From "Liberals’ frustration with Pelosi rises over her response to Omar dispute" (WaPo).
Also in WaPo, "Bernie Sanders’s campaign escalates fight with establishment Democrats in reprise of 2016 party rifts":
“I think this time around he wanted to make sure that people understood that he wasn’t just going to be a punching bag,” said Sanders’s campaign manager, Faiz Shakir.... “He’s comfortable having the fight within the party or outside the party, in general. That’s Bernie Sanders.”...Over at the NYT, "‘Stop Sanders’ Democrats Are Agonizing Over His Momentum":
“I think his tone in general is too Trumplike. It’s based on anger,” said Greg Hale, a longtime Democratic presidential campaign adviser who worked for Clinton in 2016. “We all need to be together and we need to have a positive message, not a negative message.”...
“Establishment Democrats have to stop holding him back,” said Linn Anderson, a graphic designer from Youngstown, Ohio, who attended a town hall Sanders participated in Sunday. Asked whether she felt there was still animosity coming from Clinton’s allies, Anderson responded, “Hell yeah.”
How, some Democrats are beginning to ask, do they thwart a 70-something candidate from outside the party structure who is immune to intimidation or incentive and wields support from an unwavering base, without simply reinforcing his “the establishment is out to get me’’ message — the same grievance Mr. Trump used to great effect?...Top-rated comment at the NYT:
That prospect is not only spooking establishment-aligned Democrats, but it is also creating tensions about what, if anything, should be done to halt Mr. Sanders....
“There’s a growing realization that Sanders could end up winning this thing, or certainly that he stays in so long that he damages the actual winner,” said David Brock, the liberal organizer, who said he has had discussions with other operatives about an anti-Sanders campaign and believes it should commence “sooner rather than later.”
But to some veterans of the still-raw 2016 primary, a heavy-handed intervention may only embolden him and his fervent supporters....
If the Democratic "establishment" does anything to stop the nomination of Bernie Sanders, I will never vote for a Democrat again in my life. Let the best candidate win, and if Bernie loses the nomination fair and square by not winning enough primary votes, then obviously he shouldn't be the Democratic nominee. but if there is anything with super delegates or some other shinnanigans, then Dems will be hurting their own chances of winning in the general election.And what delight Trump will take — publicly and amusingly viciously.
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what is ilhan omar's position on wife beating?
Standing up?
Or kneeling down?
https://www.foxnews.com/world/qatari-academic-seen-in-shocking-video-explaining-how-muslim-men-should-beat-their-wives
Give it up, Cook. Fen has the better of the argument. You lost. It's over.
The longer you thrash in your impotent rage, the crazier you look. We get the point, but we knew it already.
Go to bed. Try to be better tomorrow.
The extremists of the Left may be frustrated with Pelosi, but I can only barely imagine how frustrated the Blue Dog moderates are at this point.
“Give it up, Cook. Fen has the better of the argument. You lost. It's over.
The longer you thrash in your impotent rage, the crazier you look.”
Says the guy who thinks Fen makes sense. Too funny!
Argument by assertion isn't worth the trouble of refuting.
I think Bernie’s gonna pull a Trump on the Democrats. If Bernie, like Trump, can pull in 20-30% of the votes in the majority of the primaries while each of the other 17 candidates get 1-15% each, Bernie will get the nomination. In a similar manner that Trump did in the GOP primaries in 2016. Can Bernie beat Trump? I think we’re gonna find out.
Can I get credit for this if I'm the first to say: I can't wait to see the platform from the Dem convention next year. It's not like it's run of the mill any time, neither is the GOP's I'm sure, but they can't even say a prayer during their proceedings ( was that fake news? Didn't they boo when they debated keeping God in their platform?). This one should be a beaut! From beginning to end. Trump,would break another political wall by asking his opponent if he agrees with xxxx in his/her party's platform, a win-win (they defend crazy or denounce and lose votes). If they were as bright as they think they are, they'd not be in this position to begin with.
Fen said...
Cook: "America is founded on the principle that our freedoms and rights are given to us by god, not by the government."
That's not what inalienable means.
Well, yes that is what it means.
"The spelling may vary but the meaning is clear: an inalienable right is something that can’t be given or taken away by a government or another legal power."
It's a fantasy, but that's what it means.
I gave her 8 years of my life over 3 tours. And you?
You're only 8 years old?
"Well, yes that is what it means."
No, it really doesn't. Inalienable does not mean God-given:
"Inalienable right refers to rights that cannot be surrendered, sold or transferred to someone else"
https://definitions.uslegal.com/i/inalienable-right/
Fen said...
Cook: "America is founded on the principle that our freedoms and rights are given to us by god, not by the government."
Cook didn't say that.
I said that.
It was easier than spelling unalienable which I am not even sure is a word. It just says it is another word for inalienable. One of those is a word. Maybe both.
I bypass that crap and say god given. Gaea. I don't know how to spell that either. The Universe. Whatever.
Government cannot take away my right to have guns. It can try to take them from me. Cook can get a bunch of his Marxist/Fascist friends together and vote for people who will pass a law to take away my guns.
But god gave me the right to shoot gun grabbing government fascists in the face.
If it comes to that I wont stop at the government agents.
Fen said..
"Inalienable right refers to rights that cannot be surrendered, sold or transferred to someone else"
That's fine. Who doesn't matter.
It might have been Gaea that gave me the right to shoot gun grabbers in the face though.
Either way is fine. Whatever the reason I get to shoot the gun grabbers in the face. Then I am going o hunt down all the people that voted to have people try to take my guns.
I actually sympathize with your assertion we be more preemptive.
If a combination of democrats/republican cucks win and put the globalists back in charge of our government then I need to go buy a yellow vest and burn DC to the ground.
Not to put too fine a point on it, if the Democrats allow either the septuagenarian crank or the jihad apologists (or both) to define their party they are well and truly fuct in 2020.
One thing you can say for Bernie, I don’t see him using the IRS, NSA, CIA, and FBI to try to win elections the way Obama did.
Qwinn said: The death penalty for Treason isn't just "not American", it is in fact codified in the Constitution as very much American.
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The Constitution is silent on what the penalty for treason should be, leaving it up to the Congress.
Art III, Section 3, para 2.
Our rights are inalienable because they come from God and not the government. Foundational.
Well, I always said Achilles was an extremist loon. Looks like I was right. How many of you are going to follow him?
It was easier than spelling unalienable which I am not even sure is a word. It just says it is another word for inalienable. One of those is a word. Maybe both.
It means they cannot be taken or given away,. Calvin Coolidge's grandfather gave him some land but included a provision that he could not sell or incumber it. He had to keep it.
PaulJ said...
Can I get credit for this if I'm the first to say: I can't wait to see the platform from the Dem convention next year.
They will probably begin by cursing God, and follow that with other rituals that demonstrate their inability to govern a self-ruling people.
"Our rights are inalienable because they come from God and not the government."
No. Inalienable means they cant be taken or given away. They are not given to us by anyone. If God gave them then He can take them away (through an anti-pope or false prophet). If God is proven to not exist then any rights he gave are likewise non-existent.
I know what you mean to say, but you are setting a snare for yourself.
Robert Cook said...
"Why am I not surprised Cookie is an antisemite?"
Ha! As if.
4/16/19, 4:58 PM
That sounds like you'd like to be an anti-Semite, but can't quite manage it, and are jealous of those who are. Kinda similar usage as "I wish."
Why would any good person want to defend an Islamofascist anti-Semite? What sort of political party is it that requires it's members to rallying around such a person? Trump may be a grade A jackass, but it's clear he loves the USA. With Ilhan Omar, it's pretty obvious that she doesn't much care for America.
And sorry Achilles, didn't intend for you to catch friendly fire.
We're on the same page.
https://youtu.be/GjM6PyniYxU
Maybe the country is going crazy and wants socialism but I think the middle-aged experienced people have decided that Trump will win in 2020 and they aren't going to exhaust themselves fighting him. The only people running are people who can't see how the game is going and these people and the new Dems turn to insults because they have no solutions. Ilhan is insulting the American people every time she speaks, she is the worst. But she's just carrying out a tendency to its extreme. Pelosi, Schumer and the rest insult half the American people every time they speak. Why? Because Dem policies have created the problems we face and Dems have no chance of winning the next election so they've sent in the clowns to play to the kids.
Repubs have problems too, getting sick from laughing, eating too much popcorn, holding back, "I told you so". But we must remain vigilant and turn out at the next election because the Dems always have the cheater card to play. And, yes, there is always Dem cheating in the big cities. That's why their returns come in last.
Great comment wild swan 12:33
Inga: "Well, I always said Achilles was an extremist loon."
Why?
Does he believe what he reads in hoax dossiers?
Blogger Fen said...
"Our rights are inalienable because they come from God and not the government."
"No. Inalienable means they cant be taken or given away. They are not given to us by anyone. If God gave them then He can take them away (through an anti-pope or false prophet). If God is proven to not exist then any rights he gave are likewise non-existent.
I know what you mean to say, but you are setting a snare for yourself."
Like life liberty and property, they are your's by the simple fact of just being alive. All those things are, in truth ,the inheritance if every human on the planet.
inalienable. they cannot be taken away except by force and you cannot assign them to any one or anything else, "endowed by their creator" whatever you would like that to be.
“To crush your enemies. See them driven before you and to hear the lamentation of the women.”
The slogan of a psychopath.
Actually, it's the slogan of (then future California governor) Arnold Schwarzenegger in the (first) Conan the Barbarian movie (1982) — who also reportedly mentioned it occasionally thereafter during his terms as governor.
One might note though that that quote did not originate with “Conan” in the Barbarian but rather was actually said (reportedly in almost exactly those words) by 13th-century real (near) world conqueror Genghis Khan!
Here we have historian Harold Lamb telling the tale (quoting…):
[Khan:] “What, in all the world, could bring the greatest happiness?”
[Officer:] “The open steppe, a clear day, and a swift horse under you,” responded the officer after a little thought, “and a falcon on your wrist to start up hares.”
[Khan:] “Nay,” responded the Khan, “to crush your enemies, to see them fall at your feet — to take their horses and goods and hear the lamentation of their women. That is best.”
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(Harold Lamb, Genghis Khan: The Emperor of All Men, Doubleday, 1927, p. 107)
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Pace Robert Cook, Genghis Khan was not so much a “psychopath” as the (foreign: Mongol) creator of a potent military machine — who subsequently employed it to conquer (Northern) China, among other great civilized realms — directly resulting in the deaths of millions of helpless farmers, whom the Mongols with their nomad ideology (also exemplified in the “Officer's” interjection in the quote above, not just Khan's) regarded as much less than fully human.
Thus, extensively employing such a motto in this day and age probably isn't a particularly good idea, even if Schwarzenegger got away with it for a while.
"Cook: 'America is founded on the principle that our freedoms and rights are given to us by god, not by the government.'"
I didn't say that; I disputed it, as there is no god.
"Give it up, Cook. Fen has the better of the argument. You lost. It's over.
"The longer you thrash in your impotent rage, the crazier you look."
(Smile.)
Rage? I'm not even angry! I post in a mood of amused amazement at the nitwittery I find here (and appreciation for the sporadic intelligent and thoughtful comments, such as from Buwaya and J. Farmer, and a few others).
I'm puzzled regarding your statement about Fen. Is he making an argument? What is it? As far as I can see, he's just blurting out inchoate expressions of hate, wishing to see other Americans shot down in the streets for their presumed political beliefs. It strikes me that it is Fen who is dealing with rage issues.
The Declaration of Independence says: "...they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...." So, under American tradition, our bedrock rights come from God. That doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be obtained in some other way, but I'd recommend that people be very sure of alternative sources before striking out on their own.
Inga the Red Virgin asked who among us would follow Achilles when/if he's forced to put extra holes in the skulls of Inga's pals once we reach the tipping point. M'lady, I humbly submit that if that day ever comes, you won't - at least initially - see organized companies of normal people moving through S.F.'s Tenderloin District in a hunt for leftwing orcs. Such activity will likely be done by individuals, as organizing would be too easily flagged and then infiltrated by Comey/Clapper-type globalist agents.
No, the first round of fumigation will be performed by the lone wolf (albeit thousands of them), keeping his own counsel and tight control of the list of names and addresses he's been compiling for many months. There will be no "following" in the early going. But there WILL be quite a few surprised academics, community organizers, journalists and left coast politicians waking up to breakfast with Lucifer once this get started.
@Basil Duke:
Hmmm...sounds like terrorist mass murder to me. But then, it isn't surprising to hear an admission that America's right-most fascist fringe is populated by some number of murderous thugs.
Cook, you're a ding dong - demented and evil, certainly, but a ding dong at heart. One can only have a bike lock swung at his head so many times by vicious communist scum like yourself before the dial is ramped up to '11.' Not '10,' mind you, but ELEVEN!!!! It'll be a wretched day when it happens, but it's coming, as sure as the horns on your head. I will continue to pray for your soul, damned though it already is.
As far as I can see, Fen isn't talking about killing people because they have different political ideas, but because they're carrying out a concerted plan to try to deprive him of those inalienable rights.
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