In evolutionary terms, the dog species has evolved to retain the puppy characteristics of affection and seeking comfort and companionship. My basset hound is six inches away as a thunderstorm is passing over head now.
That's because according to the movie "The Lobster", all people who remain romantically alone or are romantically unsuccessful are eventually turned into an animal of their choice. Collin Farrell's character chooses a lobster, but for unorthodox reasons, and as the headmaster mentions, most people just choose "dog" on their entry form...which is why there are so many dogs in the world.
So when you look into a dog's eyes, your seeing a person, albeit a romantically failed one.
Wolf pups bark, but wolf adults howl. It is said that the barking of dogs is a result of a domestication relationship between humans and dogs that favored neoteny--the sexual maturity of immature forms--so that wolf pups evolved into adult dogs with puppy characteristics.
It is also said that dogs' barking, rather than howling, imitates human speech.
Whatever the case, the relationship between Man and Dog is one of the most wonderful things int he world. Arf.
The movie "Wiener Dog" gives new meaning to the phrase "Life's a bitch and then you die." Or, at least, it clarifies it.
I got a friend with two pit bulls. He keeps them in cages, in the house, and only lets them outside for feeding. When they come close to him, he kicks them.
They've made him a much easier person to get along with.
the dog species has evolved to retain the puppy characteristics of affection and seeking comfort and companionship
Yeah, we've wolves selectively bred for more puppy like characteristics enabaling a process called neoteny. Essentially the modern domesticated dog is not unlike an overgrown wolf pup. Most breeds generally has a shorter more puppy-like snout and other features. In extreme cases (like chihuahuas) they may even appear embryonic in nature.
Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world.
dog eat dog (A situation) characterized by ruthless behavior and competition. It's dog eat dog right now at school because all the top students are competing to be valedictorian. Don't expect this kind of consideration in the real world—it's dog eat dog out there.
He left out drug-sniffing dogs. They can also be trained to sniff out other forms of contraband. But aside from their usefulness, a dog is the most delightful and loyal friend a human can have.
The important question of the day, however: Will there be a game tonight or will it be rained out? Why can't these cities install retractable roofs, like Safeco Field and others? It's ridiculous to have games postponed--especially in the WS.
"Although the comparisons are incomplete, because of the limited range of studies of some of the other relevant species, we conclude that dog cognition is influenced by the membership of all three of these groups [canid; social cursorial hunters; domestic animal] and taking all three groups into account, dog cognition does not look exceptional."
"Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world."
Why is it any less abhorrent that we eat cows and pigs? (I do, too.) They are intelligent, sociable animals with personalities. Cows, I've learned, enjoy problem-solving.
The important question of the day, however: Will there be a game tonight or will it be rained out? Why can't these cities install retractable roofs, like Safeco Field and others? It's ridiculous to have games postponed--especially in the WS.
I know, huh?
They've been trying to figure out how to play the World Series without retractable roofs since October 1, 1903 and still can't figure it out.
I own 4 dogs (a pomapoo, a rat terrier, a corgi-border collie and an American Bully pit), and I am currently dog-sitting 4 other dogs (standard poodle, doberman, large terrier mix, and an American Bully pit puppy) for family members.
I love them all and cannot image life without them, but man, 8 dogs underfoot is a LOT!
p.s. - Crack Emmcee's friend is the one that should be kicked, and his dog's taken away.
We adopted a rescue dog and due to a miscommunication we forgot to walk him. I walked into the bathroom and there was pee all around the toilet. I'm like...did I do that? Honey? WTF? Then we both said at the same time, "The dog tried to use the toilet!"
Trumpit said... Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world.
I forget if I've ever said this before, but that may be the first sensible thing you've ever posted.
Why is it any less abhorrent that we eat cows and pigs? (I do, too.) They are intelligent, sociable animals with personalities. Cows, I've learned, enjoy problem-solving.
It really isn't, Cookie. I love all creatures, great and small, and eat them with alacrity [and sometimes with horseradish]. They would eat me, too, if given half a chance and were hungry.
Re pit bulls: There should be a moratorium on breeding them [or letting them breed] and those in shelters [and shelters are full of them] should be euthanized. It's not the poor dogs' fault they were bred by unscrupulous human beings to fight to kill. And, no, it's not how they are handled, either. It's the genes. They can be sweet family pets and yet can maul/kill a toddler--or an adult--without hesitation.
Last week, my genius dog tore up my wallet and credit cards, ate $25.00, half my driver's license and half a roll of toilet paper. The good news is, he wiped his axx as he pooped. The bad news is, he still doesn't know how to drive. Well, maybe that's good news too. If he took the car he'd of run out of gas and I didn't have any way to pay.
Doge evolved from being a tool, to companion, to a suitable substitute for children.
Having started out as a child with with rejected police dogs bred in Germany for protection, and black labs for duck hunting, switching over to chocolate/yellow labs once my first grandchild was born--
I've been through all 3 phases; luckily, maintain that a dog is all of the above.
I guess my point is the World Series should have been over two weeks ago-
That's why I was hoping the Brewers would win, and have the series in cold weather cities...so maybe they'd bring back a few double headers, and start the series the 1st week of October, like it's supposed to.
Dogs reason and understand consequences but are impulsive, a bit like children.
There was a video around a couple of years ago of a labrador planning his raid on the counter top.
They remember. Ever since Juliet was mauled by an unleashed dog three years ago, she doesn't like other dogs. She remembers places and experiences. All dogs do. Think of them as four year old children and it all makes sense.
I am not a big fan of stories that anthropomorphize animals.
He pretty much tries to figure out how a wolf or dog might think. It was an experiment. He did the first one then wondered if he could reverse it.
It's a bit like "Watership Down," which I read to my kids. It is based on "The Private Life of the Rabbit"which was written about years of observation. When the kids were teenagers, I was able to show them the real Watership Down in south England.
@Mockturtle - the same ignorant characterizations have been made about German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, Mastiffs, Bulldogs, Great Danes, Dalmatians and more.
There is no such thing as an inherently vicious or unstable breed. Undesirable traits can come from irresponsible breeding, and owners that do not know how to properly socialize dogs. There are also breeds that have had sub-branches that have been poorly bred and that attract bad owners who might handle their dogs improperly, neglect them, chain them up, abuse them, train them to fight, etc.
My avatar is my current American Bully, Coozy, and she is the best dog I have ever owned, and over my lifetime I have had over 20 dogs, so that is saying something.
"I got a friend with two pit bulls. He keeps them in cages, in the house, and only lets them outside for feeding. When they come close to him, he kicks them."
John: OT, and strictly FWIW, we had a Siamese cat once who used our downstairs toilet for both functions; we had made no effort to train her (had no idea it was even possible), and when years later we remodeled the bathroom and replaced the toilet she stopped using it. She was very efficient and tidy about it, but we could never persuade her to flush. Nobody's perfect.
"Dogs can't reason, or understand consequences, or plan long term...."
My parents came home once and before they put the key into the lock, they peeked into the window on one side of the front door and peeked into the small part of the living room they could see. Our family dog, an Alaskan Malamute named Buck, (after one of Jack London's dogs, I believe), was sleeping on the couch...where (he knew)he was not supposed to be. Once he heard the key turn in the lock, he quickly aroused himself and got down onto the floor in front of the couch, pretending he had been laying there.
Understanding evolution? Blank slate liberals are most evident in denying that there is any genetic component to dog behavior. Pit bulls have become the favorite rescue animal for SJWs, almost a way flaunting their blank slate, everything is social construct world view.
When they react to my concerns about seeing their pit bulls unleashed on the hiking trails by assuring me, its not the breed, its the owner, they go quiet when I suggest putting down the owners in the case of terrible pit bull attacks.
AustinRoth asserts: @Mockturtle - the same ignorant characterizations have been made about German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, Mastiffs, Bulldogs, Great Danes, Dalmatians and more.
How many of these other breeds were bred specifically for pit fighting---fighting another dog until one of them is dead?
There is no such thing as an inherently vicious or unstable breed. Undesirable traits can come from irresponsible breeding, and owners that do not know how to properly socialize dogs.
I completely disagree.
Every dog, as with a human, is unique. That said, certain breeds are bred for certain things--hence the term.
Some are smart, some more docile, some socialize, some don't. Some will kill you, some won't.
I have a mutt with a significant component of pit bull. Dead ringer for half the other dogs from shelters around here. She's kind of like one of those holograms that look different from different angles: From the side, aw, black lab. From the front: Uh-oh, pit bull. When we recognized this part of her ancestry we were worried, knowing nothing of pit bulls but horrible headlines - pit bull kills toddler, that sort of thing.
So naturally we went online, and found three strains of thought: 1) They're all immediately or latently vicious, and should be put down; 2) pure slander, there are no bad dogs, only bad owners; 3) Help! I just got a mutt and realized it's a pit bull, how worried should I be?
The best warning I've had was, Lab/pit mix? Don't ever set your beer on the coffee table, that wagging tail will knock it right off.
Anyway she's a sweet girl, full of love and happy to have a home these last five years. I don't accept that she and I are responsible for what her distant cousins do. I do think there's such a thing as breed behavior - she's not likely to attack, but she is strong and stubborn and fearless, and if she did she would do a hell of a lot more harm than our little Shih-Tzu mutt can. She loves people but I have to keep her on a very tight leash around other dogs (she adores the semi-Shih-Tzu, all other dogs are Threat).
And, robother, 3:52: I'm largely with you. I understand it's on me not to let others feel threatened by her. I understand why they might. And it is my responsibility to make sure she doesn't hurt anyone, ever.
JML: "Last week, my genius dog tore up my wallet and credit cards..."
After six weeks of dog-obedience school, my dog and I won 2nd Place. On the way home, he chewed up the ribbon, which now read 2nd Pla og Obe ce chool. Framed it.
here is no such thing as an inherently vicious or unstable breed. Undesirable traits can come from irresponsible breeding,
LOL. See, that's a new version of "no true Scotsman" to me, that's why I come here!
My kindly childhood neighbor growing up still lives in the same house and recently went for a walk and had a couple of his 80 odd year old fingers ripped off, and not by a black Labrador. I wouldn't have a pit bull around my children. You might be special in the eyes of God and so He will protect your loved ones. I prefer to take a more active hand in keeping my family safe. But if you insist on having a pit bull, you better be one of those owners who is constantly vigilant and competent in dog handling. Same goes for German shepherds.
Why is it any less abhorrent that we eat cows and pigs? (I do, too.) They are intelligent, sociable animals with personalities. Cows, I've learned, enjoy problem-solving.
I must try to wean myself off cow and pig.
I hear you. I long to do so myself. I have been mostly successful not eating pigs anymore. I had a troubling dream and it moved me to stop.
30 years ago I was lucky enough to have my vet give me a rescue dog. I couldn't figure out what breed it was. A lovely black and white dog with an erect tail and a prancing stride proud as Lucifer. She was a handsome dog and she knew it.
Someone identified her as a Karelian Bear Dog. She fit the breed standard all right, The breed is a Spitz type dog--originally bread in Finland to hunt moose and bear. They are still rare here in the States. They've been used for bear control in the national parks here. They can and will take on a bear or a mountain lion. They also can be aggressive with other dogs--and tend to be a one master/one family breed. They are protective.
Well my particular Karelian Bear Dog was a pussy cat with people--not aggressive towards strangers at all. I discussed this with a woman who ran a kennel in Wyoming where she bred Karelian Bear Dogs. Lots of her animals were headed off to work with the Forest Service or to people who live and travel in forests where bear and cougars are present. When I discussed the dog's temperament she sniffed, "Your dog is overly socialized."
Not my fault lady--I "inherited" the dog when its former owner could not keep it.
I'm sure the traditionalists wouldn't like Fenway Park to be brought out of the stone age, though.
You ever seen "The Departed" or "Black Mass"? (That's called "carriage wit," the stuff you should have said, but you don't think of . until the carriage ride home.)
"Achilles said... I am not a big fan of stories that anthropomorphize animals."
Dogs are superior to humans in many ways. Dogs don't lie, cheat, steal, and murder in the evil way humans do. Humans are far more vicious than the most aggressive dog.
Trumpit said... Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world.
I forget if I've ever said this before, but that may be the first sensible thing you've ever posted. ***********************
A billion Hindus out there might think the same thing of *us* for eating cows.
"Chaque à son gout", as the snail-eating Frenchies say.
In Calcutta I once made the mistake of throwing a brick down on a diseased and half-dead rat at my feet, only to have an angry crowd gather to chastise me for killing one of God's creatures.
I beat a hasty retreat, as I felt they no longer regarded *me* as one of God's creatures.)
Dogs don't lie, cheat, steal, and murder in the evil way humans do. - Strumpit
My dog steals, he lies in a way, though he is not very good at it since he hasn't figured out the parts about hiding evidence, sure he cheats, and if you don't think that dogs murder, you should try having a flock of chickens in an area where people have dogs.
[My dog steals, he lies in a way, though he is not very good at it since he hasn't figured out the parts about hiding evidence, sure he cheats, and if you don't think that dogs murder, you should try having a flock of chickens in an area where people have dogs.}
Okay, maybe YOUR dog is the rare evil one. I suspect you've been Trump brainwashed to the point that you can't distinguish your bad dog from evil Trump. Ultimately, your dog can be rehabilitated and a new stable owner located. You, on the other hand, are hopeless and should be put down.
The ever-smarmy Neil DeGrasse Tyson did a piece involving a border collie trained to remember the name of a THOUSAND plush toys. He demonstrated that the pooch could "fetch" any number of the toys, if asked for them by name. A remarkable feat of MEMORY.
But what was REALLY amazing was Tyson introducing a toy neither the dog nor his owner were not allowed to see beforehand. The doll was a spitting image of Charles Darwin and so, "Darwin" he was.
"Darwin" was randomly placed with six or so other toys, the latter all being from the thousand the collie knew by name, behind the couch Tyson was sitting on.
When Tyson said, "Go fetch Darwin!", the collie went behind the couch, looked again and again at the plush toys, DEDUCED that the toy he DIDN'T recognize/know by name MUST be Darwin, and brought him back to Tyson.
Back when, behaviorist B.F. Skinner used to argue that non-human animals were basically automatons, programmed to predictably behave in certain scripted fashion---no intellect, no reasoning or LOGIC in there, just stimulus-and-response.
(kinda like NPCs and SJWs on college campi)
Sure, animals could learn new behaviors through "operant conditioning", where lab critters were rewarded with food or punished with electrical currents.
But using logical thinking to solve problems they had never faced was out of the question.
Thousands of YouTube videos of animals, behaving in creative/adaptive/non-intuitive ways Skinner never could have imagined, have falsified his conclusions, a common fate when scientific "giants" are later cast aside as simply wrong, or not in keeping with the political zeitgeist.
This whole man-human interaction was wonderfully explained by Ortega y Gosset in Meditations on Hunting. His hypothesis is that the human canine margin is they would help us take care of our young and we would help them take care of their young.
"Hello, my name is Billy Bob and I don't give a damn I got myself some white sheets straight from the Ku Klux Klan I got myself a daughter and she's a Mongoloid Because I married my sister and our gene pool's been destroyed Let's do it!
We got ourself a sheriff and his name's Bobby Joe One day he said to me "Them punk rockers gotta go" So we hopped into his pickup truck with a gun rack on the back And we beat up on them punks and we beat up on them blacks Because
So if you should happen to come to our little town It might be wise if you didn't hang around 'Cause we hate blacks and we hate Jews And we hate punks but we love the F.U.s Let's do it!"
Is it me or does that guy have really big hands. I wanted to pay attention but I kept getting distracted by his huge hands. Mrs Bare might be one lucky woman.
A neighbor has what I was told is a Japanese mountain dog. Well, that's what the other neighbor told me. I looked up Japanese mountain dog and I cannot find anything. But I did find this photo and it looks like her. I love her.
A neighbor has what I was told is a Japanese mountain dog. Well, that's what the other neighbor told me. I looked up Japanese mountain dog and I cannot find anything. But I did find this photo and it looks like her. I love her.
Looks similar to an Akita with different coloring.
ES GIBT TAGE, DA WÜNSCHT ICH, ICH WÄR MEIN HUND SONGTEXT
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund Ich läg' faul auf meinem Kissen und säh' mir mitleidig zu Wie mich wilde Hektik packt zur Morgenstund' Und verdrossen von dem Schauspiel, legt' ich mich zurück zur Ruh' Denn ich hätte zwei Int'ressen Erstens Schlafen, zweitens Fressen Und was sonst schöngeistige Dinge angeht Wäre ausschließlich Verdauung Der Kern meiner Weltanschauung Und der Knochen, um den diese Welt sich dreht Wär' allein meiner Meditationen Grund Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund Und ich hätte seine keilförmige Nase, dann erschien' Mir die Umwelt vor ganz neuem Hintergrund Und ich ordnete sie ein in ganz andre Kategorien: Die, die aufrecht geh'n, die kriechen Die, die wohl, die übel riechen Und den Typen, die mir stinken, könnt' ich dann Hose oder Rock zerreißen Und sie in den Hintern beißen Was ich heut' nur in extremen Fällen kann Denn ich kenn' meinen zahnärztlichen Befund Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund Und dann kümmerte mich kein Besuch, kein Klatsch, keine Affär'n Redete mir nicht mehr Fusseln an den Mund Um irgendwelchen Strohköpfen irgendetwas zu erklär'n Denn anstatt zu diskutieren Legte ich mich stumm auf ihren Schoß Und sie kraulten mir zwangsläufig den Bauch Und sollt's an der Haustür schellen Würd' ich hingeh'n, würde bellen Froh, dass ich niemanden reinzulassen brauch' Und ich sagte: „Tut mir leid, aber zur Stund“ Ist der Boss nicht da, und ich bin nur der Hund.“
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund Denn mir scheint, dass ich als er beträchtliche Vorteile hätt' Denn ich lebte, wie ich leb', weiter im Grund Äße zwar unter dem Tisch, doch schlief' ich noch in meinem Bett Sparte aber ungeheuer Zahlte nur noch Hundesteuer Nur in einem bin ich als Mensch besser dran Darum mag er mich beneiden Denn ich bin der von uns beiden Der die Kühlschranktür allein aufmachen kann Und das sind Momente, die genieße ich Denn ich weiß, dann wünscht mein Hund, er wäre ich
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In evolutionary terms, the dog species has evolved to retain the puppy characteristics of affection and seeking comfort and companionship. My basset hound is six inches away as a thunderstorm is passing over head now.
Rhhardin call your office.
That's because according to the movie "The Lobster", all people who remain romantically alone or are romantically unsuccessful are eventually turned into an animal of their choice. Collin Farrell's character chooses a lobster, but for unorthodox reasons, and as the headmaster mentions, most people just choose "dog" on their entry form...which is why there are so many dogs in the world.
So when you look into a dog's eyes, your seeing a person, albeit a romantically failed one.
This must be why dogs seem so happy all the time.
If my dog learns to drive and work a can opener, I'm toast.
Brian Hare was having a bad hair day with neuro-psycological babble. Women love that stuff.
(eaglebeak)
Wolf pups bark, but wolf adults howl. It is said that the barking of dogs is a result of a domestication relationship between humans and dogs that favored neoteny--the sexual maturity of immature forms--so that wolf pups evolved into adult dogs with puppy characteristics.
It is also said that dogs' barking, rather than howling, imitates human speech.
Whatever the case, the relationship between Man and Dog is one of the most wonderful things int he world. Arf.
The movie "Wiener Dog" gives new meaning to the phrase "Life's a bitch and then you die." Or, at least, it clarifies it.
I got a friend with two pit bulls. He keeps them in cages, in the house, and only lets them outside for feeding. When they come close to him, he kicks them.
They've made him a much easier person to get along with.
the dog species has evolved to retain the puppy characteristics of affection and seeking comfort and companionship
Yeah, we've wolves selectively bred for more puppy like characteristics enabaling a process called neoteny. Essentially the modern domesticated dog is not unlike an overgrown wolf pup. Most breeds generally has a shorter more puppy-like snout and other features. In extreme cases (like chihuahuas) they may even appear embryonic in nature.
The story of Romeo the Wolf in Juneau.
Happy story. Promise.
In the basset groups that constitutes most of my facebook interest, people ask if we talk to our dogs. Mine answers back.
She has two barks. One means "I want to go out and pee." The other means"I'm hungry."
If we are out too long with her left at home, she will sometimes go into the bathroom and pee. She knows that's where you do it.
The whole house is tile floors so a mop takes care of it.
Her eyesight is not too good and she is getting a little senile. She still loves her walks but has to go very slowly up the last hill on the way home.
Blogger Achilles said...
The story of Romeo the Wolf in Juneau.
Have you read the two Jack London novels, "Call of the Wild" and "White Fang?"
The first is his story of a dog going back the wild and the second is the story of a wolf/dog mix going to civilization.
Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world.
dog eat dog
(A situation) characterized by ruthless behavior and competition. It's dog eat dog right now at school because all the top students are competing to be valedictorian. Don't expect this kind of consideration in the real world—it's dog eat dog out there.
Michael K: "Call of the Wild"
I guess we're past the point where any business book sells, but I always thought someone should annotate this as a guide for middle managers.
Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs.
And some ex-presidents.
He left out drug-sniffing dogs. They can also be trained to sniff out other forms of contraband. But aside from their usefulness, a dog is the most delightful and loyal friend a human can have.
The important question of the day, however: Will there be a game tonight or will it be rained out? Why can't these cities install retractable roofs, like Safeco Field and others? It's ridiculous to have games postponed--especially in the WS.
Under capitalism is dog eat dog. Under socialism is other way around.
"Although the comparisons are incomplete, because of the limited range of studies of some of the other relevant species, we conclude that dog cognition is influenced by the membership of all three of these groups [canid; social cursorial hunters; domestic animal] and taking all three groups into account, dog cognition does not look exceptional."
"Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world."
Why is it any less abhorrent that we eat cows and pigs? (I do, too.) They are intelligent, sociable animals with personalities. Cows, I've learned, enjoy problem-solving.
I must try to wean myself off cow and pig.
The important question of the day, however: Will there be a game tonight or will it be rained out? Why can't these cities install retractable roofs, like Safeco Field and others? It's ridiculous to have games postponed--especially in the WS.
I know, huh?
They've been trying to figure out how to play the World Series without retractable roofs since October 1, 1903 and still can't figure it out.
I don't like that so many things that taste really good also happen to be pretty smart and charming.
Hyperbole and a Half begs to differ:
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/07/dog.html
Disgusting destructive animals,wolves, that trick people into feeding them.
No question my dogs would enjoy Scary Black Cherry ice cream. They're tone deaf.
I own 4 dogs (a pomapoo, a rat terrier, a corgi-border collie and an American Bully pit), and I am currently dog-sitting 4 other dogs (standard poodle, doberman, large terrier mix, and an American Bully pit puppy) for family members.
I love them all and cannot image life without them, but man, 8 dogs underfoot is a LOT!
p.s. - Crack Emmcee's friend is the one that should be kicked, and his dog's taken away.
There are also those ancient stories of wolves raising young children.
she will sometimes go into the bathroom and pee.
We adopted a rescue dog and due to a miscommunication we forgot to walk him. I walked into the bathroom and there was pee all around the toilet. I'm like...did I do that? Honey? WTF? Then we both said at the same time, "The dog tried to use the toilet!"
"How's it going Mr. Peterson?"
"It's a dog eat dog world, Woody and I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear."
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Blogger mockturtle said...
He left out drug-sniffing dogs
I have a story about drug sniffing dogs and their handlers.
They are not fool proof, especially with fool for a handler.
Crack Emmcee's friend is the one that should be kicked, and his dog's taken away.
Serve him right if the pit bulls ate him, like that girl in Kentucky
Trumpit said...
Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world.
I forget if I've ever said this before, but that may be the first sensible thing you've ever posted.
Why is it any less abhorrent that we eat cows and pigs? (I do, too.) They are intelligent, sociable animals with personalities. Cows, I've learned, enjoy problem-solving.
It really isn't, Cookie. I love all creatures, great and small, and eat them with alacrity [and sometimes with horseradish]. They would eat me, too, if given half a chance and were hungry.
They've made him a much easier person to get along with.
That's the kind of subtle humor I come here for.
Dogs can't reason, or understand consequences, or plan long term. So they are a lot like Democrats and probably would all be Democrats.
Re pit bulls: There should be a moratorium on breeding them [or letting them breed] and those in shelters [and shelters are full of them] should be euthanized. It's not the poor dogs' fault they were bred by unscrupulous human beings to fight to kill. And, no, it's not how they are handled, either. It's the genes. They can be sweet family pets and yet can maul/kill a toddler--or an adult--without hesitation.
They've been trying to figure out how to play the World Series without retractable roofs since October 1, 1903 and still can't figure it out.
Touché, Browndog. But this is the modern [post-modern] era when retractable roofs are doable--even for Boston. I'm sure the traditionalists wouldn't like Fenway Park to be brought out of the stone age, though.
Last week, my genius dog tore up my wallet and credit cards, ate $25.00, half my driver's license and half a roll of toilet paper. The good news is, he wiped his axx as he pooped. The bad news is, he still doesn't know how to drive. Well, maybe that's good news too. If he took the car he'd of run out of gas and I didn't have any way to pay.
Touch one brick of Fenway Park and there is a little bridge near Chappaquiddick waiting for you. Or a resting place at the bottom of the Harbor.
Doge evolved from being a tool, to companion, to a suitable substitute for children.
Having started out as a child with with rejected police dogs bred in Germany for protection, and black labs for duck hunting, switching over to chocolate/yellow labs once my first grandchild was born--
I've been through all 3 phases; luckily, maintain that a dog is all of the above.
Michael K said...
Blogger Achilles said...
The story of Romeo the Wolf in Juneau.
Have you read the two Jack London novels, "Call of the Wild" and "White Fang?"
Call of the wild yes 25 years ago in high school White fang no.
I am not a big fan of stories that anthropomorphize animals.
Call of the wild is not as bad as most natgeo animal documentaries I guess.
Touché, Browndog. But this is the modern [post-modern] era when retractable roofs are doable--even for Boston. I'm sure the traditionalists wouldn't like Fenway Park to be brought out of the stone age, though.
I guess my point is the World Series should have been over two weeks ago-
That's why I was hoping the Brewers would win, and have the series in cold weather cities...so maybe they'd bring back a few double headers, and start the series the 1st week of October, like it's supposed to.
Dogs... please keep 'em to yourselves.
-sw
tim in vermont said...
Dogs can't reason, or understand consequences, or plan long term...
Maybe dogs you've observed from a distance, but I assure you-you're wrong.
What do you guys think of the socks over shoes trend? It’s all the rage at my gym.
Dogs reason and understand consequences but are impulsive, a bit like children.
There was a video around a couple of years ago of a labrador planning his raid on the counter top.
They remember. Ever since Juliet was mauled by an unleashed dog three years ago, she doesn't like other dogs. She remembers places and experiences. All dogs do. Think of them as four year old children and it all makes sense.
I am not a big fan of stories that anthropomorphize animals.
He pretty much tries to figure out how a wolf or dog might think. It was an experiment. He did the first one then wondered if he could reverse it.
It's a bit like "Watership Down," which I read to my kids. It is based on "The Private Life of the Rabbit"which was written about years of observation. When the kids were teenagers, I was able to show them the real Watership Down in south England.
The genius of dogs.
"Just a stupid, stupid dog."
@Mockturtle - the same ignorant characterizations have been made about German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, Mastiffs, Bulldogs, Great Danes, Dalmatians and more.
There is no such thing as an inherently vicious or unstable breed. Undesirable traits can come from irresponsible breeding, and owners that do not know how to properly socialize dogs. There are also breeds that have had sub-branches that have been poorly bred and that attract bad owners who might handle their dogs improperly, neglect them, chain them up, abuse them, train them to fight, etc.
My avatar is my current American Bully, Coozy, and she is the best dog I have ever owned, and over my lifetime I have had over 20 dogs, so that is saying something.
The Crack Emcee said...
"I got a friend with two pit bulls. He keeps them in cages, in the house, and only lets them outside for feeding. When they come close to him, he kicks them."
Well, but, at least he's your friend, right?
Achilles said...
I am not a big fan of stories that anthropomorphize animals.
It's far worse when you anthropomorphize inanimate objects. They hate that.
John: OT, and strictly FWIW, we had a Siamese cat once who used our downstairs toilet for both functions; we had made no effort to train her (had no idea it was even possible), and when years later we remodeled the bathroom and replaced the toilet she stopped using it. She was very efficient and tidy about it, but we could never persuade her to flush. Nobody's perfect.
"Dogs can't reason, or understand consequences, or plan long term...."
My parents came home once and before they put the key into the lock, they peeked into the window on one side of the front door and peeked into the small part of the living room they could see. Our family dog, an Alaskan Malamute named Buck, (after one of Jack London's dogs, I believe), was sleeping on the couch...where (he knew)he was not supposed to be. Once he heard the key turn in the lock, he quickly aroused himself and got down onto the floor in front of the couch, pretending he had been laying there.
No fool he.
My parents laughed and laughed.
Understanding evolution? Blank slate liberals are most evident in denying that there is any genetic component to dog behavior. Pit bulls have become the favorite rescue animal for SJWs, almost a way flaunting their blank slate, everything is social construct world view.
When they react to my concerns about seeing their pit bulls unleashed on the hiking trails by assuring me, its not the breed, its the owner, they go quiet when I suggest putting down the owners in the case of terrible pit bull attacks.
Megaera: Some cats will flush, too. You Tube
AustinRoth asserts: @Mockturtle - the same ignorant characterizations have been made about German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, Mastiffs, Bulldogs, Great Danes, Dalmatians and more.
How many of these other breeds were bred specifically for pit fighting---fighting another dog until one of them is dead?
But maybe your pit bull identifies as a shi-tzu.
There is no such thing as an inherently vicious or unstable breed. Undesirable traits can come from irresponsible breeding, and owners that do not know how to properly socialize dogs.
I completely disagree.
Every dog, as with a human, is unique. That said, certain breeds are bred for certain things--hence the term.
Some are smart, some more docile, some socialize, some don't. Some will kill you, some won't.
Jupiter said...
"Well, but, at least he's your friend, right?"
Yeah, and he's as easy to reason with as some here. I once told him dogs are our friends and he said I'd gone soft.
Ideologues - of any stripe - are a mothafucka.
Dogs: I can’t live with them but I can sure live without them!
I have a mutt with a significant component of pit bull. Dead ringer for half the other dogs from shelters around here. She's kind of like one of those holograms that look different from different angles: From the side, aw, black lab. From the front: Uh-oh, pit bull.
When we recognized this part of her ancestry we were worried, knowing nothing of pit bulls but horrible headlines - pit bull kills toddler, that sort of thing.
So naturally we went online, and found three strains of thought: 1) They're all immediately or latently vicious, and should be put down; 2) pure slander, there are no bad dogs, only bad owners; 3) Help! I just got a mutt and realized it's a pit bull, how worried should I be?
The best warning I've had was, Lab/pit mix? Don't ever set your beer on the coffee table, that wagging tail will knock it right off.
Anyway she's a sweet girl, full of love and happy to have a home these last five years. I don't accept that she and I are responsible for what her distant cousins do. I do think there's such a thing as breed behavior - she's not likely to attack, but she is strong and stubborn and fearless, and if she did she would do a hell of a lot more harm than our little Shih-Tzu mutt can. She loves people but I have to keep her on a very tight leash around other dogs (she adores the semi-Shih-Tzu, all other dogs are Threat).
And, robother, 3:52: I'm largely with you. I understand it's on me not to let others feel threatened by her. I understand why they might. And it is my responsibility to make sure she doesn't hurt anyone, ever.
This video completely undermines the Althousian ethics for not owning a dog. Congratulations, Meade!
JML: "Last week, my genius dog tore up my wallet and credit cards..."
After six weeks of dog-obedience school, my dog and I won 2nd Place. On the way home, he chewed up the ribbon, which now read 2nd Pla og Obe ce chool. Framed it.
here is no such thing as an inherently vicious or unstable breed. Undesirable traits can come from irresponsible breeding,
LOL. See, that's a new version of "no true Scotsman" to me, that's why I come here!
My kindly childhood neighbor growing up still lives in the same house and recently went for a walk and had a couple of his 80 odd year old fingers ripped off, and not by a black Labrador. I wouldn't have a pit bull around my children. You might be special in the eyes of God and so He will protect your loved ones. I prefer to take a more active hand in keeping my family safe. But if you insist on having a pit bull, you better be one of those owners who is constantly vigilant and competent in dog handling. Same goes for German shepherds.
Robert Cook said
Why is it any less abhorrent that we eat cows and pigs? (I do, too.) They are intelligent, sociable animals with personalities. Cows, I've learned, enjoy problem-solving.
I must try to wean myself off cow and pig.
I hear you. I long to do so myself. I have been mostly successful not eating pigs anymore. I had a troubling dream and it moved me to stop.
30 years ago I was lucky enough to have my vet give me a rescue dog. I couldn't figure out what breed it was. A lovely black and white dog with an erect tail and a prancing stride proud as Lucifer. She was a handsome dog and she knew it.
Someone identified her as a Karelian Bear Dog. She fit the breed standard all right, The breed is a Spitz type dog--originally bread in Finland to hunt moose and bear. They are still rare here in the States. They've been used for bear control in the national parks here. They can and will take on a bear or a mountain lion. They also can be aggressive with other dogs--and tend to be a one master/one family breed. They are protective.
Well my particular Karelian Bear Dog was a pussy cat with people--not aggressive towards strangers at all. I discussed this with a woman who ran a kennel in Wyoming where she bred Karelian Bear Dogs. Lots of her animals were headed off to work with the Forest Service or to people who live and travel in forests where bear and cougars are present. When I discussed the dog's temperament she sniffed, "Your dog is overly socialized."
Not my fault lady--I "inherited" the dog when its former owner could not keep it.
I'm sure the traditionalists wouldn't like Fenway Park to be brought out of the stone age, though.
You ever seen "The Departed" or "Black Mass"? (That's called "carriage wit," the stuff you should have said, but you don't think of . until the carriage ride home.)
"Achilles said...
I am not a big fan of stories that anthropomorphize animals."
Dogs are superior to humans in many ways. Dogs don't lie, cheat, steal, and murder in the evil way humans do. Humans are far more vicious than the most aggressive dog.
Bad Lieutenant said...
Trumpit said...
Some Koreans, Chinese, and other Asian groups eat dogs. That's reason enough to bomb, invade, and occupy them. It's a dog eat dog world out there, not a man eat dog world.
I forget if I've ever said this before, but that may be the first sensible thing you've ever posted.
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A billion Hindus out there might think the same thing of *us* for eating cows.
"Chaque à son gout", as the snail-eating Frenchies say.
In Calcutta I once made the mistake of throwing a brick down on a diseased and half-dead rat at my feet, only to have an angry crowd gather to chastise me for killing one of God's creatures.
I beat a hasty retreat, as I felt they no longer regarded *me* as one of God's creatures.)
Dogs don't lie, cheat, steal, and murder in the evil way humans do. - Strumpit
My dog steals, he lies in a way, though he is not very good at it since he hasn't figured out the parts about hiding evidence, sure he cheats, and if you don't think that dogs murder, you should try having a flock of chickens in an area where people have dogs.
[My dog steals, he lies in a way, though he is not very good at it since he hasn't figured out the parts about hiding evidence, sure he cheats, and if you don't think that dogs murder, you should try having a flock of chickens in an area where people have dogs.}
Okay, maybe YOUR dog is the rare evil one. I suspect you've been Trump brainwashed to the point that you can't distinguish your bad dog from evil Trump. Ultimately, your dog can be rehabilitated and a new stable owner located. You, on the other hand, are hopeless and should be put down.
Cows are an amazingly successful species, with 1.5B of them on the planet. Anywhere there are people, there are cows.
They have evolved to taste good.
[I beat a hasty retreat, as I felt they no longer regarded *me* as one of God's creatures.]
I don't think the AIDS virus should be considered one of "God's creatures" either.
The ever-smarmy Neil DeGrasse Tyson did a piece involving a border collie trained to remember the name of a THOUSAND plush toys. He demonstrated that the pooch could "fetch" any number of the toys, if asked for them by name. A remarkable feat of MEMORY.
But what was REALLY amazing was Tyson introducing a toy neither the dog nor his owner were not allowed to see beforehand. The doll was a spitting image of Charles Darwin and so, "Darwin" he was.
"Darwin" was randomly placed with six or so other toys, the latter all being from the thousand the collie knew by name, behind the couch Tyson was sitting on.
When Tyson said, "Go fetch Darwin!", the collie went behind the couch, looked again and again at the plush toys, DEDUCED that the toy he DIDN'T recognize/know by name MUST be Darwin, and brought him back to Tyson.
Back when, behaviorist B.F. Skinner used to argue that non-human animals were basically automatons, programmed to predictably behave in certain scripted fashion---no intellect, no reasoning or LOGIC in there, just stimulus-and-response.
(kinda like NPCs and SJWs on college campi)
Sure, animals could learn new behaviors through "operant conditioning", where lab critters were rewarded with food or punished with electrical currents.
But using logical thinking to solve problems they had never faced was out of the question.
Thousands of YouTube videos of animals, behaving in creative/adaptive/non-intuitive ways Skinner never could have imagined, have falsified his conclusions, a common fate when scientific "giants" are later cast aside as simply wrong, or not in keeping with the political zeitgeist.
Anyone remember Sigmund Freud?
This whole man-human interaction was wonderfully explained by Ortega y Gosset in Meditations on Hunting. His hypothesis is that the human canine margin is they would help us take care of our young and we would help them take care of their young.
It’s the World Series! Poor cheeseheads
And Milwaukee could of been at Fenway tonight. Sad.
"Somebody kicked my dog Mavis and I'm gonna find out just who the hell it
Was
I'm all messed up on cough syrup right now so just like never mind"
Kicking yur own dog sux, too. IMHO.
Anywho, here's where that genius lyric came from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iIe-vFYw9U
Fits this crowd, way beyond the dog kickin'.
Not to mention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3AO8hUwQpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIkZS_06Nw
What's good for Google is good for the country!
How could I leave out the best of all?
"Hello, my name is Billy Bob and I don't give a damn
I got myself some white sheets straight from the Ku Klux Klan
I got myself a daughter and she's a Mongoloid
Because I married my sister and our gene pool's been destroyed
Let's do it!
We got ourself a sheriff and his name's Bobby Joe
One day he said to me "Them punk rockers gotta go"
So we hopped into his pickup truck with a gun rack on the back
And we beat up on them punks and we beat up on them blacks
Because
So if you should happen to come to our little town
It might be wise if you didn't hang around
'Cause we hate blacks and we hate Jews
And we hate punks but we love the F.U.s
Let's do it!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A7oi_8p-O8
Somebody is feeling the hate tonight pointing at fictional characters.
Blogger Old Geezer said...
30 years ago I was lucky enough to have my vet give me a rescue dog.
I have had two rescue dogs, both from a basset hound shelter north of Los Angeles.
Both were the nicest dogs I think I've had. I think they figured out that what I offered was an improvement and acted accordingly.
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/3ked5w/i-saved-my-schools-notorious-racist-from-white-nationalism
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trump+won%27t+denounce+david+duke&view=detail&mid=F7A939869F7A27420885F7A939869F7A27420885&FORM=VIRE
Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself?
Is it me or does that guy have really big hands. I wanted to pay attention but I kept getting distracted by his huge hands. Mrs Bare might be one lucky woman.
When you start the argument with "dogs are superior to humans" because they don't do this and that--Trumpit..
Tells me you have never had love in your life. Sad.
I've observed that dogs are capable of extrapolation and interpolation.
Dogs are sometimes smart.... for dogs.
Maybe this squirrel avatar is making me down on dogs...
A neighbor has what I was told is a Japanese mountain dog. Well, that's what the other neighbor told me. I looked up Japanese mountain dog and I cannot find anything. But I did find this photo and it looks like her. I love her.
A neighbor has what I was told is a Japanese mountain dog. Well, that's what the other neighbor told me. I looked up Japanese mountain dog and I cannot find anything. But I did find this photo and it looks like her. I love her.
Looks similar to an Akita with different coloring.
From Reinhard Mey:
ES GIBT TAGE, DA WÜNSCHT ICH, ICH WÄR MEIN HUND SONGTEXT
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Ich läg' faul auf meinem Kissen und säh' mir mitleidig zu
Wie mich wilde Hektik packt zur Morgenstund'
Und verdrossen von dem Schauspiel, legt' ich mich zurück zur Ruh'
Denn ich hätte zwei Int'ressen
Erstens Schlafen, zweitens Fressen
Und was sonst schöngeistige Dinge angeht
Wäre ausschließlich Verdauung
Der Kern meiner Weltanschauung
Und der Knochen, um den diese Welt sich dreht
Wär' allein meiner Meditationen Grund
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Und ich hätte seine keilförmige Nase, dann erschien'
Mir die Umwelt vor ganz neuem Hintergrund
Und ich ordnete sie ein in ganz andre Kategorien:
Die, die aufrecht geh'n, die kriechen
Die, die wohl, die übel riechen
Und den Typen, die mir stinken, könnt' ich dann
Hose oder Rock zerreißen
Und sie in den Hintern beißen
Was ich heut' nur in extremen Fällen kann
Denn ich kenn' meinen zahnärztlichen Befund
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Und dann kümmerte mich kein Besuch, kein Klatsch, keine Affär'n
Redete mir nicht mehr Fusseln an den Mund
Um irgendwelchen Strohköpfen irgendetwas zu erklär'n
Denn anstatt zu diskutieren
Legte ich mich stumm auf ihren Schoß
Und sie kraulten mir zwangsläufig den Bauch
Und sollt's an der Haustür schellen
Würd' ich hingeh'n, würde bellen
Froh, dass ich niemanden reinzulassen brauch'
Und ich sagte: „Tut mir leid, aber zur Stund“
Ist der Boss nicht da, und ich bin nur der Hund.“
Es gibt Tage, da wünscht' ich, ich wär mein Hund
Denn mir scheint, dass ich als er beträchtliche Vorteile hätt'
Denn ich lebte, wie ich leb', weiter im Grund
Äße zwar unter dem Tisch, doch schlief' ich noch in meinem Bett
Sparte aber ungeheuer
Zahlte nur noch Hundesteuer
Nur in einem bin ich als Mensch besser dran
Darum mag er mich beneiden
Denn ich bin der von uns beiden
Der die Kühlschranktür allein aufmachen kann
Und das sind Momente, die genieße ich
Denn ich weiß, dann wünscht mein Hund, er wäre ich
https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/kai-ken/
?
This:
https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/shikoku/
If I had to place a bet.
"The important question of the day, however: Will there be a game tonight or will it be rained out?"
We're talking about dogs, not your "important question of day." Get you mind out of the rain gutter, lover boy.
MockTurtle - Perhaps sh is an Akita. She looks like a bear.
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