"... to quickly deploy to U.S. border stations and tent sites where holding cells are crammed beyond capacity.... The number of these teens and children held in detention cells along the border surpassed 3,500 this week, a record, and the minors have been arriving at a rate that far exceeds the government’s ability to place them in shelters run by the Department of Health and Human Services or release them to vetted sponsors, often relatives living in the United States. With shelters run by HHS short on bed space, thousands of minors are stuck in rudimentary Border Patrol stations awaiting transfer.... More than 130 minors have been waiting 10 days in the custody of CBP, whose steel-and-concrete detention cells are designed as short-term holding cells for adults...."
From "ICE asks officers to deploy to border ‘as soon as this weekend’ to cope with surge" (WaPo).
That headline must have been different before, because the highest-rated comments are: "WaPo, please re-write this headline. ICE is asking internally for assistance. ICE is not calling for Trumpian militant volunteers to rush to the border to rough up immigrants." AND: "ICE should be careful when calling for 'volunteers.' They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back."
Yes, now I see the cached headline. It was: "ICE asks for volunteers to deploy to border ‘as soon as this weekend’ to cope with surge."
The word "cages" does not appear in this new article, but a couple days ago WaPo published "At border, record number of migrant youths wait in adult detention cells for longer than legally allowed":
The Border Patrol warehouse with chain-link holding pens that were decried as “cages” in 2018 has been closed for renovations, but the conditions in the stations are not much better. Young people are waiting in cramped, austere holding cells with concrete floors and benches. Lights remain on 24 hours a day, agents say, and there are few places to play.
Are they in cages now? Were they in cages then? I don't know, but in 2018 the word "cages" was used and the same facilities are currently closed for renovations — perhaps to make them less cage-y — so there's no shift from using the word for exactly the same place. Right now, the "young people" are stuck in "cramped, austere holding cells," but would these be "cages" if only Trump were President or is there some cell/cage distinction that has to do with chain-link fencing?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 327 of 327I never had to ask blacks how to be black. Obama did.
What does that tell you?
"I married a woman from a small French village on the German border, who - unbeknownst to me - had magic powers. She came here, and met up with all the other lying power-hungry bitches with magic powers, and that was THAT. She ran off with a homeopath they all liked a lot better than me with my facts, and logic, and reason, and evidence."
I'm sorry this happened to you Crack. Lorrainers and Alsace women are known to be unstable,
She unstable, not Crack? Okey dokey.
Why do so many people want to join Crack wallowing in his perpetual personal pity party?
Chest Rockwell said...
"He’s an Oreo . And apparently he harbors a lot of anger about that."
Wow. Everything about you guys is a wrong assumption to put me down - but you claim you're NOT RACISTS. Amazing.
"Your music sucks btw!"
Let's hear yours.
madAsHell said...
They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts, no training and an itch to shoot someone who can't shoot back.
I fail to see that as a problem.
I know, right? We could all get along if allowed to fulfill our roles in American life as we are, I think.
Why are they even bothering with staffing the border?
Send the ICE folks on a nice vacay and just let it happen
What is the point, sound like buyers remorse to me.
Howard said...
"The Christian love here is overwhelming."
It's the church organist who keeps things so Christian.
Over the past couple of years we were getting this under control.
Yes, the issue is emigration reform to mitigate the progress of immigration reform and collateral damage.
chickelit said...
John Henry: For those that do, it seems hard to avoid hiring central Americans.
Then you need to stop complaining about illegal immigration too in case you have.
+++
Why?
Unless I am hitting illegals. Which I am not.
The guy who does my yard is Puerto Rican. He works his ass off and does a nice job.
Many might think him black. He's not, he's Puerto Rican and if you called him black, as in American black you would likely get a diatribe objecting to the mistake. It might even include a denial along the lines of "I ain't no goddam" nword". Probably in Spanish but with the word in English.
Yet his ancestors came to the New world in chains, captured and sold into slavery by their tribesmen and countrymen. Subjected to horrible conditions there, on the way and here.
Just like Cracks ancestors. just like them.
Some of my wife's ancestors too.
John Henry
Hiring, not hitting illegals.
John Henry
FullMoon said...
"She unstable, not Crack? Okey dokey."
Yeah, her not me: in a culture that looks up to Oprah - who looks up to the UFO mumbo-jumbo of Shirley MacLaine - that could come as quite a shock.
By the way, never forget that I'm such a Donald Trump-like racist, I implore the WORLD to tear that woman a new asshole but - despite the fact she helps the Democrat Party to no end and will continue to do so into the future, though it would be EASY TO DEFEAT HER - no one, including Republicans, will do it.
Andrew Breitbart would've, though. I miss him. He was smarter than the rest of you put together.
Drago said...
CE: "..if you guys hadn't chased me away with the nonsense you force on me.."
Something very Freudian going on in that statement...
Why do you do this?
"Blacks aren't African - we're American ex-slaves. That's why Michael K makes my eyes roll. We've got no connection to Africas - that's the point."
You are not an ex-slave.
Mikey NTH said...
"Why do so many people want to join Crack wallowing in his perpetual personal pity party?"
This question should be on the thread about extremes, because this is what any statement by me becomes in your extremely fucked-up minds. You guys are so warped - everything is too this extreme.
I'm not at home, in front of a laptop, smoking pot, drinking beer, and reading white bullshit - I'm wallowing in a perpetual personal pity party.
In your minds.
I've been listening to Richard Feynman's 1960's lectures on physics. Today it was electromagnetism where he explains that the balance of positive and. negative charge in matter is perfect down to 10 ^26. Only 1 part in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is net positive or negative. Amazing.
But matter would have to be much, much more finely balanced before Crack would be unable to find in it some grievance to complain about.
John henry said...
"Many might think him black. He's not, he's Puerto Rican and if you called him black, as in American black you would likely get a diatribe objecting to the mistake....Just like Cracks ancestors. just like them."
Bullshit. Otherwise, he wouldn't be like Africans and Jamaicans and be so disdainful of black Americans - we're not that way with them. Again: it's a one-way street of hatred - just like with whites - that's what makes you a black American: you have been stripped of a past and EVERYONE HATES YOU FOR HAVING IT DONE (Ice Cube: "The Nigga You Love To Hate").
You do NOT understand the nuances of race, so you draw conclusions that are so wrong it's comical.
There are no other people on Earth like American blacks, so quit trying that bullshit:
What y'all did to us made us unique on the planet.
Sorry to interrupt the Crack thread, but there seems to be a growing international crisis at the border.
In his description, it is clear that these are not unsophisticated gangs that may operate in a territory but don’t control it. They are disciplined, militarized, transnational organizations that wield power over local and national governments to the south of our border. Cartels are not just a U.S.-Mexico problem. Sinaloa is in 54 nations globally, and Carte Jalisco in over 48 countries.
Cartels control the entire 2,000 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border. They have strong links to China to procure the raw materials required to manufacture crystal meth and fentanyl to traffic into the United States. Their ties go so deep with China that there is intermarriage between them. One cartel has hired chemists to find a formulation of fentanyl that has precursors readily available in Mexico to diversify their supply chain.
Biden might just succeed in bringing down the Mexican government as well as the US government. Of course, Biden is not aware of this and is serene in his delusions for reality.
Now, Crack can resume whining.
Are the Obama cages getting new use?
In all seriousness, I don't understand this. Suppose we keep these immigrants under guard for some period of time (a week? a month? does anyone imagine longer than a month?). What happens then? Will some magic solution to immigration appear during that time? Will the Biden administration insist that they return Mexico at the end of that time? To me (unless I'm missing something) those people will be released into the US economy at that time. So why not just release them now?
Michael K said...
"Now, Crack can resume whining."
Unlike African blacks who are all sterling examples of humanity, any white man would love, because they don't hate him - because he never enslaved them and then acted like an ignorant bastard for the rest of time, talking about how I should help him protect his stolen goods and I'm bad if I don't. Of course, he's against reparations, so like I care.
Oh, Michael K, you want to be like Michael Moore, so much - and you are - in that I really don't like you.
Ambrose: "Are the Obama cages getting new use?"
Those are Happy Fun Ball Spark of Divinity Cages.
Inga can explain it.
Michael K, I strongly suspect that the cartels control the Mexican government anyway so they probably won't bring it down. Every day drugs are seized at our border and one wonders at all those that are not seized. Having served on the Grand Jury for my county, I know that drug trafficking is the biggest crime problem here. The Border Control complains that their hands are often tied in regard to how the perps, most of whom are here illegally, are processed. In other words, we are stuck with them.
But what could the administration really have done?
Afterall it’s literally like only half the country saw this development coming.
If you won't pay reparations you can lose the border for all I care. And every election for the rest of time. As a matter of fact, every bad thing that can befall white people can happen and that's OK because they're so stubborn, and evil, and cruel, and willing to double-down on it for all time.
Protect the country? Kneel for the flag? It's not my country. Or my flag. Not without reparations. They're just all abstractions, I can ignore, like a fat white guy with money.
control f; The Crack emcee....12 out of 26 comments.
You are not that insightful
@Iowan,
He’s busy proving that he’s psychotic.
About ten more posts and he’ll even convince Inga.
well lopez obrador, has been going after the financing of the cartels, fixers like juan collado who served as go betweens both pri and pan, and the cartels, banks like banamex, a subsidiary of citibank, deutsch bank and hsbc wash the money, they work with triads, pla, venezuelan army officers, russian bratva.
Crack is an ex-slave? How old is he? The Atlantic slave trade, precipitated by African blacks, sent 95% of the slaves to the Caribbean/central/south america.
every bad thing that can befall white people can happen
I have an interesting post from a teacher in an all black school. He asked his students what would happen if all white people died or disappeared?
"We be fucked" was the answer from the class.
iowan2 said...
"You are not that insightful"
After surviving multiple rape attempts by gays, beatings by blacks and whites, attacks by Nazis in Yurp, canceling by the NewAge, and now constant online antasgonism from my friends in the Republican Party (who swear there are NO VICTIMS but whites in cancel culture) who has really had the time to write insightful material?
Tim said...
Crack is an ex-slave? How old is he? The Atlantic slave trade, precipitated by African blacks, sent 95% of the slaves to the Caribbean/central/south america.
See? Any of you - at any time - could catch yourselves and ask "Should I write this and out myself as an asshole?" BUT YOU DON'T.
It's so racist, it's hilarious.
Your mental illness put a “Kick Me!” sign on your back, Crack.
Everybody wants to beat the hell out of you. It’s your karma, bestowed upon you by your mother and father.
For God’s sake, get some help with your mental illness.
Michael K said...
"We be fucked" was the answer from the class.
He's young - I'm not: I don't give a damn about you.
Crack, you are such a sick, crazy man.
It’s pathetic.
I wish there was something I could do to convince you to seek help.
The beatings and hatred will always follow you.
It’s going to get even worse.
They’ll kick the shit out of you in the nursing home.
This is what your mom and dad did to you.
Conservatism's biggest turn-off is conservatives.
I'd be against cancel culture if y'all didn't need to be canceled.
And people on the border? Bring 'em in: they'll vote for reparations if you won't.
Crack, find some help for your mental illness.
There is help available.
There's a cocksucker talking somewhere - which means his lying mouth isn't full - or he isn't trying to decieve people, there's another plane of existence with sound, for money.
Whatever his major malfunction is, he can take it up with the Harvey Milk Memorial Foundation, not me.
Liars don't matter.
Crack, do you have a counselor you have to see over welfare payments?
If you do, ask him or her to direct you to mental health services.
Wouldn't it be easier to just annex Mexico?
Mexico isn't the problem now. It's Central America.
We have too many failed united states as it is
Mexico has been a failed state for a century or two, but things there were looking up in recent years.
We may pass them on the way down.
Remember when they had a stolen presidential election and we couldn't understand how they could let that happen?
And people on the border? Bring 'em in: they'll vote for reparations if you won't.
Actually, no they won’t.
It’s a hole that keeps getting deeper.
Stop talking, Crack says- keep shoveling...
When does “the enemy of my enemy” become a friend?
And you aren’t an American ex-slave: if I may be so bold?
A descendant of an American ex-slave...
And- we’ll, is that how one wants to live?
they had a couple of stolen election 1988 was one, 2006 was another, probably 2012, certainly vicente fox and pena nieto, had their ins with the cartels,
@h
The only reason I can think of is for the optics. Somebody has weighed it out and come to the conclusion that kids in cages may look bad (and Trump's to blame somehow anyway), but just letting them pass thru (and they are, with only momentary pause) without any show of mediation would look worse.
What I don't understand is why anyone would think that increasing the number of unskilled uneducated people into the populace is a good thing. The numbers both economic and civil put the lie to that. Even readering and Inga should know better.
The Dems have reached the conclusion that the economic harm to the lower quintile of US citizens is a necessary evil that will help them retain power which they think is in the interest of the greater good in the long run. It also provides cheap labor to their mega donors. Win win as far as they are concerned.
Any of you - at any time - could catch yourselves and ask "Should I write this and out myself as an asshole?" BUT YOU DON'T.
Haha! Perfect.
they had a couple of stolen election
I wondered why AMLO didn't congratulate Biden on his election when the other foreign leaders did.
But losing a rigged election or two himself may have made him skeptical and cautious.
It also provides cheap labor to their mega donors. Win win as far as they are concerned.
That is a bipartisan win-win by the way. The GOPe loves endless cheap labor.
The Dick Gephardt wing of the Dem party used to care about such things but they were shown the door a long time ago. Lifelong Dems like Inga are just lip-synching labor interest at this point with not real interest in the betterment of their grandchildren's lives.
On Andrew Breitbart’s greatest of intelligence:
Amen 2that.
Many of the migrants will end up in LA and Orange County (Santa Ana). The last thing those places need is more people crammed into limited housing and more COVID. There oughta be a law...
Liars don’t matter- it’s Truth that matters. That’s a fact.
And Trust, of which is slim to none.
Big Mike said...
And people on the border? Bring 'em in: they'll vote for reparations if you won't.
Actually, no they won’t.
I'm living with them, right now, and yes they will.
farmgirl said...
And you aren’t an American ex-slave: if I may be so bold?
A descendant of an American ex-slave...
And- we’ll, is that how one wants to live?
I like how you guys are so extreme you won't allow a black man to speak colloquially, but, when I'm just lurking, you all talk like that amongst your white selves all day long - it's very revealing.
And yes, I'm very proud to be a descendant of an American ex-slave. From slavery, we are the fastest rising population in the history of the entire human race. Our migration was the biggest in history. I look at the money we're finally allowed to generate and wonder what America would've been without you racists. And we're just getting started. That's something white racists don't get at all: you're sniping at people just out of the starting gate. You've been around for centuries, living your pathetic lives, holding us back. We are primed to conquer the world culturally - with only you wanting to be left out.
But that's how YOU want to live.
And BTW - that "fastest rising population in the history of the entire human race" line?
Got it from Thomas Sowell, so kiss my black ass.
farmgirl said...
Liars don’t matter- it’s Truth that matters. That’s a fact.
And Trust, of which is slim to none.
You have to tell the truth to establish trust.
Gays never learned that in my experience.
Was a time not so long ago, when the intelligence agencies would report on foreign, (enemy), agent activities in Central America. I'm guessing there's a lot going on we should know about as a nation.
Crack YOU NEED A MEETING. BIGLY.
narciso said...
they had a couple of stolen election 1988 was one, 2006 was another, probably 2012, certainly vicente fox and pena nieto, had their ins with the cartels,
1975, San Francisco, George Moscone and Harvey Milk with the aid of Jim Jones - which is just like Obama and Biden with the aid of Oprah's cult, especially after three years of Russian Collusion lies,...apparently everybody's just going to let slide now? I'm never clear on how white people handle conflict like this, because blacks woulda bust a cap in Hillary's ass by now. What gives?
Are the Republicans really like "that's done"?
BUMBLE BEE said...
Crack YOU NEED A MEETING. BIGLY.
No, you need Trump back, so you don't look so ugly all the time.
farmgirl said...
On Andrew Breitbart’s greatest of intelligence:
Amen 2that.
Everybody says that, but do they LISTEN to him and act on what he said? NO.
If you did, you wouldn't be talking straight politics all the time. You guys do the opposite of what he said.
That's no way to honor a great man.
I say "Oprah" and your eyes roll - THAT'S you denying Andrew Breitbart's wisdom.
The only beef I like is on 4Feet and chewing cud: we all live our lives as we know it.
What I meant- not that it matters- is that you are so much greater than, w/out leaving lineage behind. Always have been. Always will be.
There was a great society back in the 40s back thensome& forward more. Parallel most likely and ready to conquer culturally. Something did happen. And today is a shadow to “your”(collective) former days of Grace. Or wealth, if u prefer.
Conversation isn’t sniping, to me. Curiosity for knowledge holds conversation’s hand.
Trust is so easily broken, so very hard to recapture.
Ps- I like my pathetic life. Sap’s running and 1st boil tomorrow. The tangible things are sweetest...
I look at the money we're finally allowed to generate and wonder what America would've been without you racists. And we're just getting started. That's something white racists don't get at all: you're sniping at people just out of the starting gate.
Haha! Black man don't have a chance 'cause white man hold him down..
chickelit said...
Many of the migrants will end up in LA and Orange County (Santa Ana). The last thing those places need is more people crammed into limited housing and more COVID. There oughta be a law...
There are laws - tons of 'em. What there isn't, is a coherent CULTURE, because you white people are at war with anyone who doesn't toe your arbitrary lines 100% - a point I've already made today. So nobody wants to enforce laws for YOU. You're mean to everybody but you.
You are the country's worst enemy ands I blame your stubborn meanness for cancel culture today. People want you gone.
Ps- I like my pathetic life. Sap’s running and 1st boil tomorrow. The tangible things are sweetest..
This week I boiled 5 gallons down to a pint of the best tasting syrup I've ever tasted.
FullMoon said...
I look at the money we're finally allowed to generate and wonder what America would've been without you racists. And we're just getting started. That's something white racists don't get at all: you're sniping at people just out of the starting gate.
Haha! Black man don't have a chance 'cause white man hold him down..
Fuck you. When I was kid blacks couldn't walk on the same sidewalk with whites.
farmgirl said...
"The tangible things are sweetest..."
Yes, patronizing white person, blacks wouldn't know anything about that.
Our skin prevents it.
I think donahue was the first horeseman
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/03/exec-metoo-group-covered-bidens-sex-abuse-heads-daniel-greenfield/
I’m not an Oprah girl- I admire her ability to overcome her horrific abuse as she did, but most of the ppl she holds in esteem aren’t that important to me. Funnily enough- I like Gayle. I don’t know Gayle’s story, but her attitude is so straightforward, her way of talking to the heart. Her questions seem sincere. I haven’t watched news in 5yrs- so I’m not up her.
When I was kid blacks couldn't walk on the same sidewalk with whites.
I didn't know you were 100 years old. Explains a lot.
Asking for a friend: Will trans-ethnics qualify for reparations? If not, is there to be an official registry of qualifying individuals? How will that registry operate?
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
John henry said...
"Many might think him black. He's not, he's Puerto Rican and if you called him black, as in American black you would likely get a diatribe objecting to the mistake....Just like Cracks ancestors. just like them."
That is some pretty blatantly dishonest quoting there. Crack. You should go back and remove it. You won't, but you should. (I don't care one way or t'other) Would your ancestors be offended by being identified as a black American? In the same way that many black Puerto Ricans are?
I was talking about how they came to the New World, in chains, as slaves. Not how your ancestors would give a diatribe about black Americans.
Bullshit. Otherwise, he wouldn't be like Africans and Jamaicans and be so disdainful of black Americans - we're not that way with them.
I'm not clear what you mean here. It sounds like you are saying that only Africans and Jamaicans are disdainful of American blacks. It's pretty much all non-American blacks from Cuba through the arc to Trinidad. Plus Africa. They all went through the same experience as your ancestors. Whether they were enslaved by French, Portugese, Dutch, English, Spanish.
You do NOT understand the nuances of race, so you draw conclusions that are so wrong it's comical.
I identify as Puerto Rican, Crack. That makes me a "Person of Color", like you. You are not allowed to talk about a fellow POC that way. Solidarity, brother, solidarity.
John Henry
Hes been very perceptive
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-sovietization-of-the-american
farmgirl said...
"I’m not an Oprah girl- I admire her ability to overcome her horrific abuse as she did, but most of the ppl she holds in esteem aren’t that important to me. Funnily enough- I like Gayle. I don’t know Gayle’s story, but her attitude is so straightforward, her way of talking to the heart. Her questions seem sincere. I haven’t watched news in 5yrs- so I’m not up her."
So you admire two women who promote con artists, quacks, rapists, and murderers, as long as they have a straightforward manner and a compelling personal story.
That sounds like a white person with no ethics to disturb things.
Cuba was a largely black population till a major spanish immigration in the 19th century, with the emigre movement it has teturned to that status quo ante, and its run by a ruling class of spanish immigrants notably the castros
To err is human. To really screw things up requires Joe Biden.
Michael K said...
When I was kid blacks couldn't walk on the same sidewalk with whites.
I didn't know you were 100 years old. Explains a lot.
That you think that stopped 100 years ago shows how ignorant you are of your own country, as you antagonize blacks daily as not-a-racist.
Most people in mass media are gag worthy, take joe scarborough or chris cuomo
Not really.
Yes we're still in 1953, shirley
Just so you get it right in the future Crach, Britain got around to abolishing slavery in British East Africa in 1904, British Malaya in 1915, ended the Indian indenture system in the British Raj in 1917, the slavery of Mui Thai in Hong Kong in 1923, and British Burma in 1926. Our last vestige was Guam, which we officially took over December 1898 and abolished slavery there 22 February 1900. So we beat the British by a few decades.
John henry said...
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
John henry said...
"Many might think him black. He's not, he's Puerto Rican and if you called him black, as in American black you would likely get a diatribe objecting to the mistake....Just like Cracks ancestors. just like them."
That is some pretty blatantly dishonest quoting there. Crack. You should go back and remove it. You won't, but you should. (I don't care one way or t'other)
I love it - you don't care - but you fuck with me anyway over it: how white of you.
"Would your ancestors be offended by being identified as a black American? In the same way that many black Puerto Ricans are?"
They're dead.
"I was talking about how they came to the New World, in chains, as slaves. Not how your ancestors would give a diatribe about black Americans."
Nobody endured the American version of slavery. Part of the trip, maybe, not not this shit. THere's no white men in Jamaica denying what happened to them at their hands.
"I'm not clear what you mean here."
Then just stop there and don't risk sounding stupid some more.
"I identify as Puerto Rican, Crack. That makes me a "Person of Color", like you."
That's marxism - I'm black, thanks.
The crazies in Shakespeare are often trying to tell us something from their position as intermediaries with the underworld.
Taibbi summarizes the madness we're facing.
The CCP is softening up the U.S. in every possible way, attacking every institution. I'm not sure what they intend to do as a kill shot, but it's coming. Scott Adams spoke today about how the CCP is manufacturing fentanyl and sending it into the U.S. through Mexico. Those open borders help a lot, don't they? Combat uniforms for pregnant soldiers, even better!
Crack is insane, that's true, but as a crazy he can feel the world falling apart around him and the demons crawling out of the underworld.
Taibbi's piece is very good, but like Althouse, he couldn't understand (and still doesn't) that Trump was what was holding this at bay.
Crack is trying to sound the alarm in his psychotic way because he can feel the cataclysm coming.
His focus is misplaced, and a little manic to the Arab the Chinese, the Saudis (see their darked skinned yemeni) africans are not well regarded.
Per narciso: well lopez obrador, has been going after the financing of the cartels, fixers like juan collado who served as go betweens both pri and pan, and the cartels, banks like banamex, a subsidiary of citibank, deutsch bank and hsbc wash the money, they work with triads, pla, venezuelan army officers, russian bratva..
I don't think Señor Obrador is running Mexico any more than Biden is running the US. Do you?
Shouting Thomas said....Crack is trying to sound the alarm in his psychotic way because he can feel the cataclysm coming.
Give it a fucking break, ST. Crack is having a manic episode.
Let it be.
Hes the head of the insurgent party morena (movement for national renewal) which is decidedly left wing, but i take your point.
Give it a fucking break, ST. Crack is having a manic episode.
Indeed, he is.
Read what I said again.
He can feel the demons arising from the underworld. The insane are the prophets of doom in Shakespeare, and for good reason.
They can feel what we can only try to understand through our intellects. The CCP is plotting its kill shot.
I hear you sounding the alarm, Crack. I do.
But of course
https://nypost.com/2021/03/12/pelosi-re-appoints-swalwell-to-intel-committee-amid-scandal/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons
Double double toil and trouble
Fire burn and cauldron bubble
Blogger Shouting Thomas said...
Double double toil and trouble
Fire burn and cauldron bubble
You need to quote more. They put bats in the cauldron a couple lines further on.
Isn't that where Kung Flu came from?
It's not the Chinese.
IT'S THOSE DAMNED SCOTS!!!
(For any Scots here, just kidding.)
John Henry
As noted above the compose window, “Comments may be deleted... for... stupid back-and-forth.”
There is a shitload of back-and-forth in this thread, but I’m not in the mood to spend half an hour deleting stuff. I’m just going to demand that you all stop. Nearly every comment that addresses another commenter by name is a problem. Stop addressing people personally. Add substance. Address issues. Telling other people they are bad or crazy or whatever is terrible clutter. Some people answer every time they are addressed, and that is bad clutter too. It creates a downward spiral and ruins the comments. You need to stop. Think of other ways to speak. Don’t make it personal, because it causes an echo effect that is manifestly bad.
Blogger Shouting Thomas said...
The CCP is plotting its kill shot.
That worries me too. And Biden just sent a carrier over to the Taiwan Straits. Anyone doubt that the Chinese can track that to the inch?
And can put a cruise missile into its flight deck? Remember, you don't need to sink a carrier, all you need to do is render its flight deck, full of complex, sensitive, catapults, arresting gear, elevators and other gadgets, inoperable.
"Oh, so very sorry, Joe. We were testing a cruise missile and it went out of control."
And while the Americans are trying to decide whether it was really an accident, and we are naked for a day or two, They take back Taiwan.
And what are we gonna do about it? Are we going to war over a country we don't even recognize? With a nuclear armed power?
John Henry
The CCP has already stated publicly that they seek a 'peaceful unification' with Taiwan. But we know what happens if Taiwan doesn't fold immediately.
Chinese Ghost Cities. Are these for future use of the foreign elite who assist China in their conquests?
I'm late to this thread, being at work and such. It might be not acceptable to many, but 300 or so Americans with firearms might secure the border on any 30 kilometer front - far better than the Border Patrol apparently as currently deployed. The migrants are invaders in my opinion. It might suck that their home country is in the crapper, but it doesn't make them our responsibility. Now they arrive, and the Biden Administration is gearing up unemployment, welfare, food stamps, stimulus checks for them. Plus have illegals accounted in the Census for congressional apportionment, and so forth.
North American slavery as it existed until 1860 was the least deadly and degenerate form in the whole era.
The greatest number by far of enslaved Africans went to South America and the Caribbean islands, where conditions were such that a seven year life-span was factored in by purchasers. The American plantation, for all its real horrors, was far from the worst form, and the American slave population was the only one to grow without massive and sustained importation from the sources in Africa.
Narr
No brag, just fact
"Oh, so very sorry, Joe. We were testing a cruise missile and it went out of control."
That's actually a scene in Tom Clancy's novel "Debt of Honor." He was so prescient. And while the novel is about a war with Japan (predicted by George Friedman's "Stratfor"about 15 years ago) but the incident is by a duplicitous China.
The 2020 election reminds me of when a car jacker steals a car and then finds a kid in the back seat.
But they didn't all say “All Men Are Created Equal” and then renege on it for centuries until we went to war - and then continued it for another century by other means. Nobody else did that - but you.
Wrong. The Romans (not Christianity but Stoicism-steeped Roman jurists) invented the legal and moral principle that “All Men are Equal” — then, over the centuries and centuries that the Roman Empire existed (the longest-lived State in history), no attempt was ever made — nobody really even advocated — abolishing slavery.
Narr,
And often slaves brought to the Northern colonies were 'seasoned' in the Caribbean for six or so years before being traded to the Atlantic English colonies, as they had survived the various 'fevers' that befell newcomers to the Islands. Far more Africans died working, or being transported to the Spanish Main areas than any North American colonies. Can we get Spain and Portugal to put up reparations (or whatever they call it) money? Those two countries worked more Africans to death than any Atlantic Anglo colony, it is not debatable. If England hadn't insisted on the Assiento, they might have had cleaner hands.
mockturtle: "The CCP has already stated publicly that they seek a 'peaceful unification' with Taiwan. But we know what happens if Taiwan doesn't fold immediately."
It will be a Spark of Divinity "peaceful unification".
Inga can explain it.
"Crack is trying to sound the alarm in his psychotic way because he can feel the cataclysm coming."
Crack is not wrong about that.
At all.
Michael, todd, thanks for the comments and corrections.
It's been a while, but IIRC the Roman legal system was growing more liberal and humane in regard to prisoners and slaves long before Christianity became dominant there.
As to abolition in Late Antiquity, the notion became irrelevant as the former distinctions between free- and bondsmen disappeared into serfdom for almost everyone.
Re: China. I don't think they'll move until some other crisis or "crisis" has our extremely limited political bandwidth concentrated on something elsewhere. They have no doubt learned a lot about our shortcomings and weaknesses from what I have come to see as a controlled experiment to gauge our reaction and readiness a.k.a. COVID-19.
Some kind of Existential Threat to World Survival a.k.a. as half-assed dictator of a poor and backward shithole framed for something he didn't do . . . that would serve to keep the peasantry and bien-pensants focused on the McGuffin.
Narr
Like, you know the guy, whazzisname!
Apparently, Nostrodamus predicted a zombie apocalypse in 2021.
Blogger Michael K said...
That's actually a scene in Tom Clancy's novel "Debt of Honor." He was so prescient.
That is what I was thinking of when I wrote my comment. I knew it was Clancy, could not remember the book.
I think it was torpedoes from a destroyer, right?
John Henry
Francisco D said...
"Give it a fucking break, ST. Crack is having a manic episode."
I go away - come back - and you guys are still putting your assumptions forward as the truth of what Crack is doing, feeling, thinking.
Your dumb asses know all.
Ann Althouse said...
As noted above the compose window, “Comments may be deleted... for... stupid back-and-forth.”
Anyone can see from these threads that I get attacked by a mob here, so fuck anyone blaming me for more than existing amongst a bunch of white sociopaths worthy of Seinfeld.
I keep busting them in obvious lies - using their own quotes - but none of you white people care about lying enough to treat liars like liars.
They're obviously each other's peers in. that.
Shouting Thomas said...
I hear you sounding the alarm, Crack. I do.
You hear the bats in your fucking head.
Narr said...
"The greatest number by far of enslaved Africans went to South America and the Caribbean islands, where conditions were such that a seven year life-span was factored in by purchasers. The American plantation, for all its real horrors, was far from the worst form, and the American slave population was the only one to grow without massive and sustained importation from the sources in Africa."
Still trying to find a way too p[at yourself on the back for the horror inflicted on people, right?
Black women, made pregnant by white men, forced to do laundry in the snow because the white man's jealous wife hates her guts - that's your "better"?
Narr said...
"The greatest number by far of enslaved Africans went to South America and the Caribbean islands, where conditions were such that a seven year life-span was factored in by purchasers. The American plantation, for all its real horrors, was far from the worst form, and the American slave population was the only one to grow without massive and sustained importation from the sources in Africa."
That white guys are willing to even TRY and make slavery palatable is horrific.
Narr said...
"The greatest number by far of enslaved Africans went to South America and the Caribbean islands, where conditions were such that a seven year life-span was factored in by purchasers. The American plantation, for all its real horrors, was far from the worst form, and the American slave population was the only one to grow without massive and sustained importation from the sources in Africa."
That white need a black person to p[oint out how horrible this claim iOS says y'all are racists.
"far from the worst form"
Just cutting off noses and limbs - that's all.
The only observation accepted is: racism.
Ok, good bye, nice "conversation".
PaoloP said...
The only observation accepted is: racism.
Ok, good bye, nice "conversation".
I know - even when ST is saying "black" all over the place, and the rest of you say nothing, don't accuse you guys of racism - even if it's true.
LIE TO WHITE PEOPLE TO MAKE THERM HAPPY.
Maybe some of those "teachers" who refuse to go to work can volunteer to help out???
Crack is maintaining that if you wear cotton, you have somehow exploited black slaves. But just exactly how would you measure that benefit? As an economist, the first place I would look is to historic cotton prices.
From Cotton Prices More Stable in Recent Years", a 2002 article I found on line:
Longer-term, U.S. cotton prices literally have been all over the board throughout the 200 years for which prices are available.
In 1800, prior to the invention of the cotton gin, cotton sold for 37 cents per pound. While that might seem like a low price today, it's the equivalent of $2.89 per pound in 1998 dollars, according to Frank Weathersby of Affinity Cotton Trading.
Cotton sold for as little as 10 cents in the early 1800s and again in the 1840s before jumping to $1.26 per pound during the Civil War. In the aftermath of the war, cotton prices fell as low as 6 cents per pound in the 1890s.
World War I brought another jump in price, but not to the levels seen in the Civil War. The Great War (as World War I is sometimes referred to) only pushed cotton prices into the 30s.
During World War II and the years that followed, cotton prices remained in the 30s except in the mid-1960s, when synthetic fabrics became the rage and sent prices for cotton tumbling into the 20s. When farmers began to fight back through investments in Cotton Incorporated, prices jumped to that 50 to 70-cent range.
What the data show is that the Civil War's disruption of cotton supply greatly increased the price, but it fell back again when the war (and slavery) ended. And it has not increased much since then. In fact, if you take account of inflation, cotton is cheaper now than it's ever been. No doubt the price of cotton in the 1800's would have been higher if not for slaves, but the biggest driver of falling prices over time has been better technology. The cotton gin was not a one-off invention, it was subject to many improvements over the years. There's also been increasing automation in the industry to the point where very few people are now involved in producing more cotton than ever.
So any benefit that nonwhites obtained via lower cotton prices from the institution of slavery has long since disappeared. And if you want to argue that slavery destroyed black culture and families and is thus responsible for blacks lower incomes today, you have to explain (i) why the African nations from which slaves were taken aren't doing very well economically, and (ii) why black families were stable and black incomes were gaining on white incomes up until the advent of the welfare state in the late 1960's. Thomas Sowell has written quite a bit about this.
OK, Crack, you can call me a racist now.
todd galle said...
"Narr,
And often slaves brought to the Northern colonies were 'seasoned' in the Caribbean for six or so years before being traded to the Atlantic English colonies, as they had survived the various 'fevers' that befell newcomers to the Islands. Far more Africans died working, or being transported to the Spanish Main areas than any North American colonies. Can we get Spain and Portugal to put up reparations (or whatever they call it) money? Those two countries worked more Africans to death than any Atlantic Anglo colony, it is not debatable. If England hadn't insisted on the Assiento, they might have had cleaner hands."
Being sold to the sugar plantations in the Caribbean was a death sentence. But because they were so expensive and the running of a cotton or tobacco crop was so labor intensive blacks in America were generally treated better.
"They'll get a bunch of armed white guys with fat guts ...."
Come on man, that's hitting close to home.
Historical facts are historical facts, Crack.
Deal with it.
Narr
Call me anything you please
This drives me insane. No borders. Insane.
Jeff said...
Crack is maintaining that if you wear cotton, you have somehow exploited black slaves.
I said no such thing. Crack is maintaining you guys read shit, misinterpret it, and then fire at will.
Racists.
I keep telling you, you're not smart people.
You make wrong assumptions on a regular basis, and call that the truth, because you only talk to other whites - who are as stupid as you are - so they can't correct you.
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