August 3, 2020

At the Monday Night Café...

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... you can write about whatever you want.

Not much sunrise on view this morning, but the photo was taken at 5:54 this morning. Actual sunrise time was 5:50.

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64 comments:

Jon Ericson said...

Tsk. Those midwesterners aren't as nice as I've been told. Why you shoot so much?

mandrewa said...

Tony Heller: Stealing the elections

Chuck said...

Lol. Althouse, I know that you largely refuse to blog about health care reform. Too boring for you.

Too bad.

So today, one day after Trump's utterly blowing his affirmative promise in the Chris Wallace interview that in two weeks' time, he'd be "signing" a "bill" (or a "plan"; who the fuck knows, with Trump?) that would be a complete health care reform plan...

... Today Trump says it will be by the end of the month.

This is the fourth or fifth time that Trump has promised a big, beautiful, comprehensive health care reform plan. Not just a plan, but a promise that he would be "signing" something in a month, or two weeks, or whatever lie pops into his head at any moment. And I am not even including Trump's countless campaign pledges that he would do it on his "first day" in office. And that it would be "easy." Because he's a great deal maker. And he'd make a great deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBO6QXretrE

Jon Ericson said...

How come sappy no popular no more?

Drago said...

LLR-lefty Chuck is very very very concerned that his beloved obama's socialized medicine big first step obamacare will come under further revision.

LLR-lefty Chuck has long been a passionate defender of obamacare and socialized medicine in general, in addition to all of LLR-lefty Chuck's other far left positions which include open borders as well as a fighter for Gov Whitmer's reelection.

Joe Smith said...

"... Today Trump says it will be by the end of the month."

Where's Biden's pick? Apparently no other politician in history has delayed a policy. Up until Trump, the U.S. government ran like a Swiss watch.

You are such a troll...

Kathryn51 said...

Ann,

Thank you for two posts on Critical Social Justice theory [one from New Discourses courtesy of son John and one from Andrew Sullivan].

Those two posts helped explain so much about the absurdity of the last several years, including a recent tweet by Byron York re: ""The National Museum of African American History & Culture wants to make you aware of certain signs of whiteness: Individualism, hard work, objectivity, the nuclear family, progress..."

After reading the two posts, I might actually vote for the Orange Man - it's clear that a vote for Biden will continue the nonsense x10.

Drago said...

BTW, since banned commenter LLR-lefty Chuck has reared his leftist head to post as a FakeCon on Althouseblog again, here's a fun link to the National Review article which dismantles the far left Front Group Lincoln Project:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/07/lincoln-project-election-season-grift/

This article effectively and irrefutably demonstrates what a laughable FakeCon grift the entire operation is.

The good news is that no one was fooled when the grift began.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

the only twitter feed worth reading.
Andy NGO.

The truth about Portland, and the left's toddler mafia.

the truth not found on CNN.

Drago said...

Good news and bad news for democratics and FakeCon LLR's:

The Good News: Joe Biden is confident and unafraid of Donald Trump

The Bad News: Joe Biden doesn't know who Donald Trump is

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Really great comment on the latest posting over at Taibbi's place. I'm copying it below but will have to break it up as it's pretty long.

I think there's a lot more that warrants investigation and discussion on this front, though.
A lot of people protesting for the abolishing of police forces seemed to have no problem wielding state power against people who violated lockdowns. Police are good when they punish the right people, as long as they don't kill too many black men on camera?

I think there's also a really scary implicit part of this argument, too: What's the acceptable number of people who get sick and die, and who determines that? It's obviously nothing new that people get sick, and sometimes they die from that illness -- why is it earth-shattering if that number is 0.5%, or 2%, instead of .03%? These are all hypothetical numbers I'm pulling from thin air, of course. The numbers are always changing and people spend days arguing about it, but at the end of the day they're always drawing on arbitrary distinctions by saying, "Mortality rate from this disease is X% and that (warrants/does not warrant) this lockdown." If COVID-20 (or whatever is next) has a 0.03% mortality rate compared to 19's 0.05% mortality rate, should we do less of a lockdown, and who decides that? This feels like a modern, data-driven approach that has truly scary implications to me when used as precedent down the road. Should I get arrested if I go out in public with a common cold? People die from that too, but is that number palatable enough that nobody gives a shit? Is the "new normal", as will be propagated by media and people in power, to stay inside when I have a cold and deny myself fresh air (and a speedier, more pleasant recovery) because I'm a threat to public safety and I need to be mindful of my bacterial footprint (or whatever godawful name people want to give it)? What should the punishment be for disobeying such rules?

Likewise, if wearing a mask reduces your chance of getting/transmitting germs by 48% but wearing gloves AND a face covering made with material X reduces your chances by 73% (again, hypothetical numbers), should the people reducing their chances by 73% look down their nose at the 48%-ers and force them to wear gloves and only buy acceptable face coverings? Which % reduction of germ transmission/receipt is the correct one, and what's the punishment for not adhering to that? I think this ties in largely with the "scolds" you've mentioned before when talking about the new acceptable method of online activism, because in my experience there's no shortage of people in this world who will take opportunities presented like this to scold anybody else who doesn't comply with the latest arbitrary definition of Acceptability. Because these are all arbitrary distinctions being drawn about what's the acceptable rate of reduction, and what's an unacceptable rate of reduction. Why are people not allowed to choose the rate of reduction they're comfortable with? And who decides the punishment for people who don't meet that reduction?


cont...

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Will people stop living like Howard Hughes when the right experts tell them it's ok to do so? It seems like permanent damage is being done to the collective psyche of humanity, which is scary enough to me, but if the public switches back to "regular" mode at the command of Experts and their state/local executive branch, isn't that also uniquely terrifying? It feels like Radiohead's "Fitter Happier" manifesting before my eyes as people adopt the prescribed way of life with minimal fuss. For people who reject this kind of control over our lives, there isn't a political party in sight that remotely cares about us.

So much is being changed in the name of safety and I see so many un-quantifiable, non-economic reasons to reject that, even if it means getting a disease that might kill you (or wreak long-term damage on your body). I know this disease has a slightly higher chance of killing me, but I'm ok with that risk because quality of life is more important to me than a long & safe life. I want to see live music again and be in the pit at a show, surrounded by other sweaty music lovers, even if that leads to me getting sick. There's no quantifying this, other than me telling people that sharing & reveling in music is the only reason I haven't offed myself yet. Are politicians & scientists actually able to deny me (and other people who feel like me) that basic human joy because the "moment" doesn't allow for it? Apparently they are, because I have no idea when I'll get to enjoy live music again here in Southern California, but am I just supposed to be ok with that? Do musicians now only perform at the convenience of state & local authorities, as advised by disease control experts?


cont....

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

As a bigger philosophical question, do people fear strangers and their germs when experts tell them to? Much of America's horrific cultural changes & atrocities came from fear of strangers -- do we really need more new reasons to be afraid of strangers? We're arming ourselves to protect against home invaders, an oppressive police force, terrorists, or undocumented immigrants. We're turning schools into fortresses with armed guards, metal detectors, and active shooter drills. This pandemic response feels like just the latest in fear-based modern developments that makes life just a little more miserable and undignified. I can't quantify these things, so do they not matter?

I'm truly sorry for the length here, but I think it hits an extremely broad range of concerns that cross political affiliations (and also exist outside any established political parties) and I think these kind of questions are things you touch on more than most anybody else I've read in journalism. Any time I've brought my point of view to a discussion, my friends (most of whom are mainstream Democrats) instantly align me with Trump and the MAGA crowd, of course. Or, they just call me a dumb hippie.

gadfly said...

President Donald Trump has fired the chair of the Tennessee Valley Authority, criticizing the federal-owned corporation for hiring foreign workers. CEO Jeff Lyash was appointed during Trump's administration in February 2019. Trump tells us that Lyash was paid $8 million. Trump said the authority was replacing many of its in-house technology workers with contractors who rely heavily on foreign workers under the H1-B visa program for highly skilled workers. Never mind that such actions are entirely legal.

Thirty-five years ago [now 40], a small army of illegal immigrants was used to clear the site for what became the crown jewel of Donald Trump’s empire.

The 200 demolition workers—nicknamed the Polish Brigade because of their home country—worked 12-hour shifts, seven days a week with no overtime to knock down the old Bonwit Teller building and make room for Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan.

According to testimony in a protracted civil suit in federal court, the laborers were paid $5 an hour or less when they were paid at all. Some went unpaid after the contractor had financial troubles. A few never received even the paltry sum that was owed them for their dirty and hazardous efforts preceding the construction of Trump’s monument to his own wealth.

“They were undocumented and worked ‘off the books,’” Manhattan federal Judge Charles Stewart said of the workers after they became the subject of a 1983 lawsuit. “No records were kept, no Social Security or other taxes were withheld.”

During the 16-day non-jury trial, a number of the Polish workers testified that Trump underlings had threatened them with deportation if they caused trouble. They walked in to the job from Brooklyn when a transit strike hit the city. Some of them slept at the site.

The lawyer representing the Polish Brigade had reported receiving a call from someone who identified himself as “John Baron” and said Trump was ready to hit the lawyer with a $100 million lawsuit if he kept causing trouble. Trump ... acknowledged on the stand that he had used the pseudonym “John Baron.”

"He knew the Polish workers were working ‘off the books,’ that they were doing demolition work, that they were non-union, that they were paid substandard wages with no overtime pay, and that they were paid irregularly if at all," the judge found.

Stewart suggested that it would have been difficult for anyone not to notice the Polish Brigade. “The Polish workers were obvious not only in numbers but also in appearance,” the judge found. “In contrast to the union workers, the nonunion Polish workers were distinguished by the fact that most of them did not wear hard hats.”

Churchy LaFemme: said...

Isaias

OK for another two inches..

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

sidebar: Your blog, but why do you bother putting up a cafe post at 7:30 pm if you're going to put your moderating teeth in the glass at 8:00?

Original Mike said...

Coronavirus: Melbourne lockdown to keep a million workers at home

Bummer. (Really. I have close friends in Melbourne).

Michael K said...

More Chuck shit.

Original Mike said...

Biden ad I just watched: "When we spend taxpayer's money, we should use it to buy American products."

Great ad if you're running against Romney.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

I feel worst for the weak sisters.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Welcome to dystopia: Get your COVID-19 ‘Health Pass’ today!
Vaccination status and blood test required.

https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/welcome-to-dystopia-get-your-covid?r=6a3x3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter


Does anyone here have a friend or relative that has died FROM Covid?

Narr said...

Please Gods! No health care reform blogging here!

I beg you, Prof, don't be baited.

You've a subtle eye for subtleties of tint and tone.

Narr
Who needs orange every morning?

Temujin said...

Jon Ericson. Those aren't Midwesterners. They are Democrats.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

John Stossel
@JohnStossel
"2 Americans just landed safely after spending 2 months in space.

11 years ago, an Obama committee concluded that would take 12 years and cost $26 billion. Elon Musk did it in 6 years-- for less than $1 billion. "

mmm.

bagoh20 said...

A little anecdote about the accuracy of the numbers we are using to destroy the greatest economy on earth, and thus destroy the only proven means to prosperity, health, and protection of the environment ever discovered.

I personally know of three women who recently went together to get tested for Covid in Fresno, CA. They arrived at the testing facility filled out the paperwork and waited. After an about an hour, they decided to leave without ever being swabbed or tested in any way. All three were later contacted and told they tested positive. I have read other stories of the same thing happening, but these are people I know of personally, and creates a 100% false positive tally among the people I know of who know they were negative. Funny how nobody reports such a thing ending in a negative test result.

So many of our people are willing to treat each other like criminals, ruin lives, and destroy futures based on these kind of lies. These are not mistakes. People are fudging the numbers, and it's hurting every one of us badly. We need to stop this dishonesty in our government. How can we really trust an election with so many of our people willing to do this kind of thing. We need prosecutions and sentencing for people doing these things, not just people who happen to know Trump, which seems to be the only remaining offence left worthy of a trial.

bagoh20 said...

Well, Chuck, maybe it's harder to pass something when try to actually keep your promise about what it will do. I don't think I have to remind anybody of what Obama promised us over and over in speech after speech, and then how far away the results ended up being from that. They are nearly the opposite. There is more than one way to break a promise, and some do real damage.

TickTock said...

So much opinion, so little reason.

narciso said...


Oh

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2020/08/03/abc-spikes-leaked-video-floyd-arrest-cbsnbc-edit-out-stop

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Althouse, you probably saw the post by Ed Driscoll on Insty, Behold, the Antifa Onesie (https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/391411/)

It contains a link to the history of “anti-fascist” movements (https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16104/antifa-history) including the anti-Hitler and anti-Mussolini movements noted by the onesie seller. Fun fact: while ostensibly anti-Hitler the original antifascist movements really goal there and in Italy was to oppose capitalism. Stalin funded it. So just like now they were really commie sympathetic anti-capitalists pretending to oppose the hated leader of the day. Fun follow-up fact: since WWII Germany has been the most industrialist capitalists in Europe so both Hitler and antifa were defeated rather completely at least in the western half.

Lucien said...

When people describe the speech or conduct of others as “hateful” I am struck by the ambiguity of the term. On one hand, it means I hate the speech, idea, or action involved; but on the other hand it can mean that I think the speaker or actor is motivated by hate. Those on the woke left seem to take deliberate advantage of this ambiguity.

Gospace said...

This is prety much what I've been posting here, on Facebook, and other places in regards to the covidiocy. Except better explained with more graphs and details and numbers.

Pretty much coviciocy and the dreaded covid are all about numbers-and the only important number is- How many are going to or have died from it?

And another important question- can we do anything cheap and easy to lower that future death number? Several things, in fact, point to that answer being Yes! We can! Let's start with the really simple one you can do yourself, without a doctor, without a prescription. Are you taking 1000-5000 IU of Vitamin D a day? Low Vitamin D levels from the beginning of covidiocy have been directly correlated with worse outcomes and more disease severity. Turns out low Vitamin D blood levels are associated with worse outcomes for ALL URIs, add TB, for over a decade. Yet, it is not routinely measured in medical exams unless you appear to have osteoporosis or at high risk. Apparently the small amount people get from drinking milk- those who drink, at least don't get rickets, which comes from severe Vitamin D lack.

Since only one link seems to be accepted- you'll have to replace "dot" with dots.
https:slant-slant www dot thedesertreview dot com/opinion/letters_to_editor/local-doctor-pushing-proven-treatment-of-covid-into-national-debate/article_ca59497a-c539-11ea-8943-4f707d6ebc1a.html
This is just one of the many examples of real life medical doctors on the front line, not epidemiologists in their ivory tower government supplied offices, testifying to the hcq, azithromycin, zinc cocktail. We also have another article I saw today that says it works.
https slant slant www dot lifesitenews dot com/opinion/this-indian-slum-contained-a-possible-covid-19-disaster-with-hydroxychloroquine
There was recently a headline in the Daily Beast: Why Is the Right So Obsessed With Hydroxychloroquine?. No comments allowed- but I posted my response on Facebook: "Gee, why are leftists so obsessed with banning it's use when doctors around the world say it's effective- if taken early, with zinc?"

And with that, let me add that I haven't seen the mainstream media attacking Speaker Pelosi for peddling this complet nonsense, headline from marijuanamoment- which I suspect is not a conservative site: Nancy Pelosi Says Marijuana Is A ‘Therapy That Has Proven Successful’ Amid Coronavirus Bill Debate Yeah, inhaling hot noxious gasses into the lungs for a lung disease is useful....

There are some other demonstrated inexpensive treatments involving steroids that I posted on Facebook. The Facebook censors have removed those posts... Matter of fact, just looking at my own posts, they've also removed several of the Vitamin D articles I posted. Facebook, if it censors, and it does, should be responsible for all content- and lose their immunity to lawsuits as it applies to common carriers, because by censoring so heavily, they're publishers.

Gospace said...

Just googles steroids and covid. Found a link. It is most useful in the later stages of Covid, unlike the HCQ cocktail, which is NOT effective in later states of the dreaded covid, but very effective if given early.

A steroid link, of the many:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/common-steroid-could-be-cheap-and-effective-treatment-for-severe-covid-19/

Readering said...

HBO/AXIOS interview of Trump...WOW.

Crazy World said...

No one really cares Chuck became we still have that awesome Obamacare!
Did you see Tucker shred Susan Rice tonight? Beautiful

The Crack Emcee said...

A lightbulb moment in America.

Howard said...

You support rewriting history, Crack. If you would just start acting white, we would treat you at least as well as Italians or Irish. But you can't take away our Heroes and expect acceptances into the club. As Melvin Udall would say: "think white and get serious"

Fritz said...

Isaias has us under a tornado watch. Confirmed tornado on the ground near Leonardtown.

Rusty said...

Readering believes everything he/she sees on TV. I bet you're convinced Bigfoot exists.

Angela Jones said...

No one cares! Literally!

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Gahrie said...

A lightbulb moment in America.

Get back to me when they rename Seattle. Or San Francisco.

Gahrie said...

11 years ago, an Obama committee concluded that would take 12 years and cost $26 billion. Elon Musk did it in 6 years-- for less than $1 billion. "

If anyone but Elon had tried, that would have been true.

Boeing and SpaceX got their Commercial Crew contracts at the same time. Boeing got nearly twice as much money, and has decades more experience building spacecraft. SpaceX is going to start fulfilling their contract next month. Boeing has at least two more demo launches first. When both companies are flying, seats on Boeing's Starliner will be at least twice as expensive as SpaceX's Dragon.

Bezos' Blue Origin started in 2000. Musk's SpaceX started in 2002. Both were started with the goal of building reusable rockets to drive down the cost of SpaceX exploration and exploitation. Musk is sending cargo and people to the space station using reusable first stages and capsules. He's even started recovering the and reusing the nose fairings of his rockets. Bezos has yet to achieve orbit with any rocket.

Michael McNeil said...

Since only one link seems to be accepted- you'll have to replace "dot" with dots.

Gospace, there is no “only one link accepted” limitation at the Althouse blog (or Blogger for that matter). Please include full html links for as many links as you wish to include in your comments — and certainly don't put in the kind of distorted text URL's you're employing above! Thanks.

The Crack Emcee said...

Howard said...

"If you would just start acting white, we would treat you at least as well as Italians or Irish"

Wait - every day you assholes are screaming about Chicago, WHERE BLACKS ARE ACTING JUST LIKE THE ITALIANS AND THE IRISH MOBS DID, but now you say, if we would just start acting white, you would treat us at least as well as them.

You guys can't tell the truth to save your lives.

The Crack Emcee said...

That FDR got homes to whites returning from the war, and not blacks, has created almost a century of nightmares for this country, and it don't care.

The Crack Emcee said...

You assholes say I gotta have a gun.

But you also say, if I kill a white guy I'm a racist, and if I kill my own race it's a black-on-black crime.

Basically you're convinced, whatever I do, it's gotta be FEDERAL.

Fernandinande said...

Yeah, inhaling hot noxious gasses into the lungs for a lung disease is useful....

Anything Pelosi says is probably false, but it's not clear what she did say.

At any rate, smoking pot increases one's lung capacity, and smoking cigarettes seems to have a slight protective effect against the Chinese cooties.

"However, recent large studies have shown that, instead of reducing forced expiratory volume in 1 s and forced vital capacity (FVC), marijuana smoking is associated with increased FVC. The cause of this is unclear, but acute bronchodilator and anti-inflammatory effects of cannabis may be relevant."

You mentioned steriods ^^^ ...?


"The [cootie] risks associated with smoking are disputed: increased risks were initially reported; recent studies suggest that smokers are under-represented among those with more severe disease; and a potential protective mechanism for nicotine has been suggested." (NHS)

Ann Althouse said...

"Your blog, but why do you bother putting up a cafe post at 7:30..."

It's a socially distanced café, where you're sitting at different tables, alone with your laptop. Notice I say now that you can write about whatever you want. I don't say "you can talk all night." It's not back and forth among yourselves anymore. It's the way things are. I keep early hours, but I give you a place to write. If you want to chat back and forth, I think there are places on the internet you can go. I have to keep the moderation on or things would go to hell. It's where we live now, and I can't control it except in the way that I have — moderation.

Michael K said...

Crack is losing it again.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Nah, not looking to "chat back and forth," and agree that the overall reading is better without the long strings of bickering we used to get, but I do like to read cafe comments in the evening. I get what you're saying though, that they accumulate overnight for morning reading. That's cool too.

Thanks for what you do.

iowan2 said...

Crack, the featured person in the story has problems. Too late for advice. But I'll provide some like its not too late.

Respect your parents, and grandparents
Go to school (everyday) get your education.
Obey the law
Find a job. Go to the job(everyday)
Continue education, many employers offer to pay all or a portion in return for commitments to the company.
Save 10% of your income for emergencies
Obey the law
Don't create another human until you have met, and married a good partner

Now, the world stops spinning and you are in trouble.
Obey the law

1.You and your partner are strong enough to figure it out.
2.Fall back on your family, and extended family. Almost everyone will pitch in to help
family in hard times
3.Your church is always there for you. I have never seen a church turn its back on its
congregation.
4.Obey the law
5.Your neighborhood has organizations, service clubs, community outreach contacts.
6.City infrastructure exists. use it.
7.State safety nets are in place to help.

The federal govt has more programs than can be listed, but I find it hard to imagine all the above, not lifting a person from unplanned for events.


Kai Akker said...

You can't lose what you never had.

The Crack Emcee said...

Hockey players kneeling makes sense, after all, Hockey was invented by Natives, perfected by blacks (who invented the slap shot) and then stolen by Canadian whites.

Or words to that effect.

The Crack Emcee said...

iowan2

You make a LOT of assumptions about what's possible in a nation that's given you no reason to trust.

iowan2 said...

Crack, try thinking for yourself and stop being informed by TV sock puppets. I have no intention doing point counter point, by linking to videos of other peoples monologues.

My point? Looking to the government for security is a losers game. You advocate for creating an entire culture of losers. Surprisingly enough, man progressed and succeeded for 10's of thousands of years without government.

You living in your disfunction helps no one, least of all yourself. If you want to help, teach the above to youngsters. In the short term, advocate all males rear the offspring they create. Not support...Rear. That means being involved in the life(s) not give money from time to time.

Live in the solution, or you are the problem,

Gospace said...

The Crack Emcee said...
A lightbulb moment in America.


Gee, there's a Stapleton on Staten Island! It's a stop on the Staten Island Rapid Transit! Not named after the KKK member in the link, but it's the same name!

Under the new rules- are they also required to change their name?

iowan2 said...

I promised to not play link wars...but

Just an example of why this is not productive

Gospace said...

And how about all these- are they required to also change?
Australia
Stapleton Island, Queensland
Stapleton, Northern Territory
United Kingdom
Stapleton, Bristol
Stapleton, Cumbria
Stapleton, Herefordshire
Stapleton, Leicestershire
Stapleton, Richmondshire, North Yorkshire
Stapleton, Selby, North Yorkshire
Stapleton, Shropshire
United States
Stapleton, Alabama
Stapleton, Georgia
Stapleton, Nebraska
Stapleton, Staten Island, a neighborhood in New York City
Stapleton (Staten Island Railway station)

Other uses
Stapleton (surname), including a list of people and characters with the name
Stapleton (band), a rock band from Glasgow

And according to the census, Stapleton is the 1644th most popular surname in the USA, with 19896 Stapletons around. Are they all guilty of racism by association? Even if they're Black?

Wikipedia has a list of famous or influential Stapletons in history. Maybe they should keep the name- but change who they're named after. Surely one of them must be worthy. I would suggest this British fighter pilot - jut because his picture says- this guy is fun!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Stapleton#/media/File:Gerald_'Stapme'_Stapleton_Duxford_sept_04.jpg
Like most WWII vets- he's now deceased, but wouldn't you have loved going out for a few drinks with him listening to war stories?

iowan2 said...

11 years ago, an Obama committee concluded that would take 12 years and cost $26 billion. Elon Musk did it in 6 years-- for less than $1 billion. "

I'm so old I remember when obama installed a new director of NASA, and told him one of his top three priorities is to make NASA an agent for outreach to muslims.

The Crack Emcee said...

Black family, including two teenage girls and a six-year-old, are detained and handcuffed at GUNPOINT after cops mistakenly thought their car was stolen

The Crack Emcee said...

Gospace said...

"Under the new rules- are they also required to change their name?"

It is 100% better, that you guys are confused rather than me, for a change.

Inga said...

I’m a fan of the new moderation, makes it worth commenting, makes it far easier to ignore the Drago types. It tickles me that it’s put a crimp in Drago and Ann I Am’s hide.

iowan2 said...

Crack
I got pulled over by 2 cops with guns drawn. Rural IA. 10:30 at night. It was a blacktop road but they pulled me over as I turned into the gravel. I was not "pulled" from my car, but ordered to open the door, show both hands, and then swing out one foot at a time, and stand. Then walk backwards toward his voice.
My plates did not match my car. The deputy had called it in, and when it came back hinkey, he followed me and waited for backup, before pulling me over.

I had traded cars. On advice of my father, he recommended I keep all the paper paper work in the car for just this reason. That included the description of the car I traded in. (government is not very reliable in carrying out their duties in a timely fashion). If I had no paperwork I most likely would have spent the night in jail.

Put that down to life happens, not ill will by the police doing exactly what we hire them to do.

Like the Professor Gates situation, cops doing their job should be celebrated. The difference was I don't feel entitled, and I follow the direction of Police Officers. Produced all the paperwork requested plus more. Why? Because my dad gave me "the talk". The talk about how not to get shot by demanding rights, out in the middle of no where, while I have rights, on the side of a road, I have no power to enforce those rights, and trying to enforce them postmortem is for losers.

Gospace said...

Oh, Crack, no one with any sense, including me, is confused at all.

That excludes white liberals.Pretty much, we don't bother obsessing over minor things.

I can pretty much guarantee that few people in that town had any clue which Stapleton it was named after- and fewer probably cared. And a town name change comes with some actual real life monetary costs. New stationary, repainting all the town's vehicles- DPW and police. And depending on the municipality, complying with all state, county, and local laws and regulations governing such.

Back in 1973, the year I graduated HS, East Paterson became Elmwood Park, a move approved by their voters- and widely mocked in the rest of the county. After the change- Elmwood Park was till east of Paterson... Nothing changed.

What's interesting is their first elected Democrat mayor was forced to resign and prosecuted and convicted for vote fraud. Wow, what a surprise! Right? The voters there are apparently schizophrenic- the mayor is Republican, all council members Democrats.

Most people neither know nor care who or what their town was named for. I just looked up mine:
The town was aptly named. The southwest portion of Savannah is comprised of an extensive swamp of nearly 1,900 acres which was covered with coarse grass. Our county has an actual paid historian who keeps track of such things... every county should have one. My street is named after the family that lives 2 houses down on the other side- about 1/4 mile away, and up the street on my side about a mile and 3 houses away. Virtually very street in town is named after a family still living in it.

Nichevo said...

The pity is, Crack, that Howard was trying to, I won't say suck your dick, I'll say, kiss up to you, with that remark, in his usual snide sarcastic way. He wants to be your fren. He may have interest in long hot showers together.

Howie, the pity is that Crack proves rhhardin right that his IQ is too low to understand your subtle rapier wit. To be fair, nobody else understood you either. Please please please, try those "social skills" of yours in the street sometime. Try and be sure it gets videoed.

Crack, stop whining about the car stop. It was a mistake about the plates. I've been stopped because my car fit the description, and you bet your ass I moved slow and followed instructions till it was sorted.