April 14, 2020

At the Sunrise Café...

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... you can talk until tomorrow morning.

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The photos were taken at 6:28 this morning. The actual sunrise time was 6:17.

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h said...

The NYTimes media reporter interviewed the NYTimes editor in chief about NYTimes coverage of the Biden accuser Reade. This came up in Althouse comments in the last few days, so here's one small part of that interview:

Q: Why was Kavanaugh treated differently?

A: Kavanaugh was already in a public forum in a large way. Kavanaugh’s status as a Supreme Court justice was in question because of a very serious allegation. And when I say in a public way, I don’t mean in the public way of Tara Reade’s. If you ask the average person in America, they didn’t know about the Tara Reade case. So I thought in that case, if The New York Times was going to introduce this to readers, we needed to introduce it with some reporting and perspective. Kavanaugh was in a very different situation. It was a live, ongoing story that had become the biggest political story in the country. It was just a different news judgment moment.

tim in vermont said...

Easter Weekend death holiday over in Sweden. To be honest, it went up less than I expected. So maybe it really is flattening.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

narciso said...

So if they attacked taiwan or guam, then youd say they should be countered.

virgil xenophon said...

J. Farmer@12:22AM/

In ABSOLUTE, TOTAL agreement with you. The very essence of the source of the current dysfunctions in our civic culture..

Ralph L said...

but Britain, France and the Netherlands failed

Guess the Normans don't count, since they were Vikings.

Temujin said...

Decoupling will be a protracted process that would require a strong, united front. I can't imagine the US coming together in such a manner, given the extreme divides that define the polity now. It would also require the US to basically abandon it's "leadership" and accept a more limited role in international affairs.

I completely disagree with this. I think the younger buyers in the US already show a proclivity for searching out more quality products, produced more safely, or more green, or produced in a company or country that abides by the standards they prefer. You see it in buying habits that start as novel start-ups that get some buzz, but then go more mainstream. And it is already happening in virtually every product category.

Once the buying public starts demanding a more quality product, or a safer product, or a greener product, or a US MADE product, this will start to happen. Currently container-loads of product in all categories coming out of China are generally subpar quality from what could be produced elsewhere with quality controls, and a more incentivized labor force. I see it in my own industry- all over our industry. Those who buy from China get subpar products, but can sell them at lower prices. The public is being schooled- finally.

And as for our limiting our involvement internationally. While I'd like to see some areas where we step back, China is not stepping back. And we are the only deterrent to their show of power around the world. That, and their own people revolting at some point.

Shouting Thomas said...

Althouse’s Bleeding Hemorrhoid Brigade up all night again!

Michael McNeil said...

While we will likely have to cede the Indo-Pacific region to China's sphere of influence…

India is certainly going to have a great deal to say about that — and it now appears that they'll say it (in part) with a U.S. alliance.

narciso said...

Thats why they have pakistan as proxy, why they provided assistance for the former nuclear facility at kahuta.

narciso said...

like so

Michael McNeil said...

Pakistan is no counterweight for India. China's going to have to do a lot better than that if it wants to counter both India and an allied United States to dominate the Indian Ocean.

J. Farmer said...

@Michael McNeil:

India is certainly going to have a great deal to say about that — and it now appears that they'll say it (in part) with a U.S. alliance.

We have no alliance with India. Barriers between US and Indian cooperation remain on a number of fronts. Modi himself is pursuing a nationalist agenda aimed at increasing India's domestic production.

Inga said...

“Althouse’s Bleeding Hemorrhoid Brigade up all night again!”

He sees bleeding hemorrhoids everywhere.

Michael McNeil said...

We have no (formal) alliance with India — yet. FIFY.

Michael McNeil said...

But even without a (formal) alliance with the U.S., India is probably capable of countering China entirely on its own.

Andy said...

At the end of the 21st Century I think it is far more likely that people will look back on a century dominated by India than by China.

J. Farmer said...

@Michael McNeil:

We have no (formal) alliance with India — yet. FIFY.

Trump's recent visit to India resulted in no significant agreement between the two countries, and there are still a number of unresolved questions. I think it is very unlikely that we will see anything remotely resembling a formal alliance between the two countries.

But even without a (formal) alliance with the U.S., India is probably capable of countering China entirely on its own.

For now I think that's true. Although China has been making use of its base in Djibouti to operated in the Indian Ocean. But still, South Asia is not China's primary theater, and it's hard to imagine what would compel China to challenge India militarily.

J. Farmer said...

@Andy:

At the end of the 21st Century I think it is far more likely that people will look back on a century dominated by India than by China.

Possible. India's GDP is still about 1/6 of China's, and GDP per capita is about 1/5. But of course we have no idea how China will handle its internal problems, which could prove its undoing.

Gospace said...

chickelit said...
When French was the language of politics/nobility in the 16th and 17th centuries, what was the preferred currency? Was there even one?

That's my question stated another way. I don't know the answer. Florins? Guilders?


From 1780 on the most universally accepted throughout the world- and copied (counterfeited?) by other countries coin was the Maria Theresa Thaler. And Thaler is where dollar comes from.

Aside from that- gold was the universal currency, followed by silver.

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