linked above. I experienced secondary confusion thinking the style — American style? — of taking a series of bites from the whole banana looks obscene in some countries. But no, it was just showing off that they had bananas and that it was absurd to think of access to bananas as a mark of a life of luxury.
Anyway, I got sidetracked into the question whether eating a banana straight out of the skin is objectionably crude. I have a vague memory of hearing someone in a movie say something like "There's no way to eat a banana that doesn't make boys think of a blow job." 

Me, I eat a banana by completely peeling it, putting it on a plate, breaking off bite-size pieces with a fork, and using a fork to put each piece separately into my mouth. That seems completely rational to me because I want the peel — which is garbage — to be out of the way while I'm enjoying my leisurely snack. Maybe that's what people in Turkey usually do too, and they experience the eat-it-whole method as rude. I don't know, but if you're ever served a banana in a stuffy dining environment — unlikely! — this this the official method — worldwide, I believe:


ADDED: The comments section over at WaPo is a prime example of how comments there always bring Trump in as soon as possible. The most-like comment is "Wow, Turks are even more fragile than Trump supporters."

36 comments:

Yancey Ward said...

Turkey in the mid/early stages of hyperinflation- their currency collapsing against the rest of the world.

Owen said...

“Yes, we have no ba-na-nas, we have no ba-na-nas today!”

Love your phrase “secondary confusion.” How many layers of confusion do you suppose there can be? As an analytical tool where does it become prohibitively confusing to refer to the Nth layer as opposed to the Nth+1?

Interesting to see that we have entered a shadow realm where cyber-gestures like a mocking TikTok or Twitter-storm can precipitate a very real crackdown by a tyrant spoiling for a fight. Is that democracy or chaos?

wildswan said...

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I date to eat a banana?

My official way is to cut it up and serve it with brown sugar and lime.

wildswan said...

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I date to eat a banana?

My official way is to cut it up and serve it with brown sugar and lime.

Uncle Pavian said...

I'm a grapefruit man, myself.

What's emanating from your penumbra said...

That video is funny. She won't even take a bite. My bananas usually get peeled and plopped into a bowl of cereal, then awkwardly cut with my spoon.

Patrick said...

Early in our marriage, my wife and I ate at a nice restaurant for our anniversary. We splurged and ordered a banana split for dessert ($9!). It came to us as 3 sections of banana placed vertically on the plate, each topped with a (very) small scoop of ice cream. It still makes us laugh

rhhardin said...

I'm so insensitive that I just eat the banana peeling as I go. The peel is a handle that allows you not to wash your hands first.

Amexpat said...

Me, I eat a banana by completely peeling it, putting it on a plate, breaking off bite-size pieces with a fork, and using a fork to put each piece separately into my mouth.

Reminds me of how Mr. Pitt ate his Snickers Bar on Seinfeld.

Scot said...

Turkish women are obliged to eat their bananas apart from the men.

cubanbob said...

The world is going bananas.

mikee said...

Now do eating figs! Slowly, slowly!

Ignorance is Bliss said...

You don't really need to look at that to know what it is.

But we will, because we already know what it is.

Bob Boyd said...

Me, I eat a banana by completely peeling it, putting it on a plate, breaking off bite-size pieces with a fork, and using a fork to put each piece separately into my mouth.

I hope you keep your legs crossed while you're at it.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

I don't know, but if you're ever served a banana in a stuffy dining environment — unlikely! — this this the official method — worldwide, I believe...

Now do popsicles

Tom T. said...

During postwar food rationing in Britain, Evelyn Waugh famously ate his children's bananas.

Joe Smith said...

'I want the peel — which is garbage — to be out of the way while I'm enjoying my leisurely snack.'

The peel isn't 'garbage,' it is just inedible and something you don't want to eat.

Bananas are perfect 'to go' snacks along with oranges...the good stuff stays protected until you want it.

Cutting up a fork makes me think you'd drink tea with your pinkie high in the air, which I doubt. At least you don't use a knife : )

Quaestor said...

My initial impression of that banana etiquette vid was a mildly droll parody reminiscent of Penn & Teller's Bullshit series, particularly the tenth episode of Season 4, which vivisects the prissiness of soi-disant "good manners" doyennes. Their camera crew was given access to a table manners seminar for MBA-types who habitually eat peas with a knife. Wow. That ungodly expensive training session should have been called "Fine Dining as Root Canal Surgery". Those poor saps were being conditioned for dinner at Buckingham Palace on a Royal PMS Evening. Even the great Queen Mum saw through that silliness.

However, on second thought, assuming a certifiably bonkers hostess who plans a formal meal including a bananes au naturel course (probably standard fare at the White House with "Doctor" Jill in charge -- two lunatics, one with false teeth) what would be the best policy? Serving a peeled banana is problematic, a well-ripened one turns brown so quickly. Consequently, if you must serve raw bananas, you'd as well leave the skin on them. Assuming you are the unlucky guest attending that aforementioned gustatorial atrocity you'd as well play along and butcher your nanner in the demonstrated style, eating the inner flesh slice by dainty slice from left to right.

Joe Smith said...

@ Ignorance is Bliss...

I've seen that clip elsewhere.

Incredible that it was just another part of a daytime network TV show.

God bless America.

Quaestor said...

During postwar food rationing in Britain, Evelyn Waugh famously ate his children's bananas.

Famously? If Waugh's banana-eating sessions were famous shouldn't he have charged admission?

Quaestor said...

Cutting up a fork makes me think you'd drink tea with your pinkie high in the air, which I doubt.

According to Chuck the Cuck, all of us here, including Althouse and Meade, are Hitler reincarnated, so we might as well.

Mein Führer, please leave room for your banana.

Balfegor said...

a reference to false rumors that displaced people were living in luxury off Turkish taxpayer largesse. In response, Syrians in Turkey and elsewhere posted videos of themselves eating bananas to poke fun at the incident.

This seems like a case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes," or as people say today, "fuck around and find out." I hope they enjoyed that momentary satisfaction of mocking their hosts who generously allowed them to stay as guests in their country.

I think Turkey is overreacting here, but the idea that it's somehow okay to mock an impoverished Turk for complaining that he can't afford bananas while you, refugees, guests in his country, can . . is just incomprehensible to me.

Gahrie said...

Me, I eat a banana by completely peeling it, putting it on a plate, breaking off bite-size pieces with a fork, and using a fork to put each piece separately into my mouth.

I bet you eat pizza and french fries with a fork also.

mtp said...

Can somebody tell me how this post ends?
I was never able to get past the tick tock link

Readering said...

Before seeing this I had a banana for breakfast the only way I've ever known since little boy; no need to wash my hands and no washup for Mom.

Roger Sweeny said...

Balfegor is right.

Ann Althouse said...

“ The peel isn't 'garbage,' it is just inedible and something you don't want to eat.”

It’s unpleasant looking and probably tainted with pesticides. I don’t want it on the plate.

I also always cut up an apple and get rid of the core before beginning to eat it. I haven’t bitten into a whole apple in decades. I don’t like the aesthetics.

Yancey Ward said...

Is the apple peeled?

Andrew said...

They'd better not watch the Bananarama Cruel Summer video.
https://youtu.be/l9ml3nyww80

tim maguire said...

Savior faire academy? Is that a real thing or is it a joke video?

Quaestor said...

I don’t like the aesthetics.

Cored apple aesthetics.

Magritte would have given up and gone into life insurance sales.

Howard said...

21st Century Banana Wars. Calling Smedley Butler

stephen cooper said...

What Balfegor said.

Narayanan said...

Professora said...
Me, I eat a banana by completely peeling it, putting it on a plate, breaking off bite-size pieces with a fork, and using a fork to put each piece separately into my mouth.

Gahrie said...
I bet you eat pizza and french fries with a fork also.
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John Kerry School of Gustatory Delights

Narayanan said...

Professora said...
Me, I eat a banana by completely peeling it, putting it on a plate, breaking off bite-size pieces with a fork, and using a fork to put each piece separately into my mouth.

Gahrie said...
I bet you eat pizza and french fries with a fork also.
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John Kerry School of Gustatory Delights

How does Professora eat hotdogs?

Narayanan said...

Professora said...
Me, I eat a banana by completely peeling it, putting it on a plate, breaking off bite-size pieces with a fork, and using a fork to put each piece separately into my mouth.

Gahrie said...
I bet you eat pizza and french fries with a fork also.
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John Kerry School of Gustatory Delights

How does Professora eat hotdogs?