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So, they're Intentionally making it unattractive, so that people Won't Watch?
strange!
Vindman Bros. fired and escorted from White House property!
Pre debate appetizer - Vindman twins and Sondland out. Coast Guard Rear Admiral Peter J. Brown to take charge of all U.S. efforts in Puerto Rico.
And, Friday's not over quite yet.
Were Bloomberg in this one, I might watch in the background, but no, I am not watching. Will probably check out Althouse Jr.s live blog if he does it tonight.
No, I thought I'd watch some paint dry, instead.
Damn it!!! I forgot to buy paint.
Why isn't Bloomberg there? They couldn’t find a box for him to stand on?
Seven are in, right? Who gets the center spot, and who is to their right and left?
Bloomberg isn't contesting the NH primary is the reason he isn't in this one. He will be invited to the next one.
Klobuchar should drop out. She came in last in Iowa.
This is the big time. And she is small time. A nobody.
Romney there?
After New Hampshire, we’ll be down to the Bs
When are the other candidates going to acknowledge that Bernie was right. A woman can’t beat Trump. They can’t even beat Bernie
Bloomberg is going to learn a harsh lesson, though. By not contesting the first four states, he is going to find out that television ads are no replacement for winning or finishing second in a primary. Even with the massive debacle of Iowa, all the candidates were talked about in the news while no one really talks about Bloomberg.
Seriously, who even pays attention to political ads on TV? If they mattered, Tom Steyer wouldn't have been taken behind the barn and put down after Iowa.
Good, Jalcoh is liveblogging this affair. Saves me the time of watching it.
What debate?
A woman can’t beat Trump.
If women really want to see a female President they need to get behind Ivanka in 2024.
If they are smart, they will poke and poke at Biden, irritating him more and more, in order to knock him out. He's the one on the ropes. Taking on Pete or the Bern or Fauxcahontas can wait.
The last polite debate I saw was briefs or boxers.
Can Joe Biden stay awake for three hours?
"If women really want to see a female President they need to get behind Ivanka in 2024."
uh.
I am Laslo.
They can even cloak it in praise for old Joe. Saying how they are sure that there is nothing shady with his shaking down Ukraine and in his unqualified family member getting a ton of cash just because.
Damnit, my polite debate comment now makes no sense.
Yeah, I considered making a remark about getting behind Ivanka, too. I like to imagine her with a ponytail.
Ha Ha
Spellchecker changed "political debate" to "polite debate" in my just deleted post.
Now I lost my train of thought.
Biden hasn’t quit yet?
Because the best way to determine who is best for president is by 30-60 second soundbites.
Because snap answers play such a HUGE role in presidential action.
Biden surrenders in his opening answer
So Clinton Boy takes a shot at Bernie, but not old Joe.
Sanders mumbles something and gets crazy cheers
Is Stefanopolos gonna be tough? We'll see
Yeah, I can't see or understand how "young people" would be so ga-ga for dinosaure Crazy Bernie.
Yes, Biden surrendered in the first comment.
New hairstyle for Klobie. Same nervous delivery.
Hey Stephie, isn't it Butti-jedge, not Butti-judge?
Yet another reason I'm glad I don't have a tv. I will check in on John's live-blogging and the comments here but that's as close as I want to get.
Biden, then Snuffelopagous: Trump will beat you over the heads with Socialist label.
Berno: Who cares? Trump lies! All about turnout!
Steyer will be comic relief tonight
Yang! Send me the $1000 ASAP, thanks.
Bernie and Steyer: The answer is GO-TV -- get out the vote.
So much for attracting people by having better ideas.
Warren trying to amp it up even further tonight. Socialist shit disguised as good government
Amy Klobuchar trying to take credit for the fact that Minnesotans turn out to vote.
walter said...
Romney there?
You know, that's Crazy Enough; That It Might Just Work!
The Democrats should nominate Mittens Romney !!!
If you add up:
The Automatic Democrat votes (dead, imprisoned, non residents)
The Standard Democrat votes (clueless, brain dead, senile people; like my dear old mom)
The Never Trumper, Life Long Republicans
Some of the female independent voters, who don't think it's fair Trump gets to grab 'em by the pussy
You MIGHT very well have more people than Trump
"Help Us, Obiwan Romney; you're our only hope!"
Warren: because that's want people want to hear -- bitch, bitch, bitch, everything is lousy, negative, negative, negative.
Did Steyer just answer a question without mentioning climate change?
Warren: because that's want people want to hear -- bitch, bitch, bitch, everything is lousy, negative, negative, negative.
Mayor Pete all about 'style'. Ok, guy is a genius. But I can't listen to his lecturing for 4 years.
I kind of agree with Yang that the socialist bogeyman doesn't mean much in our modern world, because it is largely irrelevant to the problems that we are going to face.
Pete has more than a bit of that Nixonian sweaty upper lip thing going on.
Climate change has charred so many South Carolinians, Steyer thinks he has 24% support from black people in the state.
Bernie is a one trick pony. Ok, we get it pops, let's move on
Snuffelopagous with the Pete assist: You mean Sanders?
Pete: Yes!
Bernie -- you bring people together by attacking others.
Warren attacks corruption, not once saying the word Biden.
How did Old Joe get center stage?
Joe is sleep talking
That would be a hard no.
Buttuvwxyz,
Goes right after Sanders, but only when prompted by Snufflepuss.
whoa!! the ritilin just kicked in
For a 78 year old guy who recently had a heart attack Bernie has an incredible level of energy.
Joe bringin' energy.
Push-ups could happen.
The knives are out for Sanders here- Stephoclinton has made it a point to get the other candidates to go after Sanders by name, but Sanders is fighting back, and has the loudest supporters in the audience.
Anger is an energy. I agree. But not sure what the anger is about.
" because it is largely irrelevant to the problems that we are going to face.”
Yes, you guys always know what it is best to do today about the future that you predict which never comes.
“I don’t have a magic wand!” - Obama saying that we couldn’t bring back jobs.
“You can’t drill your way out of this!” - Obama saying that we would never be energy independent.
Not watching. I'm still stuck on the fact that only Iowa has happened (poorly executed, btw) and NH will be over by this time next week and a goodly number of candidates will be declared "DONE!". Why would I spend my Friday watching that shit show?
"How did Old Joe get center stage?"
He still leads the national polls.
Berno Clause!
Slow down Joe!! wow, he just burst out sprintin'
Joe goes Mondale -- I'm going to raise your taxes $800 billion!
Grumpy old men.
It's not the same without Marianne and the unleashed power of love.
She should have run with Warren: The Professor and Marianne.
Fear for his ticker, ARM.
Biden attacking Sanders' Medicare for All plan with a lot of energy.
I will say this- so far, this is the most aggressive debate between the candidates on the stage.
Video feed went out!!
Damn. It came back.
Bernie is right, that we spend a ridiculous amount of money on health care. It is a giant tax on actual productive economic activity across the country. Bernie's plan is unworkable but things have to change if we are to remain economically competitive.
I have a High Deductible Plan. Has an HSA. It is fantastic. Are they gonna take this away from me?
Dental Claire?
Warren slingin' gender pronoun!
Team Vagina!
https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/status/1225944898395758592
Yancey,
She gets 'em spotless!
I think Bernie will die before Biden. Sometime in Trump’s second term. Unfortunately Trump will not be able to order the flag to fly at half staff since the hammer and sickle isn’t the US flag
we spend a ridiculous amount of money on health care
Well, telling the healthcare industry that we're going to open up the U.S. Treasury and give it free access to the money-printing machine is hardly the answer.
Poor Tom Steyer. You would think a 100 million dollars of ads could buy him some spot other the podium in the parking lot where Stephoclinton can safely ignore him.
We certainly shouldn’t spend any tax dollars to keep septuagenerian communists alive.
Neither Joe or Bernie will live out the term.
Pete gonna turn that paige over and over.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1225954146710323200
Amy K., just stay in senate. Minnesota seems to like the job you're doing.
Buttuvwxyz is the most polished of these people on the stage, but there is no passion there.
"Leave the politics of the past in the past" is polished and meaningless at the same time.
Mayor Pete comes off the best among this sorry squad.
I can see why he’s doing so well. He’s like the social director of an old folks home.
Buttuvwxyz has a lot chutzpah to bring up election security after Monday night's debacle.
Am I up for a Democrat debate? No.
Will someone, anyone, say Tom Steyer's name so that Stephoclinton will stop ignoring him!!!!
This debate will change nothing. New Hampshire vote is set
Burno, Petie, Warren, Joe, Amy
While I disagree with Bernie's solution, he is right - we pay too much for too little and no one else does.
Bernie and Biden are older than the oldest Baby Boomer.
Warren comes off like a thin Hillary. What a harpie.
Klobuchar is the white girl Obana dumped for Michelle.
Steyer pops up and identifies the current POTUS
Thanks Tom, go away now.
Cool Newcumber?
Well, you said his name YW, and off Steyer went.
Vodkapundit:
According to Bernie, the American people want low-skilled people priced out of the labor market, and job creators taxed out of existence.
This crowd couldn't generate excitement in a bordello if they had a case of Tres Agaves tequila and a few dozen little blue pills.
Steyer mentions Snuffelopagous having worked in the Clinton campaign?
Gonna pay for that.
Sanders mention Alzheimers, but neglected to mention Biden. A missed opportunity?
Pete repeats the past playbook and says we need to move beyond the playbook.
Yang has gotten 30 seconds
Klobuchar is the white girl Obana dumped for Michelle.
Brutal!!
Two things I've been hearing my entire adult life (which began in 1975): federal deficits and rising healthcare spending are going to totally crater the economy and our standard of living. Always tomorrow, of course.
Thanks to John for live blogging. BUT its absolutely insane that nobodies like steyer and yang are wasting everyone's time by attending the debate. They didn't get 5% in Iowa and they won't get 5% in New Hampshire.
Stop wasting our time with these losers. The debate should be Warren, Buttigig, Biden, Benie, and Klochblob. That's it.
Buttigieg is the son of a Marxist professor, and a red diaper baby just like Obama.
And just like Obama, he hides it under a mountain of wonk-speak.
Yup
Tom Steyer finally gives up trying to get attention from Stephy, just interrupts and take control.
A kernel of truth/commonsense from Yang.
First appearance of either at the debate.
Bernie is the only one telling the truth on health care.
Buttigieg is too smooth for me and I liked Obama.
There's Yang. Making sense, but still invisible
Yeah, healthcare is going to kill us all.
Warren -- "no one is above the law."
(lame lukewarm applause in response)
All the D's love Romney. He's a "Brave man".
Why should Klobuchar be on the debate?
She’s not going to win anything either and finished fifth in Iowa
Let’s face it, it’s Bernie, Buttigieg, and Biden. No one else has a chance.
But Yang is way brighter than a Klobuchar and Steyer is way more accomplished. She’s totally worthless.
Biden's leg hairs standing as Warren talks accountability.
There's goes Warren with that forelorn affectation. Hate it.
Not as shrill as Hillary, but Warren's still quite annoying to hear for very long.
"While I disagree with Bernie's solution, he is right - we pay too much for too little and no one else does.”
The problem with the Democrats' plans is that they think they can get the money by taxing the rich, when every other country that has a. single payer system finances it with regressive taxes, VATs, which are where the big money is. No Democrat wants to face that reality.
I'm giving up. Everytime I look at the TV, i see Yang. Who cares?
Yang nails the entire field.
Crowd's getting tired of the call for Trump's blood.
Plus when the UK and Canada nationalized health care, it was right after the war when all of the doctors were already in the employ of the government. There was no taking of hundreds of billions of dollars from private businesses and throwing hundreds of thousands of people out of work.
Bernie, Trump is getting things done for America.
What the f*ck are you gonna do? Jerk.
Yay Bernie, you said it!
mccullough said...
Klobuchar is the white girl Obana dumped for Michelle.
That 'white' girl was half Japanese and her parents and ultimately she herself dumped Obama.
Berno might have to swallow his tirade on quid pro quo if Grassley and Johnson follow through re Biden, Inc and tentacles.
Trump hatred taking over.
Ooh. She goes there.
Alright, I got better things to do.
Sanders is going to win on Tuesday.
Hunter has been named!
Dishonorable Republicans, well said Mayor Pete.
Same with Pete considering Biden whored out his son.
Two things I've been hearing my entire adult life (which began in 1975): federal deficits and rising healthcare spending are going to totally crater the economy and our standard of living. Always tomorrow, of course.
And, S.S. gonna run out of money (but welfare never will)
Blogger Mark said...
Crowd's getting tired of the call for Trump's blood.
I doubt that.
This lady asking tough questions!
We need to look to countries with private systems that we think work better than ours. But you know, there are four hospitals in the US that do more medical research than the rest of the world’s hospitals combined.
Other countries let children die that we fight to save.
It’s just not as easy as saying we pay to much. We demand a lot, do Democrats think we demand too much from our health care system? They should say so then.
Illegal aliens, who work without labor protections and things like health insurance, but who must be treated anyway are another costly issue? Can we really insure anybody who comes here? Canada doesn’t do that. The UK doesn’t do that. Australia doesn’t do that.
Yang needs to pass out the thousand dollar before the election..prove he is serious..
Any one of those Democrats up there on that stage would make a better President than Trump, even the dog catcher would be a better president.
Keep barking.
Trump has at least managed to bring these people together - a uniter not a divider.
Sorry, Inga. You're not any more convincing than Steyer when he drones on saying that same thing over and over and over and over and over.
The democrat nominee is not even on that stage.
Hello, Mike Bloomberg
"For a 78 year old guy who recently had a heart attack Bernie has an incredible level of energy."
Like bragging about being the world's tallest midget.
I hate to break this to ARM, but healthcare IS "productive economic activity".
"even the dog catcher would be a better president.”
Did you see the jobs numbers? The productivity numbers? Have you seen the price of gas lately?
What would they have been had Hillary managed to ban fracking and shut down the US energy boom I wonder, like she promised to do.
"Any one of those Democrats up there on that stage would make a better President than Trump, even the dog catcher would be a better president."
I believe the dog catcher would certainly be better than any of the Dems up there.
Almost common ground!
I am Laslo.
Trump has moved us closer to peace in the Middle East than ever.
At least the Bernie supporters can craft some pretty funny memes. You know who is afraid of memes? Cheatin’ Pete.
“Become president, young man! While you still know everything!"
Calling a fellow vet a war criminal does not seem to me to be likely to increase the military vote.
Between Bloomberg, Steyer and Soros - wring them dry and hand all of their money to the rest of us and esp the poor.
Why not?
This guy just said Trump has no regard for the military?
Let's go ask the service woman/man that
Pete's comments re Biden's are pretty hilarious..
Stand up and clap for Vindaman!
Who?
“Sorry, Inga. You're not any more convincing than Steyer when he drones on saying that same thing over and over and over and over and over.”
I’m not under any misapprehension that what I say will change your mind. That's not my goal in commenting. I’m not convinced by what you folks have to say, so there you have it.
Jersey Fled said...
healthcare IS "productive economic activity".
The money would be better spent making our export industries more competitive or improving our schools or paying down the debt. The pharmaceutical industry and some medical device manufacturers create value, but most of the medical industry is a local service industry. It doesn't make the country more globally competitive and we shouldn't be paying a premium for that.
Well, you can't say that I didn't give the 2020 Dem candidates a chance and honest hearing. But I think I'm getting close to my lifetime fill.
There should be an apprentice program.
Let these people go manage a smaller country, like Slovakia, then if they do a good job they can audition for the big show.
Checking TV listings now.
Any tweets from POTUS?
Steyer, that pos, you know he spent his youth having his ears flicked from behind. He's done well, made way more money than me, but he's still that kid we all pissed on.
Glad we ended the kale fight.
make sentences much, Joe?
I've never heard the argument before that goods produced for export are more valuable economically than goods produced for domestic consumption.
Good one, ARM.
I've yet to hear one positive, uplifting, inspiring word from these folks.
That's it. I'm done.
I'm audi.
"It doesn't make the country more globally competitive and we shouldn't be paying a premium for that. “
Yes, these deplorables with there lamentably poor genetics want a health care system that will keep the inevitable defective children they tend to breed alive. Don’t they see that other countries just throw those babies in the dumpster in the name of competitiveness? It’s a sad reality.
BTW, we are globally competitive. The limits on growth now are lack of employees since every person who wants a job has one. I don’t know what this fantasy economy is that you are talking about that is bigger than the US workforce.
It’s like you just say things that you haven’t thought through because they sound good.
Jersey Fled said...
I've never heard the argument before that goods produced for export are more valuable economically than goods produced for domestic consumption.
And you still haven't. I said spending a premium for a generic local service industry makes very little financial sense.
Aunty Trump said...
these deplorables with there lamentably poor genetics want a health care system that will keep the inevitable defective children they tend to breed alive. Don’t they see that other countries just throw those babies in the dumpster in the name of competitiveness? It’s a sad reality.
I would lay off the bottle if were you.
“I've yet to hear one positive, uplifting, inspiring word from these folks.”
An American Carnage, the theme of Trumps inauguration speech. Very uplifting and positive.
Can you imagine trying to transcribe what Biden is saying?
Democrat elites are all liars and crooks.
Mollie
@MZHemingway
Devin Nunes is an *actual* profile in courage. This man took on nearly everyone in DC, including many powerful people in his own party, to fight to bring Americans the truth about the Russia collusion hoax and FISA abuse. Completely vindicated and our media LOATHE him for it.
Indeed.
Drunkblogging the New Hampshire Democratic Debate.
I find Biden embarrassing. Someone should take him aside and say it's time.
Berno muddles illegal immigration vs CAGW fight.
Moron.
The real problem that ARM has with the economy is that labor is getting expensive.
Black Workers’ Wages Are Finally Rising
After a decade of stagnation, black and African-American workers have seen pay increase. One man’s story shows the hope — and limitations — with that shift.
But when Mr. Mitchell looks around his relatively low-income and heavily black neighborhood, he worries that the rising tide of a strong economy has not been equally good for everyone in his community. And when it comes to his own labor market gains, he’s working hard to make sure they do not prove fleeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/business/black-unemployment-wages.html
You know how they could ensure that their gains are not “fleeting”? They could re-elect Trump and not go with one of these people with hair brained schemes to re-engineer an economy that is finally working for them.
“I find Biden embarrassing. Someone should take him aside and say it's time.”
He doesn’t look well tonight, his color is very yellow.
An American Carnage, the theme of Trumps inauguration speech. Very uplifting and positive.
Yes, “Let’s not talk about the problems in the black community” - the Democrats.
Johns live blog
Steyer should ask Snuffleupagous for more war room insights.
Mark said...
If they are smart, they will poke and poke at Biden, irritating him more and more, in order to knock him out. He's the one on the ropes. Taking on Pete or the Bern or Fauxcahontas can wait.
You are under the impression that these people want to win something.
Fauxcahontus was the only one with a fire in the belly. And she is just too much of a piece of shit even for democrats.
Everyone else was propping Biden up and hoping to be the VP slot and lose setting themselves up for 2024.
And then there is Bernie who just doesn't want to win ever. He just wants to lead the marxists along and get them to vote for the globalist and get another vacation house.
Biden speaks of his accomplishments, real and imagined..
someone on twitter re: Butigreigxyz
"Same basic idea: his basic mien just gives me the...weird shudders. I don't really know why, all the actual words coming out of his mouth sound fine. But the delivery feels so iced down."
Berno's raked in lots of campaign bucks. Still using family to siphon via ad buys?
To be fair, Bernie's vacation house is rather modest. You could be his immediate neighbor for maybe $250k. What I like about it is that he put it in a trust so that he can pass it along without paying estate taxes.
Inga said...
He doesn’t look well tonight, his color is very yellow.
The contrast with Bernie is striking. Every geriatric is a different story.
Gutfeld:
"Mayor Pete is a thesaurus without specifics. Liz Warren is an evasive phony. Joe is a man in decline. Yang is smart but untested. Bernie is spirited but wrong on solutions. Amy is the only one left who has potential. She's talking optimism at least."
hmmm.
Pete has a TED talk way about him.
Most important thing eva !
Global Warming's 50 Years of Fraud
Warren has disappeared.
"healthcare IS "productive economic activity".
"The money would be better spent making our export industries more competitive or improving our schools or paying down the debt. The pharmaceutical industry and some medical device manufacturers create value, but most of the medical industry is a local service industry. It doesn't make the country more globally competitive and we shouldn't be paying a premium for that."
ARM wants you to bleed out sitting in a waiting room in a plastic chair, while the graduate of the local community college decides whether xhe will see you.
Clap for the Vindman
He gonna rate your record high
You ain't gonna get 'em, 'cause I got 'em
Clap for the Vindman
You gonna dig him 'til the day you die
You might want to try, but I'm gonna keep 'em
Clap for the Vindman
That takes me back. Remember Vindman Jack? He was somebody once.
I saw her for the first time on TV and I think that that lady on SNL has done her in.
"Biden says Vindman, not Rush, should have received the Medal of Freedom without realizing that it is a *civilian* award."
and most of the D's up there didn't want to kill Solemani -the Iranian general who killed innocents in the region and Americans for many many years.
Biden bragged about being part of the Iran deal which he declared ended Iran's nuclear ambitions and bragged about how he brought China into the Paris Climate Accord.
Iran never gave up nuclear ambitions, just arranged to get the US to provide updated nuclear technology and sanction relief in exchange for putting off nuclear bomb program for about five years. China and India gave no promises about cutting their carbon footprint, at least for a decade or two.
The Dem's believe that State Dept. and diplomacy will solve all military problems -- tell that to the Palestinians. Dem's believe Trump is a threat to NATO, yet only Trump has forced the NATO members to contribute $ to keep NATO in existence.
Can't wait until the debates with Trump.
Warren
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