Last year, this board advocated strongly for a vigorous inquiry into accusations of sexual misconduct raised against Brett Kavanaugh when he was nominated to a seat on the Supreme Court. Mr. Biden’s pursuit of the presidency requires no less. His campaign, and his party, have a duty to assure the public that the accusations are being taken seriously. The Democratic National Committee should move to investigate the matter swiftly and thoroughly, with the full cooperation of the Biden campaign....There's no mention in the editorial of the way the NYT was used by so many Biden supporters, who claimed that the NYT had done an investigation and absolved Biden.
In his statement, Mr. Biden said that if such a document existed, there would be a copy of it in the National Archives, which retains records from what was then the Office of Fair Employment Practices... Later on Friday, after the National Archives said it did not have personnel documents....
Any serious inquiry must include the trove of records from Mr. Biden’s Senate career that he donated to the University of Delaware in 2012..... Any inventory should be strictly limited to information about Ms. Reade and conducted by an unbiased, apolitical panel, put together by the D.N.C. and chosen to foster as much trust in its findings as possible.... No relevant memo should be left unexamined....
IN THE COMMENTS: The Editorial Board speaks of "an unbiased, apolitical panel, put together by the D.N.C. and chosen to foster as much trust in its findings as possible," which prompted Roger Sweeny to say: "'Unbiased, apolitical panel' and put together by a political party do not go together."
But, you know, it makes sense to me. Who can believe in such a thing as "an unbiased, apolitical panel" in the first place? They don't arrive from Planet Neutralia. Are you going to find a neutral panel to appoint the neutral panel? Where do you start?! The Editorial Board puts the burden to pick the panel on a political entity with a huge political stake, and sets it up for our political judgement by announcing the standard that must be met: It's supposed to be "an unbiased, apolitical panel... chosen to foster as much trust in its findings as possible." Why would the DNC meet that standard? The reason is stated right there, and it's a political reason: the interest in getting us to trust the outcome.
Now, I wonder who could be chosen who could perform the task. We're told that the Biden archive at the University of Delaware arrived in the form of "nearly 2,000 boxes and more than 400 gigabytes of data" and that "most of it has not been cataloged." The Reade incident is alleged to have occurred in 1993: Was that the gigabytes era or the paper-in-boxes era? Who are the hyper-trustworthy, unbiased and apolitical investigators who can and will handle a project like that and do it quickly enough to work on the election time line? That's the problem I see. How is the DNC supposed to find people like that?!
ADDED: To state the problem is to see the real solution. This "unbiased, apolitical panel" — if anything like it could be convened — cannot get a creditable search done within a satisfying time line. Therefore: Biden needs to withdraw.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 240 of 240"Let's all be honest here: a sitting US Senator - your boss!! who you like!- is often a little handsy and one day slips his fingers in your skirt. You push him off, you get away safely. You are a young political newby. He's a Senator. Are you 100% sure you'd go to the police with that?"
Bingo. But it depends on how aggressive the jerk is. If he has you pinned against the wall, alone, ypou might feel threatened, and he may cross a big line.
Bay Area Gal told me once that in her late teens, a guy grabbed her ass in a public place, she slapped his hand hard, he retaliated with a punch, and they nearly got into a fistfight. The gal was feisty back then -- and now.
Let's hear the context from Tara Reade on a tv interview with Slow Joe Scarborough.
More "good news" for dems: Biden yesterday claimed 600,000 have died from ChiCom Wuhan flu.
By next week it will be 6,000,000!
Meade
I think this counts.
“How about withdrawing?”
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/10/house-speaker-paul-ryan-saying-he-was.html
Ann Althouse said...
This is not me calling for Biden to withdraw: " To state the problem is to see the real solution. This "unbiased, apolitical panel" — if anything like it could be convened — cannot get a creditable search done within a satisfying time line. Therefore: Biden needs to withdraw."
That's me analyzing what other people must be thinking. I'm an observer, and I'm trying to predict what might come next or infer what not being said.
5/2/20, 11:08 AM
You really have to stand behind the overt meaning of your words, Professor. There is no creditable way to refute the allegations- unlike Lazy-Ford, whose story was impenetrably vague yet utterly implausible- and therefore you present a solution. Not "should" withdraw, which offers the possibility of him not resigning, but "needs to withdraw," which is actually a stronger imperative. If you refrain from offering a view, and are just spitballing what other people might be thinking without some amount of confidence, what was the point of giving you a JD?
By the way, I find it amazing that there are still people who would go to the DC police or the FBI with a rape allegation against a Democratic politician, much less regard the absence of such as a refutation of allegations, but there you have it.
Drago said...
Note to self: Beijing-driven propagandists believe my mental state drives Gallup poll results and crackhead Hunter Board status.
Interesting.
5/2/20, 10:07 AM
1) SJWs Always Lie.
2) SJWs Always Double Down.
3) SJWs Always Project.
By the way, Howard- you're probably right that Biden's staff have destroyed all the documents relating to Tara Reade. But what you might not realize is that someone powerful is backing Reade. If Reade has way more documentation than she pretends, or a rival campaign "discovers" copies of those documents, Biden will be in the position of having to refute them AFTER claiming he has no such files. It will absolutely devastate all the ARM's who claim that Biden is completely exonerated, MoveOn.org.
Doctrev, it was Doc Mike's idea about document shredding. I've no idea who's behind Reade. You could be right. We will know more about the DNC game once a VP is announced.
Sorry MayBee, I don't wish you ill, but I've seen too much, including women who were raped and did not call the cops.
As for handsy senators, Oregon had one. A friend of a friend interned in his office and was warned on the first day never to be alone with him. If she, and others, had quit and told people at her college why, or if the AP reporter on whom he'd planted an unwanted smooch had raised the issue in a question at a press conference, and on and on etc., it might not have taken almost two decades and the Washington Post to shame him out of office. A creep is a creep, no matter his politics.
Women who put up with crap make life harder for other women.
"This means that Reade by name appears in hundreds of documents by tens of document authors and in person on audio and video files. This high quantity of documentation will be almost impossible to destroy without leaving huge apparent gaps."
Then huge gaps it will be. They will simply blame a highly localized fire, theft, sudden tornado inside the document room etc. No lie is too large to be told in this case if it needs to be done.
For what it is worth, I thought Althouse was telling us what she thought the NYTimes was implying with the suggestion.
Biden is not a viable... presidential candidate.
Ken B said...
I think this counts.
“How about withdrawing?”
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/10/house-speaker-paul-ryan-saying-he-was.html
Althouse has 'evolved' on Trump, unfortunately in the wrong direction.
Crazy Jane said...
Sorry MayBee, I don't wish you ill, but I've seen too much, including women who were raped and did not call the cops.
Thank you for not wishing me ill!!
I did not say what is the right thing to do, just pushing back on the idea that if a woman didn't call the cops, it didn't happen. You seem to agree with me on that issue.
I just saw this in the Yahoo "sports" section:
Joe Biden demands U.S. Soccer pay women's team equally
Is the strategy to deflect and become a champion for women's causes?
"Therefore: Biden needs to withdraw. "
Withdrawing because the U Del archive cannot be searched in a short time is premised on a false assumption. In high-stakes commercial litigation today, much bigger document/data bases are routinely searched, and there is no reason why this one, narrowed as it is by a timeline of July/August 1993, cannot be searched in a timely fashion. There are many lawfirms that could manage this. More generally, it's a terrible idea for office seekers to withdraw because of a decades-old allegation that they deny. Those making the accusation bear the burden of persuasion. The office-seeker knows if the allegation is true (even if, like Franken, they say that their actions are being misconstrued), and should withdraw only if it is true.
I realize that position assumes some level of decency (or perhaps just self-preservation) in the office seeker. But better to be disappointed on occasion on that standard than to permit mere accusations to be controlling.
Beijing Boy: "Althouse has 'evolved' on Trump, unfortunately in the wrong direction."
Translation: Althouse refuses to adopt the official ChiCom position.
For the record folks:
On November 8, 2016, at 6:17pm, ARM predicted a Clinton victory on the Althouse blog.
On May 2, 2020, at 9:33am, ARM predicted a Trump loss on the Althouse blog.
Put your money down now...
Ken B said...
Meade
I think this counts.
“How about withdrawing?”
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In your opinion, Ken, is “How about withdrawing?” a question or an assertion?
Therefore I award you no points.
Meade
I interpret this as an assertion:
“In your opinion, Ken, is “How about withdrawing?” a question or an assertion?”
Incidentally Meade, “assertion” is beside the point. The question asked was
“ Professor, did you ask for Trump to withdraw in the face of the allegations against him?”
She was asked, did she ask, not did she assert.
rylun said...
predicted a Clinton victory on the Althouse blog.
Can you provide the link?
Doctrev, it was Doc Mike's idea about document shredding. I've no idea who's behind Reade. You could be right. We will know more about the DNC game once a VP is announced.
Historians refer to it as "weeding" documents as Halifax's memoirs were weeded by his family or staff regarding 1940 and Churchill vs Halifax. In Clinton's case, Sandy Burglar took care of it but got caught. I'm sure Biden staffers got the files weeded just like Hillary staffers had a shredding party in the basement that time.
For the record rylun turns out to be lying. What I actually predicted was:
"I would like to suggest that we make predictions and see who is closest tomorrow. I predict Clinton wins the total vote by 3%."
Hillary Clinton won 2.1% more of the popular vote than Trump in 2016. So I was within 0.9% of the correct answer. Actually quite a good effort.
Alright, Ken, I'll award you half a point. I see how you could have misread "How about...?" as a hard "ask."
If you're committed to being a pill.
Meade
I do have trouble deciding sometimes. So many choices are offered me here: a pill, a prick, an insufferable prick, or a cunt.
I am by the way quite willing to accept Althouse’s implication that my reading and her intent differ, but her clarification came after my comment.
Hey ARM, you mean to say you didn't predict a Clinton victory?
I predicted exactly what I said I predicted. And, you lied by concealing the exact quote. Shame on you. You may be a new boy here, but this kind of lying behavior is considered unacceptable on the Althouse blog, where only the highest standards of probity are welcome.
Beijing Boy ARM: "...but this kind of lying behavior is considered unacceptable on the Althouse blog,..."
LOLOLOL
Recent ARM lies pushed at Althouse blog:
- There is no way to determine where the virus originated
- The ChiCom's have been far more effective in dealing with the virus than any other nation
- The ChiCom's have NOT been abusing their Uygher minorities
- The ChiCom's have been the most generous of all nations in providing PPE to others
There are about 15 more ChiCom specific propaganda lies ARM has pushed in just the last several months.
Which makes his comment above even more hilarious.
I have lost interest at this point, but Trump must be really tanking, based on the Drago Mental Stability Index (DMSI™)
Haha. Fair enough, Ken B.
Hillary Clinton won 2.1% more of the popular vote than Trump in 2016. So I was within 0.9% of the correct answer. Actually quite a good effort.
What you really needed to predict was that Hillary would win California by 5 million and lose the rest of the country by 2 million.
She is president of California.
I think this ends it. https://apnews.com/aec7beb03e9e0e0e6e3c58111293e0ea
Beijing Boy: "I have lost interest at this point, but Trump must be really tanking, based on the Drago Mental Stability Index (DMSI™)"
It appears our very own ChiCom propagandist is not handling the 5 Eyes intel report on the now quite clear and irrefutable duplicity and culpability of ARM's Beloved and Heroic Peoples Republic Of China ChiComs in covering up and lying about the ChiCom/WHO Wuhan Lab Bat Flu they unleashed on the world.
The very best part of this moat recent ARM talking point collapse? (I'm glad you asked!)
The fact that ARM asserted (lied about) a supposed lack of a US intel report on ChiCom mistreatment of Uyghers (ARM was appalled it had even been suggested!) which was immediately followed by ARM denying ChiCom duplicity and culpability immediately AFTER a US intel report exposes that very behavior!
Poor ARM. Spinning like a whirling dervish for his Beijing buddies....to no avail.
Alas.
I fear ARM has truly achieved LLR-lefty C**** status as an Althouse poster.
Of course, he never really had that far to fall, given where he started.
Phew! Dodged that bullet.
Thinking about "Okay boomer," my first thought was that this was gonna be all about us as in "Gen-Geezers."
Glad to be wrong.
rhhardin said...
Nobody grabs women by the pussy. The area is too soft to give any tactile definition, as boys find out in high school. Trump knows this and probably got the expression by aiming at grab them by the tits and at the last minute stealing another base to make it more emphatic.
5/2/20, 10:29 AM
Are you a virgin? You appear to have no direct experience with human sexuality.
Ken B said...
I think this ends it. https://apnews.com/aec7beb03e9e0e0e6e3c58111293e0ea
5/2/20, 7:40 PM
Yep, looks like they got to her. Funny thing about death threats, they never actually seem to happen, do they? Nice work, Team Biden. Say that for him, he does seem to have a working apparatus not entirely dependent on Team D.
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
This is a purely academic discussion. Trump isn't getting reelected.
Discussions on the fate of his soul might be of more interest.
5/2/20, 9:33 AM
Discussion of your soul, empty as that would be, offers more interest than your political prognostications.
I don't begrudge you telling yourself whatever lies you need to rock yourself to sleep at night, but why expose yourself by retailing them here?
Shouting Thomas on another thread said...
Finally, she screamed at me:
"What in the fuck do you think happened to Filipino men?"
I'd never thought of that before that moment.
5/2/20, 9:13 AM
ST, do you mean that Filipino men were also sexually molested by the Japanese, or that they were enslaved, tortured and murdered, which some might regard as being almost as bad as being raped?
I presume the latter. I'd presume that any woman in her right mind would prefer to be nonconsensually horsed-or, put another way, would consent to sex-rather than, say, have even one finger amputated. Probably preferable to a broken nose or arm or visible scars or loss of a tooth, though mileage may vary.
(In that way, rh, you might choose to say that PIV rape does not even necessarily rise to the level of assault. Just imagine if the rapist induces an orgasm in his victim! You'd probably say she should pay him.)
"...Blogger Breezy said...I am ok with outing the hypocrisy wrt Kavanaugh and trying to get a baseline..."5/2/20, 8:20 AM
So "Breezy" you're buying into Althouse's feminist B.S.? Hell, I remember a Huff/Post Poll done several years ago where over 60% of people polled don't believe in 'feminism'. Now take that to the Bank, Althouse.
Gee, just like Ukraine... this has been investigated (by what entity?) and Joe is innocent (sez who?).
Control the narrative!
wherein they can come to Joe either before, or at the convention,
If they come to Joe after the convention they only have two months until Election Day. That doesn’t seem enough time.
Withdrawing because the U Del archive cannot be searched in a short time is premised on a false assumption.
Why can’t a consortium of newspapers and networks crowdsource the doc search to randos like they did Sarah Palin’s emails?
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