February 17, 2020

First, don't take the Lord's name in vain. And second, I think it's great, Bloomberg doing musical theater.


It's positively Trumpian. Remember this (video from the 2005 Emmys):

There's also this:

Is that any less presidential than this?


39 comments:

tim maguire said...

Giuliani enjoyed cross dressing in public and, as I recall, lived with an openly gay man for a while. It didn't hurt him in the slightest with intolerant right wing biblethumping homophobic voters.

Because he was competent.

He made people's lives better.

stevew said...

Real humans doing real human things in public. All these actions strike me as self-deprecating and fun; they are saying that they are confident enough about themselves that they can go out in public in awkward and potentially embarrassing ways.

As for the not presidential bit, that is just a sub-form of your civility bullshit category of complaint.

MayBee said...

There was a hot minute in the 2008 election when they tried to use those cross dressing things against Rudy, implying that maybe he really is gay.

I've also seen and heard "Jesus" used as an expletive on tv frequently. It apparently isn't a bad thing according to the censors.

gilbar said...

I've also seen and heard "Jesus" used as an expletive on tv frequently. It apparently isn't a bad thing according to the censors.

Why would it? he was just a prophet; not a Deity, like Mohamed (PWRK)

gilbar said...



Christians are like Cis-women; you push them; and they apologize, and step aside

rhhardin said...

Bloomberg looks like Pete Postlethwaite (actor).

MikeR said...

When was this video made? Is this what Bloomberg is like, or (if made yesterday) what some consultants decided he needs to be like to compare to Donald Trump?

rhhardin said...

The name of the lord is Bavel, which means confusion.

Sally327 said...

I think since Bill Clinton went on Arsenio and played the sax, politicians have wanted to seem as if they are hip and with it and down for a bit of fun and frolic. Maybe it happened before Clinton as well, like Nixon I guess went on Laugh-in?

When it's meant to be fun, it's okay (apparently that includes black-face as long as it's a Democrat). It's when it's meant to be serious that but comes across funny or weird, then it's not, like Dukakis in the tank. Or John Kerry pretending to go hunting.

Shouting Thomas said...

I was recently invited to a performance of Porgy & Bess.

I know next to nothing about opera, but the whole thing seemed like a musical to me. Just as it does in musicals, the artifice of characters breaking into song in the midst of their dialogue seemed ridiculous to me.

I think I’ve played every song in the score of Porgy & Bess. Legendary tunes.

But, the story was trifling and the whole musical thing was just plain silly. And the damned thing dragged on for 3 hours!

Just asking questions (Jaq) said...

Speaking of musical theatre, I just went and saw Hadestown in NYC, which is billed as being anti-Trump, which it is, to an extent. The guy who plays Hades, that is to say Satan, had the bricks of a wall as arm makeup, and there is a song about building a wall with Hades behind it, but that play was so Vermont that I thought that they were going to hand out maple creemies during intermission. The “Why We Build the Wall” number was actually pretty good. Ultimately the play was about the Greek story of Orpheus and Eurydice though, not Trump.

They make the same kind of arguments that Althouse pointed out yesterday about transgenders in sports. Based on sympathy, rather than cold logic. They are very convincing to stupid people, and people who don’t want to be seen as mean by stupid people.

Just asking questions (Jaq) said...

If he had appeared with the Mayor of Munchkinland, that would have won him the job.

gilbar said...

Remember back when Bloomberg said...
If Jesus was a Jew, why does he have a Puerto Rican name?

henry said...

The difference is both Rudy and The Donald looked like they were enjoying themselves. MiniMike looked tense throughout. Thus laugh with the first two, but at the third.

SeanF said...

The real trouble with the Bloomberg "Mary Poppins" bit is that it plays so perfectly into the nanny-state criticism of him. Specifically, I expect the line "Maybe I can make the whole country behave" to end up in a Trump ad if Bloomberg's the nominee.

mccullough said...

Rudy looks like Madonna

mccullough said...

Bloomberg looks uncomfortable around blacks

Kay said...

I love this. I’m here for this.

Amexpat said...

Trump is a much better singer and entertainer than MB. But that has little bearing on how people are going to vote.

Lucien said...

So Rudy appeared in woman-face?

Bay Area Guy said...

I'm generally for our politicians taking a few moments to try humorous attempts at theater.

BettyB said...

The Bloomberg difference is that he's not funny: too stiff and self-conscious. So rather than recommending him for his willingness to make fun of himself/seem ridiculous, it emphasizes his lack of connection to others.... his total inability to relate to other human beings. He can't even fake being a normal person.

mockturtle said...

Giuliani was excellent in drag.

mockturtle said...

Per gilbar: Remember back when Bloomberg said...
If Jesus was a Jew, why does he have a Puerto Rican name?


Now that's funny!

Howard said...

Apropos deep philosophy from As Good as it Gets. Simon to Melvin:
The best thing you have going for you is your willingness to humiliate yourself.

Leland said...

Bloomberg looks wooden. It's like watch Hayden Christensen in "Attack of the Clones".

Sal said...

It's funny to see Trump again from the time before he became Hitler.

Michael said...

Good for both of them! But one's a natural and one's a stiff. And Giuliani is terrific. Maybe he should start doing story time in grade schools.

jeff said...

Bloomberg’s thing was 14 years ago, Trumps Green Acres thing was 15 years ago and his thing with Rudy was 20 years ago. What does any of this ancient stuff have to do with being presidential? I willing to guess, if you just go back far enough, pretty much everyone who ever ran has something innocuous, yet embarrassing in their past.

JohnAnnArbor said...

It's all very New York, back when they had a sense of humor.

rehajm said...

Haha!

What?

You look like Mary Poppins!

Is he cool?

....Hell yah he's cool!

I'm Mary Poppins Y'all!

Wilbur said...

Bloomberg? He's no Leonard Blush.

Fernandinande said...

Spanish actor tried for blasphemy

Maillard Reactionary said...

At least Trump knows how to treat a female impersonator.

Bill Peschel said...

Phidippus: +1 for the Monty Python reference.

Jupiter said...

I notice he didn't try to grab Giuliani by the pussy. I guess he wasn't a star yet.

mikee said...

Trump and Guliani on SNL was meant to demean them, but instead they showed that even though Republican, they could enjoy self-deprecating humor, even unto pink gowns and bad wigs.

Compare and contrast with Attorney General and Davidian Burner Janet Reno's appearances on SNL, wherein her awkwardness was accentuated to the nth degree.

wbfjrr2 said...

The Bloomberg piece with the Blacks is cringeworthy. Reminds me of Kerry.

Two geeks trying to be cool, and failing badly.

Bilwick said...

"Maybe I can get the rest of the country to behave," says Nanny State Mike as Mary Poppins.

Perfect. Every statist's dream . . . because by "behave," they mean "Obey."