Gee, where have we heard this before. In 2003, Dick Cheney assured us we'd be "greeted as liberators" in Iraq. https://t.co/gLXbQVsL5D
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January 3, 2020
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 229 of 229J. Farmer said...
I have since asked you half a dozen times to defend your conclusion that it was an accident, and you've steadfastly refused. I'll let the readers draw their own conclusions.
I'm confident they understand the status when the best argument you have left is that we intentionally bombed the Chinese embassy.
I bet curious latecomers are wondering what was discarded as too plausible before arriving at the conclusion this was your best remaining argument. Prove the Templars didn't worship a cat and kiss each others' anuses as part of their initiation ceremony!
@Rick:
I'm confident they understand the status when the best argument you have left is that we intentionally bombed the Chinese embassy.
No, no, Rick. It was just an accident. You know this because, uh, reasons.
WW1 The response was based on the fact that it would take Russia a full two weeks to mobilize its forces and France only 48 hours.
Get off it J Farmer. The power Dynamics of the US bombing the Chinese embassy versus Iran attacking our embassy via proxies are at minimum 3-orders of magnitude different. I do suspect however that Clinton used air quotes around accident
@Farmer;
Knowing you disagree with this situation but also believing you are a reasonable guy,
In your opinion, is there any way this can end up being a good thing?,
What were the policies that turned the Iraqis from celebrating our victory over Saddam to hating us?
Of course you don't worry. You, like every other keyboard cowboy, won't have to pay the price for this escalation.
Well that goes both ways. If we'd done nothing and Suleimani orchestrated attacks on American targets, you as a keyboard isolationist wouldn't have to pay the price for our appeasement.
News says Iran is considering cyber attack on USA.
Better not fuck with Twitter or Trump going to do something they will never forget.
@James K:
Well that goes both ways. If we'd done nothing and Suleimani orchestrated attacks on American targets, you as a keyboard isolationist wouldn't have to pay the price for our appeasement.
Economically sabotaging a country and trying to overthrow its regime is not "appeasement."
@Full Moon:
Knowing you disagree with this situation but also believing you are a reasonable guy,
In your opinion, is there any way this can end up being a good thing?
Not really. Anything that escalates tensions and brings us closer to direct confrontation with Iran is not a good thing.
@Howard:
Iran attacking our embassy via proxies
Can you explain to us how you know what Iran's level of involvement in the embassy attack was?
Economically sabotaging a country and trying to overthrow its regime is not "appeasement."
Huh? I was referring to your apparent preferred policy of doing nothing preemptive against threats to American targets.
You got me there Jay farmer. I guess I have to admit that I believe what I read in the funny papers. Also I believe everything that I've ever read about Iran's involvement with proxy militias and Terror groups throughout the region makes me suspect that it is very likely that we are not being lied to in this matter. But of course we can never know anything and a hundred percent certainty except that we will all die and Donald Trump does not have to pay taxes
@James K:
Huh? I was referring to your apparent preferred policy of doing nothing preemptive against threats to American targets.
Appeasement doesn't even make sense in that context. My preferred policy is that we not have a military presence in middle eastern countries.
Much being said that reason for killing at this time is big plan to murder diplomats and others.
If that has been planned, hard to imagine taking out the top guy would cancel the plan.
So, attacks in near future retaliation, or pre planned? Depends on who is answering the question.
Howard: "Donald Trump does not have to pay taxes..."
LOL
Can't you find a single thing to be right about? Its like you are a LLR-lefty Chuck mini-me.
In 2005 Trump paid $35 million in taxes on $150 million in income for an effective tax rate of 25% which was higher than obama and almost double Romney's.
Try harder.
My preferred policy is that we not have a military presence in middle eastern countries.
No embassies? Forbid travel by Americans (or tell them that they're on their own)? Do nothing preemptive even if attacks on NYC are discovered? How far would you go with that?
"We have two historical parallels to compare to Thursday’s events: Operation Praying Mantis in April 1988, when U.S. naval forces sank 1/3 of the Iranian navy in a matter of hours after repeatedly catching them dispersing naval mines against international oil tankers in the Persian Gulf; and the presumed Israeli assassination of Iranian-Lebanese terrorist Imad Mugniyeh in Damascus in February 2008.
In both cases, we were told Iran and their proxies were going to counter-attack with devastating lethality. Hundreds of Americans and Israelis were going to die. Thousands! The entire region was going to explode.
In the end what happened? Absolutely nothing.
That’s what I predict here as well."
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/01/bye-bye-suleymani-kenneth-r-timmerman/
@James K:
No embassies? Forbid travel by Americans (or tell them that they're on their own)? Do nothing preemptive even if attacks on NYC are discovered? How far would you go with that?
Embassies are not a military presence. And Americans who travel abroad by and large are on their own. Are there scenarios you can conjure where I would support military preemption? I do not doubt it.
mccullough: "I still don’t understand why we didn’t just let Saddam have Kuwait. That was a total blunder."
Well, that was a brief period I agreed with you.
Saddam was going into Saudi as soon as his tanks were refueled.
The error was Schwartzkopf's in allowing the Iraqis to keep their helicopters in the armistice. More important was the US ambassador's mistake in giving Saddam the idea that we would allow him to take Kuwait.
Remember that was back when we needed their oil. We don't anymore.
"Iran is the major open State supporter of terrorism in the region.
"They are constantly attacking their neighbors and subverting regimes."
When America does that, America-Love-Her-or-Die types call it "robust foreign policy" and "defending our freedom."
Someone buy Drago a sense of humor, stat. He never became a victim of my obvious trolls before.
I think the little story where Trump was supposed to consult with Adam Schiff and Schiff would keep the secret is just so sweet. In my little story Trump just shot the hidden gun out of the bad guy's hand.
For the rest, the narrative du jour is that Trump is destabilizing the world, causing anti-Semitic attacks in the US and forcing Iranian puppets to attack our embassy. Later he may cause us to spin off into the sun leading to climate change. This will cause instability in the waterless Mid-East and might attract a wandering asteroid, leading to a SMOD event. But Trump's cultish followers would vote for him anyway, the stupid, hulking brutes. In that case, we should game plan for 2024. Would Tulsi...
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Howard: "Someone buy Drago a sense of humor, stat. He never became a victim of my obvious trolls before."
Shorter Howard: Uh, I, uh, meant that. Yeah, that's the ticket! I meant to be that wrong all the time....
.....and my wife is Morgan Fairchild......
Morgan Fairchild? She's the type all you dudes who need a beard are attracted to. Too ferret faced for me.
Say goodnight, Dick
Howard: "Morgan Fairchild?"
It's a call back.
Boy, you and LLR-lefty Chuck are not having a very good day, are you?
Hang in there buddy. It's bound to get...well, for you, worse. But hang in there.
He was not wrong. There are huge numbers of nations and middle eastern people celebrating this action. I support the decision. Long overdue.
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