February 8, 2021

"[I]nsisting on this taboo [of the n-word] makes it look like black people are numb to the difference between usage and reference, vague on the notion of meta, given to overgeneralization rather than to making distinctions."

"To wit, to get [NYT reporter Donald] McNeil fired for using the N-word to refer to it makes black people look dumb. And not just to the Twitter trollers who will be nasty enough to actually write it down. Non-black people are thinking it nationwide and keeping it to themselves. Frankly, the illogic in this approach to the N-word is so obvious to anyone who does make distinctions that the only question is why people would not look on and guiltily wonder whether the idea that black people are less intellectually gifted is true."


We talked about the ousting of McNeil a couple days ago, here. I commented on the loss of the old "use/mention" distinction. McWhorter is adding something important: Those who have rejected the distinction are perpetuating — and maybe even relying on — a racist stereotype. I hasten to add that McWhorter doesn't say "racist," "racism," or "stereotype." He says that those who've made it taboo to say the n-word — even just to refer to it — are making it "look like" they think black people are too dumb to understand the distinction. 

Why don't those who believe racism is pervasive feel compelled to analyze the racism in their own efforts to fight racism? Surely, their meaning well isn't enough. McWhorter is pointing out a background belief that is reflected in the ban on merely saying the "sequence of sounds" that is the n-word. If that isn't a call to do more "work" understanding systemic racism, then the game of critical race theory is rigged.

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rhhardin said...

Another nice example of virtue that goes public is Mitt Romney.

It's universally corrupting.

mikee said...

Skippy T: Here's a better reference to SNL and the N-word.

Anonymous said...

I don't use the word "niggardly" because who needs the shit, amirite?

Skippy Tisdale said...

As a group, of course it's true.

I saw a fascinating study on PBS:

In an experiment reminiscent of A Clockwork Orange, researchers trained male mice to fear a cherry blossom-like scent called acetophenone by inducing slight electric shocks every time the smell wafted into the animals' cages. After ten days of this treatment, whenever cherry blossoms were in the air, they report, the mice trained to fear it went on edge. The researchers found that those mice developed more smell receptors associated with that particular scent, which allowed them to detect it at lower concentrations. Additionally, when researchers examined those males' sperm they found that the gene responsible for acetophenone detection was packaged differently compared to the same gene in control mice.

After imprinting those males with a fear of acetophenone, the researchers inseminated females with the scared mice's sperm. The baby mice never met their father, but those sired by a blossom-hating dad had more acetophenone smell receptors. Compared to pups born of other dads, most were also agitated when acetophenone filled the air. This same finding held true for those original males' grandpups.



So what we were supposed to walk away with was that these male rat offspring were violent due to their genetic-historical environment and through no fault of there own.

What I walked away with was the conclusion that these male rat offspring were now
irreparably, genetically retarded.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/baby-mice-can-inherit-fear-of-certain-smells-from-their-parents-180948096/

Mark said...

In an experiment reminiscent of A Clockwork Orange

Of course, that is exactly backward.

In a scene reminiscent of Pavlov's experiments with dogs, the movie A Clockwork Orange showed character Alex undergoing aversion therapy/conditioning.

Narr said...

Romanian TVEE guy rambles and repeats too much, even without the commercial interruptions.

Narr
I love the smell of acetophenone in the morning.

Meade said...

"I don't use the word "niggardly" because who needs the shit, amirite?"

Most Americans don't use the word, at least not unironically. It began to fall out of use 150 years ago, replaced by "miserly" and "stingy."

Unknown said...

The operative word here is "blasphemy," which did get people fired (and worse) back in the days when blasphemy accusations were used against non-comformists of all sorts. When the n-word is used by a white person, and then that person is canceled, it is retaliation for all of the centuries when Black people could not say what they really thought about white people. The harm that is done by the n-word is not the point; the point is that Black people and their allies now get to turn the tables and police white people's language. Just as religious authorities got to police the language of the ordinary faithful (or non-faithful). I say this in full sympathy for the SJW's who are doing the enforcing; note that they are pretty much all young people (student aged people) who don't yet have the agency to go out and make real change. They may sincerely believe that the use of the n-word by white people is, in-itself, harmful. But the real attraction is to the opportunity to even an old score, and I really can't fault them for that. It may be unwise, but it represents a very human desire to right old wrongs.

Rick said...

Night said...
A little bit of racism should be ok. Think of it as a vaccine.

Racism:
1. Old Fart racism is defined as being bigoted towards a culture based on skin color.
2. NKOB racism is in in the air. It's everywhere. If you white you blight.

Progressives talk version 2 about Conservatives who interpret it as version 1.


This misstates the problem. The definitions are not used exclusively in the way described. The left wants to use definition #2 to smear as many people as possible but also attach the opprobrium and consequences justified only by definition #1. It's the classic Motte and Bailey rhetoric.

Rusty said...

"If there was a special group with a special sensitivity about the word, I just felt bad that I didn't know about it before, and I would never use it again. That's the kind of ethics I learned as a child."
Your mother and mine must have gone to the same school. My mother, a real southern lady, told us never to use that word. It was an ugly word and only people of low character use it.

n.n said...

But the real attraction is to the opportunity to even an old score, and I really can't fault them for that

A Hutu/Tutsi cycle of retributive change motivated by real and perceived grievances, which invariably liberalizes and progresses with rabid diversity. Then there are the opportunistic vectors exploiting an opportunity and leverage to consolidate capital and control.

tim in vermont said...

Most Americans don't use the word, at least not unironically. It began to fall out of use 150 years ago, replaced by "miserly" and "stingy."

If I am searching for an obsolete 19th century word for cheep, I go with "parsimonious.”

stevew said...

Most Americans don't use the word, at least not unironically. It began to fall out of use 150 years ago, replaced by "miserly" and "stingy."

People that use "niggardly" do so to sound educated or to provoke. Miserly and stingy are good, parsimonious is better, but none can touch penurious.

tim in vermont said...

“penurious.”

Sorry, transphobic.

Amadeus 48 said...

"That said, I wonder how long before militants start calling out 'black' instead of 'Black' as a microaggression. Maybe even get some people cancelled because they used the lower case word.'

Further, will it be a microaggression to use "White" rather than "white" to describe a white person?

Skippy Tisdale said...

"That said, I wonder how long before militants start calling out 'black' instead of 'Black' as a microaggression. Maybe even get some people cancelled because they used the lower case word.'

Further, will it be a microaggression to use "White" rather than "white" to describe a white person?


Why do you hate N*****s?

Amadeus 48 said...

As to impecunious or penurious, there is always "skint". Very Brit.

tim in vermont said...

Impecunious still has legs, if you ask me.

Oso Negro said...

Blogger Unknown said...
"...it is retaliation for all of the centuries when Black people could not say what they really thought about white people."


How many generations have a right to grievance and retaliation, in your opinion?

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Amadeus 48,

Further, will it be a microaggression to use "White" rather than "white" to describe a white person?

Since the WaPo started capitalizing "White" three or four months back, I doubt it. Unless their newsroom staff decide to take offense. (Newsroom staff taking offense at anything renders the offending item instantly memory-holed; who knew?)

I don't think "penurious" means what you think it does. Or "impecunious," for that matter. These words describe someone who won't give money to someone -- not because he disdains the cause, but because he doesn't have the money. "Penury" is basically a synonym of "poverty." "Miserly" and "stingy" are rough synonyms of "niggardly," though. "Skint" (thanks, Amadeus 48!) is good; I always assumed it was a sort of contraction of "skinflint."

I am one of those tempted to use "niggardly" just because it annoys some people. Petty of me, I know, but also petty of them. There is no sense in appeasing people who can't see that the roots of the words are utterly different. My own example is (I think) Aragorn to Faramir in the last book of Lord of the Rings, where he says something like "No niggard are you." Was Tolkien a racist? Well, obviously he was, b/c the Orcs are obviously Blacks. And the Wargs probably pit bulls by this time :-)

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

I should've added that "skint" also means "broke." Cf. "penurious" again.

Amadeus 48 said...

"Since the WaPo started capitalizing "White" three or four months back,..."

Ah, but things change in newsrooms, don't they?

Doug said...

Old and Slow said: Maybe you should pay closer attention before attributing attitudes to other people.

Hey, she's a big girl; she can dispute the characterization if she wants. I notice she goes after other commenters who offend her sensibilities.

Maybe you're right, maybe I have must not have been paying attention to her posts decrying the use of the n-word, racist and misogynist lyrics and violent characterizations in urban "music". One of these days when I give a rat's ass, I'll do a search for posts in which she has decried the language of millionaires like Jay-Z and The Weekend. She gets after 'em pretty good, huh?

tim in vermont said...

"How many generations have a right to grievance and retaliation, in your opinion?”

The descendants of the Visigoths and the Romans finally got together and tried to conquer the world together after only a millennium and a half.

Kai Akker said...

Glenn Greenwald doesn't mince words about another stupid NYT reporter who claimed someone prominent used the word "retarded" in a really bad awful way in a private discussion. The stupid reporter then showed the photos of every person in this private chat. They had not objected to it! Godawful those creeps; cancel them too. Alas, per Greenwald, NYTer had almost nothing right about a discussion in which there was a reference to the Gamestop redditors' fondness for calling themselves redditor retards (as daskol and others mentioned here last week). OMG the end of the world.

The Greenwald piece is refreshing reading.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-journalistic-tattletale-and-censorship

Kai Akker said...

Excerpt:

Just take a second to ponder how infantile and despotic, in equal parts, all of this is. This NYT reporter used her platform to virtually jump out of her desk to run to the teacher and exclaim: he used the r word! This is what she tried for months to accomplish: to catch people in private communications using words that are prohibited or ideas that are banned to tell on them to the public. That she got it all wrong is arguably the least humiliating and pathetic aspect of all of this.

Marcus Bressler said...


"Google could delete this blog."

Says it all, doesn't it? The master's tools will never demolish the master's house.

Then you are nothing more than Google's House N-word.

THEOLDMAN

We knew you were a coward when you abstained from voting. No surprise with your "rules" and deletion(s).

Known Unknown said...

"Then you are nothing more than Google's House N-word."

ZING.

Interested Bystander said...

N-word sounds so childish, like something an adult would say in front of a child who doesn't read yet. I wonder if rational ordinary black people feel like they're being treated like children. Apparently they're used to it. The Democratic party has purported to believe they are too slow, stupid, incompetent, whatever to be able to go to the DMV and get an ID card. Asking them to get an ID is voter suppression.

A friend would tease me about saying "fricking" at work. He's ask me, "what does that word fricking really mean?" Saying "N-word" is like saying "fricking". We all know what it's in substitute of. Why not just use the word? Unless you call someone that with the intention of demeaning them or hurting their feelings it's just a combination of sounds, as the man says.

Interested Bystander said...

Note: When I was about 12 years old I got in an argument with a neighborhood kid who happened to be black. I pulled out the big guns and hit him hard with the word that shall not be uttered, ever. The second I saw the shock and pain in his face I knew I'd crossed a line. That was mid-1960s and I was only 12 but I knew from then on that I should never use that word in anger.

Now, if I were and English teacher and I was teaching Mark Twain and thought that reading a piece from "Huckleberry Finn" and quoted the text, that shouldn't be a terminatable offense. Quoting literature, or even lyrics from a rap song shouldn't get you fired. We need to shut the SJW clowns up before they devour our Western civilization...which is what they want.

Roughcoat said...

I know you're saying "disgust" because you think you can disqualify me as an elitist.

No, Ann that is not what I meant, and not what I thought. In my view, racism is bad manners, and the use of the n-word in conversation is the act of a disgusting, ill-mannered boor. I thought I was communicating that I was in sympathy to what I believed you felt about the the use of the n-word. I do not think of you an elitist, and it never entered my mind to disqualify you as an elitist.

Amadeus 48 said...

Marcus THE OLDMAN--"Then you are nothing more than Google's House N-word."

Dude, give it a rest. Everyone here is having fun giving their opinions in the absence of spelling out certain words. Everyone knows what everyone is talking about. Althouse isn't the problem with free expression. Google/Blogspot is the problem, although it is very clear that she personally won't tolerate the use of the actual "n word" for many reasons, including ones personal to her.

Althouse is a heroine of mine. Do you know what groupthink is like in a college town? Althouse has stood up for free speech and letting a lot of people speak their minds. And yes, folks, there are many committed social justice warriors in Madison who would like to see her shut down, or tarred and feathered, or both. She has gotten along great with us (at a cost to her and to Meade) because she enjoys it. She has posted on this blog every day for years and let various idiots make comments to their hearts' content.

You owe her an apology. Everyone knows her name. No one knows yours.

Marcus Bressler said...

For those who wish to see a portion of what I wrote early on this thread before The Coward of the Google deleted it, please refer to the poem "Incident" by Countee Cullen. That is, if you can bear to suffer the shock of reading a word that the Hostess will NOT permit. BTW, welcome back Mary Glynn.

THEOLDMAN

"Little Black Sambo" was about an Indian boy, not an African child. It became used as an insult and not shortly thereafter, The Little Golden Books deleted it from their catalogue, much like Disney's "Song of the South"

Hey, Althouse, just don't bring up such topics if you are afraid of losing your blog because of it. SMH

Marcus Bressler said...

Hey, Amadeus 40, go fuck yourself. I could care less if anyone knows my name. A brave person would take her Blog and go elsewhere. Stop making excuses for her, BetaBoi.

THEOLDMAN

Marcus Bressler said...

Hey, Amadeus 40, go fuck yourself. I could care less if anyone knows my name. A brave person would take her Blog and go elsewhere. Stop making excuses for her, BetaBoi.

THEOLDMAN

Amadeus 48 said...

"Little Black Sambo" was about an Indian boy, not an African child."

Yeah. I figured it out because of the tigers (heh) who ran around the tree until they turned into ghee.

There is an interesting Wikipedia article on the history of the story and various iterations of the book. The names of the characters have caused some controversy, and various illustrators have taken license with the essence of the story: Tigers! It's India!

Amadeus 48 said...

Well, Marcus, I think you are probably a bit more into onanism than I am, but you can cast your seed anywhere you want to--but watch out! God may come for you (See Genesis 38).

But when you finish, you may agree that one of the reasons that so many people are jerks on the internet is that they are not really accountable for their anger, sarcasm, and stupidity because they are essentially anonymous. And the way of the world on the internet is that unless you are doxxed, you can say any fool thing you want to without really having to live with it. Althouse is totally out there, as is Meade.

Put your real name on your posts, OLDMAN, and see if you like what comes your way. I bet you aren't like this face-to-face in real life.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

I ought to have explained that I have never read "Little Black Sambo," just eaten at the fast-food place once called "Sambo's" and now , IIRC, known as "Sam's." You can see, though, how someone hearing of "Little Black Sambo" might assume that Sambo was, well, Black.

These restaurants were in the South, too. There wasn't anything racist about them that I could see, though I was maybe five years old at the time. I do remember a great wall mural with a jungle and a tiger in it, and a little Black kid peeking through the reeds.

gpm said...

>>TCM broadcast "Blazing Saddles" two evenings ago in its featured Saturday time slot

I saw that on the schedule but unfortunately didn't manage to catch the broadcast. Not quite the "featured" spot in terms of the Saturday night "Essentials" spot, but just after. I find that Mel Brooks can be grating, but I would have liked to see that one again. It is *not* on the TCM On Demand list, which keeps a lot of the broadcasts available for at least a week or two after being on the main schedule.

--gpm

Bunkypotatohead said...

Best to just play it safe and don't make any blog entries about blacks. You never know what term Google might consider verboten next year.

ken in tx said...

I had a Black 6th grade student who was offended by the river Niger being on a map in my classroom. Someone had taught him to be offended by that, but did not teach him when NOT to be offended. BTW, my mother taught me not to use that word because we were better people than those who did use it--including Blacks who used it frequently. It has long been a virtue signal by Whites not to use it. It proves we're better./sarc

c365 said...

It's an offensive word.

The problem is we live in a society where there are a lot of offensive words that people have no problem saying. I think the Nword only marginally worse in terms of degrees in my mind compared to when I hear someone say the F-word.

I don't see either, either in reference or in emotive use. Both are offensive words to me. I'm equally "offended" when people take the Lord's name in vain. I don't do it.

When a person says any of the above swear words, I don't bristle, or clutch my pearls. I just find them all coarse for different reasons, and I think this particular person is clearly not careful with their words and doesn't realize how offensive that aspect of their character is.

Still can be a wonderful person I like to spend time or work with, etc.

It's childish to truly be offended to the point of suppression or cancelling, etc. over these words (assuming they're not acting out some offensive behavior when they use them).

I recognize that what's really happening is others are using their offense as a weapon to gain power and authority over others -- even if that other is an ally. Stalin had no problem killing his own. For a modern day Stalinist, taking your own down a notch or two to elevate yourself is just fine.

But remember, those tools and rules can be used against you. If you choose to enshrine offensive use of language as an overt behavior boundary policing, wait until others who are offended by blasphemy against Allah or Mohammed are sitting in judgeships across the country.

That day will come. Then you or future generations will finally discover the importance of free speech.

Marcus Bressler said...

Marcus Bressler
Tequesta FL

Come enjoy the sunshine. If you were to click on my avatar, all that information is on there (I did add my last name just now, but it was in my email address). I just did and found that I created this almost 14 years prior. So I did update it. I am not a keyboard warrior; I stand behind (or sometimes apologize for) the things I write and post. I use the sobriquet "THEOLDMAN" to remind myself that sometimes I am just an old curmudgeon ranting at the passing clouds. If you care to criticize me, rather than my opinion, you are welcome to a "fuck you". Have a blessed day.

THEOLDMAN

Tinderbox said...

The fact that Althouse doesn't slavishly toe the progressive line at all times will be enough for Google to eventually pull the plug on this blog.

Mary Beth said...

Did I just miss it or was it not reported originally that the complaining student is white? Being irrationally offended is bad but I can still understand how it might happen. I can't begin to understand being irrationally offended on behalf of other people to the degree that I would do something that would cost someone their job.

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