December 9, 2019

In the Monday fog, a hidden sunrise.

1. I could hear rain as the sunrise time (7:18) approached, so I considered skipping a day. It was foggy too, but not foggy enough to worry about the drive. I stepped outside in my slippers to check the intensity of the rain. It was exactly the kind of rain that, years ago, I started calling my favorite kind of precipitation — little droplets that seem suspended like a mist.

2. It feels nice on the skin, gentle, though the look of things is rather creepy. At 7:21:

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3. Something that makes a run happen is to not think about it much. Just do one thing after another. Get your shoes on, your jacket, put the right things in your pocket, get in the car. Don't even think ahead to the next street after the next turn until you've turned. Don't imagine getting out of the car, just continue until the point where you get out of the car. And so forth. Isn't that how we live life most of the time? Be in the moment and accord each step the dignity of regarding it as complete and worthy in itself.

4. In all my sunrise runs, there has only been one other day when there was fog that made it impossible to see the opposite shore of Lake Mendota. That was October 31, here (with lots of snow). Today, it looked like this at my vantage point. You'll just have to try to remember where the shore line is supposed to be. This is 7:25, 7 minutes after the actual sunrise time:

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5. By 7:37, the shore came vaguely into shape. The little dot of light is not the sun, but car headlights:


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6. Instead of listening to one of my music playlists, I continued with a podcast I'd started this morning — Joe Rogan with Glenn Villeneuve (a man who lives on his own in northern Alaska and can be seen on the TV show "Life Below Zero):



7. I'd been thinking for some time about running while listening to spoken word. I listen to audiobooks while walking all the time. It's the main way I read books. When I'm just sitting, I flit all over the place. I just won't stick to linearity. But I thought that for running, I should have music to impose a rhythm and maintain a positive spirit. One of my playlists is actually called "fast positive," because that's what I assumed I needed. Wouldn't spoken word cause me to plod? I hate that plodding feeling while running, but it's okay when walking. I let myself walk slowly whenever I want, but with running, slowness bothers me. It seems so stupid. And yet, what I notice is I run best when I'm carried away by thoughts and not attending to my body. Sometimes songs carry me away, but spoken word is much better for that, so I'd been meaning to try spoken word running. Whatever book I was reading? No, it turned out to be this podcast that had captured my interest as I started listening to it as I was getting up and making coffee.

8. So there I was, out there running in the high-gauge mist and semi-darkness listening to these men talking about stealing a caribou carcass from wolves and carrying its meat in a backpack constructed out of the dead animal's ribcage, how the parasites from a dead grizzly bear can get all up in your eyeballs, how antlers with the fur removed have the delicious texture of a pickle, how the stomach contents of caribou is a type of salad, and how you might be able to get many quarts of milk out of a dead walrus.

9. In that light, how sublimely easy it was for me to run in 38° degree fog for a mile and a half. I saw other runners, probably all of them on longer, faster runs. I saw one woman in a tank top — bare arms and shoulders in that chilly light rain. So many people are tougher than I am! But I'm happy with what I set out to do and that I did it.

104 comments:

traditionalguy said...

Bleak House descends at Meadehouse. I would stay inside and re-do my will.

Lucid-Ideas said...

It is expensive, but looking through thermal imaging equipment in fog is eerie. Thermal (FLIR) equipment translates temperature variation into pictures and the background clutter takes what should be white-hot or black-hot visuals and turns it on it's head. More powerful equipment (like on a tank or helicopter) can see through the clutter but personal equipment won't be able to cut through enough to even pick up the sun.

Ann Althouse said...

@Lucid-Ideas

I'll wait until that's part of the iPhone, maybe next year.

rehajm said...

I saw one woman in a tank top — bare arms and shoulders in that chilly light rain.

I'm one of those people- I cook when I run. The cold and the rain are refreshing. I'm the one wilting when its hot and humid...

The Crack Emcee said...

That top photo is creepy - and really cool.

Expat(ish) said...

@rehajm - I'm with you. In NC I used to start bundled up when it was at/near freezing and end up in shorts and a tank top, sweating into my shoes. Then you have to bundle back up when you're done or you turn into a chillblain.

@Ann - running is in the moment, but I always used to envision how good I'd feel when I was through with the run. I never tried to worry about having a slow or sloppy run, just getting in the time or distance.

-XC

Lucid-Ideas said...

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rcocean said...

YEp the top one is creepy. Myself, I can't listen to audiobooks while engaged in hard exercise, I'm too caught up in the moment. Same thing with weights, I tune out the words and focus on the lift, so there's no point in playing it.

stevew said...

That first photo reminds me of the imagery from the movie "The Witch, A New England Folktale" that we watched last night.

That sort of weather is ideal for that sort of physical activity. I've run a Thanksgiving themed 5k in Cape Elizabeth, ME for the last few years. The weather is always similar to what you experienced today.

Linda said...

You never regret a run! Enjoy 😉

FleetUSA said...

Having lived in London 16 years, I call that rain "the soft English rain". Very pleasant.

FWBuff said...

The middle photo with its pervasive blue-ness* is beautiful.

*Is that even a word?

Will said...

Ann, I'm proud of you. I've run all my life and getting out the door is never easy, especially at daylight...in the cold.

Ann Althouse said...

"@Ann - running is in the moment, but I always used to envision how good I'd feel when I was through with the run. I never tried to worry about having a slow or sloppy run, just getting in the time or distance."

I never think about how I'll feel afterward or even about getting to the end. And I never time myself. I see it in aesthetic terms and in the moment. Nothing else.

madAsHell said...

It was exactly the kind of rain that, years ago, I started calling my favorite kind of precipitation

You'd like it here. You can use a wool sweater as a rain coat.

tcrosse said...

There used to be a ramshackle old house on West Johnson Street that had a sign calling it Bleak House.

Char Char Binks said...

I thought of the first photo as beautiful, and not creepy until I noticed that you called it creepy. I didn't get to see the next photos until after my mind had been poisoned. Anyway, they are all very pleasant to the eye, especially the first.

I supposed darkness can either put creepy things out of sight, and therefore out of mind, or bring to mind all the creepiness that may be hidden.

MadisonMan said...

Several times I will walk home and be bundled with hat, scarf, mittens, and there goes a runner in shorts and Tshirt. I just want to yell out "It's not that warm out!" Then I recall when I was a furnace way back when. Those were the days.

Earnest Prole said...

I had something of the same experience this morning in East Bay San Francisco. Laying in bed I heard a few raindrops and thought perhaps I should walk later, but then got up and saw the rain was actually thick fog. By sunrise I was walking a ridgeline, the fog had lifted, and I was thankful I'd decided to get up.

Mid-Life Lawyer said...

Some of my favorite runs are in dramatic weather conditions like when I do and out and back and the wind changes and temperature drops dramatically about half way. Or, when I run with the wind at my back for the first half and then I turn into a brisk north wind for the trip back. There is a brief panic that turns into exhilaration. Fog is almost always fabulous, as well.

Drago said...

Earnest Prole: "I had something of the same experience this morning in East Bay San Francisco. Laying in bed I heard a few raindrops and thought perhaps I should walk later, but then got up and saw the rain was actually thick fog. By sunrise I was walking a ridgeline, the fog had lifted, and I was thankful I'd decided to get up."

Nice.

Of course, I spent a number of years in Vallejo where there really isn't anyplace one wants to walk.

Yancey Ward said...

Chuck Todd Fog.

Fernandistein said...

"Figure it Out on the Hayduke Trail"

A guy hikes - and climbs through the canyons - 800 miles in 63 days from Arches NP down to and through the Grand Canyon and back up to Zion NP.

J. Farmer said...

Documents show US leaders misled public on progress in Afghanistan War: report


Shoooooooooocking

Laslo Spatula said...

Ducks!

Now THAT is what makes a photograph special!

I am Laslo.

Inga said...

The Horowitz Bombshell is out!

Fizzle.....

Birches said...

I listened to Unbroken when I trained for my first marathon. It had some of my best long runs listening.

I mostly do podcasts while running, though lately I've been doing more music. My favorite podcast is on hiatus and I've realized I need a more expansive podcast. One guest, one hour in depth. Most political radio programs won't work for me.

Ken B said...

I thought I saw something in the second picture, something small and vague. Articles of impeachment? Chuck's lifetime Republican membership? But there was nothing there, so it could be either.

wildswan said...


I like the blue light - almost anything might come along past the edge of the picture. The ducks are in a row, waiting?

Chuck said...

I rarely post comments on these morning/evening lake images. But this sentence was so beautiful: "It was exactly the kind of rain that, years ago, I started calling my favorite kind of precipitation — little droplets that seem suspended like a mist." Such a nice sentiment, and one that I share.

Ken B said...

Vapor, Farmer. An unnamed source called Afghan policy “idiotic”! FFS. I know lots of named sources who do that.

Drago said...

Inga: "The Horowitz Bombshell is out!

Fizzle....."

LOLOLOL

Now confirmed: the hoax Steele Dossier was THE basis for the FISA warrants.

Something Inga told us was not possible!!

Cue Durham, as expected.

Lucid-Ideas said...

I have worked in intelligence most of my adult life, which hasn't been as long as many of the people that post here. Just scanning - not reading in depth - the outline of the FISA abuses I just scanned...

...there are some people at the FBI counterterrorism unit that have SERIOUS explaining to do.

SERIOUS EXPLAINING.

Yancey Ward said...

I am reading the analysis section of the Horowitz Report (Chapter 11). It is actually pretty damning for the Crossfire Hurricane team. Horowitz basically accuses them of hiding exculpatory evidence from the team responsible for preparing and approving the FISA warrant against Page. He also accuses them, in not so many words, of lying about the reasons for hiding this exculpatory material. Of course, Horowitz is more tactful about it:

"Because FISA proceedings are ex parte, the FISC relies on the [U.S. government's] full and accurate presentation of the facts to make its probable cause determinations." It further states that it is the case agent's responsibility to ensure that statements contained in applications submitted to the FISC are "scrupulously accurate." As we discuss below, we found that the FBI failed to fulfill this obligation to the court. This failure falls most immediately on the shoulders of the case agents and supervisors who were
responsible for assisting 01 in the preparation of the FISA applications and
performing the factual accuracy review during the Woods process. However, as we
discuss below, we identified (1) numerous serious factual errors and omissions in
the applications, (2) a failure across three investigative teams to advise NSD
attorneys of significant information that undercut certain allegations in the FISA
applications, (3) a lack of satisfactory explanations for these failures, and ( 4) a
continuous failure to reassess the factual assertions supporting probable cause in
the FISA applications as the investigation proceeded and information was obtained
raising significant questions about the Steele reporting. We concluded that these
facts demonstrated a failure on the part of the managers and supervisors in the
Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials."

pacwest said...

SERIOUS EXPLAINING.

"Michael Horowitz, identified 17 separate inaccuracies across three surveillance applications, effectively inflating the justification for monitoring former foreign policy adviser Carter Page."

Yes. And per Barr this morning they are going to get their chance.

Yancey Ward said...

In short, the Crossfire Hurricane investigative team hid all the evidence that undercut the predicate charge that Carter Page was probably a Russian agent, putting in only that information that argued that he was a Russian agent. And what was that evidence that Page was a Russian agent? It consisted on exactly two things- (1) that Page traveled to Russia frequently and knew a lot a Russians, and (2) that Steele through two layers of hearsay accused Page of being a Russian agent. That is it.

Inga said...

“We do not speculate whether the correction of any particular misstatement or omissions, or some combination thereof, would have resulted in a different outcome.

Horowitz

Lucid-Ideas said...

"Secrets of Scary People"

Intelligence work is the dirtiest of all government jobs and puts a person in contact with the absolute scum of the human race. The dirtiest of all garbage humans.

BUT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A FRIGGIN GARBAGE HUMAN YOURSELF TO DO THE JOB.

Un. Friggin. Believable.

Defund them. Immediately.

Ann Althouse said...

"Figure it Out on the Hayduke Trail"

We watched that a few weeks ago. Highly recommended.

Birkel said...

Could not find documentary or oral evidence of...

IOW, for the slow amongst us (RE: Inga) Horowitz did not find a document that read "we are breaking the law with abandon" and nobody confessed, a la Perry Mason.

What Horowitz wrote will not be what the MSM reports.
Howard has a point about the MSM winning because they get to lie loudest.

Ken B said...

Yancey
The key phrase is “lack of satisfactory explanations”.

Drago said...
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Drago said...

Yancey: "And what was that evidence that Page was a Russian agent? It consisted on exactly two things- (1) that Page traveled to Russia frequently and knew a lot a Russians, and (2) that Steele through two
layers of hearsay accused Page of being a Russian agent. That is it."

Yep. After the hoax dossier collapsed as a predicate the lefties/LLR-lefties switched to Carter Page as the rationale. That has collapsed as well, which is why the lefties/LLR-lefties switched AGAIN to Carter Page as the rationale.

And thats why there is Lefty/LLR-lefty panic over the discussions/interviews/investigation of Halper, Downer and Mifsud and all of Brennans little boys and girls at the CIA by Durham and Barr.

Durham, the actual prosecutor, after his public statement today which was remarkable, appears to be driving into just those critical areas.

Ken B said...

The first law of public manipulation is, get your lie out first. The media may not understand much, but they understand that.

Yancey Ward said...

In the first FISA application, the Crossfire Hurricane team used the Michael Isakoff story about Page that appeared in Yahoo as corroboration for Steele's reporting by claiming that they had determined that Steele wasn't the source of the Isakoff story because Steele had said he only shared this information with Glenn Simpson, who had directly hired Steele. We have known for a long time now that this assertion that Steele wasn't Isakoff's source was false- Isakoff himself has confirmed that Steele was the source. Additionally, though, we now know that the FBI teamed lied on the application because the Woods material, which was not shared with the FISC, stated that Steele had also shared the information with people in the State Department. In short the case agents (Strzok and others) deliberately hid and lied about Steele dissemination of his report- and did so precisely because they wanted use Isakoff as corroboration:

"Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele did not directly provide
to the press information in the September 23 Yahoo News article,
based on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that he only shared
his election-related research with the FBI and Simpson; this premise
was factually incorrect (Steele had provided direct information to
Yahoo News) and also contradicted by documentation in the Woods
File-Steele had told the FBI that he also gave his information to the
State Department;"

Drago said...

Inga is now pasting the very commentary that shows the limitations of the Horowitz effort which is being investigated by Durham!!

And she thinks it proves her point!!

LOLOLOLOL

OMG this is funny.

Birkel said...

Bill Barr, paraphrased:
That dude, Horowitz, didn't find direct evidence. I intend to hold people to the most reasonable conclusions based on the evidence, because neither I nor the American public as a whole is oblivious.

When the assumptions and lies all flow in one direction, it is not credible to protest that no conclusions can be drawn.

(If Horowitz were a private eye, he would have to have actual pictures of the cheating spouse mid-fuck, and not just the pictures of the cheaters kissing outside the motel room door, before he could conclude the obvious.)

Yancey Ward said...

Horowitz also found that the investigative team failed to include all exculpatory statements made by Papadopoulos to Stefan Halper, and selectively used statements made by Page to Halper, but studiously omitting the most important statements that Page made- i.e. that he no contact with Manafort or with either of the Russians named in the Steele Dossier:

"Omitted Papadopoulos's statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016
denying that anyone associated with the Trump campaign was
collaborating with Russia or with outside groups like WikiLeaks in the
release of emails;
6. Omitted Page's statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that Page
had "literally never met" or "said one word to" Paul Manafort and that
Manafort had not responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
statements were in tension with claims in Steele's Report 95 that Page
was participating in a "conspiracy" with Russia by acting as an
intermediary for Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and
7. Selectively included Page's statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016
that the FBI believed supported its theory that Page was an agent of
Russia but omitted other statements Page made, including denying
having met with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who Divyekin
was; if true, those statements contradicted the claims in Steele's
Report 94 that Page had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about
364
future cooperation with Russia and shared derogatory information
about candidate Clinton.
"

Birkel said...

Statement from John Durham:

NEW: in a rare statement,US Attorney John Durham says:
"Based on the evidence collected to date,&while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the IG that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.” #FISA

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

When can we start calling it the "Obama Dossier" ?

gina said...

As a pre-dawn-into-dawn runner myself I really enjoy these posts, Ann. They're so elemental especially in the cold weather months. I wouldn't trade that time each day for anything in the world. And now I love the thought of specifically looking podcasts or books that talk about other elemental, pre-historic things like harvesting walrus milk!

Lucid-Ideas said...

I have never been more convinced that a good chunk of people in Washington D.C. are acting in bad faith regarding their dedication to the country and their fellow citizens, especially those citizens that may not be voting for candidates they might vote for.

Civil. Fucking. War.

Arm. There are now 423,000,000 guns and 1 trillion rounds of ammunition and it isn't nearly enough.

Here's a word that you don't read and don't hear quite often.

Apoplectic

I have dead friends who didn't die for this.

Birkel said...
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Birkel said...

"We also found the quantity of omissions and inaccuracies in the applications and the obvious errors in the Woods Procedures deeply concerning. Although we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted in preparing the applications, or the agents and supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or missing information...."

Horowitz saw them kissing outside the room.
Horowitz saw them enter the room.
Horowitz saw them kissing as they left the room.
Horowitz saw him walk her to her car and kiss her thru the window.
Horowitz saw him grab the tit of the woman as he kissed her.

Horowitz has no idea what happened inside the room.
Horowitz demurs that he has no documentary or testimonial evidence of what happened in the room.

Yancey Ward said...

The part about Page's omitted statements to Halper regarding his lack of contact with Manafort is particularly damning. Here is why- Page made those statements without being aware of the allegations in the Steele Dossier that he was Manafort's go-between agent. Yet, the case agent, Strzok, decided to conceal those statements from the NSD attorneys preparing the FISA warrant. Such a statement is clearly expulpatory- Page is denying a key allegation of the Steele Dossier without knowing that it is a key allegation. In short, Page's statement is probably the most important piece of evidence about the veracity of the that Steele Dossier allegation. In interviews with Horowitz, the attorneys who prepared the warrant do state that they would have included such information to the court since it is clearly exculpatory.

Bay Area Guy said...

Summary:

1. IG Report is very long and weak.

2. Barr's statement about the IG Report is good.

Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

"Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.

FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.

With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."


3. However, that Barr has issued a "good" statement, doesn't mean he will act on it.

Life in DC goes on......

Birkel said...

John Durham on those same facts:

They fucked inside that room. That is the normal, natural conclusion. He is a cheater. She is a cheater. They cheated in that room.

Drago said...
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Drago said...

Lucid-Ideas: "I have never been more convinced that a good chunk of people in Washington D.C. are acting in bad faith regarding their dedication to the country and their fellow citizens, especially those citizens that may not be voting for
candidates they might vote for."

True, but Barr's and Durham's statements today, unprecedented statements really refecting the laughable Horowitz non-conclusion "conclusions", indicate the guys with actual prosecutorial power are moving full speed ahead.

On the plus side, Horowitz' report did lay bare much of what has been asserted against the obama team over the last 3 years.

Andrew said...

Trump should tweet, "Based on the Horowitz report, I have decided to abolish the Fisa Court. No more Star Chambers!"

Then watch everyone go insane. Needless to say, he doesn't have that authority, but let's watch the Dems defend these courts while they pretend to care about civil liberties and the abuse of power.

Yancey Ward said...

I still have a lot to read, but I think I see where the reporting about the Horowitz Report is being mistated. Horowitz isn't absolving the the FBI and the DoJ- he is absolving the people who took information from the Crossfire Hurricane at face value and used it to apply to the FISC for the Carter Page warrant. Horowitz says that he didn't receive satisfactory explanations for these mistakes- in short, Horowitz probably thinks he has been lied to by members of the Crossfire Hurricane team, but can't prove it with documentary evidence. Not a surprise.

etbass said...

The deep state is deeper and wider than we thought.

Birkel said...

Andrew,
He does that that authority. He could order the DOJ to cease all applications, to withdraw all current surveillance, and to forbid all applications while he is president.

But then Pensacola happens and it will be Trump's daily (notwithstanding the fact it is the gun-free-zone nonsense that makes military bases more easily attacked and the government surveillance has failed w/rt Saudi nationals, much less Americans!)

Birkel said...

Trump's fault... where the hell did daily come from?

Bay Area Guy said...

@Drago:

"True, but Barr's and Durham's statements today, unprecedented statements really refecting the laughable Horowitz non-conclusion "conclusions", indicate the guys with actual prosecutorial power are moving full speed ahead."

I hope you're right, Drago. But, time is shrinking. If Trump loses in Nov 2020, Barr is gone, Durham is fired, Wray resigns, and you will have the following (or equivalent thereof);

AG - Pam Karlan
Director of FBI - Andrew McCabe
Director of CIA - John Brennan (redux)

In other words, none of this matters, if Trump loses in 2020.

In other words, the only thing that matters is for Trump to: (1) survive (politically) the impeachment farce, (2) manage the Barr/Durham/Horowitz inquiries, and to the extent they ding up the Dems he gets an added bonus and (3) get fucking re-elected in 2020!

Drago said...

As mentioned elsewhere, the actions by RADM Michael Rogers at NSA to hinder the spying on Americans and democrat political opponents which led to the deep staters conjuring up means to obtain FISA warrants to continue their spying on Trump will be one of those things that have astonishing political ripple effects.


walter said...

More suspicions now why Graham wanted to quickly move on from Mueller's dud.

Drago said...

BAG: "In other words, none of this matters, if Trump loses in 2020."

If Trump loses, then nothing matters. Open borders leads to loss of it all.

Lucid-Ideas said...

@Drago

Electing Obama was the single-most destructive thing Americans did in the 21st century. It will go down in history. I left the army in 2012 and it was like night and day looking at the new incoming crop of subordinate officers 2008 vs. 2009. It was as if the entire apparatus of government (deep state) went into high-gear vouchsafing their tenure forever.

I am not innocent. I voted for the man in 2008 because I believed in the high-minded bullshit he turned out to be so skilled at peddling. What a con-artist.

Apoplectic

Drago said...

walter: "More suspicions now why Graham wanted to quickly move on from Mueller's dud."

The suspicions have been out there for a long while: that a large chunk of DC and elected officials from both parties have been feeding at the trough of US govt money sent overseas being funneled back to US insiders. This is in conjunction with the selling out of American workers and citizens while the DC insiders and connected folks rake in billions.

I have also heard rumors that Lindsay Graham's toughguy rhetoric is designed to mask the inevitable political whitewash that he will facilitate.

We already know Richard Burr is completely conpromised as is Romney via his kid who also has Ukrainian energy contacts and dealings.

As did John Kerrys son in law.

As did Pelosi's son.

Anybody seeing a pattern?

Bay Area Guy said...

Durham's Statement:

“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”

mccullough said...

Indict all the people involved in the FISA applications for conspiracy. Pick the most hostile venue for them.

Then let the lower level people cut deals after they can’t afford the legal fees.

Let it be known that anyone who contributes to a legal defense fund for these people will themselves be investigated

Go after their families as well.

In other words, do unto them as they have done to others



Francisco D said...

Horowitz probably thinks he has been lied to by members of the Crossfire Hurricane team, but can't prove it with documentary evidence. Not a surprise.

I agree, Yancy.

I have no idea if Horowitz is a Deep Stater or a very cautious man. I suspect that he is more of the latter and has many Deep State friends. What is important is that we do not rush to conclusions.

Let's see how the cards play out.

narayanan said...

Can we dig up McCain and hang him

Bay Area Guy said...

"I have no idea if Horowitz is a Deep Stater or a very cautious man."

I think he is not Deep State, but, institutionally, is protective of the DOJ/FBI, and is reluctant to ream them out too harshly.

For example, I have a colleague who spent 25 years in Counter-Intelligence with the FBI, and knows FISA apps inside and out. Politically, he despises Hillary, and supports Trump despite some misgivings. Yet, he still maintains Carter Page was a valid target for the FISA warrant. He just can't imagine his beloved FBI being so compromised at headquarters. A blind spot, I repeatedly tell him.

Mathair said...

There is a Scottish word for exactly the type of rain you describe, and the word is "smirr".

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

if the credibility of the FBI is trashed (as it should be, in cases)

...would this jeopardize prior convictions by delegitimizing their MO ?

narciso said...

well it's better than Robert Kelley, he was the cia officer, who they went after in lieu of Robert hanson, died a few years ago,

Fernandistein said...

parasites from a dead grizzly bear can get all up in your eyeballs,

Well, maybe not.

The bear roundworm is Baylisascaris transfuga; "The ability of B. transfuga to serve as a zoonotic agent has not been unambiguously proved; however, this attribute should be considered and subjected to further research."

The raccoon variety (Baylisascaris procyonis) is zoonotic and can (rarely) infect a human, including the eyes.

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Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Trump says Durham has this info plus plus plus--

did Durham’s investigation find evidence the OIG did not have that shows those officials are lying?

did the OIG investigation serve to get the #Spygate plotters to tell their cover story under oath, so that their bullshit stories would put them in a perjury trap?

Birkel said...

Steele gave his information to Bruce Ohr, who continued to pass it to the FBI.
Politico and Inga are lying.

That's in the IG Report.

See Durham's statement above.

narciso said...

I don't think so, look it's not like with Richard jewell, that the fbi's gross error, allowed eric Rudolph, to go on and murder more people, and seek sanctuary in the Carolina mountains, or Stephen hatfill, who was labeled the anthrax mailer, till they finally copped to a 5 million dollar check, the prosecutor who was responsible in that matter, doug jones (from hell boy) is now senator from alabama,

HoodlumDoodlum said...

It was exactly the kind of rain that, years ago, I started calling my favorite kind of precipitation — little droplets that seem suspended like a mist.

YT: Only Happy When It Rains

rhhardin said...

Klavan has a "an historic day" media montage today
https://soundcloud.com/andrewklavanshow

J. Farmer said...

YT: Only Happy When It Rains

My first concert.

rehajm said...

A higher loyalty - Comey and Baker.

Fernandistein said...

"Figure it Out on the Hayduke Trail"
We watched that a few weeks ago. Highly recommended.


I saw that he was carrying what looked like a nice Gitzo tripod, but never saw him use it ... then after I pointed out to my victim that "there's another person along, doing all the photography, and walking the same hike but also carrying fancy cameras" (as is often the case, and based on the time-lapse photos) then I noticed that he was doing all the photography, his "selfies" were so good you didn't notice them as selfies, and he had to go back quite a ways to get the tripod and camera after a lot of shots.

We lived in that canyon area for a couple of years and when you wander around you get an appreciation for the size of everything and how tricky it can be to travel, to get from point A to point B, like the old Mormon "Hole-In-The-Rock" expedition in the same region.

Yancey Ward said...

Read Chapter 11 of the Horowitz Report- that is my recommendation if you don't want to slog through all 476 pages. It contains the analysis of the evidence collected. It is terribly damning to the Crossfire Hurricane team. Here is my summary:

The Crossfire Hurricane concealed all exculpatory evidence when applying for the first Carter Page warrant- literally every single bit of it. Indeed, they cherry picked information from Halper's spying on Page, misrepresenting the one part of it that could be twisted as corroboration, and then completely omitting all the exculpatory statements Page made to Halper, including the most relevant ones.

They omitted all the exculpatory information about Page's previous work with the government in identifying and prosecuting Russian agents working on US soil- even going so far as to deliberately altering an e-mail describing this work so that it would look non-exculpatory to anyone looking at it (this is the Clinesmith part). It looks to me that Clinesmith was not only trying to keep the court from learning about Page's previous work, but was actually covering the asses of the Crossfire Hurricane team who had not bothered to send him the memorandum that they had describing this work- they had actually completely buried it.

What is striking to me is how all the errors, every single one of them, favored the investigation team, which was exactly the opposite of the Clinton email investigation where all the errors Horowitz identified favored Clinton. Since it was almost all the same investigators in both cases, this is actually strong proof that the investigators were acting on their political biases.

Fernandistein said...

i turn this up really loud and draw pictures of things that worry my parents.

Fernandistein said...

"What is wrong with you people? It's like you never been to Austin or something"
(Butthole Surfers - The Hurdy Gurdy Man)

Original Mike said...

Thanks for your work, Yancey. Did you happen to run into whatever statement the Ingas of the world are hanging their hat on that the investigation was "legitimate"?

Original Mike said...

IG Report: Here Are The 17 Specific ‘Inaccuracies And Omissions’ In The FBI’s FISA Warrants Against Carter Page

These people lied through their teeth.

Reading through these also brings home the fact that Horowitz was limited to looking at the FISA warrants.

pacwest said...

Yancy Ward said..
this is actually strong proof that the investigators were acting on their political biases.

The report said..
no "documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to conduct these operations.”

And yet the (limited in scope) report is full of stuff that is easiest to explain by political bias (hit job). Perhaps "documentary or testimonial evidence" is the key phrase.

Qwinn said...

MSN.com is headlining a USA Today article called "Trump, Ukraine and Russia: Five Presidential conspiracy theories debunked" by Deirdre Shesgreen.

Virtually every word in it is a staggering lie.

Here's a few howlers:

1) "There is no evidence that the FBI spied on Trump's campaign."
2) "Federal investigators and other analyses have confirmed Crowdstrike's conclusions."
3) "The notion that Ukraine meddlesd in the US election is false."

I thought I couldn't be any more cynical, but this pile of bullshit is so much deeper than I ever believed possible.

BUMBLE BEE said...

I need some SRV to soothe out these rough spots. Thank for reading it Yancy.

Original Mike said...

"documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to conduct these operations.”

I guess that's the fig leaf.

walter said...

Paul Sperry
‏ @paulsperry_
2h2 hours ago

BREAKING: ABC, NBC and CBS all switch back to regular programming, stop covering impeachment hearings live as Republican committee members show video evidence of Biden & son's quid pro quo and lay out reasons House is investigating the wrong man
--
"C'mon, man! No one says anything was wrong with that. Can you do burpees? Sadukoo?"

Birkel said...

What I wrote in my first comment, above:

"Could not find documentary or oral evidence of...

"IOW, for the slow amongst us (RE: Inga) Horowitz did not find a document that read "we are breaking the law with abandon" and nobody confessed, a la Perry Mason.

"What Horowitz wrote will not be what the MSM reports.
"Howard has a point about the MSM winning because they get to lie loudest."


That stands up really well.

DavidD said...

“I saw one woman in a tank top — bare arms and shoulders in that chilly light rain.”

Did she have a ponytail? Pics or it didn’t happen.

Where’s Laslo when you need him?

Ken B said...

Birkel says
“Horowitz saw them kissing outside the room.
Horowitz saw them enter the room.
Horowitz saw them kissing as they left the room.
Horowitz saw him walk her to her car and kiss her thru the window.
Horowitz saw him grab the tit of the woman as he kissed her.

Horowitz has no idea what happened inside the room.
Horowitz demurs that he has no documentary or testimonial evidence of what happened in the room.”

Exactly right. And the new rule is, you need 4 male or 8 female eye witnesses to the act in order to prove fucking occurred, so the everyone (except Trump) is exonerated. That pile of used condoms is meaningless!

Birkel said...

Ken B,
You're a liar.
But I did forget the pile of used condoms.

Ken B said...

Birkel
And after sucking them dry too. Tsk tsk.

Birkel said...

And with that admission that you are bad at this game...