If they're not real, Biden would strongly, clearly assert that the emails are fake. What reason could there be to fail to make a clear assertion? I think the answer is that he knows it's an assertion that can be proven false, leaving him plainly exposed as an outrageous liar.This is key: it’s stunning Biden hasn’t even had to say if the emails are authentic.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) October 23, 2020
But there’s a resaon: journalists don’t want him to answer that because then they’ll lose their key excuse for not covering it (“not verified”) & their main defense of Biden (“disinformation”). https://t.co/t0H9E1lcpt
October 23, 2020
It's not stunning if you see the evasion as a tacit admission that the emails are authentic, and at this point isn't that the assumption nearly all of us have made?
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Biden depends on the left not finding out about it, which is possible owing to the very selective news broadcasts to women on the left.
Do you have a "duh" tag?
Being seen as an outrageous liar has not inhibited him from promising that under his "health plan" everyone can keep their own doctor and plan. That was "Lie of the Year" in 2014.
Half the country assumes this is Russian disinformation because it's 10 days to the election and they really don't want four more years of Trump.
It is stunning, if not surprising.
I believe parties to the emails have already confirmed their authenticity.
The media's refusal to even report the story is sickening.
Jim Treacher the other day made reference to what the NYT learned when it reached out to Hunter for comment, then followed up with something like "ha ha, just kidding, they've done no such thing."
Being exposed as a flagrant liar has never stopped Biden before. He racked up more lies last night than I've ever seen in a presidential debate. Really egregious whoppers.
Real or fake, the smart play for someone like Biden -- an old, doddering, mentally foggy Democrat -- is to just curtly dismiss it as debunked or as "Russian disinfo," and be a little indignant about it, and then let the media bros take care of it all. There may well be fake emails out there -- heck, the Democrats have an interest in there being at least some fake ones, so they probably are making easily disprovable fakes as we speak.
Biden has a cocoon of media protection surrounding him. When you're a Democrat, they let you get away with it.
The most important consideration is that Joe Biden will restore morality, normalcy and civility to our country's politics.
So have he, or any of the other "honest journos" on the overnight threads, asked? Did he/they get an answer?
Althouse, you are aiding and abetting this dangerous autocratic media by not voting against it.
Don't ask, don't tell.
Biden depends on the left not finding out about it, which is possible owing to the very selective news broadcasts to women on the left.
Which networks broadcast the Tony Bobulinski statement other than Fox?
None.
Yes, the computer is Hunter's, the emails are real, the Biden Family corruption is true.
Haul Biden into court for selling his office. I bet his dementia suddenly becomes incapacitating. Everyone knows it already is bad enough to be noticed.
Every person mentioned in the emails needs to be rounded up and crushed, ABSCAM-like. But forget about leaving junior officials in office but amenable to outside guidance, as was done with McCain. Stop them all from ever serving in or near government again.
"leaving him plainly exposed as an outrageous liar.
You mean, leaving him plainly exposed as an outrageous liar again.
I thought Althouse had established long ago, re Charlottesville, that Biden was an outrageous liar and therefore disqualified?
Anyway, the nastiest of Joe's lies is not his lying about Charlottesville or his school record or Hunter not making money in China or Obamacare not forcing people to lose their insurance. No, the nastiest is his persistent blaming of the "drunk" driver in the accident that killed his first wife. It shows the POS he really is.
Well, why not ask the FBI, which has had the hard drive for more than SIX MONTHS? Does that august agency consider the matter too inconsequential to study, or has it reached a conclusion that it is unwilling to share with other high apparatchiks in the Executive Branch. Either way it looks bad.
What's also remarkable, after all the leaks of the last many years, is that nobody in the FBI has dropped a dime to tip off his or her favorite "news" organization about any of this.
I don't think I'm the only citizen unwilling to vote for candidates who take bribes from other governments.
As the matter stands, Biden's defenders can say that Hunter is a sorry travail for a poor father, but Joe has not been shown to have benefited. And they are saying it. But they still prefer to pretend the e-mails have not been "verified", as they would rather offer flimsy claims to believe that indefensible proposition, than retreat to defending the idea that all those foreign scumbags were giving Hunter all that money, and getting nothing in return. Same as with the Clintons.
Let him take these journalists down with him.
"Nobody lost their private health insurance because of Obamacare."
"I Have never said I oppose fracking."
“We left him [Trump] a booming economy. And he caused the recession”
“No, I don’t support the Green New Deal. I support the Biden plan I put forward, which is different than what [Trump] calls the Green New Deal.”
“There was a peaceful protest in front of the White House (in Lafayette Square outside the White House). What did he do? He came out of his bunker, had the military do tear gas.”
“Close your eyes, try to remember the people coming out of the field with the torches, their veins bulging, spewing anti-Semitic bile, accompanied by the Ku Klux Klan. A young woman got killed. And they asked the president what he thought, and he said there were ‘very fine people on both sides.’ No president has ever said anything like that.”
At this point not voting for Trump is pure moral cowardice.
At best.
Maybe more accurate to say it should be stunning, but at this point we're all pretty numb to the fact that most journalists are partisan hacks.
The myth of Trump the Liar was destroyed by the avalanche of prevarication from Slow Joe last night. A stunning display of gaslightery!
rhhardin said...Biden depends on the left not finding out about it, which is possible owing to the very selective news broadcasts to women on the left.
I don't want to believe that, but I fear it is literally true; their Trump hatred is blinding them. To paraphrase Francis Bacon:
For what a woman had rather were true she more readily believes.
Glenn Grenwald?
I’m not so sure. Trump is very good at the ‘fake news!’ rejoinder which essentially terminates the conversation. I think it is hard for Biden to deny the voracity of the situation without coming off as sounding like trump. I think sticking with the Russia line is making the best of a bad situation: it’s the democrats equivalent of ‘fake news!’.
More than 50 senior intelligence officials have written an open letter:
“It is for all these reasons that we write to say that the arrival on the US poli<cal scene of emails purportedly belonging to Vice President Biden’s son Hunter, much of it related to his <me serving on the Board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, has all the classic earmarks of a Russian informa<on opera<on.
We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal aSorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.“
Ole Joe told the audience last night about this letter and just like that........it goes away.....magic.
The next 10 days will be enjoyable...smile everyone, and Make America Great Again!
"I thought Althouse had established long ago, re Charlottesville, that Biden was an outrageous liar..."
No one lies about everything.
Charlottesville is a case of Biden choosing to misstate or being dangerously ill informed. He says the lie, outright.
This post is about a choice not to state a thing, which I am inferring would be a lie. I'm attributing to him a choice NOT to lie, because he knows/fears that it would be demonstrated to be a lie.
With Charlottesville, he went ahead and said it and got traction for his egregious deceptiveness. He wanted to make progress for himself and it has more or less worked. The untruth is sitting out there, seeable by all, but misperceived by spectators who want to view Trump as a racist. That's a big problem.
But this Hunter thing is a different sort of problem. It's about what Biden himself has done and his ties to bad actions that will be extremely damaging to him if known. He's chosen a position of distance to take, and it's not a clear, strong denial. From that, we can make inferences.
This post isn't about diagnosing whether Biden is a liar, but about deducing whether the emails are authentic!
No one “lies about everything” but Noe gave the Biden family best effort last night. His true statements can be counted on one hand.
Joe is an outrageous liar.
Our unprofessional corrupt press want to drag his corrupt ass over the finish line.
How come we can't be as clever as the Russians? How did we ever win the Cold War? Has to have been a total fluke. Or maybe we didn't really win it, maybe that's a Russian disinformation campaign. I remember when Jimmy Carter advised us not
When it comes to Russia, I don't view Glenn Greenwald as a disinterested observer. See Snowden, Edward.
But I do view Joe Biden as a liar. His lips don't even have to move. By the way, does it look like he's had Botox? Maybe a skin peel. He's got that artificial sheen to his skin. Maybe it's the wrapping they're keeping him in between rollouts for campaign events.
"This post isn't about diagnosing whether Biden is a liar, but about deducing whether the emails are authentic!"
The important point here is the media.
Blogger Hunter said..."Maybe more accurate to say it should be stunning, but at this point we're all pretty numb to the fact that most journalists are partisan hacks."
Yes, sadly, that train left the station a long time ago. The danger is apparently half the country doesn't have a clue.
leaving him plainly exposed as an outrageous liar.
This is news? We've known since at least 1988 when he was forced to leave the race for president because of plagiarism and lying.
At this point not voting for Trump is pure moral cowardice.
Or defect.
You can deduce all you want. He's not answering to maintain the news blackout just as Greenwald points out. To anyone who gets news from the mainstream media or social media exclusively, and that's tens of millions of voters, this has never happened because they've never heard about it. His media allies know what to do without being told.
Anders Hagstrom
@Hagstrom_Anders
· Oct 22
This exchange between Trump and Lesley Stahl is insane. She repeatedly insists the Biden laptops “can’t be verified” so reporters shouldn’t talk about it.
Trump asks her why it can’t be verified.
Her answer: “Because it can’t be verified.”
Link
https://twitter.com/Hagstrom_Anders/status/1319314523162107905
Greenwald is a lot like Althouse.
Althouse: This post isn't about diagnosing whether Biden is a liar, but about deducing whether the emails are authentic!
If the FBI has had the laptop since December, is it imaginable that they would not investigate and authenticate?
If the emails were Russian disinformation, why would they be released when it seems pretty easy to expose the alleged fraud?
We are both a bit young to have seen Joe McCarthy's glory days, but doesn't the ongoing Russia Hoax strike you as similar? One difference is that there were Communist agents in US Government. It is just that McCarthy was a crazed alcoholic who saw commies under his bed. What is Adam Schiff's excuse?
I thought Althouse had established long ago, re Charlottesville, that Biden was an outrageous liar and therefore disqualified?
Her objection was not to lying. Obama was an outrageous liar and she still loves him. Her objection was that he was either too stupid to understand the difference between his assertion and the truth or he lied specifically to generate racial animosity.
Politicians more often than not figure out a way to get rich in public service. Politicians have also been known to stretch the truth during their campaigns. Biden is by no means the biggest liar or crook to run for President. He's a retail outlet. Hillary was a wholesaler.... What's new and disturbing is the way the press has gone out it way to cover for liars and crooks. There was some, albeit minimal, coverage of Hillary's fumbles......I don't know who will win the election, but I know that the press has lost. The broadcast journalists are hired based on their ability to look like earnest seekers of truth. (Charlie Rose really had that look down pat.) I don't mind them being combative and skeptical with Trump, but their tactful acquiescence and assistance as Biden shovels it has done them irreparable harm.
"With Charlottesville, he went ahead and said it and got traction for his egregious deceptiveness."
Egregious deceptiveness--huh, that's an interesting way to put it.
"He's chosen a position of distance to take, and it's not a clear, strong denial. From that, we can make inferences."
Well, yes, obviously.
"This post isn't about diagnosing whether Biden is a liar, but about deducing whether the emails are authentic!"
But my comment was about the closing line in the actual post, that if he were to do x, it would leave him exposed. The point being that, by any reasonable description of his record, he is already "exposed." Sure, claiming something false that's easily checkable would leave him more exposed, but it's not as if prior lies have haunted him.
Dems don't care. A few swing voters might, so keeping a lid on further obvious falsehood with MSM help for now is rational strategy, but after the election they can easily switch to yeah, so what, and whatcha gonna do about it.
That Tony Bubulinski seemed detailed and credible in his statement last night. Looked pretty confident in the phones he will hand over to the FBI. The lack of coverage, attempted censorship and blackout of the story seems pretty clear they all know the emails are real. More than likely it is not just Joe Biden’s hands that are dirty. Too bad we can’t trust our own FBI. We don’t even have a real press. They are crooks and cowards. Not ONE has peeled off to dive into the story. The emails are real. Even if Joe Biden confessed, there would be liberals that would say it’s a Russian disinformation campaign.
Readering: "Glenn Grenwald?"
Oh, that's right. (wink wink) We aren't supposed to know anyone who never bought into the russia collusion lies regardless of whether they are on the right or the left.
I keep forgetting that is part of your schtick.
Got it.
BTW, don't you think its just a bit early in the day to go Full Freder?
@AA
"But this Hunter thing is a different sort of problem. It's about what Biden himself has done and his ties to bad actions that will be extremely damaging to him if known."
Only partly correct. Let's say for argument sake that what's on the laptop is true. And let's also say the Joe never knew about any of it...deals leveraging the Biden name, Hunter smoking crack, Hunter and his nude/semi-nude 14-year-old niece.
I guarantee the Chinese government had access to all of it.
It could then be used as blackmail material and leverage of Joe after he's been elected.
Joe would be (even if unwittingly) a national security liability...
Question — when did gulianni first get the hard drive? I want to know how long he sat on it. I understand the fbi got it in 2019.
"This post is about a choice not to state a thing, which I am inferring would be a lie. I'm attributing to him a choice NOT to lie, because he knows/fears that it would be demonstrated to be a lie."
Sure -- what's he's not saying tells us that, in fact, the emails are real. But if they are real, then what he's doing amounts to a lie, in much the same way that Bill Clinton's having all those Dem women go out in front of the press and declare that they believe him when he says he didn't have sexual relations with Lewinsky. By simply saying nothing, Joe is not lying, but affirmatively pointing to others and saying, "look they those intelligence guys all think these emails are Russian disinformation," is as dishonest as a flat out denial. Worse, in fact, because (a) he actually misrepresented what the intelligence guys said (they say they don't know one way or the other if the emails are real); and (b) he's making fools of them in exactly the same way Clinton made fools of all those female subordinates.
Of course the emails are authentic! You don't get Big Media & Big Tech to throwaway whatever ragged, shit-stained remnants of integrity they have left over nothing! As the saying goes, they're "all in" with Biden. He just needs to keep weaseling around with his non-denial denials about a "smear campaign until the election is over and they'll keep covering for him. After that will come the quid pro quo.
The tape where Biden is laughing about the Billion dollars to Ukraine - if they don't "fire the prospector" (who is looking into corruption at Barisma) - they "have 6 hours" hahahahaha - "well son of a bitch" what do you know. hahahahaha so funny watching democrats partake in corruption right there in your face.
All that laughter is all you need to know about the good-ole boy network of government whores.
Most people will think it's false because all the networks say it is, they've won't believe Fox because everyone knows Fox is a right-wing network. Most people get their news from the liberal networks or online from Facebook and other liberal sources.
Ann,
If they're not real, Biden would strongly, clearly assert that the emails are fake. What reason could there be to fail to make a clear assertion? I think the answer is that he knows it's an assertion that can be proven false, leaving him plainly exposed as an outrageous liar.
That's not the only explanation. Remember the Rather/Bush/TANG "scandal"? One of Rather's points in the original broadcast was that he'd gone to the WH with his "documents" and they stonily replied that they could neither confirm nor deny anything about them. To Rather that was proof positive that he had got hold of something real. Of course, actually I imagine the WH staffers were going mad trying not to break out laughing at such an obvious fake.
Mind you, I don't think that's what happened here: The definitive showing that the early-70s "document" in question was typed on MS Word with default settings was put online by Charles Johnson within 24 hours, and the attempts to find ways that a TANG office at the time could, e.g., do superscripts quickly got more and more bizarre, whereas here all journalistic effort that has actually taken place confirms that the laptop was Hunter Biden's and that its contents were added by him. Still, it isn't literally impossible, only very, very unlikely.
Want evidence of how thoroughly the press has hid news from the American people?
Following that statement, Twitter lit up with a flurry of confused responses, as users thought the president meant that literal coyotes were smuggling people across the border.
How is it possible to be this ignorant? The press has done it's job well.
Agree with Althouse.
All *Biden* has to do to authenticate (or not) the emails is ask Hunter. The fact that he hasn't done that, and that nobody has even checked with Hunter, tells us a lot.
Trump never said about the Dossier, "Oh, let's wait to hear if it's true I went to Russia and peed on the Obama bed"
If this came out next week, it would be too late, but there is time to verify and that's been happening. It tells you a lot about our media today that Biden did all this stuff without much fear, expecting it to get burred just as it has. Such a professional group of assholes telling us what to think everyday.
Well, wow. Ain't that what almost all of the commenters here said about this a week ago? The lack of a denial of authenticity was basically a closed case for them being authentic.
The important thing is what this does to the a Biden administration. If he wins and it comes out, isn't it grounds for impeachment? Whether it comes out or not, if true, it seriously weakens any Biden administration. Our most dangerous enemies will have the President of the United States by the balls.
Obama and Biden did everything Trump has been accused of and much more. Despite finding dirt on Trump being the holy grail for journalists, government hacks, and lots of others, none has been found that includes any evidence at all.
Jupiter wrote:
"As the matter stands, Biden's defenders can say that Hunter is a sorry travail for a poor father, but Joe has not been shown to have benefited. And they are saying it."
There was a newspaper story, the blurb or which I saw on someone's twitter feed, that stated a review of documents found no investments made by Joe Biden into any of the companies mentioned in the e-mails released. I just laughed my ass off at that. That isn't how it works- the Bidens don't invest a dime into these ventures- they are just given salaries and stakes without having put up any of their own money.
Being an 'outrageous liar' is the least of his problems.
Besides things like bribery we have the possibility of TAX EVASION. The kind of thing that got Al Capone.
As the world churns. Sooner or later this will come out (if Trump wins.) If Biden wins it will be buried.
When the FBI first got the laptop, they were balls to the wall searching for Russian interference in US politics. What a find this laptop would have been for Schiff to parade around Washington if it were really “Russian disinformation."
"Readering said...
Glenn Grenwald?”
Doesn’t Althouse know that Glenn Greenwald has been denounced as a traitor to the Party?
Hunter said...
Maybe more accurate to say it should be stunning, but at this point we're all pretty numb to the fact that most journalists are partisan hacks.
i took my mom in for surgery yesterday (which, came out fine btw); and when she was in preop, she turned on the tv, to CNN... which i hadn't watched for (literally) years)...
WOW! it wasn't like, another movie; it was like going to the theater and seeing NOT another movie, but an entirely different art form (kabuki maybe?)
it was Significantly MORE slanted than the democrat campaign commercials i'm seeing
(fyi did You know,
that because of Iranian 'meddling' in our election; the election should be CANCELLED?
it was news to me!)
What do you mean by emails?
What do you mean by authentic?
Althouse... isn't about diagnosing whether Biden is a liar, but about deducing whether the emails are authentic!
If the FBI has had the laptop since December, is it imaginable that they would not investigate and authenticate?
i think the expression we're looking for is: THE DOG THAT DIDN'T BARK
Jim Treacher is giving half a vote or more to Biden because he doesn’t really care about any of this corruption. Why not just cite Chuck?
Charlottesville!
Evidence of 2 realities.
"Well, why not ask the FBI, which has had the hard drive for more than SIX MONTHS? “
That’s the beauty of the Democrat’s plan. They know that anybody in the media could call their sources and get a confirmation or a denial of the emails authenticity. Fox has already confirmed them through sources. They also know that the FBI will not officially confirm or deny anything as a matter of policy. So the best answer they can get is to demand an official raised-seal type response which they know that the FBI is forbidden to give.
This post isn't about diagnosing whether Biden is a liar, but about deducing whether the emails are authentic!
Even an "intellectual" can't be this stupid. The recipient (business partner of Hunter) of the most damning emails has publicly stated the emails are authentic and identified "the big guy" as Joe Biden.
"deducing whether the emails are authentic". Ann you are joking us, right? What more is needed? A video of Hunter actually typing the emails? Giuliani claims they are authentic after being verified, Ratcliffe says they are not anything Russian, one of Biden's staffers (using the double negative she learned in school) admits that they are "not inauthentic", then Bobulinski comes along to confirm and interpret the emails - oh and the Bidens don't deny that the emails are authentic. I have a feeling that that would be enough for a jury. How much more do you really need, Ann?
"What's also remarkable, after all the leaks of the last many years, is that nobody in the FBI has dropped a dime to tip off his or her favorite "news" organization about any of this."
This is a big assumption that nobody in the media has not been tipped about the laptop and its contents. Far more likely is that there are people in the media that knew but choose not to report for pick your reason. The fact that the media is trying so hard to ignore the story completely asserts to me that they have known but are unable to debunked it. So they bury it.
"What's also remarkable, after all the leaks of the last many years, is that nobody in the FBI has dropped a dime to tip off his or her favorite "news" organization about any of this."
This is a big assumption that nobody in the media has not been tipped about the laptop and its contents. Far more likely is that there are people in the media that knew but choose not to report for pick your reason. The fact that the media is trying so hard to ignore the story completely asserts to me that they have known but are unable to debunked it. So they bury it.
""well son of a bitch" what do you know. hahahahaha”
Kind of like Hillary chortling over killing Khadaffy and turning that country into a “shit show” in Obama’s words.
"Blogger Mr. D said...
Don't ask, don't tell.”
Yep.
Ann is trying hard to swallow all this and not puke. Give her a break.
Blogger PM said...
"What do you mean by emails?
What do you mean by authentic?"
Ok, we have a winner!
What happens if Biden us elected - can it all get buried / ignored ? But isn't Biden compromised / subject to blackmail by China and others ? The Democrat will probably throw him under the bus and elevate Kamala.
You are accused of being a pedophile using a doctored photo- using Biden logic, the smart thing to do is to not call the photo a fake. Contrast this to what Giuliani said about the still from the Borat II video- he came right out and said the stills were creating a fake impression and that the twitterers running with it were basically lying, and one can confirm this by just going to the film and seeing the scene itself in real time- everything Giuliani said about it was easy to see- there was no trouble interpreting what happened in the room. Now, if the young woman had offered to give him a blowjob, I can't say Giuliani would have turned it down. I would have been tempted even though my brain would be screaming, "She is playing some sort of scam on you, Dumbass."
I think Trump retired the title outrageous liar. Showing what an empty title it is.
Readering: "I think Trump retired the title outrageous liar. Showing what an empty title it is."
Yes. readering posted that....the day after Dementia Joe resurrected the Politifact 2013 Lie of the Year.
As always, readerings timing is impeccable.
readering: "Evidence of 2 realities."
But only one accurate transcript....which proves the lie.
Next up for readering: What do you mean by "transcript"? What do you mean by "accurate"?
Apparently, that's par for the course for all democraticals these days.
Blogger Readering said...
I think Trump retired the title outrageous liar. Showing what an empty title it is.
I assume others have noticed how lefties say this but never seem to have an example.
Why do you suppose foreign policy was excluded from both debates ?
Hey, my two most loyal acolytes adjacent in one comments section!
steve uhr said...
Question — when did gulianni first get the hard drive? I want to know how long he sat on it. I understand the fbi got it in 2019.
*****
Did Rudy get the physical hard drive, or the *contents* of the hard drive?
Big difference (and I don't know the answer).
But why would the FBI give Rudy the physical hard drive, something crucial to a criminal investigation?
steve uhr said...
Question — when did gulianni first get the hard drive? I want to know how long he sat on it. I understand the fbi got it in 2019.
*****
Did Rudy get the physical hard drive, or the *contents* of the hard drive?
Big difference (and I don't know the answer).
But why would the FBI give Rudy the physical hard drive, something crucial to a criminal investigation?
To be fair, Michael K, the president has rendered foreign policy moot by his tremendous successes.
Nothing to discuss really.
We would all get bored hearing how great foreign affairs are currently managed.
Michael K said... Ann is trying hard to swallow all this and not puke. Give her a break.
In an ideal world, Ann would vote for Trump because he has objectively been a good-to-very good POTUS. He is also as culturally liberal as she is. However, she worked hard to develop elite skills, credentials and connections in academia. She would throw those out the window if she gave public support to Trump. I suspect her self-image would also suffer.
Give Ann kudos for resisting pressures to condemn Trump as an evil, racist monster. The "cruel neutrality" schtick is an affectation, but she appears to be trying to live up to it this time.
If Trump wins we will need mostly honest liberals to help fight the Left. If Trump loses, we are fucked, but we will need to ally with those same liberals to keep them from destroying the country.
The mainstream media is obviously covering for Biden because they want him to defeat Trump. After the election, though, all bets are off. The most leftist parts of the media will probably start digging into the Hunter tapes, looking for some hook to force the appointment of a special prosecutor and Biden's removal from office. Helloooo, Kammie.
steve uhr, as usual, is ignorant of the details of this story so far. The Mac shop owner gave the FBI the laptop, which they have sat on for 11 months. When nothing had happened, the shop owner called some people he knew. One of them contacted Giuliani about a month ago. Giuliani got a copy of the hard drive, easy to make with a program like SuperDuper! He had some tech people verify the contents, then gave it to the New York Post. The day after the NYP story ran, Hunter Biden's lawyer called the Mac shop owner asking if he would give it back now, a year later. He was told the FBI had it.
"Michael K said...
Ann is trying hard to swallow all this and not puke. Give her a break”
+1
The FBI had it before Rudy. Rudy only got a forensic copy of the hard drives. How easy would it be to put Rudy in jail if he screwed with the contents, then took them too the Delaware State Police, who gave them to the FBI, who could then compare them to the original hard drive.
I don’t get the point of steve “show me the man, I will show you the crime” uhr’s question.
Enemy of the People..
Trying to swing an election by keeping their customers in the Dark
Joe "Angel of Death" Biden tries to do his best to cover for Democratic governors and mayors, but...
At 210k deaths:
84% of those deaths were in Blue States
16% in Red States
Death rates are 40% higher in Blue States than Red States
Economic recovery slower in Blue States due to their lockdowns
As for steve uhr’s question, I want to know, if there is indication that it’s Russian disinformation, why the FBI sat on it for so long?
"If Trump wins we will need mostly honest liberals to help fight the Left. If Trump loses, we are fucked, but we will need to ally with those same liberals to keep them from destroying the country."
Good luck with that.
I don't think the known plagiarist is worried about his reputation for honesty.
“Did Rudy get the physical hard drive, or the *contents* of the hard drive? “
My understanding is that the computer store imaged the drive, then gave the actual laptop to the FBI roughly 11 months ago. Giuliani then gave a copy of the image of the hard drive to the Delaware state police, and presumably kept other copies in various safe places.
Legally, the computer store appears to own the laptop, which probably includes much of what is in those hard drive image copies. Hunter gave up his rights to the physical drive, and its contents, when he left the laptop at the store for more than 90 days. What Hunter, etc, May have is a copyright on some of the contents. Unfortunately, for him, with his meal ticket running for President, is that there is a very strong claim for Fair Use by Giuliani, Trump, the DE state police, and the general public, essentially overriding his copyright claims. They may not be able to sell the contents, but it is newsworthy enough that giving it away is probably just fine.
"What Hunter, etc, May have is a copyright on some of the contents.”
The form Hunter signed said that the store was to be “held harmless” for whatever happened to the laptop if it were abandoned. NYPost lawyers and Giuliani seem to think that this settles the issue.
In Steve Uhr's defense for not knowing the details of the story, he is only getting his information from CNN and MSNBC which have clearly proven that the Russians gave the hard drive to Giuliani over a year ago. I mean, they have verified that fact, right Stevie?
I think the answer is that he knows it's an assertion that can be proven false, leaving him plainly exposed as an outrageous liar.
So what you're saying is, the laptop is real, the emails are real, the allegations are true.
That's what your words mean. Even if you don't know it.
Now what?
I heard that you're going to sit this one out, because I guess Biden disqualified himself a long time ago re racism/fine people, and you don't want us rubbing that in your face, but President Trump is still too orange, is that it?
You are, then, cold coward.
If ye love the opinion of the high-production-values media better than liberty, the tranquility of conformity better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Enjoy the burning of historic Regent Street. Stockpile only marshmallows; with weapons you will only hurt yourselves, or, worse, your new masters.
No threats, not from me. You're not worth the powder to blow you to hell. In fact, as Leonidas said to Ephialtes, may you live forever.
This post’s thoughts about the credibility of claims the Biden family took money from foreign interests made me ask a perhaps crucial question:
Does Althouse have a tag for “media bias”?
I used the upper left search field as Althouse recommended. My search was for the exact phrase “media bias”. I found 13 uses of those two words. All were in the postings; none were in the categories that Althouse uses to file and group her posts. I admit I may have made some mistake in my search. If so, please respond with your results.
Google reports 4.84 million results for “media bias”.
Am I the only person astonished by this interesting omission in Althouse’s cogitation about our incredibly powerful, all-pervasive media?
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