No, I'm not going anywhere. Maybe for a walk after I decide this blog is off the ground for the morning, on a morning when I feel you guys are all off and running somewhere.
But if you're looking for conversation, I give you this tidbits:
"Julián Castro calls July 4th parade a "waste of money" meant to boost Trump's ego" (CBS):
Democratic presidential candidate Julián Castro...chastised Mr. Trump's administration for reportedly diverting $2.5 million from the National Park Service to the celebration and focusing on a military procession instead of improving conditions for American veterans."Trump's July 4 extravaganza sets a political trap" (CNN):
"Instead of addressing something like veteran homelessness, he's spending it on boosting his ego with a parade that's fundamentally about him," said Castro, who served as secretary of Housing and Urban Development in the Obama administration....
His latest grandiose photo op appears to be a reflection of his own vanity, obsession with crowd sizes, craving for the spotlight, penchant for military hardware and his flirtations with authoritarianism.From "3 Reasons Not to Worry About Trump’s Fourth of July—and 1 Big Reason to Worry/Other presidents have celebrated the Fourth. It's hard to think of one who has less sense of what it's about" by Jeff Greenfield (Politico):
But from the President's perspective, he's on to a winner. Cries of outrage from Democrats and the media at Trump's hijacking of the July Fourth celebrations will not offend all Americans. For a lot of them, it may be a welcome display of the country's strength.
And by serving as the arbiter of patriotism -- as he did during the controversy over kneeling NFL players -- and as a strong commander-in-chief, Trump is also laying a political trap.
There’s also a more personal dimension to the Trumpification of the Fourth. Throughout his presidency, he has taken outsize delight in over-the-top celebrations and honors given him by foreign governments, a delight that seems to translate into bizarre foreign policies. Receive the Gold Medallion from Saudi Arabia, and you brush aside the kingdom's murder and dismemberment of an American resident. Enjoy lavish banquets in China, and the brutal crackdown on a million Uighurs goes unmentioned. Get a “beautiful letter” from Kim Jong Un and maybe North Korea can keep its nukes. (And would you really be totally shocked if Kim showed up at the White House to help Trump celebrate the Fourth?)
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I enjoy conversing with you because you are perceptive and observant and have an outside perspective on to the USA. And you understand and appreciate Catholic religious processions.
But there is a core aspect of the American grain that you may not be picking up on, perhaps due to residing in a coastal city as an adult and missing out on that childhood experience. de Tocqueville's Democracy in America might explain some of it. Or, on the 4th, take your family outside of the city to a local 4th of July celebration. Go to the small parade and the local fireworks and a local picnic. Go to the local pancake celebration put on by Rotary or Knights of Columbus. That's where you'll see the essence of America. That's the 4th of July.
In Chicago, they used to do the downtown fireworks over the lake on the 3rd, because all of the local townships had their own celebrations on the 4th.
"Frederick Douglass' 'What to the American slave is your Fourth of July?' speech was given in 1852. While an indictment of the Democrats'abuse of slaves, it included a defense of the country's founding documents and the founders. Douglass recognized the United States was a young country and had hope for its future. In a way it predestined Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. Both their optimism was justified. Of course, both were Republicans. As Douglass later stated, 'I am a Republican, a black, dyed in the wool Republican, and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom and progress.'"
Of course, neither party today is what it was then.
Browndog said...
The United States was BORN in military action.
Say what?
*checks notes*
Nope. Turns out it was founded via slavery, protests, diversity, and immigrants.
***********
Yeah, and we've SUCKED ever since.
That yer point? Fuckwit?
Obama build the cages. Even Snopes, a leftist-biased "fact checker" cannot deny it.
opps. There goes your narrative. Oh well, keep the Maddow-Vox lie going.
“In Chicago, they used to do the downtown fireworks over the lake on the 3rd, because all of the local townships had their own celebrations on the 4th.”
Same thing in Milwaukee. All the little communities, towns, villages and cities do their own fireworks and celebrations. Families gather at each other’s homes, we are all celebrating and are not directed by whoever is the President in any given year. I’ve already made 3 pies, enjoy your 4th WWWW!
"'What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim.'
"I guess it's a good thing there aren't any slaves anymore."
Who says there isn't?
If you’re living in the mid-1800s.
Then there’s Queen Bay filming in The Lourve rapping about Lambos and making it and visiting Cuba on the side.
But Cubans are serfs who had their right to bear arms taken away from the Progressives.
Just like freed slaves after the Civil War. Go figure.
wwww,
We had such things in San Francisco.
The city effectively banned them.
San Francisco is America too.
But it seems not your America.
Which is my point. You are not one America.
And no local barbecue will fix that.
Louvre.
While worth $300 million and hubby $1 billion?
As we know them here. Other parts of the world still practice it.
On a more philosophical plane:
https://www.lawliberty.org/2019/07/03/harry-jaffa-erler-masugi-america/
Inga the Incoherent: "Families gather at each other’s homes, we are all celebrating and are not directed by whoever is the President in any given year."
What President has "directed" how people and families in their communities celebrate the 4th?
Trump jumps and DUNKS to Dems thru the basket!!!!
wholelottasplainin' said...
Browndog said...
***********
Yeah, and we've SUCKED ever since.
That yer point? Fuckwit?
Fuckwit?
Not familiar. We say fuckwad in my neck of the woods.
Relax, Alice.
Inga will celebrate the Fourth by burning a Betsy Ross flag in the backyard.
retired U.S. Navy Adm. John Kirby. “This is not how a superpower behaves.”
Kirby was the idiot Hillary DOD spokesman. Inga has no idea. She has never heard the expression "Trust no one above 0-6"
4W is sensing the left is losing , hence all the entreaties to play soccer where the pink haired lesbian can show us how to celebrate the fourth.
Oh and Cook, the communist, “A man’s rights rest in three boxes,” he said. “The ballot box, jury box, and the cartridge box. Let no man be kept from the ballot box because of his color. Let no woman be kept from the ballot box because of her sex.”
Frederick Douglass.
"Same thing in Milwaukee. All the little communities, towns, villages and cities do their own fireworks and celebrations. Families gather at each other’s homes, we are all celebrating and are not directed by whoever is the President in any given year. I’ve already made 3 pies, enjoy your 4th WWWW!"
yes! One year we didn't make it to the fireworks on time. Were driving on the highway round the city near O'Hare. As we drove over hills could see all the many local firework celebrations going off around the city. Happy Fourth!
"Which is my point. You are not one America.
And no local barbecue will fix that."
I don't believe or see that. Most people don't spend all of the 4th in a large city. They might go into a big city for the evening fireworks, but most don't. Especially people with kids. Go to a town or even a small city to see the 4th. You can't watch it on the screen. It's always been a neighbourhood celebration.
Nice photo at Insty showing Obama under various US flags like the original design.
So well said...
“What’s worse than the partisanship is the central place of Trump in the celebration. The national holidays of the U.S. simply aren’t about the aggrandizement of the president, and it’s an excellent tradition that presidents typically haven’t taken part at all in the Washington Fourth of July events, much less hijacked them for their own use. It would be bad enough if Trump could be trusted to deliver a bunch of bland patriotic clichés in his planned address to the nation – even if all he did was read the Declaration of Independence – but the record is pretty clear that he isn’t capable of speaking to the nation’s democratic heritage, or in fact giving any kind of speech without his usual bluster and braggadocio. At any rate, the great leader presiding over a militaristic celebration of himself and the nation is what happens in authoritarian regimes, not in democracies.
Nations that have nothing but military hardware to brag about center their celebrations on tanks and warplanes. The U.S. traditionally celebrates what Jefferson called “the pursuit of happiness” – both the private happiness of personal enjoyment and the public happiness of a shared political culture and a tradition of civic, including political, participation. Trump doesn’t seem to understand any of that as central to the U.S. That he’s inflicting his politics on the military is dangerous; that he’s inflicting his vision of the U.S. as a military nation above all else is dangerous, too.
For those of us who appreciate the real spirit of the Fourth, the whole thing is just indescribably sad.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-03/trump-military-parade-betrays-american-values-on-fourth-of-july
Is this what it comes down to? A couple of Abrams on a flatbed truck?
https://mail.google.com/mail/mu/mp/755/#tl/priority/%5Esmartlabel_personal
Lol. The short-fingered Commander in Chief. Commander Bone Spurs.
UPDATE (FROM GLENN): Julian Castro praises Nike, compares Betsy Ross flag to Confederate flag. Someone should ask Barack Obama if he plans to apologize for this racist display.
Perhaps Mr. CASTRO would be more comfortable somewhere else.
He doesn’t mind taking a paycheck, tho.
For WWWW: While we do not have a King, the military is under civilian command, which was tested by MacArthur against Truman in the Korean War. Truman won. It's good to have the generals saluting the President, who is a Civilian. Even Eisenhower was no longer a general while he was President.
If we have generals complaining about saluting the President, those generals should be fired immediately.
Of course, since Chuck is here praising anti-American stuff (hey, who is surprised?), all I can say is Go USA, and Go Trump for forcing every miserable leftist and neverTrumper to declare their open hatred for America and celebrating Independence Day. For nothing is more obviously true than this: today's left and NeverTrumpers would completely, 100% support King George and fight against Washington and the boys because the left loves, loves, loves the idea of being subjects to a king.
Inga: don't you ever get tired of crapping on America and its soldiers? Don't you ever get tired of supporting communists like Che while hating America?
Typical 4th - Very local:
Morning: Put up a flag.
Go to a pancake breakfast or a local run or both.
Parade: Kids get small American flags to wave. Some kids march in the parade as Scouts. Some kids decorate bicycles with flag colors and ride in the parade. Candy thrown.
Picnic: Have a picnic with friends and family. Put out a flag cake, or apple/ cherry pie, or both. BBQ. Hammocks, sports outside. Adults sitting around talking while kids play in the yard or the park.
Swim: Some 4th picnics and BBQs are at lakes or pools. Some people go to the pool or the splash park or the lake to swim after the BBQ at the park.
Evening: Fireworks! Go to the local fireworks celebration at dark. (Some set off their own fireworks.)
Sleep!
I still recall my frustration when an Army ROTC recruitment event at my college featured an Apache attack helicopter, which we students could climb into and imagine flying. The ground crewman who helped me into the cockpit said to me, as he did to all who took a look, "If you can get it started, you can fly it. And it's ready to go, right now."
I climbed all over and through a decommissioned Sabre jet in my city's park growing up. I checked out the bottom hatch on a Sherman tank at an armor museum. I stood in the gun turret of the USS North Carolina and manned (well, boy-ed) a .50 cal anti-air gun at its rail every summer at the beach. I've fired guns from muskets to ARs at the range. All of this educational entertainment gave me a finer appreciation of what people did in our country's history.
If you want to get a sense of America's past, climb King's Mountain on a summer day, stand in the cornfield at Antietam, walk the path of Pickett's charge, look for the damaged buildings in Richmond that exist to this day, and visit a Civil War or WWI or WWII or Korean or Vietnam cemetery. We stand now, where others stood for us.
Whatever one thinks of Trump, it’s hard to demy how frequently tone deaf, clueless, and strategically incompetent his opposition is. I’m not a particular fan of American militarism, but this is such a ridiculous non-issue.
"Even Eisenhower was no longer a general while he was President."
Of course. My husband's grandfather was friends w/ Eisenhower and went to school w/ him.
The Capitol City will plan it's own celebration for the local citizens. If they're happy with it, they are happy with it. The 4th is a local celebration planned by citizens. It's not a screen event. It's local and participatory. It's always been that way; it'll always be that way.
The relationship citizens have with the United States is not mediated by anyone else. It's a direct connection. Just as Puritans saw their relationship to Christ so do Americans see their relationship to America. No mediation needed. That's why the 4th can be celebrated without the participation of any politicians. If the politicians want to march or speak at the parade, that's fine. But that's not the essence of the holiday.
As good a time as any to ask my annual question: Do "liberals" (and by that I mean of course "tax-happy, coercion-addicted, power-tripping State fellators") celebrate the Fourth? And if so--what the heck do they think they're celebrating?
You know, this whole dispute reminds me of the movie "American Carol" which was a moderately good take off of Christmas Carol, with the Scrooge character a send up of Micheal Moore. His big issue in the movie? Protesting the 4th of July. Also perving on girls. Amazing how prophetic that movie is in hindsight, as we have leftists right here at Althouse protesting the 4th of July and celebrating it. And of course the "MeToo" movement caught almost exclusively leftists in its righteous burning crusade.
I suppose next we'll have to watch out for ACLU zombies trying to take down plaques of the 10 commandments at courthouses.....
4W, you are correct about all the local celebrations. I do not see that as a reason not to have a national celebration.
Chicago used to have a St Patrick's Day parade downtown. Then the gays insisted on intruding politics. You know what ?
The remnant of Chicago Irish now have their own parade on Western Avenue as most of those still in the city have moved south and west.
The national celebration didn't used to be political. I remember big celebrations almost as big as the 1976 one.
What has happened is the Vietnam War has poisoned US politics, just it poisoned academia when leftist draft avoiders stayed in grad school to avoid the draft. Lots of them ended up professors and favored more leftist grad students.
Plus the draft ended and that destroyed a common experience among American men. It was a terrible error of Johnson, one of many he made, to fight that war with draftees.
We are doing a 4 day road trip. North from Vegas, across the moonscape to Tonapah, then to the ghosts of Bodie, CA, then to Mammoth lakes in the Sierras, through Death Valley and back. Haven't had a day off in two years. Really looking forward to it.
It's not a screen event. It's local and participatory. It's always been that way; it'll always be that way.
Another excellent reason to dismantle the DC bureaucracy. 96% voted for the felonious Hillary.
Ag is edging toward Kansas City, an excellent idea. DOE could be in Ok City or Austin. HUD would fit well in Detroit. Lots of nice suburbs around Detroit.
Funny how leftists think they should get to decide how the President celebrates Independence Day.
Hint: You don't.
Tomorrow, family will be coming out to the lake, the flag is already up. Grandkid’s and their parents will be going to the local parade in the AM where they get little flags and whatever candy they can catch. Then they all come back and we have lunch and whoever wants to go swimming, does. Relaxation and/ or lawn games, or water fun with the blow up thingiemajingies, or water skiing, then dinner and getting ready for the fireworks, just have to walk to our own little lake front in front of the house. Some may go out on the pontoon boat. That’s how we liberals here celebrate.
I do agree with WWWW that the local small town patriotic stuff is great. We will have a nice parade and my kids will get to wave and get candy, and then the fireworks. One of the local towns has a 40 mm Oerkilon anti-air gun mount in the park that you can climb on and pretend to shoot down Japanese planes, since it came from WWII.
But that's way too militaristic, no doubt, for the left, who has the vapors right now. And Chuck, who probably thinks any kid climbing on the museum piece is evil and deplorable. How dare they celebrate evil Militaristic Trump's America!
We need another government shutdown. A real one.
Want to make a leftist scream? Fly the original flag of the US, the Betsy Ross one that Nike has banned and all the left has dutifully followed suit, screaming it's racist and oppressive.
Obama flew that flag at his second inauguration, but hey, that flag is raaaaaacist! Right Inga? We need to burn down any place flying the original flag of America! That's the left's demand today.
Pay close attention to LLR Chuck's deflection tactics.
For instance, his lies just 2 days ago regarding a mythical Trump Admin Federal Busing Plan, which was intended to deflect from the dems/left/LLR-lefties jumping on the forced busing lunatic train.
Today Chuck knows his dems are not looking good on the patriotism front and not looking good on the supporting the military front and not looking good on the non-communist front so he is in full spin mode.
Its fun to watch.
Trump is an absolute genius for getting the lefties/LLR-lefties to display their animosity towards America.
wwww tries to pretend the left/LLR's aren't running around pronouncing the American flag racist and also pretending as if the left/LLR's haven't been in full attack mode against the Scouts for 50 years.
It's amazing the amount of history rewriting wwww and Inga and Chuck engage in.
It's simply what leftists do.
Celebrating the 4th of July by showing the military might and prowess of the United States is entirely appropriate. Our history is Military.
Speaking as a descendant of Revolutionary War ancestors....We fought the British, one of the premiere military powers of the time. And kicked their asses. We did it through the military that was cobbled together with volunteers. Most of whom were using their own weapons. (Hence the Second Amendment)
My mother’s paternal line had a captain in the CT militia (my mother was a DAR member), and my father’s served in a VA unit during the Revolutionary War.
I have commented here before that my grandfather grew up with the Civil War historian Bruce Catton in Benzonia, MI, who wrote in his autobiography “Waiting for the Morning Train” that he was inspired to his life’s work by watching GAR vets, including my GG grandfather (grandson of that CT militia vet) march, including, specifically, on the 4th of July. That grandfather, similarly inspired by the veterans marching, got a battlefield commission during WW I, and ended up retiring from the Army as a Colonel, in 1947, after serving on a Nazi War Crimes Tribunal.
My point is that martial displays on the 4th of July are not the least bit new, but have been a routine part of American life since at least the end of the Civil War.
Oh yes, don’t forget the mosquito repellent, we have a mighty force of them here at the lake. It’s a sight to see. Mosquito Air Force, dive bombing and buzzing our heads, what a display of power!
"Nations that have nothing but military hardware to brag about center their celebrations on tanks and warplanes."
France has never been the leader in any of those and certainly isn't now.
And it certainly has a great deal else to boast about.
But still -
Bastille Day 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eME1y6V-T4
"Tomorrow, family will be coming out to the lake, the flag is already up. Grandkid’s and their parents will be going to the local parade in the AM where they get little flags and whatever candy they can catch. Then they all come back and we have lunch and whoever wants to go swimming, does. Relaxation and/ or lawn games, or water fun with the blow up thingiemajingies, or water skiing, then dinner and getting ready for the fireworks, just have to walk to our own little lake front in front of the house. Some may go out on the pontoon boat. That’s how we liberals here celebrate."
So Inga the State's Handmaiden does celebrate the Fourth--but why? Because xhe loves the idea of an antistatist revolt inspired by the ideas of John Locke and the authors of the Cato Letters? I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess not.
The usual State-shtuppers are protesting the Betsy Ross flag. No problem here. I prefer the Gadsden flag.
At Ft. Hood, doing PT on Monday mornings was all about positioning. You wanted to be at the front of the formation. If you were in the back, the stench from the alcohol sweat could knock you over during the run.
That's how our LT caught Teh Stupid Ones during air alert. When you are on air alert (6 weeks I think), NO alchohol. He called a surprise 3 mile run one Sunday morning. Busted about half of us.
Not sure what could be more ironic that Antifa Nazis dressing up in paramilitary black and threatening to shoot at the parade because it's too militaristic.
I know, the "liberal" commenters at Althouse and their non-existent denunciation and disassociation from Antifa, after years of whining that Trump is authoritarian.
Can anyone here point to a strong opinion from the Left about Antifa's latest?
I don't see how anyone can still identify as a Democrat.
I don't think they should be invited tot he 4th. It's for Americans.
That’s how we liberals here celebrate.
My younger son will be working tomorrow while his wife and kids watch fireworks at the lake. Fire season is early with the wet winter.
That's how conservatives celebrate. I remember one fourth I spent fixing some teen's bowler because he fired a bottle rocket holding it in his hand.
One reason for the military scenes is that we have them to thank for our freedom, thus far. I fear it may not last another generation.
Inga: Tomorrow, family will be coming out to the lake, the flag is already up. Grandkid’s and their parents will be going to the local parade in the AM where they get little flags and whatever candy they can catch. Then they all come back and we have lunch and whoever wants to go swimming, does. Relaxation and/ or lawn games, or water fun with the blow up thingiemajingies, or water skiing, then dinner and getting ready for the fireworks, just have to walk to our own little lake front in front of the house. Some may go out on the pontoon boat. That’s how we liberals here celebrate.
Now you are using the 4th of July as a prop to attack the "Other".
You just can't help yourself. It has to be about liberal VS somebody. SMH
I don't want to hear about wasteful spending until we stop paying millions of people to sit at home, get high and watch big screen TV in section 8 housing while stuffing their fat asses with food bought with an EBT card.
Maybe we could afford to do everything we want if we didn't expect only half the country to pay for it and 1 in 10 to pay for most of it. Who's running this club and who decided how the the dues is paid, because it is extremely unfair. Most Americans do not pay their fair share. Only the rich do, and they pay for more than themselves. So why do we hate them?
More Inga..
Before sunrise, the apple pies go in the oven. After the family baseball game in the field next to the orchard, we used to take the Chevy to the levy, but the levy went dry. Now, we just go to the lake.
7/3/19, 2:05 PM
Blogger Fen said...
Not sure what could be more ironic that Antifa Nazis dressing up in paramilitary black and threatening to shoot at the parade because it's too militaristic.
I know, the "liberal" commenters at Althouse and their non-existent denunciation and disassociation from Antifa, after years of whining that Trump is authoritarian.
Can anyone here point to a strong opinion from the Left about Antifa's latest?
I don't see how anyone can still identify as a Democrat.
I don't think they should be invited tot he 4th. It's for Americans.
I don’t know anything about identifying as a Democrat, but again this reinforces my point about this July 3 being like July 3 of 1863. The pure hatred, between Americans.
I would like to see all the cool stuff we get for our money. Tanks, planes, drones, carriers, etc. If a flyover makes sense for the Super Bowl then it does more so for the Fourth. Speech by trump ok if nonpartisan but not sure he is capable of doing that.
Speech by trump ok if nonpartisan but not sure he is capable of doing that.
I agree but can you imagine the left not making something out of what he says, no matter how benign ?
He trolls them, agreed, but scenes like AOC at the border crying and screaming before she has seen anything, or posing at a chain link fence with a parking lot on the other side.
Inga...Allie Oop said...
“This looks like it’s becoming much more of a Republican Party event," says one retired general.
(“The president is using the armed forces in a political ploy for his reelection campaign and I think it’s absolutely obscene,” added retired Army Maj. Gen. William Nash, a veteran of Vietnam, the Gulf War and peacekeeping operations in the Balkans.”)”
Perhaps General Nash should STFU and stand down after overseeing a litany of botched wars. Especially egregious was the Balkans where Clinton carpet bombed civilian targets and dropped thousands of CBU-87 cluster bombs resulting in the maiming of thousands of children...which are still a threat.
this reinforces my point about this July 3 being like July 3 of 1863. The pure hatred, between Americans.
Fuck off, Chuck.
My great great uncle died on June 2 after being wounded on May 22 at Vicksburg,
My mother's paternal line were only privates but they were in the Revolutionary Army. I must confess that one ancestor might have been a deserter from the British Army in 1812.
Chuck laments the hatred that he gleefully stokes every day. His open hatred of every Trump voter is only outmatched by Inga's palpable glee when Republicans are gunned down at ballparks. Chuck quotes the question about whether the left can bring itself to condemn Antifa, but naturally Chuck himself does not condemn Antifa and their vicious assaults and promises to gun down Americans.
But hey, what's a little leftist organized violence against American citizens who disagree with Marx and want to wave the American flag, right? No big deal, they all support Trump anyway. As Inga told us in this thread, the 4th of July is a Republican holiday... certainly the left and the Democrat party do not celebrate American independence anymore.
Chuck laments the hatred that he gleefully stokes every day.
I see where you’re going, but I think that Chuck mostly stokes contempt and pity for the vast internal emptiness that has him incessantly railing against someone he’ll never meet, and will certainly never match.
", but again this reinforces my point about this July 3 being like July 3 of 1863. The pure hatred, between Americans."
This is true, its been true for a couple of decades and I've been saying so for years.
buwaya said...
", but again this reinforces my point about this July 3 being like July 3 of 1863. The pure hatred, between Americans."
This is true, its been true for a couple of decades and I've been saying so for years.
Actually, no. In our every day lives we Americans get along fine. Black, white, rich, poor, Hispanic, Asian, Gay, Straight. These issues never come up among ordinary Americans. We work together and play together every day without issue. It is those idiot leftists with their men are women, war is peace, blacks are still slaves BS that is subtly working on those paying attention. Most of us are just living lives getting along with all we meet.
“Before sunrise, the apple pies go in the oven. After the family baseball game in the field next to the orchard, we used to take the Chevy to the levy, but the levy went dry. Now, we just go to the lake.”
Um... not exactly. Cherry, blueberry and lemon meringue, no need to get up before sunrise. A good baker does good prep work. We don’t “go” to the lake, we were wise enough and hard working enough to buy lake property before it cost an arm and a leg. Oh, no baseball, boring as all hell. No orchards, just farmers markets. No field next to any orchard, lake property doesn’t sit empty here in Lake Country WI. These properties are now worth roughly a million. It’s tough being a liberal living the life Trump sycophants envy.
I have no idea where people think that Trump is dictating how we celebrate the 4th or that it is about him. Other than he is a figurehead....a representation of the United States as the President. It isn't about Trump. It is about the country and the history of the country. The unique position that the United States has had from birth to current on the world stage.
If you don't like the 4th. If you hate the country. No one is making you do anything. Other than perhaps...just kindly...STFU. How about for one freaking day, just stop carping and whining?
We are flying our flag(s)again this year from the boom truck
No big family to do. Everyone is scattered. No personal fireworks because it is illegal and we don't want to burn the joint down and make PG&E shut off the power to Northern California :-D
BBQ and drinks on the deck. Tri tip roast. Santa Maria style. Corn on the cob. Cole slaw. Western style pinto beans. Apricot tart with vanilla ice cream.
Chuck laments the hatred that he gleefully stokes every day.
You're not supposed to notice that. He's above the fray, you see.
It’s tough being a liberal living the life Trump sycophants envy.
My my my. Yes. We are all sooooooo envious of you Inga /s
I'll try not to weep with envy into my scotch this afternoon while enjoying the view from our deck and of the river below. Plus the wide open expanses of pastoral beauty. A view that is unmarred by delusional liberals too, I might add :-)
Inga: "It’s tough being a liberal living the life Trump sycophants envy."
Filed under: Things Collusion Cultists Tell Themselves To Feel Better
LOL
It’s tough being a liberal living the life Trump sycophants envy.
Next comment provide your GPS co-ordinates. Perhaps we can arrange for an AC-130 flyover of your house for the Fourth.
Trump trolls the media again.
They can't help but take the bait. They're helpless fish.
MSNBC regular Eric Dyson calls the Betsy Ross flag equivalent to a Nazi Swastika and a burning KKK cross.
Because of course he did.
Lefty/LLR "patriotism"
Inga: "It’s tough being a liberal living the life Trump sycophants envy."
Yes, being the State's Handmaiden must be one long laugh riot. Tough on the knees, though.
Didnt they kill him off in terminator 2?
JFK had an ICBM rolling thru Washington during his inaugural.
But he was a democrat so Shut Up H8ers!!
Beto O'Rourke, one of the many dem losers Inga and history ignoramus readering claimed Trump was very afraid of (seriously, they actually claimed that!) has also called the Betsy Ross flag racist.
Because of course he did.
I know, the "liberal" commenters at Althouse and their non-existent denunciation and disassociation from Antifa, after years of whining that Trump is authoritarian.
This is bullshit. I have denounced and disassociated myself from the Antifa several times (mostly because you and others, particularly Michael K, continually accuse me and others of not denouncing left wing violence). Apparently, your memories suck because I have to denounce it so many times.
Of course when there is violence on the right (and rightists have killed a lot more people than the Antifa or the idiot who shot at Scalise), you deny that the perpatrator was a conservative.
Inga...Allie Oop said...
Um... not exactly. Cherry, blueberry and lemon meringue,..
You went from All-American traditionalist to elitist snob at the drop of a hat.
Imagine my surprise....
Freder, I don't recall criticizing you for not denouncing left wing violence. You do make some statements that beg for ridicule, such as military strategy and the like. There is very little right wing violence to denounce, nothing like Antiifa.
If you want an example of right wing violence, Here is one.
A member of the university’s Conservative club,
Drunken stupidity, I would call it but you are welcome.
You went from All-American traditionalist to elitist snob at the drop of a hat.
WTF?! how are blueberry, cherry and lemon meringue pies elitist? Because meringue is a French word? Sacre bleu!
Freder: "Of course when there is violence on the right (and rightists have killed a lot more people than the Antifa or the idiot who shot at Scalise), you deny that the perpatrator was a conservative."
Wow.
Talk about a Bigtime History Rewrite.
The LLR-approved Bernie Bro shot up an entire baseball team of republicans in the hopes of killing them as revenge for going after LLR Chuck's favorite "magnificent"obama achievement: obamacare
Blogger Vance said...
Chuck laments the hatred that he gleefully stokes every day. His open hatred of every Trump voter is only outmatched by Inga's palpable glee when Republicans are gunned down at ballparks. Chuck quotes the question about whether the left can bring itself to condemn Antifa, but naturally Chuck himself does not condemn Antifa and their vicious assaults and promises to gun down Americans.
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My disparaging Trump “voters” doesn’t seem so likely since I was a 2016 Trump voter. My disparagement and sarcasm is aimed at Trump fans. I can’t fault anyone who voted for Trump as a least-worst alternative since that is exactly what I did in November, 2016. I voted for the Republican nominee like I always do.
I’m just mad that it was such a shitty choice. I’m angry at the primary voters who made Trump the nominee. And I am contemptuous of the people who are now fulfilling Trump’s own sarcastic insult that he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and his base of supporters would still vote for him.
I am looking for any and every way to not be a Trump voter ever again.
Do I regret my vote? No. We got Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. The he one campaign promise that Trump fulfilled, with the absolute least credit to him.
Blogger Freder Frederson said...
You went from All-American traditionalist to elitist snob at the drop of a hat.
WTF?! how are blueberry, cherry and lemon meringue pies elitist? Because meringue is a French word? Sacre bleu!
Not doing the dance, Freder. Don't be stupid.
I have denounced and disassociated myself from the Antifa several times (mostly because you and others, particularly Michael K, continually accuse me and others of not denouncing left wing violence).
What difference does this make even if it were genuine rather than insincere and made only to defend against criticism as you admit? Many antifa leaders and members are known but keep their jobs in education and media. Meanwhile non-leftists are fired for voicing mainstream opinions Damore, Williamson, Eich. In fact the left has gotten journalists investigating antifa which means it's riskier to your employment to oppose antifa than it is to be antifa. The left has controlled each of these outcomes and the process functions exactly as the left desires regardless of whether some fraction of the left opposes it.
Freder, I don't recall criticizing you for not denouncing left wing violence.
Well you have. Your memory is slipping.
There is very little right wing violence to denounce, nothing like Antiifa.
Bullshit. If you don't believe me will you believe the ADL? Just this week the Charlottesville killer was sentenced to life in prison. We also had church burnings in Louisiana this year and Mosque attacks in 44 states since 2005 (as well as an attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin where the attacker apparently didn't know the difference between Sikhs and Muslims).
To bring together armaments and history, and who can own what: in about 1994 or so the Miss'ippi National Guard had a family day at Camp McCain (no relation to the sailors AFAIK) that included live fire demos by modern and WABAWTS ordnance.
The SP howitzer was great, but the real show for me and my friends was the civil war pieces.
There was a mixed battery of smooth and rifled guns, which fired different ammo at various targets. They probably shot off several score rounds, and the most memorable part was the shot tearing through the scrubby pine and brush downrange--eerie howly clangy noises that went on much longer than I expected in some cases.
Tomorrow we do nothing we wouldn't do on any Fourth, and maybe less since I am in a post-op state. Well enough to put the flag out, and well enough to eat some BBQ, and well enough to wish you all well.
Narr
I love a parade
MSNBC is the cat chasing laser pointer channel, it was bin Laden's favorite till they fired olbermann,
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/07/03/dems-didnt-seem-to-have-a-problem-with-betsy-ross-flag-splashed-all-over-obamas-inauguration-771258
Freder. Don't be stupid.
Well, maybe I am stupid but I don't know how anyone could claim that pretty mainstream pies are somehow elitist.
some schlub, who ended up on a wrong way street, it's only when the police stand down, as they did in Portland, do people get injured, which the rizzotto press has done as much to minimize or blame the victim,
Oh those elitist Quakers!
“Lemon Meringue Fun Facts. Lemon meringue pie is a type of baked pie, made with a crust usually made of shortcrust or shortbread pastry, lemon curd filling and a fluffy meringue topping. Also it is prepared with a bottom pie crust. The meringue is placed directly on top of the lemon filling. No upper crust is used.
“The Quakers generally receive credit for inventing lemon custard in the late 1700s. Philadelphian Elizabeth Coane Goodfellow, a pastry chef, businesswoman, and cooking school founder, who arrived in Philadelphia in 1806, expanded on lemon custard and invented lemon meringue pie.
August 15th is National Lemon Meringue Pie Day.
Lemon trees bloom and produce fruit year-round. Each tree can produce between 500 and 600 pounds of lemons in a year.
Add the juice of one lemon to an equal amount of hot water for an anti-bacterial gargle.
Food historians say lemons have been in cultivation around the Mediterranean from as early as the first century A.D.
High in vitamin C, lemons prevent scurvy, a disease that causes bleeding gums, loose teeth and aching joints. To this day, the British Navy requires ships to carry enough lemons so that every sailor can have one ounce of juice a day.
California and Arizona produce 95% of the entire U.S. lemon crop.”
I always assumed lemon meringue pies were a British invention.
Of course when there is violence on the right (and rightists have killed a lot more people than the Antifa or the idiot who shot at Scalise), you deny that the perpatrator was a conservative.
Consider yourself lucky we're not half as violent as you accuse us of being.
if you use splc or derivative new America cheat sheet, you're bound to look stupid,
I always assumed lemon meringue pies were a British invention.
I always assumed if someone took one sentence out of a multiple sentence, multiple comment dialog to prove something nonsensical..is being stupid.
Chicago used to have a St Patrick's Day parade downtown. Then the gays insisted on intruding politics. You know what ?
If you are claiming that the St Patrick's Day parade in Chicago wasn't political before the gays intruded, you are either delusional or lived in some bizarro world Chicago.
That's a lovely view, Dust Bunny Queen!! I love the water, as well - and spend almost all of my time at the lake.
we have our very own Kathy Newman-
"So what you're saying is..."
wwww said...
Typical 4th - Very local:
Morning: Put up a flag.
Go to a pancake breakfast or a local run or both.
The next thing you do is try to pass gun control.
Get fucked.
Inga: "It’s tough being a liberal living the life Trump sycophants envy."
Jesus. Most Althouse commenters are clearly successful people with varied and interesting life stories.
Inga, the conceited old biddy, imagines we "envy" her. She's never lived anywhere but the Milwaukee area and is laughably insular.
Yeah, everyone envies Inga, a bitter old totalitarian and former bedpan carrier with an IQ in double digits who believes ridiculous conspiracy theories and has done nothing but bitch and whine about Trump every day since November 2016.
Dick Durbin Fanboy Chuck: "My disparaging Trump “voters” doesn’t seem so likely since I was a 2016 Trump voter."
There is no actual evidence that Chuck voted for Trump and is precisely what an admitted Smear Merchant and Moby would say to improve their chances of advancing lefty talking points to help ensure democrat victories.
Remember, on one of the many many occasions where lefty Chuck let the mask slip he literally defined republican electoral victories as "disasters".
And he has done nothing for 3 years so much as insult every Trump voter over and over again.
During that 3 year period LLR Chuck has yet to offer a single criticism of democrat voters.
Not a single one.
Nor will there ever be one.
Just links and talking points from one far left source to another.
As would be expected.
"Inga, the conceited old biddy, imagines we "envy" her. She's never lived anywhere but the Milwaukee area and is laughably insular.
Yeah, everyone envies Inga, a bitter old totalitarian and former bedpan carrier with an IQ in double digits who believes ridiculous conspiracy theories and has done nothing but bitch and whine about Trump every day since November 2016."
Which is why Chuck and Inga make such a perfect blogging pair.
narciso: "MSNBC is the cat chasing laser pointer channel, it was bin Laden's favorite till they fired olbermann,"
And is one of LLR Chuck's primary sources for content and links.
Another giveaway.
Bullshit. If you don't believe me will you believe the ADL? Just this week the Charlottesville killer was sentenced to life in prison.
Most anti-Semitism these days is leftist and you k now it.
That Charlottesville guy was grossly overcharged and oversentenced. I wonder if that will stand on appeal.
There is no evidence he was trying to hit that woman who was standing i the middle of the street. Manslaughter, even if you do not believe he was fleeing Antifa types beating on his car. I have looked at all the videos. Have you ?
Pretty tough to exceed Stalin and Mao you twerp.. Why keep posting these silly things that make you an object of ridicule?
There is no actual evidence that Chuck voted for Trump and is precisely what an admitted Smear Merchant and Moby would say to improve their chances of advancing lefty talking points to help ensure democrat victories.
Chuck reminds me of the caller to Hugh Hewitt back when Bush was president. She said she chose "the man not the party."
Hugh, when he was on top of his game, asked her if he could ask her a question. She said Sure. He asked her who was the vice-president?
She didn't know.
If you are claiming that the St Patrick's Day parade in Chicago wasn't political before the gays intruded, you are either delusional or lived in some bizarro world Chicago.
Another ridiculous statement. Why do you do this, Freder?
Irish politics, maybe. One year my high school painted the median on Throop street, where the south side Irish had a parade, Orange,.
Boy was that an uproar.
Whatever one thinks of Trump, it’s hard to demy how frequently tone deaf, clueless, and strategically incompetent his opposition is. I’m not a particular fan of American militarism, but this is such a ridiculous non-issue.
Yup. Wifey and I were talking about it this morning.
Me: I could write 500 words on why this is a bad idea but ...
Her: But it's a little thing and it's pissing off all the right people?
Me: What am I thinking about now....?
Her: ......
I have looked at all the videos.
I have not. Is it true that he hit a van which hit the girl?
I've been avoiding antifa related stories because I spend the day in game theory, working out how many of those SOBs I could take out in one afternoon. It's not healthy.
Inga: living the life Trump sycophants envy.
"Any man who must say 'I am the King!' is no true king" - Tywin Lannister.
If you feel the need to yell at complete strangers on the internet about how happy you really are, you aren't happy.
I'm thinking...some people did something..
..and changed the subject from pies to ...what now?
Asking for April Ryan.
Freder, I don't recall criticizing you for not denouncing left wing violence. You do make some statements that beg for ridicule, such as military strategy and the like.
Freder is the one who likened our troops to "parasites" sucking on the government teat because they serve in "peacetime".
Freder: Of course when there is violence on the right -
I'm so old I can remember when Freder railed against WhatAboutism. Now he embraces it.
It's almost as if the Left doesn't really believe in the things they lecture the rest of us about.
I don't mean to be cruel, but this is why conservatives keep losing to liberals - we compromise to a ruleset that disadvantages us, thinking that the Left will abide by same ruleset when it disadvantages them.
And it's Lucy with the Football, over and over and over again.
Why would anyone want to play for a team that naive?
Yes, they told us to drop social and values issues. They said real issues are important.
Now, nobody knows what bathroom or pronoun to use, live babies are killed legally, and the former vice-President is running his campaign on nothing more than values.
"this is not who we are."
"BBQ and drinks on the deck. Tri tip roast. Santa Maria style. Corn on the cob. Cole slaw. Western style pinto beans. Apricot tart with vanilla ice cream."
Oh No, not Keto at all.
I have not. Is it true that he hit a van which hit the girl?
Yes and the van had been parked there for a while, 15 minutes at least, blocking the street,.
Freder is the one who likened our troops to "parasites" sucking on the government teat because they serve in "peacetime"
No I didn't. You are a fucking liar.
Here it is, the evening of July 3rd, on the Cape at my far left Democrat mother-in-law’s house. We’ve hung the bunting on her 1860’s sea captains house and along the front fence. Tomorrow the local parade will pass by and we will enjoy the local pols who march along with the little kids who are dressed in Independence Day costumes. We won’t talk about national politics or the political idiocy of everyone else that is not us; we’ll just enjoy the day and each other. I suggest, no, recommend that you do the same.
Another ridiculous statement. Why do you do this, Freder?
Irish politics, maybe. One year my high school painted the median on Throop street, where the south side Irish had a parade, Orange,.
Me?! You just proved my point! Two paragraphs to contradict yourself. Our late, great, belated, beloved Simon would be so proud. You'll have to work on it though, he could contradict himself in a single sentence.
Me?! You just proved my point!
Field Marshall Freder is now an expert in Irish politics. Tell me about Michael Collins and who killed him.
Dust Bunny said:
""BBQ and drinks on the deck. Tri tip roast. Santa Maria style. Corn on the cob. Cole slaw. Western style pinto beans. Apricot tart with vanilla ice cream.""
*Drool*
Pretty much the same menu here except a Boysenberry cobbler. Love your view.
Field Marshall Freder: "No I didn't. You are a fucking liar."
You are calling someone a liar? After what you pulled with your Bundy case findings lies?
LOL
Wow. Shameless.
Speech by trump ok if nonpartisan but not sure he is capable
That's rich. After the examples set by leftist. Paul Wellstone memorial ring any bells?
Leftist can't put out the cat, without making it political. What is PC, if not the politicization of every facet of life.
No comment from Freder on Michael Collins. I guess he gave up on Irish politics in Chicago.
Long way from New Orleans. I could loan him my Huey Long biography but I guess he went to bed or out to get drunk.
Freder Frederson.
Still an asshole.
LOL get fucked.
If Trump held a Mexican style celebration, the enemedia would have a collective orgasm
Howard said...
Want a flyover, go to an airshow. If you need to get your chickencuck nut off, go to a civil war reenactment
7/3/19, 9:24 AM
The criticism, negativity and bitching must take its toll on you, Howie. I think you need to tell us more about yourself, so we can all know how to be.
iowan2 said...
Speech by trump ok if nonpartisan but not sure he is capable
Now you know. One of your worst flaws, Steve, is that you'll never admit when you're wrong.
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