June 6, 2019

"Opinions can be deeply offensive, but if they don’t violate our policies, they’ll remain on our site."

"As an open platform, it’s crucial for us to allow everyone–from creators to journalists to late-night TV hosts–to express their opinions w/in the scope of our policies."

Tweeted YouTube, quoted in "YouTube is refusing to punish a star with millions of fans after he hurled homophobic slurs at a journalist" (Business Insider).

Thanks to YouTube for taking the strong free-speech position. Let us hear and decide for ourselves what we think of insults. Don't overprotect us, or we will become children.

ADDED: I was running off as I wrote this post, so I didn't get to 2 topics that commenters are talking about:

1. YouTube doesn't just allow people on and kick people off; it also monetizes and demonetizes. Different considerations arise, and I understand advertisers not wanting their product juxtaposed with, say, homophobic slurs. I used to work in an ad agency in the 1970s, and I remember putting it in the contract that an ad for an airline wouldn't run next to a story about an airplane crash. Placement of ads matters, and YouTube is selling ad space and needs to be able to present advertisers with places where they want their ads, not just flow money to video providers based on the size of the audience. Nasty speech can grab a lot of eyeballs. There need not be an automatic cash reward for that.

2. The use of the word I've been talking about for 2 days — here and here — "deeply." I think "deeply offensive" is the worst of the deeply phrases. And frankly, I don't think the purported deep offense here and elsewhere is that deep. In fact I think it's damned shallow. Deeply shallow.

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rcocean said...

Anyone who defends "Free Market Capitalism" and Crony Capitalism for deplatforming the Right, are closet leftists. OR idiots.

It reminds me of a Russian General in 1918. He had a "Principle" of pledging allegiance to Anyone ruling Russia. He was "non-partisan" in his allegiance. The Russian simply served the Head of State whoever that was. So, when Lenin took over, he hurried to Moscow (or Petrograd) to "Pledge Allegiance".

When he got off the RR Platform one of Lenin's flunky's strangled him to death with his own ribbons. A fitting end to a dumbshit who was too stupid to understand that "Grand Principles" mean nothing when they conflict with reality.

stlcdr said...

"You can have your free speech, but we will punish you for it"

Lewis Wetzel said...

"Blogger TreeJoe said...
YouTube, as a private platform, can do virtually whatever they want within their terms of service."
Substitute the word "publisher" for "platform" and you see the problem. Publishers are not allowed to do virtually they want within their terms of service. They are not allowed to libel, even if their terms of service allow it. They are allowed to do viewpoint discrimination, if they are a publisher.
If they are a common carrier like the phone company, they are not allowed to discriminate on viewpoint, but they are protected from the libel/slander actions of its users.
Facebook and Youtube want to be both open carriers and publishers. Can't be done, for the reasons we are now seeing: I go on Youtube & make a video claiming the local pizza parlor uses rats to make its pepperoni, Youtube says it's not responsible. I go on Youtube & make a video disparaging gays, and whoa, hold on, Youtube says that I am violating their arbitrary standards.

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Seeing Red said...

Sprint could decide it didn't want certain people to have mobile phones on their carrier service.

These are all private actions by private companies. How are they so very different?

Banks are already doing it.

n.n said...

"You can have your free speech, but we will punish you for it"

The implication is that Alphabet's action is politically incongruent, which limits their reaction to cutting the baby in half. Perhaps due to an intra-corporate conflict of interests.

Jim at said...

no shirt, no shoes, no service

Bake the damn cake, Howard.

walter said...

Not just bake it, decorate it to spec.

Howard said...

Let them eat cake.

Howard said...

Have your cake and eat it too

TJM said...

I am sick and tired of the perpetually offended. Knock it off lefties

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