November 26, 2019

"Simpson and Fritsch acknowledge that several of Steele’s most sensational allegations remain unproven and that others were almost surely wrong... [but] 'a spy whose sources get it 70 percent right is considered to be one of the best'..."

"and... while reporters focussed on the most salacious details, they 'tended to miss the central message,' about which they say Steele was largely correct. They note that, in his first report, in June, 2016, Steele warned that Russian election meddling was 'endorsed by Putin' and 'supported and directed' by him to 'sow discord and disunity with the United States itself but more especially within the Transatlantic alliance'—six months before the U.S. intelligence community collectively embraced the same conclusion. Steele also was right, they argue, that 'Putin wasn’t merely seeking to create a crisis of confidence in democratic elections. He was actively pulling strings to destroy Hillary Clinton and elect Donald Trump,' an assessment the U.S. intelligence community also came to accept. And they note that, as of September, 2019, U.S. officials confirmed that the C.I.A. had 'a human source inside the Russian government during the campaign, who provided information that dovetailed with Steele’s reporting about Russia’s objective of electing Trump and Putin’s direct involvement in the operation.'"

From "The Inside Story of Christopher Steele’s Trump Dossier/In a new book, the founders of the firm that compiled it defend their work" by Jane Mayer (in The New Yorker).

About those "sensational allegations":

Steele’s first report found that Russia had tried to cultivate Trump by dangling business ventures and had been accumulating blackmail material, including what later came to be known as the pee tape—ostensibly a recording showing prostitutes entertaining Trump by urinating on a hotel bed, at the Moscow Ritz-Carlton, in which the Obamas had previously slept....

Despite the fact that the fabled pee tape has never surfaced and Trump immediately denied its existence, Simpson and Fritsch write that Steele remains confident that his reports are neither a fabrication nor the “hoax” of Trump’s denunciations. Trump’s defenders have claimed that Steele fell prey to Russian disinformation, and so, therefore, it is he, not Trump, who has been a useful idiot for the Russians. But Steele tells the authors, “These people simply have no idea what they’re talking about.”

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Greg the class traitor said...

If you look at actions, then President Trump is far more anti-Russia and anti-Putin that President Obama ever was

And far more anti Russia that Hillary "Uranium One" Clinton ever would have been

So there's two possibilities:
1: The CIA under Brennan was a politicized and worthless pile of crap, and Russia had no intent to make Trump win
2: Putin is an utter moron

Bruce Hayden said...

“It isn't Stone's theory- it is the prosecution's reply to Stone's request- an actual court document- they literally told Stone what they had and it wasn't the actual evidence, just the conclusion that stated, "The Russians hacked the DNC." That was it- it was all Mueller ever had- CrowdStrike's unverified conclusion.”

Keep in mind that Mueller’s prosecutors appear to have lied through their teeth about the existence of exonerating evidence in the Flynn trial. They have repeatedly been caught with their pants down when it comes to the 302s by Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka. Latest was their admission a couple weeks ago to Judge Sullivan that that they got the authorship of the 302s backwards. They still haven’t provided all the copies that should exist in the FB’s Sentinel system.

My point is that lying in court in the Flynn case wasn’t beyond the Mueller prosecutors, so why assume that they weren’t lying in the Stone case?

Bruce Hayden said...

“ First off, only 3 agencies even have the capabilities to analyze and assess such information:
CIA (Brennan)
NSA (Adm Rogers)
FBI (Comey)
DNI (Clapper)”

You are forgetting that Peter Strzok was personally picked to lead the FBI side of this research.

Francisco D said...

I would challenge some of the anti-Trump commenters here (ARM, Inga, Howard, and Chuck come to mind) what policies Trump has followed which make a tingle run up Putin's leg.

That is quite a challenge, at least for the trolls you named.

I think the DNC talking points are that both Trump and Putin are despots which gives them both a tingle. Maybe that was "tinkle" as in having prostitutes peeing on a bed. Yet ..

Of course, competing despots often have competing interests.

Of course, US oil production is far greater under Trump which is a problem for Putin.

Of course, Trump wanted to build a hotel in Moscow at one time, but couldn't get the Clinton discount.

Of course, the DNC will have new talking points when the old talking points don't pass the smell test.

Ray - SoCal said...

Most well informed political observers thought Hillary would be President, myself included.

I’m sure the Russians thought Hillary would also be President.

I’m still amazed Trump won.

Russians just want to damage the US in anyway possible. Their Election activities were to hurt the US election system credibility, and what an amazing ROI!

Rory said...

Clinton's original story was that Putin wanted to get her because, as Secretary of State, she had spoken out about fraud in Russian parliamentary elections. As it became clear that her side would swallow anything, this morphed into a fear of Clinton/domination of Trump story.

Drago said...

Hayden: "You are forgetting that Peter Strzok was personally picked to lead the FBI side of this research."

Correct.

Strzok was a handpicked member of Crossfire Hurricane but the creation of that assessment was a CIA Show. I believe there are Strzok text messages where he indicated the CIA went too far in their conclusions.

Jim at said...

I have never understood why Putin was supposed to want Trump to be president instead of Hillary.

He didn't. And anybody with a working brain cell knows that.

It's simply fetid shit that Hillary pushed the day after she was supposed to be elected and the left has been running with it since.

It's quite tedious, but it's all they have.

JackOfClubs said...

The ironic thing is that I always believed the "pee tape" to be a hoax, but since Trump has begun labeling everything critical of him a hoax, including the fairly well-documented interactions with the Ukraine, I am now beginning to wonder. His habit of fulsome denial has lent credibility to an otherwise dubious story.

BUMBLE BEE said...

I would have to say they are better employed at this than, oh say, firefighting. Took them 3 years plus to come up with this weak shit. Only a dumbocrat could believe!

Gretchen said...

On the surface, Putin wanting Trump in the White house isn't rational. Trump will increase US oil and gas production, which is crippling the Russian economy. Putin is well aware how easily bought Hillary is, and she wouldn't do much to strengthen the US economically or socially. However, if Putin wants an American actively in turmoil, he got it. The left is unhinged as they always are when there is a Democrat president, and the media fuels it.

Known Unknown said...

You know Tulsi Gabbard is putting the ASS into Russian Asset.

LA_Bob said...

Francisco D. said, "I think the DNC talking points are that both Trump and Putin are despots which gives them both a tingle. Maybe that was "tinkle" as in having prostitutes peeing on a bed. Yet .."

Trump as despot. Hilarious, assuming you're right. Yes, he's a despot, and that is how he got his border wall built in 2017. And that is why the Republicans kept the House in 2018 (Trump took away every Democrat's right to vote).

Despotic Republicans are always taking away civil liberties. Bush was a Nazi. Antiwar protesters all went to jail. Bush bumped off every Democrat trying to take his job in 2004. Like, yeah.

I remember when Wisconsin failed to recall Walker or overturn Measure 10 or whatever the election was (there so many of them), and some protester told the press, "Democracy died tonight".

LA_Bob said...

Ray - SoCal said, "I’m sure the Russians thought Hillary would also be President."

I wonder how well the Russians even understand the US presidential electoral system (the so-called Electoral College). It certainly baffles many Americans.

And I'll bet the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would totally blow Russian minds. What a Rube Goldberg contraption American politics must be!

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