"Up to 200 lawyers wearing traditional black suits stormed the Punjab Institute of Cardiology (PIC), smashing windows, doors and equipment and setting a police van ablaze. Television reports showed some of the lawyers armed with handguns while riot police fired tear gas to try to quell the mob. Lawyers could be seen standing on the bonnet of a burning police vehicle and scuffling with officers. Doctors and nurses fled the hospital to escape the violence, leaving intensive care patients unattended.... Lahore government official Kamran Ali told Reuters the lawyers were enraged by an earlier incident where doctors allegedly beat a lawyer at the hospital over his refusal to get in a queue of patients. The lawyers were particularly angry that the doctors filmed and shared the beating on social media, he said."
The Telegraph reports.
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57 comments:
Mobs of lawyers usually kill via stupid consent decrees on "environmental" actions.
Really, who hasn't wanted to beat a lawyer?
Remind me not to go to Pakistan anytime soon.
Sharia Lawyers just can't get no respect. So immediate use of violence is what they see in the Muslim law.
Inside every lawyer is a hooligan trying to get out.
Put Pakistan on the Muslim ban list
"Three heart patients died after a mob of lawyers rampaged through a Lahore hospital in a dispute with doctors."
Lawyers and doctors fight it out, while people who have hearts suffer and die.
Sounds about right, but is it news?
Well, Althouse, Shakespeare was right, wasn't he?
Whoa. SO glad to be American.
oh geez. Don't give Antifa leftists any more ideas.
Well, lawyers. (shrug)
Paging Dr Howard, Dr Fine, Dr Howard.
One group is needed.
The other is not.
The lawyers should retreat.
They'll lose if broad society is forced to choose.
What is it about mobs of protesting lawyers and Pakistan?
This bad lawyer conduct might result in a private reprimand from the Pakistan Office of Lawyer Regulation. Sanction appealed, and then overturned of course.
A mob of lawyers. An apt description of the impeachment hearings.
Lawyers don't blow themselves up. Which is good, but not an unalloyed good.
Lawyers, defending a guy who acted unfairly, after he was beaten by doctors who took an oath to do no one harm.
I LIKE IT.
We have an adversarial system. Ergo: for every bad lawyer there is a good lawyer. And they both want to win their case before the jury. That's what drives their future business.
The knee jerk hate for lawyers seems to come from those hired by Government and Monopoly businesses playing the rigged games. I hate those lawyers too.
Culture matters.
This is what happens when civilization is culturally appropriated.
Pakistan is outside the Pale, which used to be the limit of civilization.
the doctors filmed and shared the beating on social media
Of course They omit the good part, namely a link to that video.
“The Pale” actually refers to a specific area surrounding the city of Dublin Ireland. I used to do IT work in many law offices in Ireland and while waiting for backups to run or databases to rebuild, I would read whatever books were to hand. Unsurprisingly, this often meant books on Irish law.
How to get a mob of lawyers to run toward you? Wave two hundred dollar bills in the air.
How to get lawyers to run away from you? Wave the dinner check/bar tap in the air.
Do they have socialized medicine in Pakistan?
Off with their heads!
I mean, the queues might be REAL long...
In Pakistan, as much of the world, manifestations like this can come across as a demonstration of power. Power=prestige. Power is shown by who one is allowed to beat without consequences.
Yes it is Bloods vs Crips, but in this case between professional guilds. I recall similar hostilities between Buddhist monasteries.
There is very little sense of "civility", or not quite in the way Americans think of it. The world is diverse. Pay attention to it, it offers ideas about what possibilities actually exist, which of your constraints are really unexamined taboos. What strategies and tactics are available with which to outmaneuver your opponents.
"a mob of lawyers"
Com'n, lets get accurate here. The operative fact isn't that they are lawyers.
It's that they're Muslims.
Violence, it's the Islamic way.
The doctors are also Muslims.
The lawyers in this case aren't Sharia lawyers, but secular ones, the guild that operates Pakistans more or less still British-style legal system.
The fighting between guilds is medieval in its methods.
More modern peoples do the same, but usually less physically.
...but is it news?
This post by Althouse has no commentary by her. I find that fascinating. It is as if she is holding up an ink blot for us to identify. Will we focus on lawyers? Will we talk about Muslims? I like this response:
A mob of lawyers. An apt description of the impeachment hearings.
Maybe the law professor was looking for buwaya's comprehensive analysis?
So, how will the doctors' malpractice insurers resolve the liability issue with the legal malpractice carriers? Pistols at 20 paces? Or scimitars to the death?
Daniel writes: “The Pale” actually refers to a specific area surrounding the city of Dublin Ireland.
It's much more than that. Pale is an archaic Middle English term which originally meant a territory or defensive area within a specific boundary or under a given jurisdiction. Where the borderline did not correspond to a natural feature such as a river or coastline it would be demarcated using an artificial structure such as an earthen rampart — Offa's Dyke, for example — or a line of wooden stakes, hence the term, pale being ultimately derived from the Latin pālus, a stake or prop. This sense of the term survives in the word palisade.
The meaning of pale as a boundary of jurisdiction or governance occurs more often than just the Irish example. There was the Pale of Calais, the region of Franch under direct English rule proclaimed by Edward III in 1360 which persisted until 1558 when the House of Valois finally wrested control of Calais from Mary Tudor. In Russian history, we have the Pale of Settlement (1791-1917), the demarcated limits of the Jewish presence within the tsarist empire. The term even appears in the history of the Holocaust. National Socialist propaganda sometimes euphemistically referred to the "Pale of Settlement" as the ultimate destination of deported Jews.
Today the term mostly occurs in the phrase beyond the pale as in outside bounds of morality, good behavior, or judgment in civilized company. The just-so story that informs us that beyond the pale acquired this meaning from its use in Ireland is just that, a just-so story. There is evidence the figurative sense of beyond the pale was in use in Chaucer's time.
Good business development plan. Now they can sue the Doctors for malpractice in the three deaths.
A luggage of lawyers.
MUSLIM lawyers. We may never know their true depravity.
The Pale was the secured area in and around Dublin. They would have called it the Green Zone, but that's all of Emerald Isle.
How much of a shithole does your country have to be when doctors beat asshole lawyers trying to cut the line and the lawyers respond with an armed riot?
Lawyers are proof positive that women can get pregnant from anal sex.
The WaPo says they're being charged with treason.
A mob of lawyers.
I always thought it was a gaggle of lawyers???
traditionalguy said...
We have an adversarial system. Ergo: for every bad lawyer there is a good lawyer.
This doesn't immediately follow. I'm going to need you to show your work.
I always thought it was a gaggle of lawyers???
The correct term for three or more lawyers acting in concert is riot, as in "a riot of lawyers attacked a cardiac hospital in Pakistan." Three or more lawyers acting in concert are seldom sufficiently organized to be classed as a mob.
The correct term for three or more lawyers acting in concert is riot
I though a group of living lawyers was a conspiracy. However, ss the old joke goes, the name for a group of deceased lawyers is a good start.
Allahu akbar.
You can take the people out of the 7th Century but you can't take the 7th Century out of the people.
Sounds like a nice place to retire, is it cheap, I'll put it on my list.
Off topic: Britain's NHS seems to employ a good number of physicians from both India and Pakistan. I wonder how they get along?
The proper response to any mob of lawyers is volley fire.
The doctors should go and ransack a court of law in response.
In Pakistan they are not too shy to do outright what US doctors and lawyers do under cover of government intervention and litigation and with a fat dollop of fake solemnity.
Everybody being all high and mighty with their anti-Paki sentiments might reflect on how in the USA cities and counties got control of fire departments and emergency services. These matters are often orchestrated through false flag fisticuffs, as it ever was.
We had a Pakistani Dr. in the practice we use, I told my wife that if I was ever run over by a goat cart I would know exactly where to go.
Pakistanis must be pretty talented if they can get goats to pull carts.
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