December 15, 2019

"US military opens investigation after West Point cadets and Annapolis midshipmen appeared to flash white power hand signs during the live broadcast of the Army-Navy game."

The Daily Mail reports.
At least two cadets and one midshipman were seen making the hand symbol. The hand sign is formed by joining the the index finger and thumb in a circle while extending the other three fingers, as in the traditional 'OK' symbol. A similar gesture is used in the so-called 'circle game,' in which the person making the gesture tries to trick someone into looking at it, and if successful gets to punch the onlooker in the arm. However, the ambiguous nature of the gesture is part of the appeal to extremists, according to the Anti-Defamation League.
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182 comments:

Ann Althouse said...

If you looked at this post in the first 2 minutes that it was up, I had the wrong Twitter embed, with only a still. Please watch the video that's there now.

AllenS said...

Big fucking deal. How about a big middle finger?

Fernandinande said...

It's not OK to be white.

I think this OK nonsense is the new version of holding your fingers in a V over someone's head.

Clyde said...

I’m offended by the cadet who chugged the Coke and then just dropped the can. Littering is not okay, Cadet!

wendybar said...

I can't post pictures here, but it seems President Barack Hussein Obama is a white supremacist who used this hand gesture many, many times..... Who knew???

Ralph L said...

The Commie Cadet scandal exposed a lack of discipline at WP. Overreacting now will just increase the cadets/mids' contempt for their superiors.

exhelodrvr1 said...

Scuba divers are incredibly racist. "Thumb's up" will be next. Apparently Obama, Hillary, et al were trying to infiltrate the white power movement when they used the symbol.

rehajm said...

He’s punking his fellow cadet with a simulated vagina. It’s like calling tour friend a pussy. The outrage you want is sexism not racism.

sunsong said...

racism is a huge problem in America, as is misogyny

egotism...feeling better than


some folks that's all they have is a cheap hit of "feeling better than"


it never lasts...

whitney said...

The ADL that promotes extreme ethno-nationalist for its own people but at any sign of white solidarity they descend like exterminators killing rats? That ADL? They can eff off

rehajm said...

I’m more outraged some of them were punked into a national product endorsement with free Coke products.

rehajm said...

Correction: I see it was a midshipman. A go navy beat army prank. Also supports my assertion..

MayBee said...

I think taking a symbol that has been around forever and trying to turn it into a racist symbol, then saying everyone who makes it is racist.....is insanity.

tim in vermont said...

some folks that's all they have is a cheap hit of "feeling better than"


it never lasts...


That’s why you guys have to keep coming up with new bullshit to accuse people you don’t like of. So you can feel superior. Nobody who doesn’t use Twitter all the time even knows that this is supposed to ba a “white power” hand gesture. But the OK sign has been around forever and is used almost universally. Some trolls on 4 chan don’t define our culture, except for people like you, that they can jerk around on a chain at will.

rhhardin said...

I've lost my bookmark to the Online Encyclopedia of French Hand Gestures.

MayBee said...

The real question is....is it a white power sign? When did that happen, who declared it so, and how did the information get out to all of the "OK" people or the circle game players?

tim maguire said...

as in the traditional 'OK' symbol.

Very much “as in”

tim in vermont said...

The real problem was the reception Trump got at the game. They had to come up with some response to dirty it up.

rehajm said...

The Perkins Should help develop a standardized hate sign language so we’re all on the same page. Would really help when watching NBA games...

tim in vermont said...

Meanwhile the left is refusing to accept the result of the election over in the UK now. I used to blame this on Hillary, but it’s pretty clear to me now that this is a “movement’ thing, the move to undermine democracy.

rhhardin said...

White power is blacks noticing that whites are smarter than them.

rehajm said...

The okay emoji is used in conjunction with the index finger emoji for sexy flirting. Someone’s making racial hay.

danoso said...

Isn’t that some silly game young boys play, where if you look you get punched or something? Seems pretty harmless, unless if you’re a lefty, in which case it’s like the Hindenburg blowing up.

MayBee said...

Skylark said...
Meanwhile the left is refusing to accept the result of the election over in the UK now. I used to blame this on Hillary, but it’s pretty clear to me now that this is a “movement’ thing, the move to undermine democracy.


If you think about it, there have been pretty continuous big leftist protests since the anti-globalization riots in the 1990s (or was it 80's- 90's) those morphed into anti globalization/anti war, which morphed into Anti-Scott Walker, which morphed into Occupy, which morphed into Resistance/Antifa/Extinction Rebellion....and now anti-Boris Johnson I guess.
I agree there is some movement, and there must be funding for it somewhere.

tim maguire said...

MayBee, it’s actually kind of a funny story. Of course, we all know it is and has been the ok symbol, which some kids use in a punching game. Some people on 4Chan, for a joke, spread a rumor that it is the White Power symbol. Some excitable people on twiter ran with it abd started calling people out. Some number of White Power people, hearing it’s their symbol, but not hearing how it came to be that way, started using it as their symbol.

Viola! The ok symbol is now the White Power symbol.

MayBee said...

Tim Maguire- it is kind funny! But also pretty scary. Anything can be turned into anything! And I don't mean the 4Chan people....I mean the people who then take it seriously. Stop fearing the online left so much, people!!!

MayBee said...

I'm trying to imagine being the person watching the Army Navy game...and instead of being awed by what these young people are accomplishing, searching for cadets you can accuse of being racist.

rhhardin said...

We'll find out who these white power people are when the movie comes out.

rhhardin said...

Whites, as far as I can tell, don't give blacks a moment's thought. They're far from being white power guys. They might suggest trying to fit in would be a good strategy for blacks, when it comes to their notice. It lowers the inefficiency of trades if you can rely on trust, so those trades work better for everybody. Otherwise they might not be worth doing.

Amadeus 48 said...

It was a joke. Unfortunately, a joke committed in the video age in an organization which has always lacked an official sense of humor and with a chain of command and political masters, which indeed all of us seem to have these days.

That first posting for those guys is going to be a bit rough. I hope their merry pranksterism survives it.

Danno said...

Who knew? Therefore I'm with MayBee.

Just think if the leftists start saying that folding your hands for prayer is a white power thingie.

stevew said...

He definitely makes the symbol, and the person to his left pushes his hand down. Given the hand gesture can mean multiple things it is offensive to me that the ADL presumes the most offensive meaning and motivation of the guy making it.

rhhardin said...

There's no swastika emoji.

Amadeus 48 said...

As to the UK, that vote was pretty overwhelming, wasn't it? They said they wanted a second referendum, and they got one. I'm with Boris on this one: leftie wankers all.

Josephbleau said...

I am the last to jump to conclusions but the two guys are up to a prank obviously, from displaying the flag thing to the clear exaggerated hand signs. Don’t know why they did this but neither have a future in their chosen profession, just for being creepy.

William said...

I think the three pointer hand gesture is meant to signify the ultimate ambiguity of hand gestures. I'm not sure if it mocks people who think it means something or if it really means something but not what you think or if it indicates membership in some dark brotherhood of Trump voters. The signal will remain ambiguous until Trump uses it.

Amadeus 48 said...

Hey sunsong--Remember, if you point at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you. How are you feeling today? Feeling better than those guys?

BUMBLE BEE said...

And, when said signal is coupled with "Okey Dokey Spanky", expresses fealty to George McFarland, Hitler's right hand in the USA. These are journalists?

William said...

Maybe it means that you're into post modern irony. If that young man loses his career because of a hand gesture that would be either the ultimate in post modern irony or the absolute reverse of post modern irony. It's hard to get an accurate reading on these things.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Too much stepped on Ecstasy passed around at their parties, I'd wager.

gilbar said...

Serious Question
if a bunch of Cadets (Black Cadets) had stood there doing the Black Power Salute...
What would our media say about that?

What did they say when Athletes (Black Athletes) did it at the Olympics ?

Amadeus 48 said...

William--Trump uses OK all the time, as do Obama, Pelosi, AOC, etc.

I even know a joke I first heard in 1964 where a chimpanzee uses it to express "fuck you."

This a 4Chan prank of the first order. That anyone is nattering about this is a triumph of meme creation. Those cadets, however, have some real maturity and judgment issues.

I hope they second Michael Horowitz to the investigation. If anyone can get to the bottom of their motivation, he can.

Leland said...

I saw a lot of immaturity in the video, including what Clyde noticed, which I thought was the most egregious. It was clear the cadets were messing around with the reporter, and the dropped trash behind the reporter clinched that to me. That's poor behavior best remedied with lost weekend privileges and some extra push-ups.

But, if there is going to be an investigation; I want to know who appointed cadets that behave like that.

Fernandinande said...

Scuba divers are incredibly racist.

So are Buddhists, which might also explain their Swastikas.

Captain BillyBob said...

Looks like the hand sign for a flying asshole to me

Laughing Phoenix said...

This a 4Chan prank of the first order

Yeah, Milo Yiannopolousos claimed on the legion of skanks podcast that the "OK as whitepower" thing started with him trolling a reporter. The fashtag thing hasn't taken off yet though: https://youtu.be/92wNTZcGLiE


RMc said...

I want so badly to live in a world where everybody else isn't swallowing crazy pills all the damn time. But I can't.

Beasts of England said...

’I want to know who appointed cadets that behave like that.’

Agreed.

Browndog said...

"Covington Catholic and the Betsey Ross flag says hi."

JAORE said...

The upside down "OK" sign was from a "made you look" game. Person A flashes the sign. If person B looks, Person B gets to pop them on the arm.

Like the Betsy Ross BS the humorless scolds on the left are like bit coin miners in their fervor to find evidence that others are RACIST!

Jeff Brokaw said...

100% pure manufactured outrage. And it doesn’t even matter what the specific intent was.

n.n said...

White power. Ok? Really? This fascist enterprise has diversity (e.g. racism) racket written all over it, and urban dictionary and myths.

Big Mike said...

My opinion is that the type of people dumb enough to believe that the “OK” sign is a white power symbol are not fit to lick dirt off the soles of the shoes of the cadets and midshipmen after they’ve walked through a cow pasture. As much bullshit as SJWs spew out of their mouths, they should be used to the flavor.

tcrosse said...

The gesture under discussion was used in the 1950's in ads for Ballantine Beer, to denote their three-ring logo. You would flash it to order a cool, refreshing Ballantine.

stlcdr said...

rhhardin said...
There's no swastika emoji.


I’m sure you could make one something like vxL or use some of those obscure Unicode characters.

Doesn’t look like a swastika, you say? Well, it seems it doesn’t matter to some people what anything is, it’s what they say it is...

Jeff Brokaw said...

A grown-up culture would not get the vapors over some hand signals between two random and anonymous people.

Who gives a shit?!

Woke culture is bullshit and I’m already sick of it. It makes us into drooling reactionary morons.

n.n said...

I can't post pictures here, but it seems President Barack Hussein Obama is a white supremacist who used this hand gesture many, many times..... Who knew???

He also gestured with his arm, hand, and fingers extended in a grand gesture.

rehajm said...

makes us into drooling reactionary morons.

What’s this us stuff? Is it Festivus yet? I gotta lot of problems with you people...

n.n said...

There's no swastika emoji.

Ok. It is a symbol or icon of good fortune.

Bob Smith said...

https://youtu.be/ebLaWzjQ2Xg

Bob Smith said...

https://youtu.be/ebLaWzjQ2Xg

n.n said...

Is it Festivus yet? I gotta lot of problems with you people...

Ok. Exactly.

iowan2 said...

I'm so old I remember when context mattered

Leland said...

Was that TV shot meant to be an advertisement for CocaCola? I noticed that all the cadets seemed to be holding Cokes, which seemed odd to me. How many people all drink the same beverage? At the same time? And those are all cans, which I haven't had at a ballpark in years. Maybe the sponsor is just pissed that their subliminal ad was ruined.

n.n said...

punked into a national product endorsement with free Coke products.

Were there polar bears? They have defied WWF's assertion of endangerment, environmentalists' empathetic appeals, survived the shifting sands of [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] climate change, and are ready for their closeup. Ok.

gspencer said...

All I can say is that the Coca Cola Company is very pleased.

Anonymous said...

time maguire: Of course, we all know it is and has been the ok symbol, which some kids use in a punching game. Some people on 4Chan, for a joke, spread a rumor that it is the White Power symbol. Some excitable people on twiter ran with it abd started calling people out. Some number of White Power people, hearing it’s their symbol...

That sounds plausible up to the "[s]ome number of White Power people" part. I'm skeptical about the existence of such creatures, outside of prison gangs and the perfervid imaginations of grievance hustlers and their marks.

n.n said...

Ok. The witch hunts and warlock trials are no longer viable, and the hunters and judges are now exposed to public scrutiny. What are the Democrats to do but dwell in their diversitist roots and project in order to exonerate (i.e. remove their "burden") themselves. This ball of yarns is progressing. Happy Festivus!

Anonymous said...

sunsong: egotism...feeling better than


some folks that's all they have is a cheap hit of "feeling better than"


it never lasts...


Is this a cry for help, sunsong? I know this is a hell of an addiction and it's going to be a long, hard slog for you to get clean...but remember, we're all rooting for you.

tcrosse said...

The Italians have an entire lexicon of hand gestures, which are not ambiguous at all. Best to keep your hands in your pockets.

AllenS said...

Lighten up, everyone with this "they are cadets!" bullshit. Most of them are not able to go into a bar and order a drink. They are not old enough.

chuck said...

News from planet twitter. Meanwhile, the sun also rises.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Unlike the FBI's miscreants, Harsh penalty is called for.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/predication_is_for_chumps_the_sorry_lesson_linking_crossfire_hurricane_to_robert_hanssen.html

EdwdLny said...

" White power " ? Really ? Oh good grief, bugger off and kiss my ass you ignorant twits.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Big brother is watching. No immature stupid stuff.

rhhardin said...

They take in boys and turn them into women.

dbp said...

The push to anathematize the OK sign is a power-move by those who think, correctly if they succeed, they are in charge. If they control language, they control what can be said and what cannot be said. What better way to neutralize your opposition than to make it impossible for them to make their case?

As a side note: I hated the circle game in the Marines, but juvenile as it was, trying to make it seem like some sort of racial thing is pure evil.

bagoh20 said...

This is another example of the dishonesty of the anti-Trump crowd. I'm sure some people are just ignorant of the facts, but by now many have learned that this is a prank started by 4Chan and others to suck people in just as it has, but those people know that now, and are still dishonestly pretending they don't.

I've been asking my friends if they know any, or even know anybody who knows any white supremacists. I haven't found anyone yet. White supremacists are less common than even honest leftists, which I've also never seen.

bagoh20 said...

What does it mean when a Black person does it, because there are lots of videos of that too.

bagoh20 said...

What's the chances that the 2020 election issues will be buried under a Democrat shit pile of bogus racism charges against Trump voters? What's the percentage of stooges who will fall for it yet again. One thing I know is that a lot less of them will be black this time.

Jeff Brokaw said...

@rehajm 7:56

LOL! I guess “some of us” would be more accurate.

Very few drooling morons in the Althouse blog commentariat, certainly.

Jeff Brokaw said...

@rehajm 7:56

LOL. Very few drooling morons in the Althouse commentariat, most certainly. Maybe one or two. 😉

Michael K said...

Blogger rhhardin said...

White power is blacks noticing that whites are smarter than them.



And leftists offering to make it better as long as they vote the right way.

Sunsong, six Democrats went to Trump's Christmas thing. Don't cry.

Fernandinande said...

I'm so old I remember when context mattered

I have a dream that four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the gestures of their hands but by the color of those hands.

PackerBronco said...

Some people just have a need to feel that they are victims ... of something. The question the Dems don't want these people to ask themselves is: "If I'm not a victim, who am I?"

PackerBronco said...

Some people just have a need to feel that they are victims ... of something. The question the Dems don't want these people to ask themselves is: "If I'm not a victim, who am I?"

Unclebiffy said...

Young people like to test limits, especially young men. I hope these institutions have the wisdom to take these young men aside and remind them of their purpose and what they represent. They should highlight the point by providing them ample time to contemplate their transgression while walking tours for about 100 hours. Finally, it should be explained to them that if they ever show their ass like that again in public they’ll be bounced out of their respective academies.

What this should not be is an opportunity to force the entire corps of cadets and midshipmen to endure more racial, sexual harassment and sensitivity training. That action is what prompts this nonsense in the first place. Let’s hope the Sup’s and the Comm’s of both the Naval Academy and West Point have the wisdom to understand that.

Narayanan said...

Hindus have not given up on swastika as one of their religion symbol.

Narayanan said...

Hindus have not given up on swastika as one of their religion symbol.

Birkel said...

OK, Boomer.
👌

Narayanan said...

Leland said
But, if there is going to be an investigation; I want to know who appointed cadets that behave like that...
____&&&&-----
I want to know how the investigators get selected and why in particular code violation process.

madAsHell said...

Ballantine

That was the beer that they let you steal from the grocery store!!

Francisco D said...

OK

I get the joke.

Mark said...

the ambiguous nature of the gesture is part of the appeal to extremists

You mean it appeals to leftist/progressive extremists, who will use any pretext to attack others.

So I caught a few scenes of South Park the other day where Butters parents are punishing him for making funny faces -- "But Mom, this is just the way I look."

Mark said...

Don't tell me . . .

Mark said...

OK, who do we have to thank for this??

This is why we can't have nice things.

Mary Beth said...



My thoughts exactly. Logo facing front and everything.

Seeing Red said...

The ok symbol is used by divers to let other divers know that diver is OK.

This is just stupid.

Jazz hands is stupid instead of clapping.

rcocean said...

This country is going insane. The OK sign is a "WHite power signal" LOL! But we must take is seriously because the ADL (let us all bow our heads) says so. And they run America, I suppose.

Do realize that someone was monitoring the game, looking for people in the stands to flash the "OK sign" and then getting happy they could snitch on someone for doing something verboten? Do understand how nuts that is?

pacwest said...

"Scuba divers are incredibly racist."

Yes, but the 'are you OK?' sign is for underwater where no one else can see it. At the surface it is fingertips on the head.

Incredibly tricky those underwater racists are. With luck they may avoid the re-education camps entirely.

Balfegor said...

re: rhhardin:

There's no swastika emoji

Don't need one. It's a regular unicode character: 卍卐

rcocean said...

Interesting how many people WANT to think the OK sign = white power. WANT to get upset about it. And WANT to punish/destroy someone's life for doing it either purposely or as a prank or just out of ignorance.

That's kinda sick. IF those cadets had run out onto the field, during the game, to protest Antisemitism, or Climate Change, they'd be hailed as heroes by the Left. this is NOT about discipline - its about brainwashing.

reader said...

My husband, brother-in-law, niece, and nephew constantly play the circle game. They even play it at the dinner table on Sunday despite repeated talking-tos.

What’s next on banned gestures, devil horns and hang loose?

Mark said...

I see elsewhere a return of YKW. Is that the reason?

Seeing Red said...

I think Trump was there. That could be why this stupidity happens.

rcocean said...

The ADL has decreed you can't make the OK sign anymore. Hey, whatever they want is OK with Me.

Freeman Hunt said...

No, see how it's pointed down? That symbol means, "I hate being white!" The other is more sideways, and everyone knows what that means, and, though it has nothing to do with race or sex, I can't imagine anyone would type it in good company!

Amadeus 48 said...

If only they had given that reporter the bunny ears. Oh, the humanity!

Amadeus 48 said...

Re:bunny ears, I see that Fernandistein got there at 6:02 am. Sorry.

Ken B said...

This was a 4chan hoax. 4chan made the discussions public. This is not a racist symbol, the claim it is is a 4chan hoax.
JFC what a moronic culture.

Anonymous said...

for the record, the guys making the sign, if it is meaningful, are Navy Midshipmen, not Army Cadets

Ken B said...

Holy shit. Birkel wins the thread.

mockturtle said...

Obviously, he should have his hand cut off for this blatant display of racism. It would warn others that this behavior cannot and will not be tolerated./s

Or maybe the Daily Mail should start reporting on real news.

Yancey Ward said...

There might not be a Swastika emoji, but there is a Nazi one:

🙋‍♂️

n.n said...

卐 Good fortune. May we not live in interesting times. OK.

n.n said...
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sunsong said...

Michael K

I'm just fine with 6 dems going to donald's thing


donald will beimpeached Wednesday

don't cry

sunsong said...

"There is tons of evidence and data which says impeachment of President trump will politically help the democrats and there is literally no data which suggests it will hurt democrats running in 2020."
~ Matthew Dowd

Narr said...

Back so soon from safeguarding the Kurds and the territorial integrity of Syria, sunsong?

Video proves only that youngsters gonna youngster.

Narr
And that's "OK" (wink wink secret hand gesture) with me!

Michael said...

They should have flashed The Shocker.

Yancey Ward said...

You know a TDS sufferer is losing the argument when they start linking or quoting NeverTrumpers.

Marc in Eugene said...

All nonsense of course. They were obviously amusing themselves (whether that broke the rules, who knows; some of 'em in the front row barely let themselves smile). And the dropping of the Coke can was a theatrical, comical gesture that the other cadet bystanding understood and visibly reacted to; the purpose escapes me, of course, but I'm not a cadet/midshipman or 19.

Who is Prisoner?

buwaya said...

If I recall correctly, it has been asserted that "bad boys" in the service academies are more likely to perform spectacular feats of initiative in combat.

Good boys are less likely to have the inherent aggression.

Michael K said...

donald will beimpeached Wednesday

don't cry


Suicide is painless, I understand. At least after the first half second. Enjoy yourself.

I'm laughing. You lefties are ineducable. See UK for example.

n.n said...

Hindus have not given up on swastika as one of their religion symbol.

Nor should they because of cultural appropriation.

Also, it's OK for Obama to raise an outstretched arm, open hand, and extended fingers, to signal to his people. However, the fists (as in fist bumps), an emoticon depicting aggression, have got to go. Unclench your fingers, let your hate and anger flow and leave your mind and body.

That said, may these interesting times pass with less fanfare that we may deserve. #HateLovesAbortion

Amadeus 48 said...

Let's see what happens. Impeachment will be just another campaign issue. I wonder who will get the most out of it? So far, the GOP has picked up one new House member (Van Drew, NJ), but they need to do more than that.

SDaly said...

The trolls need to start co-opting left-ish symbols. The "peace" hand sign with fingers making a "V"? that means victory over minorities (or simultaneous digital penetration of vagina and anus), etc.

MayBee said...

Birkel, that was genius

MayBee said...

byway- yeah, I was going to say. It seems to me the military is full of risk-takers.

Michael K said...

The real crime was 70,000 people cheering the president.

Deevs said...

Weird how the people in the Twitter feed claim it can't be the circle game because the hands aren't below the waist, yet the guys aren't holding their hands vertically as would be typical for the OK gesture. I have a feeling there's some confirmation bias going on here.

That said, it's not a white supremacist symbol. As pointed out, it's a 4Chan troll. Anyone going along with the idea is giving a whole lot of cultural power to white supremacists.

narciso said...

the daily mail is less prone to entertaining such foolishness on their shores, more so abroad, but the stupid burns like sulfuric acid,

Roy Lofquist said...

Blogger tim maguire said...

Viola! The ok symbol is now the White Power symbol.

--

"The viola is a string instrument that is bowed or played with varying techniques. It is slightly larger than a violin and has a lower and deeper sound."

The word you're looking for is:

voila
[vwäˈlä]
EXCLAMATION
there it is; there you are.
"“Voila!” she said, producing a pair of strappy white sandals"

Pronounced "walla" as in "Walla Walla Wash and Kalamazoo"

This is not a knock on you, Tim. It's a very common mistake. It's just that it reminds me of many hours spent in a classroom and language lab. Hours that, in retrospect, would have been better spent in a pool hall.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...
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Static Ping said...

The "OK" symbol is only a white supremacist symbol for (a) 4Chan pranksters and (b) idiots.

As I have mentioned before, our elites are, on the whole, morons.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

"A similar gesture is used in the so-called 'circle game...". Yes, a gesture so similar that it's exactly the same fucking gesture!

The ADL is one of the biggest producers and promoters of antisemitism going. It's JDL Lite.

Jim at said...

So now the military is 'investigating' a 4chan prank.

What a stupid time to be alive.

rehajm said...

Pronounced "walla" as in "Walla Walla Wash and Kalamazoo

“walla” in “Walla Walla Washington” is pronounced wall- ah

“voila” in “Voila!” is pronounced “vwall-ah”.

Back to the lab with you...

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

"Weird how the people in the Twitter feed claim it can't be the circle game because the hands aren't below the waist..."

If he held his hand below the waist, it would have been off camera.

Jim at said...

racism is a huge problem in America, as is misogyny - sunsinga

Yeah. It's such a huge problem that you have to make shit up by trying to hang black TV stars at 2 am in Chicago.

Known Unknown said...

4Chan wins again.

Known Unknown said...

"There is tons of evidence and data which says impeachment of President trump will politically help the democrats and there is literally no data which suggests it will hurt democrats running in 2020."
~ Matthew Dowd"

Matthew Dowd, also known as Nostradumbass.

reader said...

To clarify, the talking-to my family receives isn’t for making a now politicized gesture it is for punching each other at the dinner table. There is a time and place for horsing around and my Sunday dinner table isn’t one of them.

walter said...

Dan Crenshaw
‏Verified account @DanCrenshawTX
1h1 hour ago

Dan Crenshaw Retweeted NBC News

Obviously this was #circlegame. Childish, but harmless. Those in outrage media know this, but remember: the goal of outrage culture isn’t the truth, it’s to make normal behavior seem offensive and dangerous, thus giving the mob justification for public shaming and woke scolding.

--
Hunter Biden is known to flash the White Powder sign.

Anonymous said...

Hindus have not given up on swastika as one of their religion symbol.

Sadly, the Navajo Indians have. What they call the "Whirling Logs" theme was abandoned in World War 2, but before then it was frequent in Navajo jewelry, weaving, pottery, and basketry. My grandfather lived in Flagstaff in those days and collected some Navajo art that can't be displayed or worn today, unless you don't mind being thought of as a Klansman.

Rich Vail said...

This is horseshoe of the highest order.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Careful. Teh Obama "O" hole is very close to being racist and white power.

Steven said...

Every reporter and editor pushing this bullshit about 👌 should be fired by their publisher.

tim in vermont said...

You know why Dylan Roof claimed he did the horrific thing he did? Because he couldn’t find anybody who shared his abhorrent views in real life. But we are supposed to believe that there are white supremacists behind every tree. I am sure there are a few people who have their opinions that they keep to themselves, but white supremacists as any kind of public or political movement? Where are they IRL?

Charlie Currie said...

I'm with josephbleau above - neither cadet takes seriously the good fortune they have at being at the academy. They are not fit to command. The young men and women who bravely serve our country deserve better from those who would lead them in battle.

But, of course, this makes them highly desired at and suitable to serve at Pentagon.

narciso said...

this was the week a Farrakhan follower, and a splinter of the same movement that harassed nick sandman, was responsible for the willfull murder of jews,

narciso said...

but he's a jew bater, and a colleague in mind with keith Ellison, and a felon and prohibited possessor, so squirrel,

narciso said...

in the army of the uk, love of country is considered an example of extremism,

buwaya said...

"They are not fit to command. "

Those who disobey and dare are those who are fit to command.

Those who obey best are fit to occupy desks at the pentagon.
But that is not where wars are won. And it is amazing at how easily replaced such desk-sitters are.

History is an enemy of grand ideas of military orderliness.

rehajm said...

Thank you for the Nazi pronunciation there

It’s the French pronunciation (they’re the ones eager to surrender to the Nazis)...

Anonymous said...

Skookum John: Sadly, the Navajo Indians have. What they call the "Whirling Logs" theme was abandoned in World War 2, but before then it was frequent in Navajo jewelry, weaving, pottery, and basketry. My grandfather lived in Flagstaff in those days and collected some Navajo art that can't be displayed or worn today, unless you don't mind being thought of as a Klansman.

I occasionally get colorful scotomata that always remind me of common designs in Navajo art.

Migraine symptoms are white supremacist.

Jim at said...

neither cadet takes seriously the good fortune they have at being at the academy.

Eh, they're at the Army/Navy game. Maybe the one time of the year they get to let their hair down, so to speak.

If this is an isolated incident, so be it. The fact anybody is focusing on it at all is more disconcerting to me.

FullMoon said...
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FullMoon said...

Origin of White Power Hoax

mockturtle said...

I occasionally get colorful scotomata that always remind me of common designs in Navajo art.

You, too, Angle? Do you ever get series of numbers?

Michael K said...

Those who obey best are fit to occupy desks at the pentagon.
But that is not where wars are won. And it is amazing at how easily replaced such desk-sitters are


Never forget. “I divide my officers into four classes as follows: The clever, the industrious, the lazy, and the stupid. Each officer always possesses two of these qualities.

Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite nerves and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous.”
- General Freiherr von Hammerstein-Equord

AllenS said...

Charlie Currie and josephbleau did either of you serve in the armed forces? If so, let me know what rank you achieved and where if any combat experiences that you had.

narciso said...

what I was hinting at,


https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1206243795219542016

JamesB.BKK said...

Ann, one demerit for paying any measure of care to this hoax perpetrated by crazed and cruel people at the ADL and SPLC.

JamesB.BKK said...

And the defamers in the media organs promoting them and their sick ideas.

FullMoon said...

'49er running back flashed OK sign after a good run. Will it hit the news?

Gospace said...

From what I've read, since I couldn't watch the game, Army players 55 and 31 refused to shake either the President's or SECDEF'S hand.

UCMJ Article 88- Contempt toward officials
UCMJ Article 133- Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman.

133 hasn't received gender neutral language yet...

In any event, since that was broadcast and witnessed by many, such conduct is a clear violation of the UCMJ.

When's the court martial or non-judicial punishment?

Milwaukie guy said...

SDaly: The "peace" hand sign with fingers making a "V"? that means victory over minorities (or simultaneous digital penetration of vagina and anus), etc.

You are sadly behind the times. The two-finger salute means that there are only two genders. Of course, it's still sort of Nazi. Get with the program, comrade. Do you know your other hand symbols? I think you need to study Babylon Bee.

Paddy O said...

"in the army of the uk, love of country is considered an example of extremism,"

This is why they all are wearing coats nowadays

Gospace said...

After commenting on this in a few Facebook groups and other blogs, I've come to a conclusion.

Liberals are easily duped. They actually believe the AOK signal used for, well, forever, is a white supremacist thing. Nothing can dissuade them from this view. Even if you point out articles on teh 4chan trolling - it's white supremacy! Because someone said so!

Facts, history, pictures of blacks both recently and in history using it to mean "AOK" are completely immaterial. It's a racist symbol and that's all there is to it, it's not up for debate or discussion.

I was told on Facebook I wouldn't recognize white supremacy if it hit me in the face. I was very tempted to write back: "You're right, I wouldn't. I've never seen or recognized any anywhere. Is there a handbook you recommend since you know so much? How about a toll free number for advice on how to notice it? Or do you give lessons?" I was tempted, but I suspect that amount of sarcasm directed at a liberal would result in the dreaded Facebook banhammer.

The ever watchful media is 100% to blame for this nonsense being taken seriously. Well, by those who take it seriously. I seriously think that the military officials launching an investigation ought be fired for loss of confidence in their ability to lead and command.

JamesB.BKK said...

Frankly, these people are not taking well the utter repudiation of their la-la-la-ing about their orchestrated "browning of America" (their words) in the weeks leading up to the election. There are videos on You-tube of declaring victory too soon. The consequences are usually some dude losing a race or crashing his bike, but the delaying during returns, holding up reporting on clear outcomes in MI, WI, etc., and open sobbing on the day after this past presidential election are the first-and-away classics. So much whining and gnashing of teeth and complaints by some idiot that gets cameras pointed at him by other idiots about whitelash. (It's a stupid play on words: from backlash, to blacklash, to whitelash (I guess; it's pretty stupid) by the same dummies / word-worriers that get bent out of shape when someone uses the perfectly useful word niggardly to describe a cheapskate, such as the ADL and SPLC.

Robert Cook said...

The traditional "OK" signal is held hand UP, whereas this guy is holding his hand DOWN. I have never seen anyone give the "OK" in this way. I don't presume to know what he wanted to communicate, but it is not "OK."

Narr said...

Well, when I was of a like age to the cadets and middies, the palm-down OK sign was "eat me!"

I.e., here's my tubesteak.

Narr
It's like some people skipped high-school altogether

Narr said...

Well, when I was of a like age to the cadets and middies, the palm-down OK sign was "eat me!"

I.e., here's my tubesteak.

Narr
It's like some people skipped high-school altogether

Robert Cook said...

BTW: I had no idea what the Circle Game was. I know the song by Joan Mitchell, but I never played the game or knew anyone who played the game, and I had never heard the term "the circle game" anywhere but Mitchell's song. However, in looking it up, I found an article that describes it as a game "every child played." Well, not this child, and no others of my acquaintance.

JamesB.BKK said...

Robert Cook may have identified a new distress signal. Or, he is richly deserving of the mockery that has entered his brain due to the effects of light bouncing off some fellers' hands and crashing into his eyeholes. Better go get those photons washed off.

JAFC said...

https://rockemsocks.com/collections/circle-game

FullMoon said...

Perfect !

"Gospace said...

After commenting on this in a few Facebook groups and other blogs, I've come to a conclusion.

Liberals are easily duped. They actually believe the AOK signal used for, well, forever, is a white supremacist thing. Nothing can dissuade them from this view. Even if you point out articles on teh 4chan trolling - it's white supremacy! Because someone said so!"

Robert Cook said...

The traditional "OK" signal is held hand UP, whereas this guy is holding his hand DOWN. I have never seen anyone give the "OK" in this way. I don't presume to know what he wanted to communicate, but it is not "OK."

12/16/19, 8:42 AM


mikeski said...

whereas this guy is holding his hand DOWN

Which, of course, makes it "not a power sign", since the 3 upraised fingers are the "W", and the loop-and-forearm are the "P".

So they're flashing a "bm" sign, not a "wp" one. Maybe they're indicating that they need to use the restroom?

Unknown said...

I work at the VA. I SEE MY COWORKERS DOING THIS ALL THE TIME. BLACK AND WHITE. I ASKED THEM WHAT ITS ABOUT AND THEY SAID ITS A UNIVERSAL SIGN FOR ASSHOLE!!!

JoyD said...

They just struck me as acting silly, as looking foolish. Here they are, supposedly the best and the brightest, but they’re just kids all wound up at the big game.

Marc in Eugene said...

Most often, I forget about these posts quickly. This time, I noticed the latest comment, last evening ("just kids all wound up at the big game"), and a memory of reading Evan Connell's Son of the Morning Star about the spectacular and in some ways quite unsympathetic career of General George Custer flashed through my head. I seem to recall a number of acts of foolishness during his West Point career.