CNN reports.
I'm going to use my old tag "the Air Force 1 photo op." The "the" is confusing here. The tag was created to cover what was easily recognized at the time as the Air Force 1 photo op. Do you remember it?
Here's my one post on the subject, from May 9, 2009, linking to the CS Monitor article, "Aide resigns over Air Force One fiasco -- Biden not involved"
"Once news broke that an Air Force One jet buzzed Lower Manhattan for a photo op, do you think Obama aides checked to see where Vice President Biden was?"Why bring up Biden like that? I have to infer that he was the butt of jokes at the time. But who remembers that now?
Anyway, what can we say about the use of Air Force One to show off the glory of the United States presidency? Whether Brad Parscale tweeted the right photograph or not is a piddling matter, but the use of the plane for visual messaging — as opposed to mere transportation — deserves some attention, and I just want the analysis to be the same whoever the President is.
It's got to be so unpleasant for anti-Trumpsters to see the man showing up at the big NASCAR event. This sort of attack must be irresistible (but I've got to assume they'd stress the charisma and unifying power of a Democratic politician who ventures into NASCAR territory):
Using the official apparatus of government for what appears to be a political event https://t.co/GWNm8io8O1— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 16, 2020
ADDED: When is the last time anybody won the presidency without winning Florida? You have to go back to Clinton in 1992 and, before that, Kennedy in 1960.
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Using the official apparatus of government for what appears to be a political event
YEP! THAT has NEVER happened before!
except, EVERY SINGLE DAY, OF EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENCY
Seriously, WHEN O'Bama went to a political event; how did HE get there?
And Obama used The Beast for an interview with Jerry Seinfeld.
I'm sure they'd be wetting their panties is Obama did this kind of thing. Hell, they did, when he buzzed the statue of liberty in AF1.
Yet another example of a perfectly normal thing that presidents of both parties have done for years suddenly becoming nefarious when Trump does it.
This is why it is so hard to run against an incumbent President. They swoop in on AF1, arrive in a full motorcade, to his private theme song “hail to the Chief”. Or just makes announcements leaving from or arriving back to the WH busily, with it in the background. The problem here is that Trump is a pro at self promotion. You can’t take AF1 away from him (or his “beast”), because he needs it to travel, and campaigning means travel, and his opponent should be traveling just as much, if he wants to win. And you can’t deprive the President of the right to try to get re-elected. For one thing, AF1 is his aerial command post - on 9/11/91, Bush went to AF1, and they flew around the country for awhile, while Cheney went into the WH bunker. AF1, in times like that, is National Command Authority, which is why you can’t take it away from the President.
AA is right: This confluence of circumstances - Trump, NASCAR, a southern locale - has to drive the Leftists over the edge.
I'd check the morning shows for coverage, except I don't give a shit what they think.
New Article of Impeachment.
It's fairly tame criticism, probably because there's not much to criticize about the President showing up at a sporting event.
I wonder if she had to spend time trying to think of the words to use to communicate that something bad was happening but still be accurate as well...the "official apparatus of government"...which, in this case is a car, right? or I guess also Air Force One? But those things, a car, a plane, they aren't just "official apparatus of government", they have practical, everyday use, which is transportation. Which is how we all get around, it's not just people in government. So, like I said, tame and kind of silly. Oh, well, I need to get ready for work, which I will reach in my "official apparatus" of going to work.
The President has no choice but to fly on Air Force One. I could get behind pressure on Presidents not to travel, but it has to be the same for all Presidents. This is comparable to what other Presidents do. And why do fighter jets fly over football games? Stop all of that, as far as I'm concerned. Bad for the environment. Squanders taxpayer money. But treat all Presidents the same or you have no credibility.
1. NASCAR race is a political event
2. Trump may attend political events, he just can't use AF-1 or the Presidential limousine.
Got it.
It's tough following all the new laws and rule liberals make for non-liberals on a daily basis, but we must.
Rule of law, the Constitution, the Founders, and stuff.
250,000 people in attendance.
Tens of millions more on tv.
2020 superbowl attendance about 80,000. (1/3)
Daytona speedway is privately built and operated for profit, btw.
Unlike most govt owned stadia and arenas.
John Henry
And let's have all the political candidates stop flying and driving around.
Let's get back to the "front porch campaign" approach. For the environment.
Remember when Obama had two big Presidential campaign buses made? Did anyone ever use those?
’And why do fighter jets fly over football games? Stop all of that, as far as I'm concerned. Bad for the environment. Squanders taxpayer money.’
🙄
How about coast to coast train rides on Rail Car One? There is no Rail Car One? What if we made it an electric vehicle?
Much ado about nothing, to me. But that's what it's come to with Trump and his detractors. Every day is an outrage.
—seriously, WHEN O'Bama went to a political event; how did HE get there?—
They sent TOTUS instead.
It is evil for the President to have some fun.
The "that's not funny" tag is missing.
It's called incumbent advantage. And everyone uses it. At least with the Presidency, it will only get them 2 terms.
The Senators and Congresscreatures use their incumbency similarly, not with The Beast Presidential Limo, but in countless other ways, to keep their positions for decades. For their entire working careers. This was never what was envisioned by the Framers, in who's day people left their livelihoods to actually do some public service, then went back to their lives just as soon as they could. No one wanted to stay in festering Washington DC any longer than they had to back then.
Today- to call it 'public service' is laughable. They go there to increase their income tenfold, make bonzo connections for their later years, get a nice cushy life in one of the highest cost of living areas in the world, and above all- relish in their power, such as it is. This is why Term Limits is necessary.
Maggie Haberman just catching on to this? And it was Trump's use of the car that caught her? Stunning.
And why do fighter jets fly over football games? Stop all of that, as far as I'm concerned. Bad for the environment. Squanders taxpayer money.’
They fly over football games because flyovers are cool. As far as the squandering goes, pilots need stick time. You can fly in circles or you can fly over the Daytona 500 because it's cool.
I wondered why somewhere they didn't just crank the sound of jet engines over the stadium audio, then claim is was a 'stealth fighter' flyover. Stealth.
Turn left and go in circles as fast as you can until you crash. You would think Liberals would be good at NASCAR.
You’re not canceling Chicago’s Air and Water Show.
Back around 1973, Richard Nixon flew in to Ontario Airport in California for a visit. Our HS band was there on the tarmac to play "Hail to the Chief" and a couple of other marching band tunes. A bit before his arrival a staffer came by and gave our band director a piece of campaign music called "Nixon Now." One of our horn players was so incensed that he put a McGovern sticker across the bell of his baritone.
The band director sent said horn player off the bleachers and dropped him from the band. The player's dad, who worked in some capacity at the ACLU, sued the school and won his son's reinstatement. There were hard feelings, but eventually they were smoothed over and we got back to music as usual.
Funny thing is, I don't think the horn player was wrong. It's one thing to be called in to welcome a sitting president that you hate (and he did hate Richard Nixon), and quite another to be forced to participate in campaigning for him.
Democrats hate NASCAR, with all of its profligate fossil fuel consumption killing the planet.
There’s a reason Trump declined Pelosi her aircraft usage. She’s still butt-hurt over that.
Funny thing is, I don't think the horn player was wrong. It's one thing to be called in to welcome a sitting president that you hate (and he did hate Richard Nixon), and quite another to be forced to participate in campaigning for him.
Or pay dues....hello, unions!
Whatever plane the president is one becomes Air Force One. He could leave the government plane at home and take a Trump plane (which would then be flying under the designation, Air Force One), but you know that wouldn't please the complainers. They would only be happy if he stayed home and never talked to anyone.
“The President has no choice but to fly on Air Force One. I could get behind pressure on Presidents not to travel, but it has to be the same for all Presidents. This is comparable to what other Presidents do. And why do fighter jets fly over football games? Stop all of that, as far as I'm concerned. Bad for the environment. Squanders taxpayer money. But treat all Presidents the same or you have no credibility.”
Not just the President, of course. It would be unfair if his opponents could travel around the country campaigning against him. So, as you suggested, ban campaign travel. That’s about the only way to do it fairly. But then the President has his WH, and his Rose Garden. Showing him in front of the WH is also unfair, and since we need to be fair, that means banning Presidential candidates from posing in front of their homes, or probably in famous places.
Not going to happen, of course. Highly unconstitutional.
Our water girl for the NYT is doing her Thunberg schtick today. She has regressed to a teenager.
Trump has gotten into her head.
Trump wins again.
Kelly O'Donnell
Verified account @KellyO
This was an official White House event therefore paid by taxpayers as @realDonaldTrump @FLOTUS attended Daytona 500 today and “The Beast” limo ran a pace car lap around the track.
1:06 PM - 16 Feb 2020
I also read a couple "reports" Trump violated the Hatch Act.
It's not transportation. They paint it up for the purpose.
Kerry violated The Logan Act. Him first.
OMG. Remember when Barack and Michelle flew to New York City for "date night"? Sure, it wasn't a campaign for office-- he had just recently won. But it was a campaign for people to love him, just the same.
Air Force 1 flyover at Daytona
Cool as hell.
As a taxpayer I'm fine with this. I look at it as a necessary step to keep a communist out of the White House (Bernie or Petey) and allow us remain a semi-free people. I'd rather be paying for this than paying for the IRS to go after groups who hold opposing beliefs. I'd rather pay for this than send pallet-loads of cash to the Iranian mullahs. I'd rather pay for the President to go in circles in Daytona than to pay for thousands of new bureaucrats to dismember our former healthcare system and fall over each other trying to paste together a website to cover it. (similar people are now pasting together a voting app for the Dems in Nevada).
And on and on.
This is pure deflection! She’s lamenting how awesome the whole thing was, that it was so purely American, and that Trump was smack dab in the middle of it looking unstoppable in his re-election bid. Oh, and acquitted.
They fly over football games because flyovers are cool. As far as the squandering goes, pilots need stick time. You can fly in circles or you can fly over the Daytona 500 because it's cool.
And because it is a patriotic display of the strength of the country. The taxpayers whose money that some people say is being squandered...LOVE it. It is exhilarating, amazing, powerful and makes a person proud of the country and the brave men and women who fly those fighter jets.
Plus. LOUD!!!!!
My taxpayer money gets squandered every day for things that I never see, never benefit from and some which are against my own rights and needs. Squandering my money aborting babies, building billion dollar trains to nowhere, creating agencies to tell me what to eat and micromanaging my life. Stop squandering that money and then we can talk.
My guess is that 90 to 95%% or more of those at Daytona are already Trump fans and they don't mind the squandering or noise. That is what they are there FOR!!! Loud, fast, powerful, gas squandering cars, because..... we CAN.
Well, there's a first: Althouse flight-shaming the POTUS.
But apparently not the Dem candidates flying hither, thither and yon for their primary events.
I guess that's different, because reasons.
The only thing they could've done that would've been cooler would be to use The Beast as the pace car to start the race.
"The President has no choice but to fly on Air Force One."
There was an exception. Back in 1973, President Nixon took a commercial airline flight (call sign "Executive One") to "set an example for the rest of the nation during the current energy crisis" and to "demonstrate his confidence in the airlines".
Normally, US presidents do ride in military aircraft. "Air Force One" is the call sign for any Air Force plane that carries the president. They established that call sign after confusion between the presidential aircraft and another with an identical flight number almost caused an accident back in the 1950s. The presidential helicopter is operated by the US Marine Corps, so its call sign is Marine One. Before that, it was operated by the US Army and the call sign was Army One. When George W. Bush rode in a Navy S-3 Viking to land on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, the call sign was Navy One. That was the only time that call sign has been used. Should a US president ever ride on a Coast Guard aircraft (it hasn't happened yet), the call sign will be Coast Guard One.
"Loud, fast, powerful, gas squandering cars..."
Got my attention. I want one.
What's with the pic of the presidential limo? Looks like somebody futzed with the perspective settings and made half of its hind end look big.
It always comes back to the same thing--refusing to acknowledge the 2016 election.
Trump won the election. Fine. He's the President. But, he can't actually BE the President.
He has no Presidential authority (see House, federal judges), and everything he does do is illegal.
Trump seems to have a lot of fun as President. Drives the Puritans in the Democratic Party mad.
still crazy,
http://patterico.com/2020/02/15/weekend-open-thread-21/#comment-2308663
Bloomberg going death panels is probably worth a thread,
Perhaps the President should use a Presidential balloon enblazoned with his image. He could float over events and toss out candy and the torn up Articles of Impeachment. Then float off , Wizard of Oz like to another event, I would love this.
the campaign is relentless
The pomp and majesty of the office is one of the perks. Yes it creates an incumbent advantage but that only really helps presidents who have positioned themselves to be viable for a second term. All the advantages of incumbency didn’t help Carter or GHW Bush either. But hackery like Haberman whining about it and O’Donnel labeling it campaigning is bitter loser media piffle.
Another impeachable offense? Send Schitt to the basement with the files?
Blogger Larry J said...
The only thing they could've done that would've been cooler would be to use The Beast as the pace car to start the race.
Ever seen the banking at Daytona? It 35 degrees. A car has to be going at least 70 miles per hour to get up on the bank. To start the race it has to get to 100mph or so. The centrifugal downforce is terrific.
I think they looked at using the beast to start the race and the laws of physics got in the way.
OTOH, a Corvette convertible, with PDJT in the front seat holding an American Flag. That is what they should have done.
But the laws of physics apply to presidential bodies as well. Would PDJT be able to handle a couple of gs?
John Henry
OT but if you are ever in Charlotte looking for a way to spend 2-3 hours, the NASCAR Hall of Fame is downtown. Terrific museum.
I've been twice. My wife has no interest in racing and she even enjoyed it when we went together.
John Henry
Haberman whining: Mission Accomplished!
narciso: Just curious. Did not you not make your next-to-previous posting into an html “hot” link for a reason?
it wasn't worth noting, unless you really want to,
the rizzotto won't deliver itself Maggie,
"Whether Brad Parscale tweeted the right photograph or not is a piddling matter"
It's only considered a "piddling matter" 'cause this White House is constantly playing those kind of bullshit games. We're so used to 'em lying & trying to con the American people...on things even as small as this...that a lot of people don't even bother getting worked up over it anymore.
But would a truly "neutral" person (cruel or otherwise) really be so dismissive of such a blatant lie coming from Trump's team?
*rolls eyes*
I don't think the horn player was wrong.
He could have refused to appear, but putting on a public display, particularly if told not to, offends the rest of the group. Springing the tune on them at the last minute was a rude and terrible idea--suppose they made a hash of it?
GHWB's 1992 whistle-stop campaign stopped near my house. They'd invited 2 local marching bands and didn't let them play at all. They brought their own little crowd and canned music for the TV setup. The rest of us just stood there. I'm sure it lost them more votes than it gained.
Something tells me Maggie Haberman is really bad in bed. Bitterness and sex just don't go well together. She's not a good journalist either. She seems stupid and lacks any sense of self-awareness.
I enjoyed Ed Driscoll reminding us yesterday of his 2011 image of President Obama and Biden headed to a NASCAR event, so true.
https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2011/9/2/citizens-of-nascar-we-come-in-peace-2/
Serious Question
is it okay, for the Air Force to spend money on Advertising for recruits ?
Can you think of a more effective (and persuasive) advertisement than The Thunderbirds?
Two scenarios
One, the USAF spends a million, or so, for a 60 second TV ad during the Daytona 500
Two, the USAF spends a hundred thousand on fuel, and flies the FUCKING THUNDERBIRDS RIGHT OVER THE STADIUM, TO THE CHEERS OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE...
ALL ON NATIONAL TV, FREE OF CHARGE
Which do Any of you think would get more people to enlist?
Mary...Bush knew exactly what he was doing and what he looked like...he had been a fighter pilot(F-102).
MEG: "[Geo. W. Bush] wearing a green flight suit and holding a white helmet, got off the plane, saluted those on the flight deck and shook hands with them. ...Bush just didn't see how dumb he looked."
Back when he was in the Texas Air National Guard, GWB was a qualified fighter pilot. I understand he handled the controls of the S-3 he flew out on for a bit, though (of course) he didn't make the landing on the carrier.
Part of the job as president is to be the Head of State. Appearing at the Daytona 500 is part of his job as Head of State.
They asked the commanding officer of the Wisconsin Air National Guard about the flyovers at Lambeau a few years ago. He said that they need the flight time anyway and that the split second timing to come screaming over the north end zone just as the national anthem comes to an end made it better training.
'the mission accomplished' was misunderstood, it was about the end of that task force's rotation, bur like with the apocryphal 'plastic turkey' everything about Iraq had to be weaponized,
But treat all Presidents the same or you have no credibility.
You continue to write as if this was all something new because of Trump. The MSM has been unfairly attacking the Right for 70 years. What have they called Trump that they didn't call Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan, or either Bush? What will they do differently in 2024 whoever the Republican nominee is?
Having military jets fly over large events is a strong recruitment tool just like air shows featuring the blue Angels and that Air Force team whose name I forget
Blogger Howard said...
Having military jets fly over large events is a strong recruitment tool just like air shows featuring the blue Angels and that Air Force team whose name I forget
Thunderbirds.
I guess people forgot why they were created, and their mission.
Recruitment.
Narisco: I will stipulate that you are correct. Any grande over the top slam dunk kind of political statement has to be understood as intended 100% or it is an abject failure. You sound like one of those mothers that is constantly making excuses for their heroin-addicted son who she gives money to and let him live in the basement and never questions where he goes at night or who he hangs out with.
In other words you are treating George Walker Bush just like the retard that he is.
on the other side
It would be interesting to know the demographics of the Daytona 500 crowd. I would imagine that it draws people from all over the rural South and is not a representative sample of the Floridian electorate. But it pumps you people up which is nice you need all the good news you can get because your self-esteem is always teetering on the edge of despair.
much like spiking the ball after bin laden, didn't declare an end to al queda,
however
Remember, Obama ended fly-overs as a part of sequestration.
Sequestration is a glaring example of how easy it is for democrats to flog republicans, and republicans barely even notice.
Thanks Browndog. The only other military fighter demo team name I could remember was the Snowbirds.
they have his number
I would imagine that it draws people from all over the rural South and is not a representative sample of the Floridian electorate.
Bernie drew 11.400 at a rally in Colorado.
. I would imagine that it draws people from all over rural Colorado and is not a representative sample of the Colorado electorate. But it pumps you people up which is nice you need all the good news you can get because your self-esteem is always teetering on the edge of despair.
Howard is such a pathetic miserable old shit bag. I guess calling George Bush a retard helps soothe the soul of mediocrities like him.
the demographics of the Daytona 500 crowd. I would imagine that it draws people from all over the rural South and is not a representative sample of the Floridian electorate.
Probably not since the main focus of the Daytona even is that it is a NASCAR race. Not everyone does NASCAR.
So not more representative of a group of people than Hollywood Oscars are representative or than a crowd at a Barbara Streisand concert represent the State of California.
Did you think that a crowd at a specific event would be representative of any group other than the one that is attracted to that event?
Did you have a point?
narciso said...
they have his number
He did more than shake his hand. He acted like he just ran into his best friend he hadn't seen in years.
Trudeau is also palling around with a terrorist that flies all over Canada despite being on a terrorist no-fly list.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
Probably not since the main focus of the Daytona even is that it is a NASCAR race. Not everyone does NASCAR.
NASCAR broke into national popularity back in the early 2000's. But even before that Daytona was like the Indy 500, it was the only event in the sport that drew national attention.
Yeah I did have a point and that was Althouse mentioned that you pretty much need to win Florida to win the presidency. Therefore ipso facto making an appearance at the Daytona 500 will help those chances. I'm not sure that's true if the demographics of that crowd are skewed towards Georgia and Alabama as well. I know using logic and being curious about what the math says is hard to swallow but please try and keep up.
I think the most humorous thing about the mental illness required to support Trump is that it makes all of you people so overly emotional. All of Rh harden theories on appealing to women and soap operas is exactly what Trump is doing.
Why bring up Biden like that? I have to infer that he was the butt of jokes at the time.
"At the time" is superfluous.
Biden has never not been the butt of jokes.
Since 2016 Florida has become more of a pink state.
Using the official apparatus of government for what appears to be a political event
NYT writers still bitterly clinging to long-invalidated assumptions.
And some, I assume, are good people.
The President traditionally shows up at Sporting Events to enjoy himself - and supports American sporting institutions. They throw out the first pitch, attend Redskin games, or whatever. That its an election year, and Trump is running for re-election but that doesn't make it a "Campaign event". That's just a side benefit.
Did people the NYT's complain about Clinton doing this in 1996 or Obama in 2012? I doubt it. So, why are we taking their crybaby attitude seriously?
Yeah, EVERYTHING Trump does must be criticized and attacked, Ever.Single.Day. Negative coverage 92%. When are people going to stop thinking the MSM is "independent" or "Objective" instead of an arm of the DNC?
Given the way people are moving, Republicans consistently winning Texas and Florida will soon offset commie california and NY state in the EC.
No one likes a Tattle Tale, and that is what these tweets sound like to me. The snotty ass-kisser student who snitches to the teacher. Or the no-talent turd who has the HR hotline on speed dial. All reporters tweets just sound like "I'm Telling!!" Nothing is worse to me than one who rats out to the parents/cops/lifegaurd/warden or whoever.
"Something tells me Maggie Haberman is really bad in bed."
All you have to do is tell Haberman you want to role play and ask her to blow you like she would if you were Adam Schiff.
Using the official apparatus of government for what appears to be a political event
Yeah, DAMN that Harry Truman for using the official Presidential rail car on his whistle stop campaign back in 1948.
Parscale probably just googled in images and got the wrong one. That this is considered a an important thing just shows you how deep the TDS runs on the left. No doubt Chuck will come in with The Bulshitwark's take on how bad this is.
This is why it is so hard to run against an incumbent President. They swoop in on AF1, arrive in a full motorcade, to his private theme song “hail to the Chief”.
Yeah, but I liked the scene where Trump walked out on election night for his victory speech to the theme from the movie “Air Force One.”
Everyone who supports Trump is mentally ill, George Bush is a "retard." All hail the towering intellect of Howard the Superior! What a miserable sack of shit.
President Trump was at Daytona.
Former president Obama was bantering with students and players at the NBA all-star weekend in Chicago. I was embarrassed to see Barry going into and out of black lingo like Hillary with the students and players and administrators, depending on if they were black or white...
I can't imagine who ever elected that guy as president.
Just vote, Jack.
Don't namecall.
Win.
In America,
even Klompus
can be a winner.
You'll still be a Pollock though.
;-)
Klompus is still pissed about the pen.
I know. We should all aspire to be as great as Mary Glynn, the anti-semitic jew-hating cunt. Wearing your Himmler shirt today or sticking with the fashionable Goebbels?
I'm actually wearing a lampshade
in honor of your people, Jack.
Wait, it IS your people...
They say hi. Be strong, son.
Make good choices.
"The President looking for NASCAR fans support in his re-election bid."
The President saying thank you to NASCAR fans for their overwhelming support.
There, fixed it.
Moron
Front porch campaign. Good one, AA.
Watching some of the Daytona coverage, I was thinking this morning, since my brother is sure to bring it up, when did the era of front porch campaigns get replaced by barnstorming by railroad?
Lincoln was front porch, a few speeches. The election work was carried out by prominent surrogates and party machines. I don't remember Grant barnstorming and McKinley do did it. When I have more time I'm going to hit the Wikipedia.
Browndog said...
"Remember, Obama ended fly-overs as a part of sequestration.
Sequestration is a glaring example of how easy it is for democrats to flog republicans, and republicans barely even notice."
That's how benefits are used as a means of control. Gov't services that were closed because of the sequestration were picked by the Executive Branch's OMB to inflict maximum discomfort (like national parks and monuments).
N.B. Trump chose not to close them during more recent budget squabbles.
Eight years of sniffing President Baracketology's jock and they're now upset about this?
Laugh at these idiots. It's what they deserve.
Liberals are never happy when a republican is doing well and scoring points with his constituents. It's just that their schtick is so entirely predictable and phony it's hard to dress it up any more as news "opinion". We knew what Maggie was going to say before she even opened her pie hole. Don't tell me, Trump had TWO servings of nachos while others only had ONE.
And why do fighter jets fly over football games? Stop all of that, as far as I'm concerned. Bad for the environment.
Those serve as training flights, actually. The same amount of flying would happen regardless.
Blogger DavidUW said...
Given the way people are moving, Republicans consistently winning Texas and Florida will soon offset commie california and NY state in the EC.
I would not give up on CA after AB 5 gets through putting people out of work.
"And why do fighter jets fly over football games?"
Because taxiing thru football games never works out very well.
Meh, really, who cares. There are more important things that Democrats could get incensed over. Trump showing up at a race didn’t change anyone’s mind one way or another. People of both sides are dug in for the duration.
"And why do fighter jets fly over football games?"
Why not? Those jets are constantly flying somewhere.
When is the last time anybody won the presidency without winning Florida?
With or without felons?
Althouse thinks the environment is in jeopardy from all this. Doesn’t she now she’s going to drown or burn up in 10 years? I say live for today!
Presidents should only use the official apparatus of the government to spy on political opponents.
WhoKnew,
I knew a guy who flew helicopters for the Army at Ft Lewis.
You often hear criticism of the cost of rescue operations when some climbers get in trouble on Mt. Rainier... but let me tell you, the guys at the pointy end of this particular spear absolutely loved it. What could possibly be better than a real life training mission?
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