I'm pretty sure the NYT wants to help the Democrats, so anything that looks like advice to Trump not to do what he's doing should probably be translated into an expression of fear that it might work.
One might say that Trump's continued assertions about rigged elections keep Republican voters stirred up. They may get the idea that they need to win by enough to overcome the cheating. They may feel outraged that cheaters have been stealing elections and that it's crucial to fight back right now.
Alternatively, it might be that Trump doesn't mind losing the GOP majority in the Senate. He might prefer to fight his way back to power in 2024 with his party excluded from power. He'll be more of an outsider and able to attack everything in a much more interesting and theatrical way if we're not distracted by the day to day efforts of McConnell et al.
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Trump is not going to run in 2024.
Maybe the ratings on Trump television will be higher if the Democrats control the Senate the house and the presidency.
A focus on cheating will lead to more scrutiny of the process and the outcome of the runoff.
That's not good for the Dems.
BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe is right.
Althouse is continuing to play tiddlywinks & ignore the most amazing electoral moment in our lifetimes, denying us her expertise in courts and law on the matter, and now sending us off to the future to consider what will go on 4 years from now.
I theorize her friends in Madison have started to count more to her now than the distinct clarity she might offer on her blog. Sad.
The president's assertion obviously is "founded." That is to say, Trump does give a reason for his claim. Whether that reason is valid and holds up to logic and the law is another matter, but he's not just arbitrarily making the claim. Once upon a time, reporters might have delved into that a little, rather than just dismissing the assertion out of hand ("without evidence" one might say).
I am convinced Trump is trying to help the GOP lose the two seats in GA and, thus, turn over control of Congress and POTUS to the Democrats. Unlike others I think Trump is doing this to improve and further solidify his base of support with the voters, and position himself for his next thing. It doesn't hurt that he can also payback all the grin-fuckers in the GOP that didn't support him over the past four years - including McConnell and the rest.
It could simply be that he's making these assertions because they're true. There's always that.
Blocking the 2k by Mitch was a mistake I think, regarding the GA special senate elections.
My husband texted me early thurs morning wanting to know if the 1200$ had been deposited yet.
He doesn't follow politics at all. He's more focused on his day to day things that interest him. But yet he knew about the CARES act when it passed the house! I had to explain to him about the senate, and who was in control, and no, there wont be more money anytime soon.
Objecting to the 2k, even over Trump, by Mitch can't be good for the races in GA, from Mcconnell's perspective.
The man is high on his own supply.
Althouse wrote:
I'm pretty sure the NYT wants to help the Democrats,
This is a certainty. As always, look at the adjectives in the storyy. Why use the word "unfounded" to describe Trump's assertion that Georgia's senate votes were "Illegal and invalid."
Yet if you go to the actual tweet the NY Times hack refers to, https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1345149555390771201
Trump goes about as far as he can on Twitter to provide his claim with a foundation: Trump claims that election rules made by non-elected officials are unconstitutional and invalid.
Dumbest elites in history.
Stacy Abrams judge sister said no to removing illegal or dead voters from the rolls in GA.
Where is the expectation of recusal?
She did reverse herself, outside of the window where it would make any difference.
Trump wants the gop to win the senate races.
McConnell - I’m not so sure.
Seeing the cadaver that runs your state, any lingering doubt that it was stolen from walker, an addendum to chisholms reigm of terror.
Alternatively, it might be that Trump doesn't mind losing the GOP majority in the Senate. He might prefer to fight his way back to power in 2024 with his party excluded from power. He'll be more of an outsider and able to attack everything in a much more interesting and theatrical way if we're not distracted by the day to day efforts of McConnell et al.
That is an interesting notion; particularly when it is stated (as Althouse stated it) as a bland observation about Trump's personal style. As if it were a normal political strategy.
You could well be correct on this, Althouse; but if you are, then we Republicans who have been opposing Trump were right. He's destroyed the Party. Trump cam into office with a House majority, a Senate Majority, and Republican governorships all throughout the Midwest. And now the most significant things that Trump has done in the last four years is to have watched those majorities disappear, Republicans be turned into joke-fringe figures, populated his inner circle with nutjobs like Don Jr., Sidney Powell, Lin Wood and Rudy Giuliani, and stand on the figurative sidelines watching as 300,000 (and soon 400,000) dies in a pandemic.
The Trump indictments cannot come soon enough.
ignore the most amazing electoral moment in our lifetimes,
Been hearing that since 1980 at least
I am looking forward to Trumpism without Trump.
Trump has courage and good instincts and genuinely loves this country and its people. But he also has the impulse control of a 4 year old along with a few other faults which turns off a large portion of the electorate willing to go with the genuinely good policies of his administration.
Our elites really are corrupt incompetents. The woke brigade really are nuts and hate our country. We have been getting in wars we have no intention of winning, and Trump stopped that, at least reducing our involvement in every conflict he inherited. Our tariff and trade policies really do favor the elites over less skilled workers, and over Trump's administration for the first time in a very long time, real wages of less skilled workers rose in both absolute terms and relative to higher skilled workers.
So there is an opening here for a younger and more sane politician to take up these causes.
I’m with Tumujin and Occum.
Ah, the NYT, which I despise, detest, and TOTALLY distrust. (The WaPoo, too.)
The more that I read your comments, it seems more likely than not that Trump wants the GOP to lose in Georgia in order to keep your angst dialed to 11. Remember you are the product and the product must be kept very very angry and pissed off.
Melania needs new shoes.
It is important to remember that a Michigan "recount" in 2016 was called for by dems in Wayne County. It was noted that the ballot's collection vessels were NOT SEALED in accordance with the election procedures. This nullified the votes for recount. Chuck's angels had to cancel and slink away in silence. Cheating has been going on foe some time. How long? Who knows for sure, but MI A.G. threatened 2020 vote challengers with legal action. To think that she was thereby "Upholding the Constitution".
I'm hardly convinced Biden wants the Democrats to win.
Chuck- the 'Party' you refer to, no longer represents Conservatives. I'm not sure who they represent anymore other than themselves. I used to bristle at the reference to Country Club Republicans. Now I think the party has split into two sects: Country Club Republicans, of which you are apparently enamored, and Middle Class/Working Republicans, who followed Trump, not because of his eloquent speaking style or subtle tweets, but because he actually spoke Truth to Power.
He dismantled the Conventional Expert Knowledge about the Middle East, China, Russia, Iran, and so many others. He did the same domestically by ripping up the scores of regulations that do nothing other than build nice lifelong careers for bureaucrats. He shone a light on our corrupt State Department, DOJ, FBI, CIA, and our entire permanent governing class.
We will never be able to thank him enough for doing all of that.
Oh yes, he also managed to corral business and government to create a vaccine in less than a year for a virus the world had never seen. Obama would still be having meetings to appoint a Blue Ribbon Panel to figure it all out.
Trump actually took on the actual power in Washington and around the world (WHO, UN, etc.) Truth to Power indeed. The Left wouldn't know the truth from a pronoun. And the Country Club Republicans- you were done with Gerald Ford. Some of you still don't get it. 74 million are telling you to leave now. And take your things with you.
With Fox moving left, Trump has a huge opening to expose the swamp more via a media outlet such as newsmax or OAN. If he is a regular or even runs some of the programming he’ll be a formidable opponent that can’t be silenced.
On Wednesday the Georgia state senate judiciary unanimously passed a resolution to decertify Georgia's presidential election results.
All democrats and all repos voted to decertify.
John Henry
Now we are back to the corrupt Obama years. Insider deals, bullshit, lies, crap, more lies, insider wealth and insider deals... cash for clunker green new deal for leftist and their cronies, mega bucks for speech stomping tech oligarchs and the corrupt old guard democrats like john Kerry, The Clinton corruption machine, the Biden and Pelosi family international grifters.
Chuck is thrilled.
Bubble "news" for bubble dwellers. Georgia Republicans are unlikely to be hanging on the words of the nation's most notorious ponces, next to CNN, for the Dems. They will print anything, discredited or not, that might damage Republicans.
Hugh Hewitt has asserted for decades that Republicans must win by enough that "they cant steal it. " Hopefully, Georgians will remember to do that.
As an aside, these two Senate candidates are startling douchenozzles even for the party that fielded Biden and Roundheels. Once Tulsi goes it will be impossible to think of any ruling class Democrat worthy of respect.
Exceptions will be considered.
Temujin,
"And the Country Club Republicans- you were done with Gerald Ford."
Unfair to Gerald Ford, I think. And what was Bush 41 if not a country club Republican?
Still, I largely agree with you. I'd given up on the Republican Party before Trump came along, believing as you say that it had become two parties, one espousing limited government based on sound principles, and the other happy to sell out those principles to take care of itself and its friends. It campaigned as the first and governed, at the federal level, as the second.
"unfounded" assertion! Does this mean that the Enemy is backing off of "baseless" altogether, or are their highly-qualified trollmasters just trying to reduce the echo-chamber effect you get when a dozen mindless trolls all bray the same weaponized hate-phrases at once? Keep reading their lies and drivel, and let us know how it comes out. OK, Racist?
The vaccine was designed two days after a Chinese scientist released the covid-19 genome. Trump had nothing to do with it. The rollout is going slow as molasses with the vaccine is that biden's fault?
Is it true that the character Bluto Blutarski from the movie Animal House was patterned after Joe Biden?
I predict a GOP sweep in Georgia for the Senate runoffs because I think the Republicans in that state have got the memo that they need to have a top of the line ground game and get their people to the polls. You know, work hard for your cause to achieve results.
JPS- Both Bush's were country club Republicans, 41 most definitely. My point was that that type of Republican started to lose their grip on the rank and file around the time of Gerald Ford. Not knocking Ford. He was a man of his time. However, from Bush 43, to McCain to Romney- that crowd, and the representatives and Senators (Jeff Flake) they inspired, the party has lost its connection with those who actually vote Republican, and even more with those (like me) who vote against Democrats more than voting for Republicans.
No they didnt have anyone that atupid at dartmouth'62.
Pluto was John Belushi you ignoramus. Besides I don't think Joe Biden was ever that intelligent or thoughtful. I would say if anyone in animal House represented Joe Biden it would have been the character Hoover.
'Unfounded" usually means "goes against the Hive party line."
I went to the real Dartmouth last November it was a 70° day. it was the most beautiful college town I've ever seen. Overflowing with beautiful young women wearing shorts and tank tops. At my age I'm used to looking at the low hanging fruit.
Chuck said...
we Republicans who have been opposing Trump were right. He's destroyed the Party.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Many of us see it as one of his best accomplishments.
John Henry
Stevew is right. Trump is getting out of the car at gunpoint and hopes the carjackers will wrap the machine and themselves around a tree at 185mph. What’s left at the scene will not be recognizable.
"Then get the fuck out. You hate the Republican Party so much? Leave it. Make your own Party."
Now that's the way for the Party to bring back wavering voters, Chuck.
I'm the customer. If I don't like what they're selling, it's not my job to break into their business and do it better. They want my vote. When I think they're doing a good job, or making a good case that they will, they get it. If they want to curse me for choosing not to buy, it doesn't exactly inspire regret for my choice.
Chuck @ 9:14 displaying the really big "D" in TDSers, illustrating why normal people choose not to be among them.
Paul Ryan had nothing to do with the loss of the House./s Democrats like Cuomo, Murphy, Newsome and Biden have demonstrated strategies to keep Covid deaths down./s Right, Chuck?
Oh well, at least the demented leftists posting here are relatively articulate.
Joe reminds me of Bluto. Not Pluto, who is a dog.
Howard, 9:53:
"Pluto was John Belushi you ignoramus."
Bluto, dammit! Pluto is a dog, or an unfairly demoted planet, depending on context.
Corporate america doesnt believe in america anymore they believe in 57 gender systemic racism global warming
Chuck,
You're an asshole.
Also, Trump didn't destroy the party, just gave a powerful voice to what a lot of us have seen for many years. The Republicans had turned into Democrat Lite - too many Chucks in the party, and they need to be purged.
The who has abolished herd imminunity to empoverish the 80% of small business that are still atanding but not forlong.
The Iraq War, Wall Street Bailouts, Open Borders, Mitt Romney.
The GOP was moribund at the presidential level before Trump.
Obama’s overreach led to a GOP Congress. They were a check on Obama. But nobody wanted their legislation. Their ideas are terrible: Iraq War, Wall Street Bailouts, Open Borders.
The Chuck Party is dead and gone.
It always struck me as odd that a mouse would have a dog as a pet.
The American political system and the laws associated with it are set up to make the two party system impregnable while at the same time making each party relatively defenseless against being taken over. So to those such as Chuck demanding that Trump followers leave, the answer should simply be "No. It's our party now. Come and take it if you can."
But in the end, you have to build a sufficient sized coalition to actually win elections. Trumpism without Trump might be able to do that.
How the @#$& did Collins lose to Loeffler? I don’t know about Perdues chances, but it won’t surprise me a bit if Loeffler loses to Warlock. Aside from the damage that will be done if both Communists win, Loefflers explanation of her stock trades around covid never seemed to satisfy me, and for that reason I say....goodbye and good riddance Kelly.
If lawmakers can’t separate themselves entirely from their portfolio moves then they have no fucking business in DC. PERIOD!!
Jersey Fled said...
Joe reminds me of Bluto.
Bluto Blutarsky was 10 times more likeable and competent than Joe Biden.
They are eloi, you see how quickly thet surrendered to susan rosenbergs extortion scheme. Captain pikes choice for minitrue will institutionalize the 1619 project granholm will shut down the pipelines so youll roast in the summer and freeze in the winter. No institution will be safe to the revolutionary blade.
Try to run railroads, factories et al without coal or gas, run tractors witbout either. Loeffler and co were briefed with ferguson flawed models so they panicked. Giving mahers desired recession.
Blogger Chuck said...
Then get the fuck out. You hate the Republican Party so much? Leave it. Make your own Party. I liked the Party quite a lot, before Trump started losing elections.
Tory bastard
Insider trading is actually a social good. It moves the stock price closer to what it should be more quickly.
The insider that bought your shares before you knew they would go up nevertheless gave you a better price than you would have gotten if he'd sat idle as the law requires.
“I am looking forward to Trumpism without Trump.
Trump has courage and good instincts and genuinely loves this country and its people. But he also has the impulse control of a 4 year old along with a few other faults which turns off a large portion of the electorate willing to go with the genuinely good policies of his administration.”
I don’t think Trumpism survives sans Trump. We live in the era of the cult of personality, and even though you don’t like Trump’s—and I share some of your reservations—he appeals to a lot of people who are not you. During the 2016 election I bemoaned they fact that Trump was the nominee, thinking that any other republican could beat Hillary and Trump was sure to lose. I was wrong, and I came to believe that Trump was in fact the only Republican who could have beaten her. Without a point man to express and fight for the principles of Trumpism (and who would take up the mantle? who drive home the concepts without fear of saying the wrong thing, without regard to impulse control?) I say it sputters and dies.
Chuck: "Y'all got small family farms, deer hunters, auto mechanics, country music, and a few churches. It's just like 1861." 9:52 AM
Ah, the "bitter clinger" meme. The effete Republican(?) elite echoing the not so effete Democrat elite.
Chuck speaks longingly of a party that represents no one of political significance.
havent we gone thru this with Throckmorton?
...fraud vitiates everything-- yes? no?
Trump does not want the dem's to have near unchecked power while he is in the Wilderness. it is too dangerous. the dem's have already told us what they intend to do: 1)eliminate the filibuster, 2)pack the supreme court, 3) fast-track the legalization of approximately 15million illegal immigrants.
thus, thereafter America can run the cleanest fairest elections in the world and the democrats will win every vote with the new citizens voting 9 to 1, 8 to 1 for the dem's. america will be a one-party socialist state with an irrelevant judiciary. the balance of powers gone. something like total victory. today's dems are nothing like the dem's of 20 yrs ago. Trump knows all this.
Right now, "Blue America" possesses all of the levers of corporate power, international finance, agribusiness, technology, advanced manufacturing of aircraft and vehicles, academic institutions, etc.
Y'all got small family farms, deer hunters, auto mechanics, country music, and a few churches. It's just like 1861.
Don't forget all the food, water and energy.
The notion that the remedy to 2020 electoral fraud is more, better "ground game" is irritating. The emphasis on this GA election seems like so much interior redesign on a great big sinking ship. Knock yourselves out down there in GA, I guess. I'm going for tacos.
McConnell,himself, is trying to become the minority leading - it's more profitable for him and his family.
Nobody pays attention to Trump's tweets like The Times does. I see that the tweet could damage Republicans' chances, but I don't think voters focus so intently on every tweet as the media does.
"Specific evidence": how "specific," how "granular" does it have to be? Do you have to specify just exactly which ballots are to be excluded? Can any evidence really be "specific" enough to satisfy the skeptics (or are they the believers and the others the skeptics?).
Georgia really sucks, doesn't it? Florida, New Jersey and every other state that gets a hard time should be sending the Peach State a complimentary fruit basket to console the state (and to rub it in a little): "You thought you stopped being a laughingstock when the country voted out Carter, huh?"
Republicans still control many governorships and state legislatures and Democrat governors like Cuomo, Newsom, Pritzker and Whitmer aren't doing so well (On Pritzker, on Whitmer, on Cuomo and Newsom ...). The GOP also made a comeback in the House after the disastrous 2018 election. And it was COVID more than anything else that hurt Trump in the election.
Southern braggadocio in 1860 was madness, but Northern braggadocio wasn't much better. That war was a disaster, as would be any breaking up of the country now.
Trump's biggest draw was not his policies, but his willingness to stand up for "the small family farms, deer hunters, auto mechanics, country music, and a few churches" against "the establishment" (which includes LLRs)
It will take someone who can do that with sincerity. Ted Cruz, Dan Crenshaw, Ric Grenell, or Kristi Noem seem like the best choices. Arguably Nikki Haley.
Right now, "Blue America" possesses all of the levers of corporate power, international finance, agribusiness, technology, advanced manufacturing of aircraft and vehicles, academic institutions, etc.
Y'all got small family farms, deer hunters, auto mechanics, country music, and a few churches. It's just like 1861.
Don't forget all the food, water and energy.
If it came down to a fight, 80% of the military would be on our side.
It always struck me as odd that a mouse would have a dog as a pet.
He didn't; it's worse than that. Pluto belonged to Goofy. So a dog had a dog for a pet.
Blogger exhelodrvr1 said...
Trump's biggest draw was not his policies, but his willingness to stand up for "the small family farms, deer hunters, auto mechanics, country music, and a few churches" against "the establishment" (which includes LLRs)
It will take someone who can do that with sincerity. Ted Cruz, Dan Crenshaw, Ric Grenell, or Kristi Noem seem like the best choices. Arguably Nikki Haley.
1/2/21, 11:06 AM
Maybe Ron Desantis.
Did you hear about Mickey's divorce?
In the courtroom, the judge put Mickey on the stand:
Judge: So I understand you want a divorce?
Mickey: Yes your honor.
Judge: It says here you want it because your wife is crazy?
Mickey: No your honor. I want a divorce because she's fucking Goofy.
Harsh Pencil,
Agree - Desantis would be good, too.
Blogger Mrs. X said...
I don’t think Trumpism survives sans Trump. We live in the era of the cult of personality, and even though you don’t like Trump’s—and I share some of your reservations—he appeals to a lot of people who are not you. During the 2016 election I bemoaned they fact that Trump was the nominee, thinking that any other republican could beat Hillary and Trump was sure to lose. I was wrong, and I came to believe that Trump was in fact the only Republican who could have beaten her. Without a point man to express and fight for the principles of Trumpism (and who would take up the mantle? who drive home the concepts without fear of saying the wrong thing, without regard to impulse control?) I say it sputters and dies.
1/2/21, 10:25 AM
You may very well be correct. But Trumpism with Trump is also a dead end. Even with fraud taken into account, I doubt Trump won a majority of votes nationwide, or could have with a different campaign strategy. Pulling inside straights in the Electoral College isn't a long term winning strategy.
The rollout is going slow as molasses with the vaccine is that biden's fault?
My god are you stupid. First of all, 'biden" is a proper noun and should be capitalized. Second, the roll-outs are implemented by the states, not the federal government. Here in Minnesota, the federal government has provide a million doses of the vaccine, we have it in hand, but for some reason our deep-blue, Democratically run state just can't seem to get it distributed to our citizens.
I have two suggestions for you.
1) Take a basic logic class.
2) Go away until you have done so.
Chuck is now a "you must denounce or face blackmail" leftist.
F U.
Melania may or may not need new shoes, but you, Howard, need to get A Life.
Chuck - your Party - the Democrats - are old aging power-mongering, money grubbing, international pay to play criminals.
Denounce Nancy and Biden - or you support corruption.
Unfortunately for the LLRs Trump IS the republican party. You want to run as a Republican your message better resonate with 76 million people or your going to lose. LLRs are on the wrong side of history.
It always struck me as odd that a mouse would have a dog as a pet.
Dogs tend to be nonjudgmental.
"He didn't; it's worse than that. Pluto belonged to Goofy. So a dog had a dog for a pet."
Nobody knoooows the trouble I seen...
Was Pluto at least a house dog?
Ted Cruz now says he will challenge the electors as well, in an attempt to pander to the Trump crowd.
Pretty clear that there was significant (in terms of the impact, not necessarily in terms of vote %) fraud with the election. Also seems pretty clear that there will be no way, at this point, to prove it. But it's important to keep hammering the issue in the hope that there will be reforms to the processes for future elections
Sorry, meant to post the If by whiskey in the booze thread.
John Henry
Trump will run for president in 2024 but from the inside of a NY prison cell.
And, he’ll likely win in a fair election.
But, we’ll never again have a fair election. If the Dems take the senate, it’s game over.
The court will be packed. Commerce and healthcare will be socialized and our fair share rationed according to class. Our guns and ammo will be regulated, taxed, banned, and, eventually confiscated. Our elections will be 100% mail-in. We’ll have endless war oversees. Our police will be militarized. Speech will be banned. Innocents will be canceled. And we’ll be taxed into poverty - all for our own good.
I suggest we prepare for one party rule by a party that absolutely hates people living in 90% of the country.
Blogger Mark said...
Ted Cruz now says he will challenge the electors as well, in an attempt to pander to the Trump crowd.
Yeah. Cuz no democrat would ever challenge republican electors. Unless they were named Trump or Bush (1 & 2)
John Henry
The problem is not that we can't prove fraud. It's been proven a hundred times over by any previous standard. I can't even imagine what other proof could possibly exist that we don't already have.
The problem is corrupt election officials who enabled the fraud and corrupt complicit judges dismissing on technicalities so that no jury can hear that evidence.
Allende pulled the same shit.
We're very quickly getting to the point that our only option will be an American Pinochet. And I hope he's a ruthless son of a bitch. Dropping from helicopters is way way too good for these vermin.
So there is an opening here for a younger and more sane politician to take up these causes.
Sure that would be great, but how does anybody but Trump survive the social media bans, fundraising de-platformings and media blackouts?
Blogger Skippy Tisdale said...
Here in Minnesota, the federal government has provide a million doses of the vaccine, we have it in hand, but for some reason our deep-blue, Democratically run state just can't seem to get it distributed to our citizens.
In California they are supposed to be giving it to health professionals first but something like 50% of them are refusing to get it.
And this (H/T Gateway Pundit):
As the coronavirus vaccine dribbles out far more slowly than promised, many of the people who can get it are refusing to do so.
Gov. Mike DeWine on Wednesday said that a whopping 60% of nursing home workers who have been offered the vaccine have refused it.
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2020/12/30/60-of-ohio-nursing-home-workers-refuse-vaccine/
The article obfuscates a bit but it sounds like Ohio has received almost 600m doses but has administered less than 100m
The article also says:
11.4 million doses have been sent to states and just 2.1 million people have received a first dose,
For the worriers, my DIL got it at work (hospital) and she is not dead yet. At least as of last night.
John Henry
Blogger Tom said...
Trump will run for president in 2024 but from the inside of a NY prison cell.
What's the crime he will be convicted of?
Much as you might wish it, OrangeManBad does not appear in any criminal code.
John Henry
Trump is not going to run in 2024.
Exactly. Why fucking bother?
The Pinochet helicopter meme -- anybody who uses it deserves to get dropped themselves. Very poor taste.
A 90+ percent approval rating amongst Republicans and certain assholes think Trump destroyed the party.
No. Exposed shitheads like you for what you've always been: A Democrat.
It's vastly amusing to see people plotting out a 2022 election before the last one has even finished cooling. But I'm going to take some time to explain a certain type of mentality in the Republican Party, best exemplified by the Mike Bloombergs, David Frums, and Ben Shapiros. There are similar mentalities in this thread. You can call them IYIs in the Taleb style, shysters, Cainites, or other terms as you like. They tend to look down savagely on the Republican base, such as the infantry corporals and rural farmers, for multiple reasons:
1) These people are far too stupid to even contemplate the skills required to be a member of the working class in the modern era, much less actually possess any of these skills. It's understandable to be narrowly focused, technically, but most paper-pushers and Powerpoint fans don't have any technical skills worth talking about.
2) They can't believe how gullible the working class is, particularly parts of the evangelical base, and take inordinate amounts of pleasure in stealing from them. Grabbling up the money, if you will.
3) Intense hatred and arrogance is a critical factor in maintaining the mindset and privileges of a decadent elite which is not only useless, but harmful to the interests of the working class.
4) They are PROFOUNDLY unpopular with the left and right of the American proletariat, yet they'll actually be surprised when mobs break into their Van Buren mansions to tear them limb from limb. So there's a certain level of resentment for not being popular enough with the proles.
5) They are generally a tiny minority who haven't actually studied the lessons of colonialism, and don't realize that they're the elevated natives who will be expropriated and horribly butchered as the native population reasserts control. Examples of this historically are the Tutsis, and the Tamils.
They have other points in common, but these will do for now. I don't believe that the Georgia elections will matter in the historical sense- I personally believe Stacey Abrams when she says she's had a phenomenally successful vote drive, while the Republican Party is going to have smaller turnout for multiple reasons. But when two nations- or one nation and a grab bag of diversity hires- are too alien to live together, electoral politics cease to be uniting. Prepare or not, as you will. Reality will find you soon enough. You may find yourself wishing for the relative benevolence of a Pinochet.
"I'm pretty sure the NYT wants to help the Democrats, so anything that looks like advice to Trump not to do what he's doing should probably be translated into an expression of fear that it might work."
Indeed. So with all concern trolling from the Hive.
To settle the debate once and for all, Yahoo Entertainment took the query straight to the source: actor Bill Farmer, the Disney Legend who has been the voice of Goofy since 1987 and also stars in the new Disney+ reality series, It’s a Dog’s Life.
“He is not a dog,” Farmer tells us, with absolute authority. “Pluto is a dog, but Goofy seems to be in the canine family in the same way that a wolf is not a dog, but they also are in the canine family. I think Canis Goofus is the technical Latin term for what Goofy is. He’s just Goofy.”
But there's also this theory:
Hah! This old, timeless question. There’s a dark theory that Pluto is some type of mentally disabled individual and this is just how such people are treated in the Disney world.
I think she may have gotten that the other way around. Anyway, food for thought.
"The Pinochet helicopter meme -- anybody who uses it deserves to get dropped themselves. Very poor taste."
Yes, indeed, let us not violate the norms of good taste during this communist takeover. Pray thee we all exercise the most delicate of manners on our journey to the gulags. Hell, we're practically all safely in our gulags already, we just mostly own them. For now.
Besides, I said helicopters would be too good for them. I would *much* prefer the public humiliation and scorn that would come with a fair trial with fully transparent evidence followed by public televised firing squad and/or hanging (I vote their choice. I'm a giver.).
But if
If you'd rather me exercise good taste, though, fine. I give you the opportunity to give me a historical example of a country where communists took power via election fraud where they did not keep that power in perpetuity, save for Pinochet's Chile. Which remained the most prosperous country in South America for decades after he held free and fair elections, lost, and stepped down peacefully, btw.
And, for the record, the only sources of "evidence" that Pinochet directly ever endorsed or ordered the helicopter thing were leftist propaganda sources. I don't think he ordered them, I think he was forced to hire mercenaries to put down the violent communist insurgency and they weren't over concerned with displaying good taste either. I don't want the American Pinochet to order such things directly either, but we will need men capable of doing such things, because that sort naturally flocks to the Left, the sort willing to kill and no natural respect for rule of law.
But you're right. Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who. I just hope for your sake you don't live in a nursing home in NY, PA, NJ or MI.
Current score: 40,000+ to 3.
RIP Paul Westphal... all around good man.
Qwinn said...
I don't want the American Pinochet to order such things directly either, but we will need men capable of doing such things, because that sort naturally flocks to the Left, the sort willing to kill and no natural respect for rule of law.
1/2/21, 2:40 PM
Oh, don't be like that. As an execution method it's far more certain than lethal injection cocktails, which can be threatened by a lack of ingredients or sabotaged mixing. Pinochet was merciful (too much so, some might say), and was far more benevolent towards his enemies than any leftist takeover of the 20th century. The communists have never forgiven him for it.
Just tell the haters to get dropped.
I promise I will give those who intentionally directly murdered tens of thousands of victims in blue state nursing homes in hardly a less efficient manner than bullets would have been, forcibly separated from their families and forced to die alone and terrified, with an empty USS Comfort and Javitz Center (promptly delivered by Trump) sitting right next door, all the manners and good taste they have showed their victims.
I keep bringing them up, and not one of our lefty poster ever responds to it. Ever. Literal mass murder needs no defense.
I just hope for your sake you don't live in a nursing home in NY, PA, NJ or MI.
Planned Parent/hood. Also, denying and stigmatizing inexpensive, effective, low-risk early treatments that reduce hospitalization and deaths by 80 to 90%, and since early summer by 90 to 100%. Then there is the collateral damage from cargo cult-inspired restrictions.
"Trump has courage and good instincts and genuinely loves this country and its people. But he also has the impulse control of a 4 year old along with a few other faults which turns off a large portion of the electorate willing to go with the genuinely good policies of his administration."
If you are willing to overlook genuinely good policies because you don't like mean tweets, you're the superficial one. Maybe you need to get your shit together before heading out in the world to criticize others. You know- the ones with genuinely good policies.
I knew South Americans who lived through those years. I wouldn't wish experiences like they had on anybody or any country. And how did it all end up for Pinochet? Not very well. He was lucky he died when he did.
What people who relish civil war or "helicopter rides" don't get is that the country hates or will hate them as much as anybody they oppose. If the country breaks up, there won't be any heroes. We will just be regarded as a generation of morons who let everything fall to pieces.
Incidentally, nothing Trump says is necessary right now for me (or I think most people on the Right) to remain "riled up". If anything, hope that Trump will pull something out of his ass in the nick of time is what's keeping the world from blowing up.
But even if Trump were to surrender tomorrow, it would be no different than if he fought to the last and lost. That's not going to make anyone forget what they know to be true - that this election was blatantly stolen, and there will be no later chances to fight for the Republic.
"We will just be regarded as a generation of morons who let everything fall to pieces."
That's inevitable. The only difference is, will we be the generation of morons that stood up against tyranny at the last, whether too late or not, or who never stood up at all?
illiberal democracies are a flawed instrument,
https://www.theepochtimes.com/more-than-400-ex-intelligence-officers-to-investigate-election-irregularities_3640420.html
Look, Lurker. The only thing we're demanding in order to stop any rumblings about Civil War is a verifiably free and fair election.
That's it. That would really do it. And no, I don't mean "See, the Republicans won Georgia! That proves no fraud!". No. It doesn't. That's not what "verifiably" means.
That that demand is considered so outrageous that even just an investigation of the election in McConnell's offer of $2000 checks is universally called a "poison pill" should be all you need to know about how this utterly reasonable demand is being treated.
In the fact of that, there *is* no alternative to Civil War. If you don't like it, get on the Left's case and get them to agree to a verifiably free and fair election, and get the fuck off *our* case.
Gahrie: "If it came down to a fight, 80% of the military would be on our side."
I used to believe that until I saw military personnel during Katrina enter private homes to confiscate .22 rifles from old ladies and the "thin blue line" capitulate to Dem loons and leave their cities ubdefended.
He knows the Dems have already counted the votes.
Robert Barnes was just banned from twitter.
@Barnes_Law doesn't exist.
John Henry 9:58 - Chuck: He's destroyed the Party.
John Henry: "Many of us see it as one of his best accomplishments."
Amen, brother.
Chuck: "Then get the fuck out. You hate the Republican Party so much? Leave it. Make your own Party."
Heh. Chuck thinks that's a threat. It's a helpful instruction. People who call themselves 'Democrats' or 'Republicans' are sick of this binary choice and these corrupt losers that rule us.
The pottery is about to be broken.
Why is Chuck still here?
I quite don't see that, some stragglers like mcsally didn't make it, but there were legislative victories even in solid blue states like colorado, even in new york and california,
"Hugh Hewitt has asserted
Funniest line of 2021 thus far.
Correction: Hacker took over the twitter account of Robert Barnes
1/2/21, 4:06 PM
Oh boo hoo hoo, people won't like us. They can't see the difference between Chile and Venezuela, which means they're likelier to get the latter than the former. Now that we've established that urbanites are spineless dweebs who will accept any chains placed on them, and that their blue economies can be shut down for months without millions dying, I think a lot of the country is ready to roll the dice.
I wonder, what do you get when you cross millions of mentally ill loners with a society that abandons them?
I'm ready to roll the dice.
Lurker said.
"What people who relish civil war or "helicopter rides" don't get is that the country hates or will hate them as much as anybody they oppose. If the country breaks up, there won't be any heroes. We will just be regarded as a generation of morons who let everything fall to pieces."
Yep. But in the end you'll know you've been in a fight. So if you can't stomach it, go stand somewhere else.
Blogger Marcus said...
Why is Chuck still here?
Actually, he is not. A ctrl-F search turns up 23 instances of people replying to his comments but no comments by him.
I suspect that, having declared him a "dick" and unwanted here, blog management deletes his notes as they see them.
But he's a real dick so keeps trying to post.
John Henry
If you think NYT “ advice to Trump is disingenuous, try Microsoft’s BS “news” that you see on the Bing main page. Pure commie propaganda.
This is what Trump supporters are fighting against...
"You'll Own Nothing. And You'll Be Happy!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQulGSF18OM
NO TO ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! NO TO ONE WORLD ECONOMY! NO TO ONE WORLD RELIGION!
I only post the "Why is Chuck still here?" question when I see one of his posts. Perhaps you are seeing the Chuck-free version of Althouse. If so, please send me the link so I too may enjoy the blog comments. TIA.
THEOLDMAN
Marcus, it also looks to me like he was censored.
I had a post deleted about a week ago. Not much of a free speech bastion here, more like Twitter.
Ah, the NYT! What can I say, but I despise, detest, and TOTALLY distrust the NYT...and the WaPoo, too. And the TV "news".
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